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I'm coming fresh from a Droid Rzr Maxx (2011) and ready to root this bad boy. I'm on VS985 and seeing some horror stories of not being able to unroot it and yaddah. But I've done my reading and can't seem to understand this whole "modem/image flashing" thing. Could somebody give me an ELI5 or tl;dr?
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I'm coming fresh from a Droid Rzr Maxx (2011) and ready to root this bad boy. I'm on VS985 and seeing some horror stories of not being able to unroot it and yaddah. But I've done my reading and can't seem to understand this whole "modem/image flashing" thing. Could somebody give me an ELI5 or tl;dr?
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I am wondering the same thing... This is my first lg device coming from htc and I think it's the same thing as flashing new radios.
An OTA or a ROM contains the system, boot, and modem images, along with a bunch of other stuff. If you take an OTA or flash an entire ROM, you get all of it. But taking an OTA is a big no-no if you've already rooted and/or have a custom recovery, so one way to get an update without doing that is to flash the system, boot, and modem .img manually. (See here) Those three contain the "meat" of an update and is usually what you want out of it.
Basically, you just put the three img files on your sdcard in your phone in a specific folder and use the zip files (already built and provided at the link above) and flash them in TWRP like you would anything else.
You always want to make sure the senior developers have had a look at the OTA and confirm that the imgs are safe to flash, though. An OTA needs to be checked for anti-rollback code, root patches, etc.
In the case of the 11C update, it does patch the root methods currently used for 10B. So you can only root if you're on the 10B version. If you have stock 11C, you need to rollback with the KDZ for the 10B version here.
If you have 10B, Stump and Bump both work great. It's also safe to flash the only the 11C modem.img if that's just what you want. It's a good update, too.
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An OTA or a ROM contains the system, boot, and modem images, along with a bunch of other stuff. If you take an OTA or flash an entire ROM, you get all of it. But taking an OTA is a big no-no if you've already rooted and/or have a custom recovery, so one way to get an update without doing that is to flash the system, boot, and modem .img manually. (See here) Those three contain the "meat" of an update and is usually what you want out of it.
Basically, you just put the three img files on your sdcard in your phone in a specific folder and use the zip files (already built and provided at the link above) and flash them in TWRP like you would anything else.
You always want to make sure the senior developers have had a look at the OTA and confirm that the imgs are safe to flash, though. An OTA needs to be checked for anti-rollback code, root patches, etc.
In the case of the 11C update, it does patch the root methods currently used for 10B. So you can only root if you're on the 10B version. If you have stock 11C, you need to rollback with the KDZ for the 10B version here.
If you have 10B, Stump and Bump both work great. It's also safe to flash the only the 11C modem.img if that's just what you want. It's a good update, too.
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Awesome! Thanks a bunch for this, very thorough. I'm sitting on 10b because I'm on the fence of rooting with L on the way here (hopefully) soon. So last question. If I stump then bump for TWRP, I can flash 11C and still hold root? Thanks.
Super_Luddite said:
Awesome! Thanks a bunch for this, very thorough. I'm sitting on 10b because I'm on the fence of rooting with L on the way here (hopefully) soon. So last question. If I stump then bump for TWRP, I can flash 11C and still hold root? Thanks.
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If you mean flashing the system, boot, and modem images, yes, you will still have root. That's what I did. You can also flash a ROM called JasmineRom to update, because that ROM is version 11C now as well. There is also a flashable rooted version of 11C here. The only way to be rooted on 11C right now is if you already had it on 10B. Hopefully not for long!
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Awesome! Thanks a bunch for this, very thorough. I'm sitting on 10b because I'm on the fence of rooting with L on the way here (hopefully) soon. So last question. If I stump then bump for TWRP, I can flash 11C and still hold root? Thanks.
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The Devs here will have a ported version of Android L long before the official update makes it down the pipeline from Verizon. The Bump site for developers was opened today and a version of CM11 and LiquidSmooth are both already Bump'd and ready to flash to the VS985. They are AOSP based and of course running 4.4.4. You don't need to worry about flashing the modem on top of the incorrect rom as I can report that I just flashed the 11C modem on top of LiquidSmooth with zero issues. The modem image is basically all you'll ever need to obtain officially from LG if you want to run custom roms. Also, @bunchies said that LiquidSmooth version of Android L is coming very soon, and he makes fantastic roms! If you are looking for more of an LG experience, the Android L official KDZ for the F400 has already been leaked and is running on those devices. This means that it will only be a matter of time before someone Bumps and ports that to the other variants, including our VS985.
