Hi guys.
First of all, I have searched the forum, and also used google, but most of info is not fresh and is not really complete. So please excuse me in advance if I"m asking a question that is partially asked before.
And Please before you reply, I ask you even, I beg you please only reply if you have a constructive informative things to say. Please dont come with sarcasm etc... This is a very serious thing for me.
My project :
Have a android phone for only 1 APP and with Only VPN / TOR connection. So Basicly imagine a android phone that has only 1 app. When that app is in use, communicating it comunicates true vpn maybe TOR.
This phone will not be used for anything alse. Only 1 APP. The APP is a VOIP app, so it will make calls true a external server. The internet will be on the simcard, simcard will be used wich has no Telephony services but only internet services on it. So it must be really basic, not to cheap not to expensive. No other apps will be used. Actually if possible all apps will be removed. and will be locked down, so you can only start, unlock, start app call / recieve calls. turn of.
Now, the Questions
1. What is the most Secure Android ROM, that would work on most / many android phones.
1.1. I want to LOCK the rom / android completely after install and setup settings, sothat nobody can install anything anymore.
1.2. The rom must be light, sothat it's fast and also not to heavy on the battery.
1.3. Posibilities to add extra options like self distruct if 3 times wrong unlock code is entered, like Iphone.
2. What phone would you recommend to do this job, Please keep in mind, it should be not to small, sothat it's nice to use. sits nice in the hand of a grownup person.
Nobody ?
So... No reply at all ))
I did a little research, found out i can strip down the firmware, just build it / rebuild it from source or just make some edition, I'd still like to hear / read some advice about wich phone model to take.
If you are gonna build from source then your best option is a nexus. Other wise you will end up having issues with device trees and kernel source.
As for locking it down well that's another matter. As long as they could get access to the device there is more way to stop them completely.
zelendel said:
If you are gonna build from source then your best option is a nexus. Other wise you will end up having issues with device trees and kernel source.
As for locking it down well that's another matter. As long as they could get access to the device there is more way to stop them completely.
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Thanks for your reply / info.
for the lockdown, it's more like anti kids lockdown, sothat users cannot install just what ever they want. But I think it will be more advanced than that.
I'm planing to make a clean, light, firmwar that will :
1. have only 2 ways of comunicated. 1. Secure VOIP 2. secure chat system like tox or something.
2. will comunicate only true VPN or TOR
3. Will be locked down after initial setup. meanin will not be possible to install anything, just set options like wifi etc... no apstores.
4. Will have self distruct software, that counts how many times wron pin / screen unlock is done, if more then 2-3 will completely wipe itself to empty device.
5. by default camera, gps, proximity, will be absent, so will be removed in ROM, so will be really not functional.
sofar
tomorrow will search for a nexus.
thanks for your advice again.
zelendel said:
If you are gonna build from source then your best option is a nexus. Other wise you will end up having issues with device trees and kernel source.
As for locking it down well that's another matter. As long as they could get access to the device there is more way to stop them completely.
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Nexus, like any nexus ? cause there are many, lg nexus, samsung nexus, etc...
turalo said:
Nexus, like any nexus ? cause there are many, lg nexus, samsung nexus, etc...
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Well that depends on where you want to start. You can get an older nexus where all the code is pretty much there for stuff and learn that way. Or get a newer one where things are still being changed around. Let me give you one warning. With ever yearly android release you pretty much have to rebate everything you did and start from square one.
zelendel said:
Well that depends on where you want to start. You can get an older nexus where all the code is pretty much there for stuff and learn that way. Or get a newer one where things are still being changed around. Let me give you one warning. With ever yearly android release you pretty much have to rebate everything you did and start from square one.
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Thanks for all advise, info.
I have done first tests, went with basic samsungs. s4 mini, have installed edited cyanogen, all tests went well, now testing self distruct mechanism.
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Hi everybody. First of all I did not know where to put this thread so I decided to stick it in General, I hope no one minds.
Well I just got my Xperia X10 mini pro yesterday, it came from Spain as I bought it of ebay and locked to Vodafone Spain.
As a long Windows Mobile user, I am used to have to flash a ROM in my native language (PT or SK) as soon as I get the phone, because it's not like in the old days with the Nokias where you would just go to the definitions and change the language to whatever you wanted.
But apparently android is like that too. When I turned on the phone for the first time, I got a lot of language options to choose from. I selected Portuguese and it the phone had all the options in that language. That is why I wanted to ask besides de branding it, what are the advantages of flashing a ROM from a different country?
