Related
are these newer android phones giving more reasons to stay stock? I have found with the G2 that I have no want (or need) right now to root/ROM this phone. Usually when I get a new phone the first thing I do is root it, clear all that carrier crap out, or simply flash CM for that stock android experience; I just have not found that need with the G2.
So, what is the point of this thread?
I want to know everyone's thoughts about this. Are you rooted...are you stock....and why you are or are not?
If you are rooted, I would also like to know what ROM/Kernel/etc you are running.
Thanks!
I am rooted but on stock everything else.
I mainly rooted for Titanium Backup and other root enabled apps like AdBlock and Greenify. Beyond that, stock is sufficient for me.
Stock unrooted. Since greenify is avaliable without root I kinda found no real reason to root. The only thing I really want is the dual window option from LG g flex. Maybe also to try out dorimanx kernel for undervolting and messing around a bit.
Sent from my LG-D802 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
vPro97 said:
Stock unrooted. Since greenify is avaliable without root I kinda found no real reason to root. The only thing I really want is the dual window option from LG g flex. Maybe also to try out dorimanx kernel for undervolting and messing around a bit.
Sent from my LG-D802 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The main reason I usually root/rom is for speed and battery life....as we all know the G2 doesnt lack anything in either. I use the greenify beta as well and have noticed a huge difference in my battery life. The only thing tempting me to root is Titanium Backup but I have been fighting it because I'm so damn happy with the phone as it sits.
andydumi said:
I am rooted but on stock everything else.
I mainly rooted for Titanium Backup and other root enabled apps like AdBlock and Greenify. Beyond that, stock is sufficient for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1
andydumi said:
I am rooted but on stock everything else.
I mainly rooted for Titanium Backup and other root enabled apps like AdBlock and Greenify. Beyond that, stock is sufficient for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Link for adblock? Or at least point me in right direction
Root + Flex rom + Custom kernel
Why?
I like stock rom (UI and feature) but flex rom is better (Black UI + more feature)
I'm rooted and stock. Stock rocks. I'm also running g2 xposed. With this you have all the customizations on aosp but on stock Rom
Sent from my LG-D801 using Tapatalk
Xenovias said:
Root + Flex rom + Custom kernel
Why?
I like stock rom (UI and feature) but flex rom is better (Black UI + more feature)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if there was a Flex rom for the Sprint variant, I would probably reconsider. Althoughhhh I am running the LG Flex theme thru LG's theme manager which gives me a somewhat similar look to the Flex.
I like the stock ROM with xposed, but now I'm on AOSP, because micro stuttering on stock started to bug me, even if it was barely noticeable.
thoughts....
Flashing is so played out for me. A new feature gets added and something else breaks and needs to be fixed...repeat.
.....At this point just root and do your own thing(s).
But I have not did anything to this phone, it works just fine.
I'm stuck but rooted with a few xposed modules, adblock and of course the camera mod. Now it's perfect! Never been this happy with a device. I played with AOSP kk and that was fun for awhile. I came from a gnex previously, which I loved despite the shortcomings.
Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk
I have 3x VS980s. Two are happy with being 100% stock.
I rooted mine from day1, but stayed with stock-based ROM for a month as I was happy with stockLG (I can satisfy my flashing urges with
my N7) ... Then I decided to explore the latest/greatest of Android on this phone... I would never go back to stock and don't even care when/if LG
would release a stock 4.4.x (OK, maybe we need the new OEM kernel source).
ROM+gapps are normally ~200MB instead of a huge download.
I get to try so many features out .. I can switch to other ROM (or even my Stock) Backups in a few minutes, if my mood changes.
Not that I fully need those features ... just the feeling of doing things freely.
I'm currently staying with Mahdi ... lean, fast, so-many-features, no issues (I had some freezes/reboots on early releases, still no biggies then).
