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Have you guys tried Windows 95 on HD2? It is a Bochs emulation, I can get it full screen (only VGA though) but can't get the mouse work. Although it is freeware, I saw it on a warez site and I don't know if it is legal or so, hence I'm not posting any links. Just google it if you're interested.
why would you do such a thing?
yngvebn said:
why would you do such a thing?
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Why not ?
(curosity killed the cat)
me too
yeah im trying this too, i have to move the bochs windows around the screen, if you go on config, then misc and tick mouse then go on vga keyboard and press f12 and make sure the mouse is ticked it should eventually work, mine did.
anyone who gets it to work please fill us in on the blanks lol love the HD2 and it would be cool to get this bochs working, once we have this working we can simply use the configured settings and make our own win98 image
qemu
You should try Qemu instead, there is a russian port of it for WMobile, i have tested it on the HD2 with windows 95 and works surprisingly good,muuch faster than bochs, only issue is the small keyboard (BSB with pinchzoom helps lots though) and mouse implementation is no good...
I think if this port evolves and matures focused in the multitouch ( a bit like FPSECE is heading with v1.0) it could be one of the nicest surprises on our HD2!
Also played some games, Starcraft being one of them and its quite playable,even the intro and cd sound works (though lags a bit) Its by no means as fast as the pocketstarcraft port, but this is the real thing, all units and bloodwar expansion on it so its quite a nice
Windows itself works pretty fast once the vga drivers and all components are properly installed,there is one issue with the mouse icon,and few other glitches, but still nice and usable.
Im having lots of fun just installing stuff.
If there was any developer over this great forum working on the interface mainly, it would be amazing!
with some free time i will try to post a quick video in youtube if anyone is interested
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You should try Qemu instead, there is a russian port of it for WMobile, i have tested it on the HD2 with windows 95 and works surprisingly good,muuch faster than bochs, only issue is the small keyboard (BSB with pinchzoom helps lots though) and mouse implementation is no good...
I think if this port evolves and matures focused in the multitouch ( a bit like FPSECE is heading with v1.0) it could be one of the nicest surprises on our HD2!
Also played some games, Starcraft being one of them and its quite playable,even the intro and cd sound works (though lags a bit) Its by no means as fast as the pocketstarcraft port, but this is the real thing, all units and bloodwar expansion on it so its quite a nice
Windows itself works pretty fast once the vga drivers and all components are properly installed,there is one issue with the mouse icon,and few other glitches, but still nice and usable.
Im having lots of fun just installing stuff.
If there was any developer over this great forum working on the interface mainly, it would be amazing!
with some free time i will try to post a quick video in youtube if anyone is interested
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I would be interested if you could post a little guide for Windows 95 on QEMU or a video. Thanks.
Many thanks for this tip miko3d!
LOL!! HoMM2 are fully playable on my HD2 using this russian pack. This is superb-completely-amazing!
I see great potential there, sadly looks like this project is not going to be developed further..
All the details are there (just use google translate):
http://forum.pdaprime.ru/index.php?showtopic=45356
Hey that Qemu solution seems a lot better than the Bochs one indeed... got both my Win95 and Win98 images to run, and the mouse is even useable!
I didn't get the keyboard though, there are the couple of keys at the bottom, but is there a way to get a full onscreen keyboard within qemu, or do we have to play with the hardware button to show/hide SIP trick?
guys, this seems interesting.
instead of doing emulation, can we do something like the haret?
boot the phone from storage card and run win xp tablet on it?
what's going on? does it work? will u provide any screenshot?
ruffruff said:
instead of doing emulation, can we do something like the haret?
boot the phone from storage card and run win xp tablet on it?
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No, because PC versions of Windows are made to run on PC x86 processors, not on the ARM ones used in mobile devices. So, emulation is necessary.
Some screenshots...
nice, but what actual use is this, better to get ubuntu up and running and we can really have a play then.
None apart from fun... but ubuntu or linux in general wouldn't be any better if it's an x86 build. Emulation just makes everything way too slow for comfortable use.
Windows 95 runs also nice and perfect...
only thing is- i got no mouse xD
touchscreen is not working =/
edit: ah okay im still useing bochs, thats why ...
can anyone upload this files in the forum or on a hoster like rapidshare/uploadet ?
because i dont want in reg. me on this russian forum
yeah i second that but a compiled version!!!!
