I have an unlocked 5X with TWRP installed (but have not yet modified system.)
I'm about to flash SuperSu but have 2 questions.
1) Will I lose functions such as the fingerprint reader if the device is rooted?
2) Is there a risk of getting in a bootloop if a firmware update is downloaded?
harryspar said:
I have an unlocked 5X with TWRP installed (but have not yet modified system.)
I'm about to flash SuperSu but have 2 questions.
1) Will I lose functions such as the fingerprint reader if the device is rooted?
2) Is there a risk of getting in a bootloop if a firmware update is downloaded?
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1) Will I lose functions such as the fingerprint reader if the device is rooted?
if you install the stock rom you will keep this functionality otherwise you need to wait concerning CM13 build
2) Is there a risk of getting in a bootloop if a firmware update is downloaded?
there is always a risk but minor
harryspar said:
2) Is there a risk of getting in a bootloop if a firmware update is downloaded?
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You will not be able to flash ota with a custom recovery. When a new update arrives you will have to wait for a twrp compatible zip or return to complete stock to flash the update
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You will not be able to flash ota with a custom recovery. When a new update arrives you will have to wait for a twrp compatible zip or return to complete stock to flash the update
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Right, I remember this happening with other devices, as the OTA uses a recovery script.
I wonder if there will be nag screens for OTA's. This rendered my wife's S4 so annoying to use, with a persistent notification, until I found a block method (disallowing notifications didn't work since I'd have had to disable notifications for the entire Android System UI...)
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I wonder if there will be nag screens for OTA's.
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I went about 5 days before I installed the b140 update and I don't recall any annoying notifications. I know exactly what you mean though my s5 active did the same thing because I didn't want to update and lose root. I finally found a way to disable it but like you said it was very irritating.
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So.. The Android 5.1.1 version is here and I've unrooted my phone for the update, but it still shows "Could not verify." Are there any files that cause the verifying process to know that I had rooted my device? If yes, can I delete it or what? Or are there any other ways to update without flashing a ftf file? (1. Because that ftf file is very big and my Internet speed couldn't afford it. 2. Because I don't want to wipe my apps and data) Any help would be appreciated!
@OP, If I understand right, it's the custom recovery you might have that prevents the OTA update from completing successfully. Which, in a way, is a good thing.
Step 1: reroot your phone while you still can.
Step 2: download any of a number of flashable, pre-rooted 5.1.1 ROMs with recovery (*.zip) floating around now and flash it with your current recovery, wiping only cache and Dalvik upon exit. This is what I've done to keep all my date and settings and still be rooted and have recovery on 5.1.1.
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@OP, If I understand right, it's the custom recovery you might have that prevents the OTA update from completing successfully. Which, in a way, is a good thing.
Step 1: reroot your phone while you still can.
Step 2: download any of a number of flashable, pre-rooted 5.1.1 ROMs with recovery (*.zip) floating around now and flash it with your current recovery, wiping only cache and Dalvik upon exit. This is what I've done to keep all my date and settings and still be rooted and have recovery on 5.1.1.
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After I flash this, can my phone update OTA or the same problem will happen?
As far as we know, custom recoveries will always prevent OTA updates to our Xperia devices. Why are OTA updates seemingly so important to you? With your custom recovery installed, you can always simply flash the new update when it becomes available; often before the OTA update is released.
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As far as we know, custom recoveries will always prevent OTA updates to our Xperia devices. Why are OTA updates seemingly so important to you? With your custom recovery installed, you can always simply flash the new update when it becomes available; often before the OTA update is released.
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Hmm okay thankyou
wicozani said:
As far as we know, custom recoveries will always prevent OTA updates to our Xperia devices. Why are OTA updates seemingly so important to you? With your custom recovery installed, you can always simply flash the new update when it becomes available; often before the OTA update is released.
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Can you give me a link for the official ROM? Thanks!
Can I use the AOSPA ROM? Does it need to unlock my bootloader to flash it?
Some consideration about this thread.