DirtyUnicorns is great too, but may need some little time to smooth out the little bugs
Played around like 3 days with roms, i turned into a flashaholic, flex, non flex, tried so many roms and at the end of this, im on stock rooted now. i bought G2 Xposed (0,70 € - definitely worth!) and now it looks cool, its fast, stable, what else do i need? Darker UI? For what exactly? I actually using apps and not the starving at the settings and think "wow cool, its dark". no need, really. im pretty happy currently with full stock rooted. the next days i will customize my homescreen a bit and then its ready. just wait for 4.4
YOLO
Stock, rooted, debloated, xposed to get rid of GPS and dual wifi/lte notifications.
I'm coming from the HTC Rezound. I usually go for CM, but am very impressed with the LG interface. I have been tempted to try a flex Rom, but am happy having a phone that everything works, and has amazing battery life.
Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk
tylerjames09 said:
if there was a Flex rom for the Sprint variant, I would probably reconsider. Althoughhhh I am running the LG Flex theme thru LG's theme manager which gives me a somewhat similar look to the Flex.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Their not a flex rom for sprint.
Sent from my LG-LS980 using xda premium
After flashing my Galaxy Nexus several times a week, and sometimes a few times in a day, for two years, I fully expected that I'd be doing the same with the G2. But I've been very pleasantly surprised at the speed, smoothness, features and battery life with stock. Stock has also been incredibly stable for me, No FC's, no lockups.
The stocks apps are much better than I expected -- the functionality has been excellent. I'm keeping an eye on the various sub-forums here for the G2, and may wind up flashing something new, but so far, I don't see anything more appealing than stock, and I'm not ready to give up the stock features. I may wind up with Flex, but I'm also guessing that there will be an update for the G2 sometime in the next 2 or 3 months, and my guess is that it may have some of the extra feature's we're seeing today in the Flex ROM. For now - I'm happy to remain stock, experiment with themes for the stock launcher and simply enjoy this fantastic phone. Still feels weird, as this is the first phone I've had where I'm really happy with stock.
^^Same exact situation for me,I'm loving the g2,just need to get rid of some of the bloat. But something deep inside really wants to start flashing away,but it's just too good as is, I stopped after root and recovery.
Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk
I rooted first to get rid of all the status bar icons. Overkill lol I don't need to know NFC or WiFi is on. And with xposed tweaks, its all I need. I have zero interested in an asop ROM. Using flex and love it
Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk
Hi guys I have'nt found much information on this forum regarding the intermittent lag/crashes on G2s that I'm experiencing (d802 version specifically) running kitkat aosp ROMs so I thought I might report my experience to see if I'm not alone here.
After I upgraded from CM 10.2 to CM11 my device would start lagging at random times during the day followed itevitably by a crash mostly after about 3 minutes of use (messaging, browsing, youtubing etc) where the screen would freeze and go black (and eventually come back.)
A reboot was always necessary which resolved the problem temporarily. These crashes happened between 1-3 times per day and were extremely frustrating.
The device in question is a d802 running CM11 and stock kernel.
They happened after fresh installs, even with only system apps. I tried flashing a custom kernel, playing with different settings and switching to other kitkat ROMs with little to no change.
I finally bit the bullet and switched back to CM10.2 stable and all is well with my phone now. I couldn't make the phone lag if I tried, its back to its beasty glory.
This device clearly must have an issue with Aosp ROMs on kitkat (or maybe I just picked a bad one) and its a real shame. If anyone has the same problem please share your experiences and maybe we can get to the bottom of this thing
Art Vanderlay said:
Hi guys I have'nt found much information on this forum regarding the intermittent lag/crashes on G2s that I'm experiencing (d802 version specifically) running kitkat aosp ROMs so I thought I might report my experience to see if I'm not alone here.
After I upgraded from CM 10.2 to CM11 my device would start lagging at random times during the day followed itevitably by a crash mostly after about 3 minutes of use (messaging, browsing, youtubing etc) where the screen would freeze and go black (and eventually come back.)
A reboot was always necessary which resolved the problem temporarily. These crashes happened between 1-3 times per day and were extremely frustrating.
The device in question is a d802 running CM11 and stock kernel.
