hey guys i am officially done with samsung after a complete circus ride of an s6. would like to buy a g5 but there are so many flippin variants i don't know what to buy. i'm currently on at&t, and i know they are all against unlocking the boot loader, so which do i get? i saw that the european g5 is the only one to get twrp? i found an H860n on ebay for $561. is this the same variant? thanks in advance.
European variant is H850.
I might get a European version myself. It costs the same if I were to buy it outright in Canada. The only thing I have to verify is the frequencies.
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i found an H860n on ebay for $561. is this the same variant? thanks in advance.
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No IT Has to be a H850 from Europe.
H860 is a dualsim LG g5.
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No IT Has to be a H850 from Europe.
H860 is a dualsim LG g5.
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sooooo all i'm seeing is h850 is a tmobile? is that the same thing? not seeing anything that specifically says european version.
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sooooo all i'm seeing is h850 is a tmobile? is that the same thing? not seeing anything that specifically says european version.
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You have to be sure that the Phone Comes from a European country.
And like mohsinkhan35 mentioned you schuld check the frequencies
Edit: in a Lot of countrys tmobile is a Network Carrier.
I don think that Helps.
Maybe ask the selber.
Amazon just started selling the RS988 model that is supposedly fully unlocked and supports all the US carrier frequency bands. I just ordered one today - $649.99 + tax, free same day delivery (in some areas - I'm in LA).
http://amzn.to/206SH6F
When I get it, I'll let you know if it is actually fully unlocked.
BestBuy also has fully unlocked G5s.
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sooooo all i'm seeing is h850 is a tmobile? is that the same thing? not seeing anything that specifically says european version.
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Clove is where I bought mine... Very reputable seller out of the UK. Myself and some other people on the forums bought their H850 from clove. Got mine via DHL from the UK to Colorado in 2 days!
Verified H850 unlocked, unbranded, and made for UK but listed as EU open. Have had ZERO issues that others report.
Everytime I look at the lg g5 site listing the price goes down.
If u want guaranteed root and twrp go with H850 EU open variant. Do not buy from eBay! Go with Clove or AmazonUK.
Also H850 supports all the band's you'll need unless u decide to join CDMA network. DO not get RS988 , if history has shown us anything about LG, it tells us that variant will only ever be carrier unlocked.
Clove link:
https://m.clove.co.uk/lg-g5
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hey guys i am officially done with samsung after a complete circus ride of an s6. would like to buy a g5 but there are so many flippin variants i don't know what to buy. i'm currently on at&t, and i know they are all against unlocking the boot loader, so which do i get? i saw that the european g5 is the only one to get twrp? i found an H860n on ebay for $561. is this the same variant? thanks in advance.
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Just a PSA if you get the rs988 do not change or update your imei. Att does not recognize the device in any way and you would be stuck with hspa+ just was on the phone with them had to use my old imei.
Thanks for the clove link. How long does shipping take? Kinda wanting to get one asap.
I'm planning to buy my new phone since my Lg g4 occurred a boot loop issue recently. I purchased a Huawei honor 5x and I'm not satisfied, (LG g4 is far more superior than honor 5x sorry) and planning to upgrade to G5. I saw a deal on B&H, LG G5 Rs988(North american variant unlocked) with charging cradle, extra battery and $50 B&H gift certificate for only $399. Then last night, I saw a new deal from B&H which is LG G5 H820 (At&t variant unlocked) for only $339. What should i get, The h820 or the rs988? Do these variants received a nougnat update with no issues? Just disregard the bundle i really don't care with the bundle. I just want to have a phone no problem at all (in terms of LTE and gps since image retention can be fix). And I'm planning to use T-Mobile sim card for my new phone and I'm hearing some issues that their LTE doesn't work. Please help me on choosing between H820 (At&t variant unlocked) and Rs988 (north american variant unlocked). And i'm from California if this is needed. Thank you so much!