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The Devs here will have a ported version of Android L long before the official update makes it down the pipeline from Verizon. The Bump site for developers was opened today and a version of CM11 and LiquidSmooth are both already Bump'd and ready to flash to the VS985. They are AOSP based and of course running 4.4.4. You don't need to worry about flashing the modem on top of the incorrect rom as I can report that I just flashed the 11C modem on top of LiquidSmooth with zero issues. The modem image is basically all you'll ever need to obtain officially from LG if you want to run custom roms. Also, @bunchies said that LiquidSmooth version of Android L is coming very soon, and he makes fantastic roms! If you are looking for more of an LG experience, the Android L official KDZ for the F400 has already been leaked and is running on those devices. This means that it will only be a matter of time before someone Bumps and ports that to the other variants, including our VS985.
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Oh thank goodness, I didn't know the Bump site opened today. I vouch for LiquidSmooth as well, it was my #1 go-to on my Galaxy S3.
So I've had the phone for less than a week. I've performed the ioroot procedure and installed twrp. Other than that, the phone is stock right now - 10B. I've performed a backup.
My phone is offering to install 11C. I'd like to update to that version, but at a glance it seems like there may be issues if I ever need to downgrade, or.. I may lose root.
So, for our specific phone, the VS985 model, what is the best way to upgrade to the latest stock ROM and keep root / the ability to downgrade?
Sorry for the noob question, but I'm new to the phone and am seeing some conflicting information, probably due to variances between different versions of the phone. I just want to do this right the first time and avoid having to ask more dumb questions
Look for the thread by bweN diorD in either General or Q&A that starts with [REF] and has img or images in the title.
Use the links in that thread to flash the 12b modem and system images, using autoprime's flash2Modem and flash2System zips (bweN links to that thread).
Your choice on whether you also want to flash the 12b boot image. I did flash the 11c boot, didn't bother with 12b.
After flashing the new images, anything you've tweaked in /system has to be re-nudged -- freezing verizon bloat, freezing "System updates..." (or renaming the /system/app LGDMSClient files), reinstalling the hotspot mod (if you need it). It's a pretty painless evolution.
(Definitely freeze System updates.... Once you've got twrp, if you try to install an OTA directly you'll get stuck in a boot-to-recovery problem. Autoprime has a flashable zip that wipes out the files causing the boot-to-recovery, I keep a copy of that zip loaded on my phone's user volume, but it's simpler to just not try to install an OTA.)
Wow. Okay. Thanks a lot. This is super helpful. I'm downloading as we speak. I hope you don't mind a followup question...
My understanding is that it is safer to avoid flashing the boot image because changes to the bootloader could affect root or the ability to roll back. Is there a reason you bothered flashing 11C?
For anyone else, the thread mentioned is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/reference-stock-img-files-t2966958
NegativeOne said:
Wow. Okay. Thanks a lot. This is super helpful. I'm downloading as we speak. I hope you don't mind a followup question...
My understanding is that it is safer to avoid flashing the boot image because changes to the bootloader could affect root or the ability to roll back. Is there a reason you bothered flashing 11C?
For anyone else, the thread mentioned is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/reference-stock-img-files-t2966958
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There is no downside to flashing it at this point, but I haven't seen proof there is any benefit either. I'm still on 10b running L ROMs no problem, so I don't see any point in updating anything but the modem.
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Which rom are you using?
Look down lol
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You can root 10B and tell supersu to maintain root and take all the OTAs and still keep root. I did that so that I'd have VoLTE and I could take an OTA in the future without issue if it was shown root would survive. Your choice I guess, but we know root survives all the way to 12B so why not go the stock route to ensure you are fully updated? Just my thoughts anyway.
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You can root 10B and tell supersu to maintain root and take all the OTAs and still keep root. I did that so that I'd have VoLTE and I could take an OTA in the future without issue if it was shown root would survive. Your choice I guess, but we know root survives all the way to 12B so why not go the stock route to ensure you are fully updated? Just my thoughts anyway.
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im running android version 5.0.2, stock is whats not "fully updated" lol
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im running android version 5.0.2, stock is whats not "fully updated" lol
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Yeah we all could be as well. The issue is your camera is jacked and you lose things like multi window, ir remote, and quick memo writing.