And now for the hard questions.
I ran the phone without a SIM card in it, but I want to ask. Every time I turn on the phone I get the language options to choose, no matter how many times I choose Portuguese, it just fails to remember it. Is that normal (remember I am running the phone without a SIM card in it, just for testing)?
Is there a way to hard reset the phone? (this expression I got from WM, I hope it's the same for the Android) And if yes, how? (always good to know)
This is an observation.
The phone could not see my WIFI connection, because it was on channel 13, I had to change it to 9 to be sure he would see it and connect to it. After that everything worked . (I hope new radios are on the way)
Overall I did not have much time to test the phone, but I did some web surfing, I went on youtube and it was not bad, considering the screen size (it is even smaller than HTCs Diamond I), and the keyboard made the experience much better.
The phone feels so light, it almost looks like a toy. If you don't know anything about it, you can easily think it's one of those low cost messaging phones, with no actual OS (it's a metaphor, as I do not consider some firmwares that come on phones actual OS).
But I hope it's one of those gadgets that everyone can use
Thanks for bearing with me, and please if you know answer, if not you can always comment, hehe
Johev said:
But apparently android is like that too. When I turned on the phone for the first time, I got a lot of language options to choose from. I selected Portuguese and it the phone had all the options in that language. That is why I wanted to ask besides de branding it, what are the advantages of flashing a ROM from a different country?
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No advantage as far as I know, may be you will get a different set of bloatware depending on the region. but at the end, they all are crap and you will end up uninstalling (Or at least wanting to..) all of them.
Johev said:
I ran the phone without a SIM card in it, but I want to ask. Every time I turn on the phone I get the language options to choose, no matter how many times I choose Portuguese, it just fails to remember it. Is that normal (remember I am running the phone without a SIM card in it, just for testing)?
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I think it asks you just once for the language, as it stores the language preference in an XML file. try using it with a sim and see if it asks you again..
Johev said:
Is there a way to hard reset the phone? (this expression I got from WM, I hope it's the same for the Android) And if yes, how? (always good to know)
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you can factory reset the phone, I'm not aware of any method that allows you to hard reset your phone. Although you can reflash it with SEUS, that will reset your phone to orginal form.
Johev said:
The phone feels so light, it almost looks like a toy. If you don't know anything about it, you can easily think it's one of those low cost messaging phones, with no actual OS (it's a metaphor, as I do not consider some firmwares that come on phones actual OS).
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I beg to differ, Android is built on linux kernel, and you can use plenty of linux command on it, so I consider it as an actual operating system..
Besides, whats an actual OS?
The definition of an Os is - An operating system (OS) is an interface between hardware and user, which is responsible for the management and coordination of activities and the sharing of the resources of a device, that acts as a host for applications run on the machine.
According to that definition, android (or other mobile/handheld OS) falls well within actual OSes
li_boud said:
I beg to differ, Android is built on linux kernel, and you can use plenty of linux command on it, so I consider it as an actual operating system..
Besides, whats an actual OS?
The definition of an Os is - An operating system (OS) is an interface between hardware and user, which is responsible for the management and coordination of activities and the sharing of the resources of a device, that acts as a host for applications run on the machine.
According to that definition, android (or other mobile/handheld OS) falls well within actual OSes
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I think you misread or misunderstood what I have said. I agree with you about Android. That is why I have bought it, even though it's for my wife
I said, or at least the message that I wanted to spread was that if you do not know anything about the phone, you can easily and mistakenly confuse it with some low end keyboard phones (and those ones do not have an actual OS), that are marketed like messaging phones and do not measure up to this one.
I hope now I am a bit clearer.
Johev said:
I think you misread or misunderstood what I have said. I agree with you about Android. That is why I have bought it, even though it's for my wife
I said, or at least the message that I wanted to spread was that if you do not know anything about the phone, you can easily and mistakenly confuse it with some low end keyboard phones (and those ones do not have an actual OS), that are marketed like messaging phones and do not measure up to this one.
I hope now I am a bit clearer.
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Haha. Technically, all phones have an operating system, otherwise they're just a pretty, shiny paperweight. I think you mean smartphone
Yeah, I get that a lot, but I'm still proud of my phone!