They happened after fresh installs, even with only system apps. I tried flashing a custom kernel, playing with different settings and switching to other kitkat ROMs with little to no change.
I finally bit the bullet and switched back to CM10.2 stable and all is well with my phone now. I couldn't make the phone lag if I tried, its back to its beasty glory.
This device clearly must have an issue with Aosp ROMs on kitkat (or maybe I just picked a bad one) and its a real shame. If anyone has the same problem please share your experiences and maybe we can get to the bottom of this thing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yep stock is better than cm11 or any aosp roms. aeonflex was a really good rom so was cloudy flex. they are flex based
CM11 has always been buggy for me. Try running a different 4.4 ROM,
Nameless is running perfectly for me
Sent from my LG-D801 using xda app-developers app
Pretty surprising that all the big players like cm or aokp would be the buggiest. At least there's other options for an upgrade
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2630977
Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk
I'm using omni. Without any issues at all. No freezes or anything like that.
Tried PA and CM11, both really buggy, just like the op described. Flashed cm10.2 but it just doesnt work with my fitbit so now ive gone back to stock. While stock is good, it just feels so sow compared to asop based roms.
If you want a AOSP rom really hard, try "Mahdi" rom.. i tried it for a day and it fits perfectly for me
But now i'm on stock rom (CloudyStock) because... it's awesome and i like the LG UI
Using Mahdi combined with the furnace kernel, no slowdowns and very rarely do I get random reboots. Highly suggested :good:
I have these freezes several times a day too. I noticed one time that my systemui stopped working with it
my guess: maybe it has something to do with the systemui?
CM11 ran great for me on my D801, but I just couldn't deal with the in call echo issue.
Art Vanderlay said:
Pretty surprising that all the big players like cm or aokp would be the buggiest. At least there's other options for an upgrade
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
blame closed source drivers. the devs making these customs pull hattricks so you can have a custom rom. All without documentation and such, thats why they can be buggy.
Sent from my LG-D802 using xda app-developers app
shohid1234 said:
Tried PA and CM11, both really buggy, just like the op described. Flashed cm10.2 but it just doesnt work with my fitbit so now ive gone back to stock. While stock is good, it just feels so sow compared to asop based roms.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is the speed really noticeable?
Or
Is it worth it to upgrade just because of this speed factor?
Sent from my LG-D802 using Tapatalk
Thanks for all the great suggestions guys. I'm currently using the latest carbon ROM nightly and its running like clockwork. Will update if anything changes though.
But its definitely worth experimenting with other ROMs.
This started as a PM to a member that seemed like it might be at least a little useful to others as well, so I'm putting it in a thread. The question asked was (heavily paraphrased): What works/what doesn't on AOSP vs. Stock? My answer can't possibly cover every positive/negative out there, so a thread might help those on the fence or just considering giving it a whirl. What I can do is help people that haven't flashed AOSP to take note of the quirks in actually getting one installed.
First, some tips on flashing an AOSP ROM to the VS985 G3.
I always wipe everything, including internal storage, but especially so when jumping between stock & AOSP. Then I install all software from my SD card. That's a personal preference, but I almost never have problems and attribute that to thorough wiping.
This is pretty basic, but if you've only flashed stock, you need to know that AOSP requires you to flash both the ROM itself and gapps. I'm using the TK Gapps Full package, for what that's worth.
Specific to our phone, if you value the QuickRemote app, you can get it for flashing and use on AOSP ROMs. See this thread.
You will probably want a better camera than the Google camera included with AOSP. To that end, I use the flashable MotoX camera port and accompanying gallery. See this thread for that camera. There are other cameras and I'm happy to post what people use in here if you supply links.
Lastly, some ROMs do a baseband check. Since 24B is somewhat new, chances are decent you'll be trying to flash an AOSP ROM that dislikes your modem, so you'll need to flash the 23C modem before you flash the ROM; otherwise it may thrown an error and refuse to install the ROM. After installing you can then flash back to 24B modem (which gets better signal for me). Here are the modems:
23C modem - https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934553732
24B modem - https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347773137
Everybody does things differently, but my process for installing is....