I tried 5.0.x for a few days but the negatives weren't worth it to me. I am fully updated at 12B as I can still use the G3 with the stock goodies that were added by LG and not cripple the device by putting AOSP on it. Don't get me wrong, I prefer the look of AOSP, but one of the major reasons I got this phone was for the camera and without the 5.0.x roms including LG camera app with them, it's a no go for me. Google camera app just doesn't do it and laser focus is gone so pics are crap in my opinion.
Instead I use g3 tweaks and Nova to make my phone look more like AOSP. I'll wait for the devs to get ahold of 5.0.x for the g3 so we can still keep the g3 goodies before I update any further.
So, I'd say 12B is as fully updated as there is at this point. Just my opinion though.
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Yeah we all could be as well. The issue is your camera is jacked and you lose things like multi window, ir remote, and quick memo writing.
I tried 5.0.x for a few days but the negatives weren't worth it to me. I am fully updated at 12B as I can still use the G3 with the stock goodies that were added by LG and not cripple the device by putting AOSP on it. Don't get me wrong, I prefer the look of AOSP, but one of the major reasons I got this phone was for the camera and without the 5.0.x roms including LG camera app with them, it's a no go for me. Google camera app just doesn't do it and laser focus is gone so pics are crap in my opinion.
Instead I use g3 tweaks and Nova to make my phone look more like AOSP. I'll wait for the devs to get ahold of 5.0.x for the g3 so we can still keep the g3 goodies before I update any further.
So, I'd say 12B is as fully updated as there is at this point. Just my opinion though.
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the camera doesnt stand up to stock, no doubt, but thats the only thing i wish could be better. the rest of that stuff i dont use.
it all depends on what you want/use/need.
i prefer custom roms the majority of the time.
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the camera doesnt stand up to stock, no doubt, but thats the only thing i wish could be better. the rest of that stuff i dont use.
it all depends on what you want/use/need.
i prefer custom roms the majority of the time.
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You're right for sure. It's all personal preference. I figure if the only thing that looks different from stock is the settings menu and not having the quick settings tiles, I'm close enough that I'm not bothered by all the LG colors and added stuff.
I'm waiting for the camera app to get ported then I'm all in on a custom 5.0.x rom. That may be a while, but I can wait.
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Yeah we all could be as well. The issue is your camera is jacked and you lose things like multi window, ir remote, and quick memo writing.
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For anyone reading this, I just wanted to let them know that there is a ported version of Quick Remote that works under AOSP / CM including Lollipop. I think it's in the non-variant G3 sections.
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Thank you for this thread. Honestly this should be Pinned, I am an extremely saavy/experienced Android user and XDA forum member, and I could not believe how long it took me to find this sort of info for such a popular phone.
This is my first LG phone, and I'm having to learn all the LG and Gseries specific "stuff". The info above was invaluable. :good:
Hey guys, so the last phone I rooted and had a bootstrap on with custom roms was the Motorola Droid x2. We couldn't even get into the kernel. So with that being said I've acquired super user on my g3 months ago to freeze apps. But now I don't depend on my phone like I did then for work. So I want to do the whole thing and I'm unsure what choices to make. I'm not looking for a guide for installing stuff (at least not yet ) just trying to get suggestions and hopefully good recommendations.
So here's the main point for the post
TLDR!!!!!
Current android version 5.0.1
kernels- unlock it? Change it? Not sure what all you can actually do with that.
Bootstrap- clock work mod? Or any other one can't think of names but need something to load roms
Rom for battery and power- cyanogenmod is what I use to run on the x2 not sure if it's still one of the best?
Anything else I missed that I should get and check out?
Thanks in advance
Put TWRP custom recovery on your phone with the autorec TWRP app by @bender_007, in the General section of the non-variant specific G3 sections. Once you give the app superuser permissions it looks like it's hung up but give it 10-30 seconds because it's backing up your current recovery. Then click the button to install TWRP. Download the latest TWRP v2.8.7.0 from its thread also somewhere in the G3 sections, and flash it from your current TWRP.
I use @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0 ROM, which is based on the latest official LG ROM, build 35B, based on Android 5.1.1. Very happy with it, very smooth and great on battery.
I haven't heard the term bootstrap with regards to custom recoveries. I'd suggest just calling them custom recoveries.