Johev said:
I think you misread or misunderstood what I have said. I agree with you about Android. That is why I have bought it, even though it's for my wife
I said, or at least the message that I wanted to spread was that if you do not know anything about the phone, you can easily and mistakenly confuse it with some low end keyboard phones (and those ones do not have an actual OS), that are marketed like messaging phones and do not measure up to this one.
I hope now I am a bit clearer.
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My mistake, yeah I misread your statement.. Sorry about that.
Yes you can easily mistake it as a toy , almost like the samsung corby series ( google if you dont know the mobile ) , but anything that runs Android quite doesn't feel like a toy because it Linux , its powerful , smart and the best OS around..atleast for mobile
siddharthsai said:
Yes you can easily mistake it as a toy
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When I bought X10 mini pro, I showed it to my friend, who happen to be a Nokia X6 user (8 GB) and a big huge Symbian fan. At the first sight, he wasn't impressed, said I wasted the money since I could have bought a Nokia X6 for lesser price. He said its just another fancy toy from SE, just like Xperia pureness (X5).
The next day, I rooted the phone, removed all the bloatware, installed useful apps and widgets, and last but not the least, installed ADW launcher. Customized it, and then showed him again, and he was blown away!!
All of a sudden Symbian looks like an OS from last century to him. Now he wants an Android phone.
li_boud said:
When I bought X10 mini pro, I showed it to my friend, who happen to be a Nokia X6 user (8 GB) and a big huge Symbian fan. At the first sight, he wasn't impressed, said I wasted the money since I could have bought a Nokia X6 for lesser price. He said its just another fancy toy from SE, just like Xperia pureness (X5).
The next day, I rooted the phone, removed all the bloatware, installed useful apps and widgets, and last but not the least, installed ADW launcher. Customized it, and then showed him again, and he was blown away!!
All of a sudden Symbian looks like an OS from last century to him. Now he wants an Android phone.
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That is exactly what I want to do to this one. I still need to get some reading first, as I am not sure how to remove all the stuff that Vodafone puts in it.
I lack the knowledge of Android, so I am not sure if you go to android market and download the things for free, or if you get it here and just install it on the phone (I sure hope that Android uses some kind of a cab file, that will let me easily install things on it).
So far, from my reading I figured I need to change the SMS application and the answering call one (as I read many people were complaining about those), and I need to get the task killing application so that I can save some battery life.
I was not able to find an explorer on the phone, so I have no access to my SD card (which was strange for me, as WM has it easy).
For rooting I will probably use the one click root (I hope it works for this phone).
If you could point me to the right directions, with the names and a place I can get the 101 applications from, I would be grateful, as my wife needs an END product, and not something like:
"Hunny here is your nice phone, have fun rooting it and customizing it to your needs."
Thanks a lot
PS: I have been looking for some examples of what I wanted the phone to look like, and feel like and I have found this on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpEbYiTiFdw&feature=related
I like how it looks and feels, and the only thing I would probably not want there is the last left widget with the stock market. Other than that I think it's almost perfect for such a small device.
Let me know what you think
It may be a stupid question but a bit annoying to me.
There may be a frequent case which you want to take pictures while you have chats with your friends. However, I just discovered that Galaxy SII won't be able to do this. In certain extend, it is a limitation in terms of multi-tasking.
Is there any ROM or other ways to let them work at the same time ?
I have the same problem and it makes me very sad ...
I use the Head Set and would like to take some pictures and send them via E-Mail while I use the phone.
Any hint would be nice! Thanks in advance!!
I too have this issue/question
It's blocked in the s/w. Just like not being able to use the camera with the battery below 15%, The latter was changed in a recent update to only not being able to use the flash below 15%. In other words, it's not a flaw, it's a "feature."
BarryH_GEG said:
It's blocked in the s/w. Just like not being able to use the camera with the battery below 15%, The latter was changed in a recent update to only not being able to use the flash below 15%. In other words, it's not a flaw, it's a "feature."
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I figured as much. there is no reason we shouldnt be able to talk and snap a pic. i drive a taxi and am on the phone most of the time with other drivers and have to hang up if i see something i wanna take a picture of. does anybody know if there might be a workaround? Im fairly new to android, was pretty handy with winmo registry stuff, dont know how to tweak android yet
euphoria47 said:
I figured as much. there is no reason we shouldnt be able to talk and snap a pic. i drive a taxi and am on the phone most of the time with other drivers and have to hang up if i see something i wanna take a picture of. does anybody know if there might be a workaround? Im fairly new to android, was pretty handy with winmo registry stuff, dont know how to tweak android yet
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I'm guessing it's blocked because the phone still supports video calling over 3G on networks capable of it. One of the devs might be able to change it in a cooked ROM. Quite a few undid the 15% camera thing.