I created simple compilation with the latest QEMU WM port I could find.
All the credit for this goes to mamaich (excellent work!), I am merely sharing these files.
Links:
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Instructions:
1. Extract QEMU_WM.7z to the root folder on your SD card.
2. Extract additional packages (Win95 or Homm2) to 'emul' directory in QEMU folder.
3. Use qemu_launcher from QEMU folder to start selected VM.
Note: QEMU must be placed in '\Storage Card\QEMU\' directory, otherwise you have to edit 'cmdline.txt' etc files accordingly.
Generally, everything works well and pretty fast (as for emulation). Homm2 is completely playable (with sound!). On Win95 mouse cursor is a bit dodgy - it looks like button clicks are not detected correctly.
Please note that this software (Homm2, Win95) although very old, is still copyrighted, so don't download it if you haven't got license for it. If these links violate forum rules, please remove them.
Hi just a few quick questions:
Does the internet work on windows 95, e.g. can i go on internet explorer and actually go on websites?
Is it possible to run windows 98 on HTC HD2?
I've seen youtube videos with a HTC HD2 running windows xp, vista or 7 on them through remote desktop, is this possible or just a fake?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFiDZ_wBAtM
Can you please post some screens of your HTC HD2 running windows 95 with internet explorer on the screen, thanks alot!
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I've seen youtube videos with a HTC HD2 running windows xp, vista or 7 on them through remote desktop, is this possible or just a fake?
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Well as you said it's through remote desktop. So it's not fake, but the HD2 is not "running" them either, just displaying on its screen what another computer is running, and interacting with it.
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On Win95 mouse cursor is a bit dodgy - it looks like button clicks are not detected correctly.
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They are, but it needs playing with one of the bottom buttons. See attached picture, the button pointed by the arrow is the key. When it's grey (default), a tap on the screen will do a left click. So a tap&drag will do a left click and drag, i.e selection, moving stuff, etc, which is why it looks weird to you. Tap the button, it turns to black, and now a tap&drag on the screen moves the cursor without clicking, like a laptop touchpad. The button on the left marked "rb" does the same as grey but with right mouse button.
So you need to turn the thing black, move the cursor where you want, tap it to grey, tap or double tap to single/double click, tap it to black, move to some other place, etc, toggling the button each time between movements and clicks. Not very convenient, but works.
I'd gladly try the net etc, but I just tested on my Win98 image, and it has IE and all network drivers stripped out, so no way. Plus, I still haven't found how to get an onscreen keyboard. And W98 is very slow.
Will have a look under W95 tomorrow, it seems that one was complete.
I'm looking to be able to use my Galaxy Tab as a second PC display. I've been searching for hours for a way to set this up and I've found a few solutions, but so far they've all been lacking. I'm hoping others might have some experience or thoughts on the subject. Here's what I tried or looked into so far:
iDisplay - Available on the Market. So far about the only solution that works, but it's god awful slow. If you try to use a browser with a couple tabs open, it practically stands still. It also disables Aero on Windows 7.
Screenslider - Available on the Market. Disables Aero. Doesn't like web browsing, FF and IE won't redraw when clicking anything (links, Java objects, tabs, etc).
Air Display - Available on the Market. Disables Aero and DirectX. This one was extremely responsive, but you just can't do anything on it. Not compatible with FF9 or later and can't handle dynamic web content.
Remote View - Available on the Market. Disables Aero and Background. Honestly, I don't even remember why this one didn't work. Pretty sure browsers just froze. Have to jump through hoops on their website to even get the server.
Splashtop XDisplay - iOS only. Looks like it would be perfect, but it's not on Android yet. They said they were working on it 6 months go, so I'm not holding my breath.
Virtual display + a VNC connection - This is the most promising, so far. The idea is to use software to create a virtual display that's normally hidden, then use a VNC server (that can deal with individual displays) to send that extra display to a VNC viewer on the Android device. It seems like this would be the most responsive, plus you shouldn't lose Aero or specific applications since you're essentially just sending out a video stream (I think). Some apps even combine the virtual display and VNC server into one. In reality, actually setting this up has been a royal PITA (due in no small part to my complete lack of experience with this sort of thing).
Other Android RDP or VNC apps that have this sort of functionality built in - ?
So, has anyone actually accomplished this, or have any interest in figuring it out?