Thanks for your input it's been a while after I read it I was like yep it's custom recoveries lol thank you again
Tweek900 said:
Thanks for your input it's been a while after I read it I was like yep it's custom recoveries lol thank you again
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You're welcome! Glad to help!
So I tried to come to this site from my computer and it wouldn't load properly. I'm not sure if it's a me probably or the site please let me know thanks
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So I tried to come to this site from my computer and it wouldn't load properly. I'm not sure if it's a me probably or the site please let me know thanks
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its you. i used a pc to access the site most of today and haven't had an issue.
Alright thanks I'll look into my pc then. Also I haven't decided if I want to flash a custom kernel I don't know what all it can change any advice?
For the hell of it I wanna take my vs985 back to the first firmware that came on it from the beginning or the oldest possible firmware preferably the time it was released. I'm just confused cuz I'm seeing 10b KDZ's saying jellybean 4.2.2 (and tot) but, the ones I've downloaded from several different places turn out to be a tot file that is actually kitkat 4.4.2 which is not what I quite expected. I figured someone made a mistake naming the file but several different ones now? What am I missing? I just wanna try the oldest stuff I missed out on for a lil while and custom roms would work too but kk is the lowest I find so is there anything even lower I cant find a clear answer lol.
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10b is the original stock firmware.
dadrumgod said:
For the hell of it I wanna take my vs985 back to the first firmware that came on it from the beginning or the oldest possible firmware preferably the time it was released. I'm just confused cuz I'm seeing 10b KDZ's saying jellybean 4.2.2 (and tot) but, the ones I've downloaded from several different places turn out to be a tot file that is actually kitkat 4.4.2 which is not what I quite expected. I figured someone made a mistake naming the file but several different ones now? What am I missing? I just wanna try the oldest stuff I missed out on for a lil while and custom roms would work too but kk is the lowest I find so is there anything even lower I cant find a clear answer lol.
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Hi!
There wasn't any Jellybean available for this phone. For example, 10B for my LG G Pad 8.3 tablet was Jellybean. You can find the correct 10B KDZ and TOT in @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section. If the filename has VS985 in it, it's likely the correct one.
Also please in the future post questions in the Q&A section. I'll ask a mod to move this thread there. Thanks!
That's exactly what I thought, I didn't think this phone was even this old but I have the files right here saying vs985 and 4.2.2 jellybean lol but it has to be a mistake. I appreciate your reply sorry about that after these years I still get lost and mixed up here sometimes , and this can be deleted now I got the right answer , thanks again
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roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Hi!
There wasn't any Jellybean available for this phone. For example, 10B for my LG G Pad 8.3 tablet was Jellybean. You can find the correct 10B KDZ and TOT in @annoyingduck 's stickied return to stock thread in the General section. If the filename has VS985 in it, it's likely the correct one.
Also please in the future post questions in the Q&A section. I'll ask a mod to move this thread there. Thanks!
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I'm just now realizing I'm not seeing where to delete a post, does it take a mod to do that? Just curious
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dadrumgod said:
That's exactly what I thought, I didn't think this phone was even this old but I have the files right here saying vs985 and 4.2.2 jellybean lol but it has to be a mistake. I appreciate your reply sorry about that after these years I still get lost and mixed up here sometimes , and this can be deleted now I got the right answer , thanks again
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Hopefully it's the right file. You're welcome, no problem!
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I'm just now realizing I'm not seeing where to delete a post, does it take a mod to do that? Just curious
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You have to ask a mod to delete it. I already asked them to move it to Q&A - no reason to delete the thread.
dadrumgod said:
For the hell of it I wanna take my vs985 back to the first firmware that came on it from the beginning or the oldest possible firmware preferably the time it was released. I'm just confused cuz I'm seeing 10b KDZ's saying jellybean 4.2.2 (and tot) but, the ones I've downloaded from several different places turn out to be a tot file that is actually kitkat 4.4.2 which is not what I quite expected. I figured someone made a mistake naming the file but several different ones now? What am I missing? I just wanna try the oldest stuff I missed out on for a lil while and custom roms would work too but kk is the lowest I find so is there anything even lower I cant find a clear answer lol.