1) Not never the OTA updade overwrite the ROOT, example I passed from .627 to .28 through OTA update without lose the root and recovery. This depend of kind of update.
2) I think that to install a pre-rooted rom is not a good thing, because the baseband is almost always different an this can create issue related the WI-fi and carrier signal (3G, 4G).
3) I always installed the root, recovery and mod as well. But now I have understand that is not really necessary to install this. At least the stock Z2 have a good/beautiful OS and good hardware and there is no need to change some colors or icons to improve it.
I'm boring to flash and restore my data every new firmware or new mod. (now a new firmware is already certified and will be ready soon).
Maybe I will think to change the room when my phone will be obsolete
Regards
giancaleone said:
Some consideration about this thread.
1) Not never the OTA updade overwrite the ROOT, example I passed from .627 to .28 through OTA update without lose the root and recovery. This depend of kind of update.
2) I think that to install a pre-rooted rom is not a good thing, because the baseband is almost always different an this can create issue related the WI-fi and carrier signal (3G, 4G).
3) I always installed the root, recovery and mod as well. But now I have understand that is not really necessary to install this. At least the stock Z2 have a good/beautiful OS and good hardware and there is no need to change some colors or icons to improve it.
I'm boring to flash and restore my data every new firmware or new mod. (now a new firmware is already certified and will be ready soon).
Maybe I will think to change the room when my phone will be obsolete
Regards
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Totally understand, thankyou, so I just flash the original ROM from AOSPA and without root is enough right?
Wayhome said:
Totally understand, thankyou, so I just flash the original ROM from AOSPA and without root is enough right?
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If you do not have an unlocked bootloader, you cannot flash anything but a pre-rooted stock 5.1.1 ROM with recovery. There are several types available in the General Z2 column.
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I have a crazy thought flashed across my mind haha, that file that I downloaded via OTA SYSTEM UPDATE is still there, can I make it as a zip file and flash it?
Wayhome said:
I have a crazy thought flashed across my mind haha, that file that I downloaded via OTA SYSTEM UPDATE is still there, can I make it as a zip file and flash it?
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Why would you do that? You wouldn't have root and you wouldn't have a recovery; you'd be stuck, unable to root and install a recovery. Do what I said and you'll be fine.
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Can you help me to find one? That doesn't need to unlock bootloader to flash.
As the title says, I really don't want to lose my (Rooted) heavily modded ROM, has anyone tried to update OTA and kept Root?
It either wont verify update or if it somehow does you will lose root with your mods and changes
Envious_Data said:
It either wont verify update or if it somehow does you will lose root with your mods and changes
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You`ll never get past that "verify" error while your phone is rooted and/or custom recovery installed. If you want to update and keep ROOT you need to flash a prerooted zip found here on the forums.
what about the mods and stuff?
karim-ps said:
what about the mods and stuff?
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you will have to start all over again on a clean system
That sucks, I might just skip this update until Android M, as it's not worthy and also, I have heard of many battery drain reports, one of which just a few minutes ago from a friend of mine
I was at work so I never got a chance to capture the D/L. It was small, around 4MB. Anyone else see it?
Probably the Nov security update posted here
McChen147 said:
november security update:
https://android.googleapis.com/pack...5f522d.signed-volantis-MRA58N-from-MRA58K.zip
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Can install with root?
TWRP Failed to install
edgardo_0691 said:
Can install with root?
TWRP Failed to install
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When I flashed Marshmallow, I went back to unrooted. So the OTA worked fine, but not sure if you can stall with Root.
No.
edgardo_0691 said:
Can install with root?
TWRP Failed to install
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OTA Update
I am also unable to install the update however I am on Marshmallow 6 and every time I boot up my device it tells me that the device is untrusted.
is this part of a larger issue?
ImzTinoz said:
I am also unable to install the update however I am on Marshmallow 6 and every time I boot up my device it tells me that the device is untrusted.
is this part of a larger issue?
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This is normal. The warning is displayed because you have modified your device. It means nothing for the functionality of your tablet.