BarryH_GEG said:
I'm guessing it's blocked because the phone still supports video calling over 3G on networks capable of it. One of the devs might be able to change it in a cooked ROM. Quite a few undid the 15% camera thing.
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Yup it was me who found the way to disable the battery checks on apps, and disable the pausing of music when opening camera...
Let's test this...
OK, looks like something worth trying
I have got this working now and is in VRTweaks for VillainROM 2.4.2 as of now.
pulser ur just awsome....
but am using cognition......how can i use ur VR tweaks....?/?
Hi. I've been struggeling with the s2 ever since I got it, almost all apps FC, Bluetooth randomly turns off as does my phone, GPS never knows where I am, I get adds in my notification bar, my Widgets don't work, time is almost always wrong and my speed test never gets above 1mb down. These problems occur out of the box on 2 different phones and with S8.
I see people enjoying their android phones but I'm confused how. Do I need to be a pro hacker to even make this device work the way it should? What can I do to fix this? I'm so frustrated I'm ready to not have a phone just so I can destroy this on with my hands. I paid 199 for this phone, don't even feel it's with $10, maybe it is but android sure isn't.
same problems on 2 different phones? I'm betting its user error... maybe you can install s8 but not restore any old data... start fresh... have you tried that? are you using titanium backup?
DKS1282 said:
Hi. I've been struggeling with the s2 ever since I got it, almost all apps FC, Bluetooth randomly turns off as does my phone, GPS never knows where I am, I get adds in my notification bar, my Widgets don't work, time is almost always wrong and my speed test never gets above 1mb down. These problems occur out of the box on 2 different phones and with S8.
I see people enjoying their android phones but I'm confused how. Do I need to be a pro hacker to even make this device work the way it should? What can I do to fix this? I'm so frustrated I'm ready to not have a phone just so I can destroy this on with my hands. I paid 199 for this phone, don't even feel it's with $10, maybe it is but android sure isn't.
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Go somewhere with this bull......
Why do you trolls even come here? Honestly do you guys get paid for this or you have nothing else to do?
Seriously???
I would love to make money like this as well!
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Airpush detector from the market will show you which app(s) are placing ads in your notification bar.
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DKS1282 said:
Hi. I've been struggeling with the s2 ever since I got it, almost all apps FC, Bluetooth randomly turns off as does my phone, GPS never knows where I am, I get adds in my notification bar, my Widgets don't work, time is almost always wrong and my speed test never gets above 1mb down. These problems occur out of the box on 2 different phones and with S8.
I see people enjoying their android phones but I'm confused how. Do I need to be a pro hacker to even make this device work the way it should? What can I do to fix this? I'm so frustrated I'm ready to not have a phone just so I can destroy this on with my hands. I paid 199 for this phone, don't even feel it's with $10, maybe it is but android sure isn't.
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Maybe you should try not installing malware from the Market?
I've never had any of the problems you claim, but ad spam in the notification bar sounds like a classic example of malware to me.
DKS1282 said:
Hi. I've been struggeling with the s2 ever since I got it, almost all apps FC, Bluetooth randomly turns off as does my phone, GPS never knows where I am, I get adds in my notification bar, my Widgets don't work, time is almost always wrong and my speed test never gets above 1mb down. These problems occur out of the box on 2 different phones and with S8.
I see people enjoying their android phones but I'm confused how. Do I need to be a pro hacker to even make this device work the way it should? What can I do to fix this? I'm so frustrated I'm ready to not have a phone just so I can destroy this on with my hands. I paid 199 for this phone, don't even feel it's with $10, maybe it is but android sure isn't.
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go get an iphone or winmo if android isn't worth your time.
If you have Ads in your notification bar, you have something installed that's causing this. This is not the fault of android or your phone. You installed something which causes ads to appear and might even be causing all your other issues. Wipe it out, DONT install anything and test it out. Make sure it works the way it should without touching it.
Dont blame the phone or the Android OS for something that you did. As for the slow download speeds, after you wipe it out, run the speakeasy speedtest through your browser not the speedtest app. That app is not 100% accurate. If the speed is still slow, call AT&T because it might be an issue with the network in your area.
joewoo said:
same problems on 2 different phones? I'm betting its user error... maybe you can install s8 but not restore any old data... start fresh... have you tried that? are you using titanium backup?