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Mine is on VS98510B Android Version 4.4.2, came like that, but about to change that though as soon as I read up enough and figure out which is best way to go about custom rom install, (currently stock 10B rooted/bumped, w/twrp 3.0/ few mods)
Mike
11fan said:
Mine is on VS98510B Android Version 4.4.2, came like that, but about to change that though as soon as I read up enough and figure out which is best way to go about custom rom install, (currently stock 10B rooted/bumped, w/twrp 3.0/ few mods)
Mike
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Well I can tell how just about every Rom and mod runs on this phone and anything that you need to know I'm sure I've come across the issue at some point. I've tried everything I could find from your stock version to the latest mm stock and custom roms. A good hint I can give you is make sure you flash the right bootstack before jumping between android versions or you could wind up with a Qualcomm 9008 super brick where the real fun begins lol But it's very easy with this phone and it still blows my G4 outta the water so bad it's pathetic. I had 2 G4's and traded one fire this G3
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dadrumgod said:
For the hell of it I wanna take my vs985 back to the first firmware that came on it from the beginning or the oldest possible firmware preferably the time it was released. I'm just confused cuz I'm seeing 10b KDZ's saying jellybean 4.2.2 (and tot) but, the ones I've downloaded from several different places turn out to be a tot file that is actually kitkat 4.4.2 which is not what I quite expected. I figured someone made a mistake naming the file but several different ones now? What am I missing? I just wanna try the oldest stuff I missed out on for a lil while and custom roms would work too but kk is the lowest I find so is there anything even lower I cant find a clear answer lol.
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I just ran across that same file looking through my G3 files, I'm not sure which thread I got links from, but most likely came from afh in someones collection of G3 files. name of the file is "8._ VS98510B_01.KDZ-4.2.2-Jellybean-MD5_hash_inside-(not_official" and it's 1.47 GB in size, I expect it was just named incorrectly
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I just ran across that same file looking through my G3 files, I'm not sure which thread I got links from, but most likely came from afh in someones collection of G3 files. name of the file is "8._ VS98510B_01.KDZ-4.2.2-Jellybean-MD5_hash_inside-(not_official" and it's 1.47 GB in size, I expect it was just named incorrectly
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DOH ME! I'm the culprit. Sorry about that. As soon as I saw the file name you put I knew it was mine. I'll fix that. LOL! I can't believe I did that, and of course I'm sure the reason I did that was my confusion between my tablet 10B and this phone's 10B. SIGH! Thanks for posting that and I'll correct that now!
Thanks @dadrumgod too for starting this thread which lead to me knowing that I had named the files wrongly.
Lol, its all good, figured it was just a mistake! However I did just d/l the 10B.kdz from autoprime via chainfire and it was 1.51 GB in size, slightly different, any concern for that? Thanks for all your help! Past present and future lol
Mike
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11fan said:
Lol, its all good, figured it was just a mistake! However I did just d/l the 10B.kdz from autoprime via chainfire and it was 1.51 GB in size, slightly different, any concern for that? Thanks for all your help! Past present and future lol
Mike
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The KDZs and TOTs in my Android File Host section are in 7-Zip archives that you have to extract to use (and are therefore compressed).
I do that since it seems so few people check MD5 hashes, plus TOTs aren't already compressed like KDZs are, so you reasonably know that when you extract an archive that the file inside it is correct and intact.
In other words, did you compare sizes with the 7-Zip archive you downloaded or the KDZ you extracted from it?
In the end I believe the TOT and KDZ-flashing software checks the file to make sure it's both okay and is for the device you have connected, anyway.
You're welcome!
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DOH ME! I'm the culprit. Sorry about that. As soon as I saw the file name you put I knew it was mine. I'll fix that. LOL! I can't believe I did that, and of course I'm sure the reason I did that was my confusion between my tablet 10B and this phone's 10B. SIGH! Thanks for posting that and I'll correct that now!
Thanks @dadrumgod too for starting this thread which lead to me knowing that I had named the files wrongly.
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Yea I was kinda curious about that one, but at least ya know huh, I've made quite a few Oops's myself lol.. But I'm still shocked at how much better the older roms are in alot of ways and LG did pretty good with kk apparently. But I have a gpad 10.1 vk700 and was surprised the lil difference between kk and LP and changed back and forth a good bit quite a few times mixing up what I was running... I should warranty that thing and play with it again, but no recovery so too limited.. Wah Wah Wah lol
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dadrumgod said:
Yea I was kinda curious about that one, but at least ya know huh, I've made quite a few Oops's myself lol.. But I'm still shocked at how much better the older roms are in alot of ways and LG did pretty good with kk apparently. But I have a gpad 10.1 vk700 and was surprised the lil difference between kk and LP and changed back and forth a good bit quite a few times mixing up what I was running... I should warranty that thing and play with it again, but no recovery so too limited.. Wah Wah Wah lol
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Hehe. I'm lucky there was at least an exploit and TWRP for the G Pad 8.3 VK810 variant, and that some developers made an updated TWRP for it later.