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I have owned the RS988 first then swapped to the H820 as LTE was a nightmare to get working on AT&T using the RS988, plus the H820 has Wifi calling and one other thing I forgot that made the jump worth it for me. H820 does have AT&T bloatware on it, but it's manageable. Neither model has root or Android Nougat yet. Neither work with the B&O Hi-Fi DAC module, nor have FM radio. I can't talk about T-Mobile working or not. Those are my experiences for you!
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I have owned the RS988 first then swapped to the H820 as LTE was a nightmare to get working on AT&T using the RS988, plus the H820 has Wifi calling and one other thing I forgot that made the jump worth it for me. H820 does have AT&T bloatware on it, but it's manageable. Neither model has root or Android Nougat yet. Neither work with the B&O Hi-Fi DAC module, nor have FM radio. I can't talk about T-Mobile working or not. Those are my experiences for you!
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thanks for the reply! i already bought the rs988 from b&h since they have a deal $449 with free battery cradle, extra battery, lg cam plus, lg 360 vr and free expedited shipping. so i grabbed it. i dont really use the wifi cqlling but that is a big plus. but i saw that all frequency of tmobile is supported by rs988 so i hope there will be no problem in Lte haha. i hope LG provide a nougnat update for both h820 and rs988. thanks a lot!
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Hey everyone,
I've been looking for a new phone for some time now. I was playing around based on specifications I'd like my next phone to have, I currently have a Oneplus One and would like something a little more updated. I found the G5 to meet my requirements but it seems there are a ton of models and I'm not quite sure which one is good? I intend to root/rom/etc so which one would you guys recommend getting for someone with T-Mobile? Thanks in advance
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Hey everyone,
I've been looking for a new phone for some time now. I was playing around based on specifications I'd like my next phone to have, I currently have a Oneplus One and would like something a little more updated. I found the G5 to meet my requirements but it seems there are a ton of models and I'm not quite sure which one is good? I intend to root/rom/etc so which one would you guys recommend getting for someone with T-Mobile? Thanks in advance
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The H830 is the T Mobile model and is rootable, and you can unlock the bootloader, the only other one I am aware of is the H850, only the EU model can be unlocked
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gotham2krazy said:
Hey everyone,
I've been looking for a new phone for some time now. I was playing around based on specifications I'd like my next phone to have, I currently have a Oneplus One and would like something a little more updated. I found the G5 to meet my requirements but it seems there are a ton of models and I'm not quite sure which one is good? I intend to root/rom/etc so which one would you guys recommend getting for someone with T-Mobile? Thanks in advance
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Besides the H830 (which TMobile doesn't sell any longer the only other US model that is unlockable is the RS988. B&H photo has them on sale for 250 right now. They are brand new with full warranty. I just bought one from there last month which I rooted an am using on Verizon. I had the VS987 prior and also the H830. Which I rooted. But had an issue getting it sim unlocked for other carriers. The only thing that the RS988 can't do is wifi calling but I've never needed that anyway. The RS988 I got from B&H also was manufactured in 3/2017 so they have newer builds not old stock laying around. Verizon recently stopped selling this phone as well so it's only a matter of time before there are no new ones left.
Good Luck
I know the locked version will for sure, but what about the unlocked version? If you have any official info, please post it here.
Thanks!
Yes, it will. The unlocked LG G6 US997 released a few months ago vhas Verizon VoLTE, so this will too.
However, Wi-Fi calling doesn't work.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72372878&postcount=8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=72538132
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Yes, it will. The unlocked LG G6 US997 released a few months ago vhas Verizon VoLTE, so this will too.
However, Wi-Fi calling doesn't work.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72372878&postcount=8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=72538132
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Hi Chazz,
Well here's the problem though. T-Mobile REQUIRED VoLTE to be certified with them before it works. It takes time and money to get certified. But like AT&T and Verizon don't, so not as difficult with them. That's why I'm asking cuz no official word yet on the unlocked V30 getting it. Obviously for sure the locked T-Mobile variant will be VoLTE-certified with T-Mo though.