Install Process
0) Back up your photos/files. Back up your apps with Titanium Backup & move them to your SD card.
1) Wipe everything, including internal storage.
2) Install the ROM.
3) (optional) Install the Kernel of your choice. **
4) Install gapps.
5) Install camera (and gallery if you want).
6) Install QuickRemote.
7) Wipe cache/dalvic for good measure.
8) Boot up, log in, get everything set up.
9) (optional) Go back into TWRP and install the 24B Modem.
**It's usually worth it to check out the stock kernel first, then if you want to try others you can do so later on. IF it's later, personally, I always wipe cache/dalvic after flashing a kernel. I'm putting the step in there because if I already know the kernel and like it, or if I'm upgrading the ROM, I'll go ahead and install with the ROM.
Thoughts/Experience Comments
The only real thing I miss vs. stock is the camera. That said, there are good options out there, including the previously mentioned MotoX. Image quality seems to be near, if not quite all the way to, stock. It doesn't seem to want to save photos to SD though, so keep that in mind when you want to flash a different ROM - you'll need to get your photos off internal storage.
If you use a different camera and want to supply a link/links, please do so and I'll be happy to add them to the OP!
Aside from the camera, there has always been talk of slightly decreased signal. I have not found that to be the case; in fact, WiFi seems stronger. I do not use bluetooth at all, but have seen in the past that bluetooth has been an issue, depending on the ROM. You'll just need to read through ROM threads and find out whether that's an issue for you. I have zero functionality problems with anything.
Battery life is definitely better for me on AOSP. SkyDragon is superb for a stock ROM, but stock stuff on top of AOSP does cost some battery, even though SkyDragon does a superb job of minimizing that.
Truth be told, I prefer the AOSP interface to LG's. The main reason I usually stick with stock/go back to stock is the camera. The moto camera is close enough that I might stay with AOSP for a while, at least until LG updates stock again, then my crack-flash-addiction may take over.
FWIW, I am very happily using Orion ROM right now, along with the Nebula kernel and TK Gapps.
Please feel free to share your input on AOSP experience. Mine is not all-encompassing, and surely people have problems that I haven't run into. Also share your cameras - I'm always on the lookout for good options there too.
The only thing that keeps me coming back to stock (which I really don't care for) is that I feel like receiving SMS and MMS is delayed by a minute or more on AOSP.
I've been back and forth. And like you, I simply cannot do without Xcam. I've had some problems with the Moto cam freezing up. Xcam gives me top notch quality. And speaker quality on stock is much better with Dolby mod. Battery life is much better on AOSP. But I I find LG stock to be overall much more stable.
I agree with the OP's opinion about stock vs. ASOP. I was on CM 12.1 for a couple of weeks and I really enjoyed the fast boot times, better battery life and patched Stagefright security hole. I had some issues customizing the onscreen buttons where it wouldn't stick, depending on which daily you ran that week.
But I really missed the camera: stock is much better than any of the suggested substitutes, IMHO.
Amusingly, I'm back on stock again. My little affair with AOSP was, as it seems to ever be, relatively short lived. I really enjoy the interface, but things are just more smooth on SkyDragon. No amount of optimization can seem to overcome the proprietary driver capability on stock. I love AOSP, but can't seem to stick with it for very long. Oh, and the camera. Stock (again, proprietary driver issue) is just plain better.
On the plus side, I'm getting the same signal strength now on Stock and AOSP with the 24B modem. That disparity seems to be a thing of the past. I'm not completely done with AOSP and have a nandroid backup of both of them that I bounce between now, because why not? Orion is a heck of a ROM and but for the camera and very minor GUI lag on occasion, it's close to as good as stock.
The stock LG rom is really laggy for me, especially pulling down the notification shade. My two year old Moto X is much smoother then this LG. Battery life sucks on the X though.