I hope when/if it comes time for me to get a new tablet that I can find one that's powerful enough yet have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
I really hope something changes so that with some future Android version that there's another way of handling the optimization of apps so that every time you take an OTA or factory reset you don't have to wait an extra 10-20 minutes. Call me paranoid, but also what if you factory reset and then need to use the phone in an emergency? That long a wait is unacceptable.
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Hehe. I'm lucky there was at least an exploit and TWRP for the G Pad 8.3 VK810 variant, and that some developers made an updated TWRP for it later.
I hope when/if it comes time for me to get a new tablet that I can find one that's powerful enough yet have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
I really hope something changes so that with some future Android version that there's another way of handling the optimization of apps so that every time you take an OTA or factory reset you don't have to wait an extra 10-20 minutes. Call me paranoid, but also what if you factory reset and then need to use the phone in an emergency? That long a wait is unacceptable.
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Oh there's even a bumped twrp for the gpad 10.1 v700, mine is the vk700 with LTE but it's the same tab. Funny part is I never use the mobile data and I'm stuck with the bill cuz I didn't know better at the time lol I could possibly bump a twrp for it myself but that's a lil beyond my expertise atm. I also wish I'd have known better when I got my g4 or I wouldn't have went through hell and be stuck with a hopelessly locked non developed device with only root and no real fun. I guess ya gotta start learning somewhere huh
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Oh there's even a bumped twrp for the gpad 10.1 v700, mine is the vk700 with LTE but it's the same tab. Funny part is I never use the mobile data and I'm stuck with the bill cuz I didn't know better at the time lol I could possibly bump a twrp for it myself but that's a lil beyond my expertise atm. I also wish I'd have known better when I got my g4 or I wouldn't have went through hell and be stuck with a hopelessly locked non developed device with only root and no real fun. I guess ya gotta start learning somewhere huh
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It drives me crazy all these variants of the different devices. That's one thing I definitely like about Nexus, but I've never owned one. I was hoping the HTC 10 would be universal too but it doesn't look to be that way since it says on their website that for Sprint and Verizon you need different hardware (without any further clarification of availability/etc when I looked last week - just said soon). One of the selling points they gave for buying the HTC 10 directly from them is if you want to change carriers, you can just change SIM cards, but then the note about Sprint and Verizon - sounds like a different variant.
I do use Mobile Data on my tablet all the time. Undecided if I'll keep the mobile data plan after the contract is up in December. I do like not running my phone battery down as much since I use my tablet whenever possible for music, GPS, XDA, Facebook etc.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
The KDZs and TOTs in my Android File Host section are in 7-Zip archives that you have to extract to use (and are therefore compressed).
I do that since it seems so few people check MD5 hashes, plus TOTs aren't already compressed like KDZs are, so you reasonably know that when you extract an archive that the file inside it is correct and intact.
In other words, did you compare sizes with the 7-Zip archive you downloaded or the KDZ you extracted from it?
In the end I believe the TOT and KDZ-flashing software checks the file to make sure it's both okay and is for the device you have connected, anyway.
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both compared are .KDZ, The proper named file I d/l from Team Codefire was already in .KDZ format when d/l. The "improper named" 10B .KDZ Im not sure where I d/l from nor do I remember if file was zipped or not. If it was zipped then I extracted .KDZ and deleted the zip because I can't find it in any of my G3 folders/files. So im not sure why the size difference :/ also i have a question about flashing 35B, I know this is not proper place but didnt want to start a whole new thread for 1 question. I want to update to LP and 33B FROM my 10B KK and I see these "notes" in threads everywhere but never a link to proper update procedure, This is what I keep seeing about not using flash method to go from LP to KK or you end up with no d/l mode or other bricks possibly. from the stock img thread by bwen diorD ---------> (((((((((((***Note, Do Not use the flash2 method to go from KK to L.
Partitions other than boot, system and modem need to be updated, otherwise, you will have no download mode, and other possible issues.
***A tutorial to install the Boot, Modem, and System, using @autoprimes "Flash2" method, can be found Here.
***Custom recovery "flashable zips" for boot and modem by @hsbadr can be found here.))))))))))So Im 10B rooted/bumped with TWRP 3.0..which route do I take from KK to LP?? Just more files to flash?? and which procedure???