I'm looking for a similar application for my Galaxy Note's display. I want to use it as a live display tablet for Photoshop. I tried iDisplay and Remote View. Both were too slow to update phone display. iDisplay also BSODs my Samsung laptop (primary work machine), so it's not a viable solution. I could always use my phone as a regular tablet (one that just moves a cursor on screen), but hey, it'd be cool to have!
Virtual display+VNC? Sounds too contrived, but I'll try to read up and figure out how to get it running. If that's as responsive as a regular display, I'll post the method here.
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I'm looking for a similar application for my Galaxy Note's display. I want to use it as a live display tablet for Photoshop. I tried iDisplay and Remote View. Both were too slow to update phone display. iDisplay also BSODs my Samsung laptop (primary work machine), so it's not a viable solution. I could always use my phone as a regular tablet (one that just moves a cursor on screen), but hey, it'd be cool to have!
Virtual display+VNC? Sounds too contrived, but I'll try to read up and figure out how to get it running. If that's as responsive as a regular display, I'll post the method here.
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i guess it didnt work..
Personally, I never went back and gave it another shot. Still think the VNC thing will work well with some effort.
Hello XDA Developers!
tl;dr I need either a solid, light OS replacement for Android 2.3 on my Atrix, or I need a video streaming and virtualization app with no lag that works between android devices and either windows or linux desktop.
First I'd like to say how impressed I am with you folks. Massive amounts of work most be done on a regular basis, and so I tip my hat to you in thanks for looking at my potential problem/question.
I've got two devices that I'd like to make some serious software changes to, one of them my Atrix (the other is a Flytouch Tablet ARM11 with Android 2.3, but that's for a different forum). Let me start by saying that I like to think of myself as very technically literate, but when it comes to linux I just don't have nearly as much experience as I do with windows/mac, and it is about to really show.
What I want to do is load a light Linux OS on these devices. Normally, if I was going to install a new windows kernel on a machine I would copy an ISO to a USB thumb drive and make the drive bootable (using the MS program Windows 7 USB/DVD maker), then startup the PC and either through the BIOS or by hitting the proper button during the startup sequence I would ask the PC to boot into the drive and begin the installation.
Questions:
What is the image file type for mobile OS's?
How would one choose the right type of linux OS for an Atrix?
What is the difference between flashing a ROM and installing and OS?
Why is it when I updated my phone recently that it became unrooted?
(and) Is there any way to revert this process to make rooting easier?
Is there any way to capture a video output (like a stream) and broadcast it to these mobile devices so I can avoid changing their software alltogether?
(and) Could I just remotely control another PC from the mobile device, letting it do all the actual computing?
Can I use the Webtop Dock as a monitor for my desktop if I can find the proper HDMI cable to connect it to the HDMI output on my desktop video card?
(and) Can I also connect the Micro USB and use the keyboard/mouse (hooked into my desktop motherboard) on it as well?
(and finally) Can I use my Atrix as a prototype omni-tool by docking it in a docking station, attaching various tools that work with a linux operating system (wide-spectrum ultrasound imaging, temperature monitors, vital monitors, electronic laser saw (USB) (with separate power attachment of course) and extendable, movable USB cameras?) and then strapping it onto my wrist with a cool leather bracer design?
My end-goal is to have all three of these devices on the same network, with the ability to seamlessly access my data between them. For example, if I'm working on a document, I'd like to be able to access the document in a document editing program across all the platforms (imagine google docs with multiple users) however with one MAJOR stipulation: I'll be on a local network with NO INTERNET ACCESS!
Briefly (to better help you understand just what I'm trying to do) I am a freelance archaeologist/deep sea explorer/ROV tinkerer about to do a series of surveys mostly by myself in some VERY remote locations. I'll have a Wi-Fi network to link all of my devices together running out of my boat, but it's only for data sharing between each other, and since Satellite Internet is a joke, I can't think of any way to get data out there, and I've decided to live without it while I'm away.
I have a webtop dock for my Atrix, and the environment developed by Motorola is far too restrictive. I've tried countless fixes to try and get the webtop2SD to work, but I must be doing something wrong (Maybe the latest update screwed it?). I think since I'd like to use some linux applications while on the mobile devices, I would rather install a custom OS for both.