PiousInquisitor said:
The stock LG rom is really laggy for me, especially pulling down the notification shade. My two year old Moto X is much smoother then this LG. Battery life sucks on the X though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Even on a custom ROM? Try SkyDragon 5.0 w/ SkyDragon Kernel 4.2. Do NOT install Xposed via the Aroma installer though. It's an older version and removes LG weather/circle case which used to be required for Xposed to function. You're much better off installing the new version of Xposed after the ROM if you want to use that.
I get no such lag on SkyDragon. On absolute stock from LG I did get some, but not with HolyAngel's great ROM & kernel. :good:
hokiealumnus said:
Even on a custom ROM? Try SkyDragon 5.0 w/ SkyDragon Kernel 4.2. Do NOT install Xposed via the Aroma installer though. It's an older version and removes LG weather/circle case which used to be required for Xposed to function. You're much better off installing the new version of Xposed after the ROM if you want to use that.
I get no such lag on SkyDragon. On absolute stock from LG I did get some, but not with HolyAngel's great ROM & kernel. :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the direct links. I was just digging through the last few pages looking for the 5.0 build. Ive been running Jasmine 8 and enjoying it but having some lag, same as stock. I ran the SD rom a while ago when it was on KK and didnt like it as much as Jas. Ill give it a try now. Switching roms on the G3 aint no thing right now as it isnt my primary device anymore. The SIM card slot died (used a sim adapter that ruined the pins) so im waiting to find someone with serious soldering skills to replace it.
Hey guys I am looking for a ROM for my girlfriend. What would you guys say is the best way to go for a blend of battery/speed/stability.
Stability is VERY important.. but if you guys say AOSP ROM I would loved for her to give that a shot.
Can any android phone run aosp? Or are there limitations on the hardware? I believe the Samsung device I have runs with CAF (based on the cm repos it uses) and I am not sure if its possible to run straight Google code or even if the kernel needs changes.
Sent from my SCH-R890 using XDA Free mobile app
musicfreak190 said:
Hey guys I am looking for a ROM for my girlfriend. What would you guys say is the best way to go for a blend of battery/speed/stability.
Stability is VERY important.. but if you guys say AOSP ROM I would loved for her to give that a shot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would go with the previously linked SkyDragon ROM and Kernel. Orion (AOSP) is very stable, but even so, stock is always best when stability is a #1 priority. Battery might be slightly better on AOSP, but nothing to call home about.
jason972000 said:
Can any android phone run aosp? Or are there limitations on the hardware? I believe the Samsung device I have runs with CAF (based on the cm repos it uses) and I am not sure if its possible to run straight Google code or even if the kernel needs changes.
Sent from my SCH-R890 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In theory, yes....but it is device dependent It requires a developer to put an AOSP ROM together for the specific device. It also requires a custom recovery (i.e. TWRP) to be able to flash the ROM.
For anyone following along with my minor flash-addiction saga, Orion just released a new update today, which of course I'm going to try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62503509&postcount=77
Edit - I really do hate it, but this just isn't as smooth as stock. Even tried messing with a different kernel without success. When even gmail isn't as smooth scrolling as it should be, that's a problem for me. Back to SkyDragon.
hokiealumnus said:
For anyone following along with my minor flash-addiction saga, Orion just released a new update today, which of course I'm going to try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62503509&postcount=77
Edit - I really do hate it, but this just isn't as smooth as stock. Even tried messing with a different kernel without success. When even gmail isn't as smooth scrolling as it should be, that's a problem for me. Back to SkyDragon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am about to flash the new Orion to replace CM12.1. I have never liked "stock" android roms that come with phones. AOSP and CM have always been so much better/smoother for me. they occasionally have stability issues but nothing that is ever too difficult to fix. The other main issue I have with stock is customizability. I have the ZeroLemon 9000mAH battery and stock based roms just dont work well with it. They seem to think it is a normal battery and will stay at 1-3% battery for hours which causes the camera to not open and other "power-saving" features to turn on...