Thanks in advance!
Mike
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also i have a question about flashing 35B, I know this is not proper place but didnt want to start a whole new thread for 1 question. I want to update to LP and 33B FROM my 10B KK and I see these "notes" in threads everywhere but never a link to proper update procedure, This is what I keep seeing about not using flash method to go from LP to KK or you end up with no d/l mode or other bricks possibly. from the stock img thread by bwen diorD ---------> (((((((((((***Note, Do Not use the flash2 method to go from KK to L.
Partitions other than boot, system and modem need to be updated, otherwise, you will have no download mode, and other possible issues.
***A tutorial to install the Boot, Modem, and System, using @autoprimes "Flash2" method, can be found Here.
***Custom recovery "flashable zips" for boot and modem by @hsbadr can be found here.))))))))))So Im 10B rooted/bumped with TWRP 3.0..which route do I take from KK to LP?? Just more files to flash?? and which procedure???
Thanks in advance!
Mike
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You can follow the directions in the OP of either @hsbadr 's JasmineROM 9.x, @HolyAngel 's SkyDragon 6.x or @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0, or what I say below for more detailed although technically optional information regarding the first two of those ROMs.
Flash either:
1. JasmineROM 9.0+9.1 and then the 35B bootstack after if you want almost completely stock 35B. Flashing the 35B bootstack after JasmineROM isn't mentioned in the JasmineROM OP and is actually optional, but encryptiona and Advanced/HD Calling won't work without it. If you choose not to flash the 35B bootstack after flashing JasmineROM, you should at least flash the 24B bootstack. SkyDragon 6.x is the exact same situation as JasmineROM 9.x.
You can use the debloat zip thread in my signature below on either of those two ROMs if you wish. I recommend flashing the debloat zip(s) before booting the ROM the first time. It'll make your first boot faster in addition to other things.
2. or flash the 35B bootstack first and then @xdabbeb 's excellent VS985 v2.0 ROM which I recommend. Even though I'm running 47A rooted debloated right now, his ROM is absolutely my favorite.
His ROM is very debloated, although there's some additional things I choose to remove via my debloat zips.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
You can follow the directions in the OP of either @hsbadr 's JasmineROM 9.x, @HolyAngel 's SkyDragon 6.x or @xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0, or what I say below for more detailed although technically optional information regarding the first two of those ROMs.
Flash either:
1. JasmineROM 9.0+9.1 and then the 35B bootstack after if you want almost completely stock 35B. Flashing the 35B bootstack after JasmineROM isn't mentioned in the JasmineROM OP and is actually optional, but encryptiona and Advanced/HD Calling won't work without it. If you choose not to flash the 35B bootstack after flashing JasmineROM, you should at least flash the 24B bootstack. SkyDragon 6.x is the exact same situation as JasmineROM 9.x.
You can use the debloat zip thread in my signature below on either of those two ROMs if you wish. I recommend flashing the debloat zip(s) before booting the ROM the first time. It'll make your first boot faster in addition to other things.
2. or flash the 35B bootstack first and then @xdabbeb 's excellent VS985 v2.0 ROM which I recommend. Even though I'm running 47A rooted debloated right now, his ROM is absolutely my favorite.
His ROM is very debloated, although there's some additional things I choose to remove via my debloat zips.
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exactly what i was looking for to the T! thank you very much! I was MAKING SURE the 35B bootstack would flash all necessary files/img's needed to move from 10B KK to 35B LP without making a paper weight out of my phone lol. so 35B bootstack then xdabbeb rom then debloat, script....would you recommend full wipe or? before any of the flashes , and I assume all this flash with TWRP.
THANKS!! That was A LOT of help! I just did not know FOR SURE OR NOT if anything special had to done with partitions jumping from KK to LP
Mike
11fan said:
exactly what i was looking for to the T! thank you very much! I was MAKING SURE the 35B bootstack would flash all necessary files/img's needed to move from 10B KK to 35B LP without making a paper weight out of my phone lol. so 35B bootstack then xdabbeb rom then debloat, script....would you recommend full wipe or? before any of the flashes , and I assume all this flash with TWRP.