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If he's restoring sys data then that's why you're getting fc's. Restore app. Without data.
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craigbailey1986 said:
Go somewhere with this bull......
Why do you trolls even come here? Honestly do you guys get paid for this or you have nothing else to do?
Seriously???
I would love to make money like this as well!
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I didn't make any money I lost money. All I want is to enjoy my phone. You sir are a jerk andp i hope you die in a fire. People like you are unneeded in this world.
nyydynasty said:
go get an iphone or winmo if android isn't worth your time.
If you have Ads in your notification bar, you have something installed that's causing this. This is not the fault of android or your phone. You installed something which causes ads to appear and might even be causing all your other issues. Wipe it out, DONT install anything and test it out. Make sure it works the way it should without touching it.
Dont blame the phone or the Android OS for something that you did. As for the slow download speeds, after you wipe it out, run the speakeasy speedtest through your browser not the speedtest app. That app is not 100% accurate. If the speed is still slow, call AT&T because it might be an issue with the network in your area.
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Out of the box means nothing installed (new). Adds didn't start till I downloaded a couple apps. Sad the app store allows maleware
So since the phones don't work out of the box for me who should I blame? Bluetooth obivously shuts off randomly because I clicked the button wrong when turning it on right?
DKS1282 said:
I didn't make any money I lost money. All I want is to enjoy my phone. You sir are a jerk andp i hope you die in a fire. People like you are unneeded in this world.
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ROFL!! Although I agree with you, the post you are referring to was unnecessary.
I actually just switched from iOS to android myself, and considering I used to develop on iOS it was a pretty intense switch... I struggled mainly with the battery life of my phone. Notifications also caused a bit of a headache due to just how different they are.
Moral of the story, I stuck with it and actually like android more now. Given it's not as idiot proof as iOS was, but the things you can do in android (in terms of being able to do anything you want with your data and not having itunes) make it worth it.
Try flashing and rooting your phone, then remove all the apps you don't use. That fixed most of my battery problems for me, and the unnamed rom fixed the rest.
Artimus009 said:
Send me your phone and ill see what's up ;-)
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Send me your working one and ill send my broken one.
DKS1282 said:
I didn't make any money I lost money. All I want is to enjoy my phone. You sir are a jerk andp i hope you die in a fire. People like you are unneeded in this world.
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DK - Standard troubleshooting steps... Use the phone STOCK without ROOT and without any new apps for a few hours (at the very least)...
IF the phone still gives you these errors STOCK you can complain to AT&T about your issues because it is clearly the phone (HARDWARE) as ROOT cause of these issue.
HOWEVER...
If you're experiencing these issues either:
After restoring from previous backup
ROOTing the phone
Downloading apps from outside of Android Market
Then this is clearly a software issue.
I've been using my SGS2 for over 30 days STOCK non rooting and I've run into ZERO issues.
Please report BACK after you take the SGS2 to STOCK with no 3rd party apps installed...
DKS1282 said:
Hi. I've been struggeling with the s2 ever since I got it, almost all apps FC, Bluetooth randomly turns off as does my phone, GPS never knows where I am, I get adds in my notification bar, my Widgets don't work, time is almost always wrong and my speed test never gets above 1mb down. These problems occur out of the box on 2 different phones and with S8.
I see people enjoying their android phones but I'm confused how. Do I need to be a pro hacker to even make this device work the way it should? What can I do to fix this? I'm so frustrated I'm ready to not have a phone just so I can destroy this on with my hands. I paid 199 for this phone, don't even feel it's with $10, maybe it is but android sure isn't.
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Factory reset and go back to stock, if you are still having issues then return it for a new device. I have not had a single force close, wifi issue, bluetooth droppage, nor widge malfuntion. If you are installing other roms it sounds like you are not following instructions. you could be also installing applications/widgets that have not been updated in awhile to support SGSII? Feel sorry for you having so many issues, but take it back for another and complain. Maybe they will upgrade you to a skyrocket or something else if that will make you happy?
No complaints on my SGS II other than it can't cook me dinner or replace my nagging spouse.
Why not list the apps you installed, or as other suggested bring it back to bone stock and do a factory reset.
Quick heads up here guys.. Everyone needs to straighten up and fly right.