Now to a question, hokiealumnus, have you had any issues flashing Orion? I haven't tried the newest version yet but when I tried to flash the older versions in TWRP (latest) it would give me an binary-updater issue. I see in your thread you recommend flashing the 23C modem before flashing a ROM because it could cause issues, I didn't know about that so I will try it tonight when I get home but was wondering if you knew if Orion was one of the ROMs with that issue?
r3xx3r said:
I am about to flash the new Orion to replace CM12.1. I have never liked "stock" android roms that come with phones. AOSP and CM have always been so much better/smoother for me. they occasionally have stability issues but nothing that is ever too difficult to fix. The other main issue I have with stock is customizability. I have the ZeroLemon 9000mAH battery and stock based roms just dont work well with it. They seem to think it is a normal battery and will stay at 1-3% battery for hours which causes the camera to not open and other "power-saving" features to turn on...
Now to a question, hokiealumnus, have you had any issues flashing Orion? I haven't tried the newest version yet but when I tried to flash the older versions in TWRP (latest) it would give me an binary-updater issue. I see in your thread you recommend flashing the 23C modem before flashing a ROM because it could cause issues, I didn't know about that so I will try it tonight when I get home but was wondering if you knew if Orion was one of the ROMs with that issue?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've always been intrigued by the ZeroLemon battery, but it was just too large for me to take the plunge.
Anyway, yes, you are correct on why it is giving you a binary-updater error. It's checking the baseband version and when it doesn't see the 23C modem, it throws the error. If you flash the 23C modem you'll get the ROM installed no problem. You can later re-install the 24B modem without issue, which performs better for me than 23C does.
Orion isn't the only AOSP ROM to have that problem either, I had it on BrokenROM when I tried that one as well.
hokiealumnus said:
I've always been intrigued by the ZeroLemon battery, but it was just too large for me to take the plunge.
Anyway, yes, you are correct on why it is giving you a binary-updater error. It's checking the baseband version and when it doesn't see the 23C modem, it throws the error. If you flash the 23C modem you'll get the ROM installed no problem. You can later re-install the 24B modem without issue, which performs better for me than 23C does.
Orion isn't the only AOSP ROM to have that problem either, I had it on BrokenROM when I tried that one as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
any idea why roms care what modem the phone has?
I really enjoy the ZeroLemon, it is f-ing huge on the G3, and quite a bit more expensive than older phones. I had it for the Galaxy S4 and it was about half the price. But I really enjoy it, I charge my phone every night anyway (old habit), but it is really nice to not have to and I am a pretty heavy user so battery is really important to me. I won't buy a phone if I can't get a big battery like this and put in at least a 32GB microsd card. The best (and kinda worst) part about the zerolemons are the rugged case. It offers really great protection from drops, though it is not easy to take off
r3xx3r said:
any idea why roms care what modem the phone has?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think it's attempting to ensure a) the phone the ROM is being installed on is the right phone and b) there isn't a KK modem (12B) on the phone, which does not work at all with Lollipop. (Likewise, Lollipop modems do NOT work with the KK builds.)
hokiealumnus said:
I think it's attempting to ensure a) the phone the ROM is being installed on is the right phone and b) there isn't a KK modem (12B) on the phone, which does not work at all with Lollipop. (Likewise, Lollipop modems do NOT work with the KK builds.)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that makes sense. so I just installed the latest Orion ROM and ran into a bad issue. have you had an issue with the Cellular Networks setting not enabling? I try to enable it in the Settings and it just turns itself off and I can only get 1X if that, I normally have LTE, i tried 23C and 24B modems and cleaned flashed twice. any suggestions?
r3xx3r said:
that makes sense. so I just installed the latest Orion ROM and ran into a bad issue. have you had an issue with the Cellular Networks setting not enabling? I try to enable it in the Settings and it just turns itself off and I can only get 1X if that, I normally have LTE, i tried 23C and 24B modems and cleaned flashed twice. any suggestions?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry to say I haven't had that issue, no. It takes more time on boot to acquire cell signal vs stock, but once it does it seems just as strong and 4G as stock.