THANKS!! That was A LOT of help! I just did not know FOR SURE OR NOT if anything special had to done with partitions jumping from KK to LP
Mike
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You're welcome! For such a large upgrade, from 10B to 35B, yes absolutely do a full wipe before flashing anything. I always do a full wipe, though. The built-in LG Backup does a bang up job for me for user apps, user data and limited system data - much faster than Titanium Backup.
You're welcome again!
I'm on 10B and everything was working no issues until lately my bluetooth dies when listening to music. I'm assuming it's the app updates for Pandora and Soundcloud. Anyway back to my question - What is the most stable, customizable, and fully built ROM/ OEM stock kdz for the G3 these days. I had cyanogen mod on my note2 about a year ago before the G3 an I was okay with it. I worry about loosing knock bc I can't use the rear unlock button when in the car cradle. I guess I'd like to be able to sideload/unroot for a few app like appradio unchained reloaded etc. My wife hates the stock camera so maybe an upgrade will help that issue. I stayed on 10B bc I didn't need the few extra options on newer versions, wanted to have as much customization as possible and google seems to be heading towards less like apple, and it worked great.
So I'm thinking about moving to a newer stock version, or cyanogenmod, and then a new phone if I'm not happy and too many features are lost - let me know your thoughts and any suggestions. I'm by no means well versed these days and a noob in my opinion, but have basic knowledge from when I spent some time rooting a half dozen phones, etc, esp when updating our note 2s last year to cyanogen. Other than flashing the stock images , adding TWRP, etc when we got these phones, I haven't spent much time learning on XDA and after a few hours I could use some opinions/directions to head, so please give me your thoughts on the latest these days for the G3.
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Anyway back to my question
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Please in the future post question threads in the Q&A section. I'll ask a moderator to move this thread.
What is the most stable, customizable, and fully built ROM/ OEM stock kdz for the G3 these days.
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As far as I know all LG stock ROMs for the VS985 are just as customizable as any other - at least when rooted. I don't theme except if you count using the Flat Style Bar Indicators Xposed module to fully customize what my status bar icons look like and what order they're in.
I'm more a function over form kind of guy.
That said, I do use Nova Launcher Prime and I know there's themes for it although I don't use it that way.
Since you're already rooted and have TWRP on, just use TWRP Manager from the Play Store to update to the latest version of TWRP before flashing a newer ROM.
If you don't know, rooting is harder after 10B and putting TWRP on is harder after 12B, so if you ever have to return to a known good state in order to re-root and put TWRP back on, I recommend the 10B TOT.
TOTs flash more partitions than KDZs and can fix problems that even flashing the 10B KDZ won't fix. I have first hand experience with that kind of situation. Before that I always chose KDZ over TOT but now I use TOT when there's a choice.
It wouldn't hurt to use the built in LG Backup to back up your apps and data, save it to your MicroSD card and then flash the 10B TOT to start fresh. Re-root with the Stump app in brute force mode, then use TWRP Manager from the Play Store to flash TWRP.
@xdabbeb 's VS985 v2.0.0 ROM based on 35B 5.1.1 is overall my favorite rom.
I have, however, been using his stock 47A Marshmallow firmware for several months now. It's not customized like his v2.0.0 ROM. It's as fully stock 47A while still being rooted and able to use TWRP.
Whatever ROM you use, be sure to flash the appropriate Bootstack from his v2.0.0 thread. 12B for KitKat, 24B for Lollipop 5.0.x and 35B for Lollipop 5.1.x and Marshmallow 6.0.
If you happen to fiddle with JasmineROM 9.x or SkyDragon 6.x, flash the 24B or 35B bootstack after flashing the ROM. If you flash the 35B bootstack before flashing the ROM you'll brick your phone until you recover it.
If you just get used to always flashing the bootstack after the ROM then you won't go wrong. You can always flash it before and after flashing the ROM if you're not sure.
I worry about loosing knock bc I can't use the rear unlock button when in the car cradle.
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All stock LG VS985 ROMs come with knock on and knock off already enabled.
I guess I'd like to be able to sideload/unroot for a few app like appradio unchained reloaded etc. My wife hates the stock camera so maybe an upgrade will help that issue.
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There are Xposed modules to hide root for whatever apps you specify. It doesn't work for everything, and I don't do so myself.
No camera app is going to work overall better than the stock one - no other camera app can make use of the laser focus.
For what it's worth, @xdabbeb makes an app called X-Cam that lets you tweak the stock camera app some. I don't use it so came advise specifics.
Good luck!