OR (preffered)
Even more simply, I'd like to stream the video feed and remotely control my desktop PC (located on the boat) on the mobile devices, but with yet another stipulation: I can't have FPS lag (I usually get 1-2 FPS with all the virtualization and remote control apps I've tried). This would in some senses be the preferred option, since I really don't want to spend oodles of hours trying to get some program to work in a difficult, restricted environment like these mobile device's current OS's. Is there a good, non-lagging version of desktop virtualization for Android OS?
About that webdock: I can't seem to find a female-to-female micro HDMI cable anywhere on the internet, thought I did find one Micro HDMI extension cable, and bought it promptly. I could buy another, but cut the male ends off and splice the female parts together (**** just got kinky). But if I could, would this work?
Phew that was a lot! Again thanks so much for thinking for me!
I've personally never found any kind of remote desktop software that works without lag, but it might be possible to find some. Someone else might know what to tell you there.
After doing some basic searching, the only collaborative document solution that I've found has been Etherpad Lite. You could set up a desktop or laptop running linux as the server, and all the other devices on your small network could (theoretically) run a browser based client similar (but far less advanced) than Google Docs. This way, everything on your LAN/WLAN could access the application, if it's stout enough to support your needs.
https://github.com/Pita/etherpad-lite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collab...Real-time_collaborative_text_editing_software
Everything you're looking for just seems to be limited for Android, I wish you the best of luck.
I have always found Teamviewer great for remote PC control from my Atrix. They have a nice app and free license for home/personal use. I get minimal lag controlling my PC at home when at work, but that's over WiFi. Not very fast and pretty laggy if I am on data with my Atrix.
BTW............I can work on documents, transfer files to and from PC's and laptops, print documents on my wireless printer, etc. across my home network from my Atrix, all routed through a Netgear WNR3500L running stock firmware (dd-wrt actually slowed my network down and reduced WiFi range considerably, so I reverted to stock).
First, there is no "magic" within the lapdock device. It is a nice HDMI screen, a couple crappy input devices on the USB side, and a battery. The standard Moto software does recognise the usb device and do some software magic, but certainly you could use the dock on it's own w/o the phone.
As to completely replacing the /osh webtop OS that Motorola provides, that is challanging.
There are 2 basic ways to open it up though. Go to the developers subforum and look for webtop2sd and "full Debian".
Somebody did post recently with an attempt to fully replace the webtop OS. he was using gentoo, so look for that and you should find it. But I suspect it is early, and likely to be a significant WP.
As to learning all this ****. If you do some Linux developement or heavy hacking (which it kind of sounds like) you should set up a full full blown 'droid dev platform and start playing. It is big and bulky, but you will learn faster that way than just searbhing around.
EDIT: just reread your post that you are light on Linux. if you want to do anything more than just follow along, it might be a good idea to setup something like an Ubuntu and get familiar there. 'Droid is way different looking (it really basterdises things around) but yoiu need to know both if you want to play with webtop hacks.
Thanks all. I'll look around again to see if I can find the threads you mentioned. I've tried Webtop2SD but to no success so far.
Thanks again.
I'm looking for a remote desktop client for my transformer prime. i tried many from the market and they all have some annoying issues that make it really unusable on day-to-day.
for example, pocket cloud, when u try to click on a scroll bar and drag the pointer in order to simply scroll the window the entire screen is dragged and there is no way to lock it.
do you guys use any client with the dock? which do u prefer? does it fullfill all ur needs?
Splashtop comes with it, works great otherwise I use TeamViewer
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I'm looking for a remote desktop client for my transformer prime. i tried many from the market and they all have some annoying issues that make it really unusable on day-to-day.
for example, pocket cloud, when u try to click on a scroll bar and drag the pointer in order to simply scroll the window the entire screen is dragged and there is no way to lock it.
do you guys use any client with the dock? which do u prefer? does it fullfill all ur needs?
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You don't mention what you are trying to connect to - VNC, RDP? Windows? Mac? Linux?
Personally I have found Jump Desktop to be really good. Supports both RDP and VNC, and has full mouse support including scroll wheel ,right click etc.
After Jump, I found Remote VNC Pro and Remote RDP Pro to be good.
I have never used Splashtop as it requires a desktop component that only runs on Windows so is no use to me.
Hope this helps.
BTW, there is an existing long thread on this very subject which it would have been better for all if you had looked for rather than opening another one.