You cannot use the OTA update if your system is modified. You must be stock unrooted, unless you used the systemless root method in which case you need to restore stock recovery and kernel, then OTA will work.
This zip is not meant to be flashed in TWRP, it's the official OTA update which needs the stock recovery and completely unmodified /system partition.
HI, do the OTA updates still work after unlocking bootloader, installing TWRP and rooting?
I've ordered one and was thinking about doing the about doing the above right out of the box.
Yes, will work
pratikp16 said:
HI, do the OTA updates still work after unlocking bootloader, installing TWRP and rooting?
I've ordered one and was thinking about doing the about doing the above right out of the box.
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OTA AFTER
Unlocking bootloader - Yes
Installing TWRP - probably yes, but it might replace TWRP with default recovery during update
Rooting - idk
Hey guys
I would like to bring this topic up again because I want to be super sure.
I unlocked BL, installed twrp and rooted with supersu, stable Rom.
Now I got ota update notice. Is it save to update or will it brick?
No, you probably will end with an unbootable device or defective operating system (but it could work too, it's unpredictable without trying).
You will end flashing a fastboot image via MiFlash, so better not OTA updating and flashing directly a full ROM image when you're ready to update.
If you want to try the OTA update, backup your data before because it could become inaccessible after.
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No, you probably will end with an unbootable device or defective operating system (but it could work too, it's unpredictable without trying).
You will end flashing a fastboot image via MiFlash, so better not OTA updating and flashing directly a full ROM image when you're ready to update.
If you want to try the OTA update, backup your data before because it could become inaccessible after.
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OK, will loose settings and App data when flashing the (updated) full stock image?
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OK, will loose settings and App data when flashing the (updated) full stock image?
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If I remember well, there should be an option to retain settings and apps data (it depends on what .bat file you choose to flash), but I advise against preserving this data, as it will probably cause many problems afterward.
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If I remember well, there should be an option to retain settings and apps data (it depends on what .bat file you choose to flash), but I advise against preserving this data, as it will probably cause many problems afterward.
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Yes that's what I thought so too.
So to sum it up correctly with unlocked BL and root one should only update via flashing whole image and do a clean flash loosing all data and settings.
I recently installed a custom recovery on my exynos s9+ on stock pie. I actually thought unlocking oem and installing a custom recovery + root would trip Knox and prevent me from getting any updates but it didn't. Was roaming on my phone today and somehow found myself in the phone update menu. I tapped on check for updates and low and behold I could download an update. My problem is now that I'm on a custom recovery how would any update i download even manage to install? And even if it does is there a possibility that it might cause troubles like re-enabling dm-verity lock and bricking my phone? I wanna know what might happen if I proceed to download and install that OTA update.
drickles said:
I recently installed a custom recovery on my exynos s9+ on stock pie. I actually thought unlocking oem and installing a custom recovery + root would trip Knox and prevent me from getting any updates but it didn't. Was roaming on my phone today and somehow found myself in the phone update menu. I tapped on check for updates and low and behold I could download an update. My problem is now that I'm on a custom recovery how would any update i download even manage to install? And even if it does is there a possibility that it might cause troubles like re-enabling dm-verity lock and bricking my phone? I wanna know what might happen if I proceed to download and install that OTA update.
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Personally I would not do the OTA as it may not update properly (if even at all). Every phone I have rooted before this was one of the cautions usually posted... I would double check in what ever tutorial, thread, utility faq you used to make sure.
I would suggest you wait for an update to be made that is flashable with your custom recovery. If your custom recovery has the feature (like TWRP) make a backup of what you have installed, flash the update and if things don't work you can restore your backup.
I miss having that kind of backup/restore ability via custom recovery on my phone.. sure comes in handy when things go sideways
Nothing happens. According to my experience and contents in the OTA zip, twrp will simply just spit it out. No dm-verity re-lock or bricking too.
You can always download one of the custom systems which are regularly updated.
Example would be Soldier ROM.
I recommend find your new firmware and flash it. You will lose all of your file and root-recovery you can have them all back