If you haven't already, when clean flashing, do so by wiping internal storage too (and installing from SD Card). I find doing that when switching between stock and AOSP to be reliable. I mean, I regularly do that anyway, but especially when making that switch.
hokiealumnus said:
Sorry to say I haven't had that issue, no. It takes more time on boot to acquire cell signal vs stock, but once it does it seems just as strong and 4G as stock.
If you haven't already, when clean flashing, do so by wiping internal storage too (and installing from SD Card). I find doing that when switching between stock and AOSP to be reliable. I mean, I regularly do that anyway, but especially when making that switch.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That was part of what I did initially. I always wipe system, cache, dalvik, data, and internal storage when switching ROMS
r3xx3r said:
that makes sense. so I just installed the latest Orion ROM and ran into a bad issue. have you had an issue with the Cellular Networks setting not enabling? I try to enable it in the Settings and it just turns itself off and I can only get 1X if that, I normally have LTE, i tried 23C and 24B modems and cleaned flashed twice. any suggestions?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I recently switched from Jasmine 8.0 to Paranoidandroid. I liked the AOSP Rom for the most part but I had quite a few data network issues. My data kept dropping out and I either had to reboot or enable airplane mode and disable it. A couple of times it set airplane mode to on by itself. I did a clean flash but didn't help. Stock had been the most solid for me as pure basic functionality.
Sent from my VS985 4G using XDA Free mobile app
So, I've tried every which rom out there for the nexus 6p and got tired of dealing with sub par battery life, random hangs (albeit occasionally, but precisely when I needed it to not lag) and other issues. I even tried having 100% stock but with custom recovery and systemless root. Somehow though they were nice for a while they started to slow down and act up after a while. Finally I decided to go back to stock. Fastbooted and flashed stock from Google servers and even locked the bootloader and unchecked "allow unlocking".
I can honestly say that ever since then I've had zero issues and battery life has been phenomenal. No random lags or freezes or drain.
Perhaps this is how google wants the device to be used and stock Android has something in our that works properly only on a 100% factory set software.
Yea I miss the ios style emojis and ad bocker but at least now I can be rest assured about ota updates and using the device in the way google intended and thus having the best experience??
Also I think xposed is slowing down marshmallow and giving it some issues after a while.
What do you guys think ?
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Using a Stock based ROM with root, Adblocker and some Bloatware removed works the best for me. I remember Xposed to be buggy since Android 5, this is why I never used it again. Flashing Updates is not a big deal if you know how to use fastboot and how to flash single parts of a factory image.
Same here dude I have had android phones since the g1 rooted so many. I even remember when Franco was starting out lol. But with the nexus 6p I feel stock is the best experience I have tried a few ROMs but stock is great for this device... Don't get me wrong I feel I need to sometimes try a rom but I don't as it's a hassle now. 100% stock here.
I'm a happy custom rom flasher! Rocking with Chroma for now & like Sinless .. XDA Development for the win!
I'm using Pure Nexus with no issues whatsoever. It's essentially the stock ROM with a few goodies added.
That's where I'm at too. Tethering works, Android pay works, I have no problems with battery. Couldn't be better. I do miss some of the root/ROM features like center clock, different pictures on lock and home, double tap to wake and sleep though
Pure nexus works for me. But yea each phone will be a little different.
Agreed.. I buy nexus so I DON'T have to root to get that experience.
Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P
Placebo...
Absolutely not my experience. Used the phone about one month with stock ROM and flashed Chroma ROM and Franco's kernel then. First thing I noticed was the device running much cooler!! Not a single problem here...
Hmmm pure nexus with ak gives you much better performance and battery than stock.... On screwd at the moment. Also very good
Stock is stock the way the device was intended to be used. Any changes will come from the source, "customize" someone else's work lol..... Riiiiighhhht
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Cleva1 said:
Stock is stock the way the device was intended to be used. Any changes will come from the source, "customize" someone else's work lol..... Riiiiighhhht
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To what are you referring? Your post doesn't make much sense. Not saying that to be rude, just trying to understand what you're saying.
androidbuff123 said:
Finally I decided to go back to stock. Fastbooted and flashed stock from Google servers and even locked the bootloader and unchecked "allow unlocking".