2x remote works great and it is free rdp, the built in splashtop hd is even quicker but it does not blank out the computer you are controlling. i reccomend itap mobile rdp client to my customers who need ts gateway support but it costs 15 bucks. all these apps support right click, but 2x is by far my favorite.
dotnerdify said:
I'm looking for a remote desktop client for my transformer prime. i tried many from the market and they all have some annoying issues that make it really unusable on day-to-day.
for example, pocket cloud, when u try to click on a scroll bar and drag the pointer in order to simply scroll the window the entire screen is dragged and there is no way to lock it.
do you guys use any client with the dock? which do u prefer? does it fullfill all ur needs?
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Why would you use an actual scrollbar with pocket cloud? Why not use its native scroll feature in the pointer control thingie?
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Splashtop comes with it, works great otherwise I use TeamViewer
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Awesome!!! I definitely didnt know splashtop came with it (never really tried Asus apps).
It is million times better than any free app for remote desktop i've used so far.
You made my Transformer Prime make sense again
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You don't mention what you are trying to connect to - VNC, RDP? Windows? Mac? Linux?
Personally I have found Jump Desktop to be really good. Supports both RDP and VNC, and has full mouse support including scroll wheel ,right click etc.
After Jump, I found Remote VNC Pro and Remote RDP Pro to be good.
I have never used Splashtop as it requires a desktop component that only runs on Windows so is no use to me.
Hope this helps.
BTW, there is an existing long thread on this very subject which it would have been better for all if you had looked for rather than opening another one.
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I will try the ones you've posted, thanks a lot.
Regarding to the thread, I've been looking for a discussion for a very long time with no success.
This thread i opened helped me within hours
justPorter said:
2x remote works great and it is free rdp, the built in splashtop hd is even quicker but it does not blank out the computer you are controlling. i reccomend itap mobile rdp client to my customers who need ts gateway support but it costs 15 bucks. all these apps support right click, but 2x is by far my favorite.
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You are definitely right! The most seamless client is 2x remote. Right click works out of the box, don't have to emulate it by holding left click.
Splashtop is definitely good, I hope I can make sound redirect work. But the fact that the mouse cursor don't follow android's, make it difficult to hover for hints, etc, but it works on 2x. I hope I can explore the gaming side of it, at some point.
The 15 bucks one, well, now i don't see any need to spend this much.
Thanks a lot!!!!
What about VNC? Can anyone point me to a good vnc client? One that possibly support right click and doesn't drag the whole screen when I'm instinctively trying to drag and drop something?
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Or any client that has a linux server, and is decent.
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What about VNC? Can anyone point me to a good vnc client? One that possibly support right click and doesn't drag the whole screen when I'm instinctively trying to drag and drop something?
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Or any client that has a linux server, and is decent.
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Remote VNC Pro I have found to be really good
Hello! I must say im impressed so far, i see the potensial in this os. However theres some inconveniences im bothered about.
1. There is no keyboard light
2. fn functions like screen brightness dont work
3. Mediakeys (start, pause , next previous) on my logitech mouse dont work (obviously because lack of logitech drivers)
4. Some internet pages shows as on mobile phone (very big fonts and pictures), even if iv i set to desktop mode. (in both opera and chrome browser)
5. A integrated file-explorer with SMB nas support would be nice.
Is there some way to get these functions up and running? Asus UX32L
Thanks, have a nice day. :good:
I have exactly same feelings about Remix OS. It is a really promising operating system, however still being incomplete.
The most frustrating issues is the lack of keyboard backlight. I chose my laptop with a backlit keyboard for a big reason, that is using it conveniently also in dark, and now when I'm used to this feature I can't imagine living without it.
Does anybody know any hack to make the keyboard backlight work? Remix OS (Android) is Linux based and what I remember in all the latest Linux desktop releases the keyboard backlight works from the box, so there must be support for it in the kernel.
I can also confirm the lack of function key support, I can't change the brightness, or volume, etc.
And yes, it would be really essential to have SMB share support in file explorer. Phoenix OS also has a perfectly working SMB client in their built-in file mananger.
Also, I have found that not all Android apps work in Remix OS, but in Phoenix OS they do. These not working apps install just fine from Play Store, but when opening them I see a window rapidly opening and closing immediately without enough time to see what is there. No any error messages remain.
ASUS Zenbook UX302LA