Yeah Wi-Fi Calling I think is only available on T-Mobile still. I think?
RockStar2005 said:
Hi Chazz,
Well here's the problem though. T-Mobile REQUIRED VoLTE to be certified with them before it works. It takes time and money to get certified. But like AT&T and Verizon don't, so not as difficult with them. That's why I'm asking cuz no official word yet on the unlocked V30 getting it. Obviously for sure the locked T-Mobile variant will be VoLTE-certified with T-Mo though.
Yeah Wi-Fi Calling I think is only available on T-Mobile still. I think?
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I apologize, I mis-read. For some reason I thought you were asking about Verizon VoLTE. I'll research. If the unlocked G6 has it on T-Mobile, then this will too. But I only researched Verizon. Sorry.
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I apologize, I mis-read. For some reason I thought you were asking about Verizon VoLTE. I'll research. If the unlocked G6 has it on T-Mobile, then this will too. But I only researched Verizon. Sorry.
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No problem at all man! Yeah it would be good to know how they handled the Unlocked G6 on T-Mobile.
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No problem at all man! Yeah it would be good to know how they handled the Unlocked G6 on T-Mobile.
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See these two threads which specifically talk about US997 LG G6 and T-mobile VoLTE.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-t-mobile-t3655410
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Model US997 does not have wifi calling. Yes to Volte, but no wifi calling!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-wifi-calling-tmobile-t3672190
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I did have wifi calling enabled as well as VoLTE on my unlocked G6. I'm not sure why you don't have that option but I did.
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So, both say yes to VoLTE on T-mobile but disagree on wi-fi calling.
I can only assume the US998 LG V30 carrier unlocked version will be as good or better on T-mobile.
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See these two threads which specifically talk about US997 LG G6 and T-mobile VoLTE.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-t-mobile-t3655410
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-wifi-calling-tmobile-t3672190
So, both say yes to VoLTE on T-mobile but disagree on wi-fi calling.
I can only assume the LG V30 carrier unlocked version will be as good or better.
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Ok thanks! Maybe after it comes out I'll make sure. I could care less about Wi-Fi Calling though I have used it once or twice. VoLTE is very important though. Hopefully it has both.
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See these two threads which specifically talk about US997 LG G6 and T-mobile VoLTE.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-t-mobile-t3655410
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/lg-g6-us997-wifi-calling-tmobile-t3672190
So, both say yes to VoLTE on T-mobile but disagree on wi-fi calling.
I can only assume the US998 LG V30 carrier unlocked version will be as good or better on T-mobile.
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I'm confused though. Is the Unlocked G6 the same as the Int'l Unlocked G6? The variant you posted was the U.S. Cellular one.
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I'm confused though. Is the Unlocked G6 the same as the Int'l Unlocked G6? The variant you posted was the U.S. Cellular one.
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It's coincidentally the U.S.Cellular model number also -- as will be the US998 LG G30.
There's a U.S. unlocked model and a European unlocked model for the LG G6. There's no "international" model.
See here:
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
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It's coincidentally the U.S.model also, as will be the US998 LG G30.
There's a U.S. unlocked model and a European unlocked model for the LG G6. There's no "international" model.
See here:
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
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Ok, interesting.
So the U.S. Unlocked G6 had VoLTE for sure then it seems. Cool, thanks for sharing this info!! :good:
I will probably still wait for verification on here from someone before I buy the Unlocked one. I want the unlocked one cuz it will be cheaper than the T-Mobile variant.
Do you know anyone who has T-Mobile and also plans to get the Unlocked U.S. variant of the V30 as well?? lol
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It's coincidentally the U.S.Cellular model number also -- as will be the US998 LG G30.
There's a U.S. unlocked model and a European unlocked model for the LG G6. There's no "international" model.
See here:
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
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Hey Chazz,
Any idea if the unlocked US V30's DAC will get B&O Certification like the int'l V20 did (but US V20 didn't)?
What about the locked US ones?? Will any version get it? Update: Ok it looks like the US version won't get it, but the European one will. Oh well. No big deal.