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you are happy with pure stock, that's great. May I suggest unlocking that bootloader though. I've read about a couple guys where an OTA failed for whatever reason and the phone will not boot. With a locked bootloader, you have no hope of fixing it.
mikexda said:
If you are happy with pure stock, that's great. May I suggest unlocking that bootloader though. I've read about a couple guys where an OTA failed for whatever reason and the phone will not boot. With a locked bootloader, you have no hope of fixing it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I second this.
Battery for me has been the same. Also that white background settings UI I hate, black background just looks so much better
Opinion I know but it's an option is lose without root
Kinda Agree.. I'm on Chroma's Rom and not rooted. I like Chroma's subtle additional settings and stock kernel plus the Phone runs great. I will only load roms that use stock kernel because of lag and additional rom anomalies that happen when i need to do something...Ugh!
Choose your apps carefully, is my advice.
If you want to use facebook/messenger. Go for tinfoil or something like that instead. Also, disable the google apps you don't use. Maps can also be done with the browser and is one of the primary battery drains for example. Just like i noticed that since i disabled chrome and went for a chromium browser, battery life has gone up! Same with swiftkey instead of google keyboard, ecspecially with a nice black skin.
And yeah, use the drawer and dock for shortcuts, don't clog your homescreen with icons and widgets. That saves memory and thus battery power.
The thing i don't get though, is that with my z1 on 4.4.4 i could easily get 3 days with 5/6 hours screen on time. I really have to do my best to get that on my 6p. Even though the battery is 500 mah larger!
mikexda said:
If you are happy with pure stock, that's great. May I suggest unlocking that bootloader though. I've read about a couple guys where an OTA failed for whatever reason and the phone will not boot. With a locked bootloader, you have no hope of fixing it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the tip. That makes sense. Perhaps when ota update comes in and updates the factory recovery, it needs the "allow unlock" button checked.
Maybe that's why it was checked by default after factory reset.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
after messing with my custom build i ended up flashing stock, rooted and added clear all recents to the systemui apk
thats all i need
Just a simple poll.
I'd love to find out what Custom ROMs people have loaded and which one they are currently on and why.
No tolling, just curious.
Thanks.
(On the poll I included what seem to be the 13 most popular by views.)
I'm on xdabbebs vs985 2.0 and its been rock solid for me. I've only run aosp rims for maybe a couple of days at the most, there good but just not for me.
Sent from my VS985 4G using XDA Labs
As far as ROMs I've flashed, it seems like just about all of them lol but currently on Resurrection Remix and have been on it for a while. As far as why this ROM, because I want Marshmallow and I've found this to be the best for me in terms of features and stability.
I found a different ROM that had more features and I would have really liked to keep using, but there wasn't an official maintainer for vs985 so there were some weird issues that weren't likely to be fixed (ex. proximity sensor didn't work so the screen didn't turn off when holding your phone by your face, auto rotate didn't work, etc.)
After that ROM I decided to try stock MM ("real" stock, not stock-based or xdabbeb's) to avoid any weird problems thinking with LG and Verizon's QA I shouldn't really have any weird problems compared to custom ROMs that are constantly under development. This was true, but there were a lot of little things I was missing that custom ROMs give you so I found myself trying to do some workarounds to get some of them back. Then after a while I realized battery life was crazy. When my phone wasn't being used, my battery would last a REALLY long time. However, that was offset by it eating my battery up whenever I did use it. I mean like 95% after half a day of no use, then dropping to like 80% after 20 minutes of use. When I found myself limiting my use to conserve battery, it was time to go back to a custom ROM. That's when I went (back) to Resurrection Remix.
Sent from my LG-VS985 using Tapatalk