It appears that the unlocked V30 will get released on 10/27. B&H.com shows that date for the US998. I'm very likely going to buy it.
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Hey Chazz,
Any idea if the unlocked US V30's DAC will get B&O Certification like the int'l V20 did (but US V20 didn't)?
What about the locked US ones?? Will any version get it? Update: Ok it looks like the US version won't get it, but the European one will. Oh well. No big deal.
It appears that the unlocked V30 will get released on 10/27. B&H.com shows that date for the US998. I'm very likely going to buy it.
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No, I don't know about the B&O certification. It really took me by surprise the U.S. carrier versions didn't have B&O logo on the back and didn't have B&O headphones included. LG made such a big deal about that in the press release...
Yet, all the pre-production "US998" phones lent out for few weeks to U.S.-based tech reporters (which had to be returned after reviews) did have B&O logo and did have the headphones.
(Nobody got "free phones". That was a myth some people were spreading, saying that's why the V30 got such great reviews. People who don't understand how all this works. Yes, it helps for reviewers to have new phones in hand for a couple of weeks prior to global announcement -- with signed non-disclosure agreements -- so they can immediately write about them when embargo is lifted, but those phones are loaners. Nobody gets to keep $800 phones.)
So, does that mean the production official carrier unlocked US998 with also have those B&O features -- since the pre-production model did? Your guess is as good as mine.
I'm hoping the 10/27 date by B&H is not just a placeholder date that will mysteriously morph into 11/14 or something. Just keep in mind 10/27 would be two weeks sooner than the LG G6 US997 was released after carriers started selling their versions. Then, six weeks after that (total of 11 weeks after carrier versions) was the LG G6 US997 (and European counterpart) placed on the official bootloader unlock list. Since I'm not buying until I can root from Day 1, just when B&H starts selling is not as important as the bootloader unlock list.
I'm hoping LG speeds up the total timeline, including adding LG V30 US998 and H930 to the bootloader unlock list. THEN, the real fun can begin. :laugh:
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No, I don't know about the B&O certification. It really took me by surprise the U.S. carrier versions didn't have B&O logo on the back and didn't have B&O headphones included. LG made such a big deal about that in the press release...
Yet, all the pre-production "US998" phones lent out for few weeks to U.S.-based tech reporters (which had to be returned after reviews) did have B&O logo and did have the headphones.
(Nobody got "free phones". That was a myth some people were spreading, saying that's why the V30 got such great reviews. People who don't understand how all this works. Yes, it helps for reviewers to have new phones in hand for a couple of weeks prior to global announcement -- with signed non-disclosure agreements -- so they can immediately write about them when embargo is lifted, but those phones are loaners. Nobody gets to keep $800 phones.)
So, does that mean the production official carrier unlocked US998 with also have those B&O features -- since the pre-production model did? Your guess is as good as mine.
I'm hoping the 10/27 date by B&H is not just a placeholder date that will mysteriously morph into 11/14 or something. Just keep in mind 10/27 would be two weeks sooner than the LG G6 US997 was released after carriers started selling their versions. Then, six weeks after that (total of 11 weeks after carrier versions) was the LG G6 US997 (and European counterpart) placed on the official bootloader unlock list. Since I'm not buying until I can root from Day 1, just when B&H starts selling is not as important as the bootloader unlock list.
I'm hoping LG speeds up the total timeline, including adding LG V30 US998 and H930 to the bootloader unlock list. THEN, the real fun can begin. :laugh:
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Well it appears that T-Mobile actually IS having a promotion (or promotions) for the locked V30 after all. So I guess I'm just gonna buy the locked one. No sense in waiting. I can just sell the Plus tablet for prob at least $180 on eBay so F it. lol Plus I'm gonna sell my Topaz Gold HTC 10 for maybe $250? and then pay off the remaining $140 I owe on it. They ran out of the Topaz Gold one months ago, so I'm guessing that's why it's going for higher than the other colors (selling for around $200 vs. $300) which they still had available more recently.
Just called T-Mobile now and bought the locked V30 over the phone. I'd still like to thank you so much for all your help & info here! It is VERY much appreciated Chazz.
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Just called T-Mobile now and bought the locked V30 over the phone. I'd still like to thank you so much for all your help & info here! It is VERY much appreciated Chazz.
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You're very welcome. Glad to help when I can.
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You're very welcome. Glad to help when I can.
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One thing, the locked T-Mo V30 will have that Band 71/600 MHz capability (first one ever on their network). Do we have any idea if the unlocked V30 will have that too? VoLTE seems pretty likely given your findings on the unlocked G6, but what about this?
Need full system dumps or full images for the locked/unlocked US version to possibly find out the B71 support.
Went through Korean version system dump but couldn't find hints for B71.
VeixES said:
Need full system dumps or full images for the locked/unlocked US version to possibly find out the B71 support.
Went through Korean version system dump but couldn't find hints for B71.
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Interesting.
Do we know if Korea even has Band 71? That would probably be a good indication of if the unlocked one will get it too.
This is the reason why I went for the T-Mobile locked version............guaranteed Band 71 (though my area doesn't have it, YET lol)........plus guaranteed T-Mo Certified VoLTE. The unlocked V30 I believe probably will have VoLTE, but will it be T-Mo certified VoLTE is the real question for me. With the promo T-Mo is running to get the $500 G6 for free (which I am selling at a profit of course lol.....made more sense to get that vs. the tablet and then profit less) along with your V30 purchase, then the price difference b/t the unlocked and locked versions no longer matters. I'm selling the G6 to a relative, and agreed to $225. That right there puts my $800 locked V30 at below the expected price of the unlocked ($700?) if you subtract that profit from the $800 cost. Yeah I'll have bloatware lol, but I'll just disable or uninstall them.
Thanks for checkin' into this VeixES!
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Interesting.
Do we know if Korea even has Band 71? That would probably be a good indication of if the unlocked one will get it too.
This is the reason why I went for the T-Mobile locked version............guaranteed Band 71 (though my area doesn't have it, YET lol)........plus guaranteed T-Mo Certified VoLTE. The unlocked V30 I believe probably will have VoLTE, but will it be T-Mo certified VoLTE is the real question for me. With the promo T-Mo is running to get the $500 G6 for free (which I am selling at a profit of course lol.....made more sense to get that vs. the tablet and then profit less) along with your V30 purchase, then the price difference b/t the unlocked and locked versions no longer matters. I'm selling the G6 to a relative, and agreed to $225. That right there puts my $800 locked V30 at below the expected price of the unlocked ($700?) if you subtract that profit from the $800 cost. Yeah I'll have bloatware lol, but I'll just disable or uninstall them.
Thanks for checkin' into this VeixES!
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No, Korean doesn't have band 71.
Sent from my official carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
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No, Korean doesn't have band 71.
Sent from my official carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
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Well then I'm VERY glad I got the T-Mobile locked version. lol
Hey guys, i had this LS993 G6 Sprint unrooted and sim card locked for about a year. Months ago a few fellas here on XDA thrown away the idea that you could flash unlocked Canadian variant LG H873 firmware and you were going to be sim unlocked, Sprint debloated and maybe rootable. And it was a royal success:good::good:
I've just got this LG G5 Sprint LS992 from eBay for a buddy's birthday gift and i was thinking if can i do the very same process. With let's say flashing H831 (Canadian unlocked variant firmware) to achieve SIM unlock, Sprint debloat and probably root.
I've seen this very same conversion has been done with newer Sprint models like V30+ and a couple others so fingers crossed it can work. Please let me know if anyone has tried it.
****, i just realized the tittle of the thread says "converted" but i had in mine "can it be converted"... My apologize if anyone comes thinking i've already done it. It's a gift for a buddy so i would prefer not to risk bricking it.
Maybe someone has an already cracked or old one that can be risked.