OP - this post comes off trolling, but I believe you may have a problem, so I am leaving it for now. But you won't get much help without really explaining your problems...
others -if you think a post is a troll/spam, DO NOT REPLY. Flag it for review, and let me/others take care of it, that is why we are here. If something is surely spam, posting in the thread does not help..
This has gotta be a joke right? Do you actually think Samsung would release a phone that didn't work as you describe to the market? No...
Sorry i didnt burn yet......
DKS1282 said:
I didn't make any money I lost money. All I want is to enjoy my phone. You sir are a jerk andp i hope you die in a fire. People like you are unneeded in this world.
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Wow i should die in a fire..... But hey i dont expect much from the likes of you.... And check my post, all I do is go from forum to forum helping people with legitimized problems...
ALL your post are nothing but complaints and telling devs how their instruction were dumb since you couldnt understand them,lol.... O and lets not forget the one post about how you are about to go back to your Iphone. Sorry but a troll is a troll!
So i will take what you said and do what I do best.... Pray for you
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Wow i should die in a fire..... But hey i dont expect much from the likes of you.... And check my post, all I do is go from forum to forum helping people with legitimized problems...
ALL your post are nothing but complaints and telling devs how their instruction were dumb since you couldnt understand them,lol.... O and lets not forget the one post about how you are about to go back to your Iphone. Sorry but a troll is a troll!
So i will take what you said and do what I do best.... Pray for you
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Didn't Divine_Madcat just tell everyone this morning to NOT REPLY to him if you think he's trolling? Geez...
Allow me to explain things as straight forward as possible. Please note I am not going to attack nor will I insult you.. I am spelling out facts.
Android Market does not allow malware.. There are 3 types of applications. 1) Free Application offered for no cost, 2) Ad-enabled application free to the user but you have to deal with ads gets money to the developer, 3) Paid for application. You pay for it
Now with that said.. Lets look at what your installing, If you can list out all the applications on your phone this is done by
Go to Market
Click Menu
Click My Apps
Type in all the application names there in here.
That will better help us diagnose your problem. Without that we really can not help you as a novice user you may mistake "out of the box" with nothing done when you have downloaded 10 applications. That is not for me to say but for you to show us.
Next when your asking for help please make sure to be terse and to the point with your problems, adding in extra frustration for it only makes you seem "troll" like. I could see how the other user seen you as if you where promoting IPhone and bashing Android.. Make sure to keep your personal impressions to a minimum and that will help you out here.
And remember, 99% of all problems you will incur as a user with force close are usually the users fault. Now if your a developer.. Well yea.. You will be crashing a phone alot.
So get us that list and lets see if we can't make your phone experience as good as ours is..
So I'm new to android after having an iPhone for the past 4 years and decided I wanted a change. I couldn't decide between the z2 and the m8. I've had a HTC before and it was quite possibly the worst phone I've ever owned (hero) however I loved sense. And the xperia ui just seems too plain for me. So im wondering, if rooted would I be able to put sense 6 on my z2? Would it work the way it should or would there be limitations?
I was also wondering about the whole kid mode thing on sense / touchwiz. Can this be changed into a sort of profile for the phone? So I could have it set to my profile and have everything open to me or set it to another and have half of my stuff different. (Ie apps, logins, etc etc ) basically like having different log ins to a PC.
And my final question is; can you get the phone to have an iOS control panel (slide from the bottom). That was ridiculously helpful and its missed greatly!
On a different note, my double tap to wake can be a little off by not working and I've had a couple of occasions where my phones been in my pocket for a while and it failed to wake up (double tap or physical button) have Sony addressed these issues and is there going to be a fix? From what I can gather the double tap is a certain builds issue. I've also got a gap in the bottom left and the phone overheats shooting 4k. I'm not too bothered by the overheat but I still expected more for a flagship phone. /:
I'd send it back but I'm worried id receive a phone with even worse problems. /: almost makes me wish I'd got the m8!!
Yes there is some ported Blinkfeed from Sense6. (didn't work for me anyway) Otherwise You can try Golauncher or something else.
2nd question kid mode isn't pre-installed in this phone, not sure about what kid mode does. But I found an apps that you can try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zoodles.kidmode
3rd question you can't have exactly same things as ios, but you might like PieControl.... it's something different from what you expecting.... you may also try SmallApps(with Sony UI)
Double tap to wake is working fine for me and it should work without any problem. Before you messed it up rooting or flashing I recommend you to take it to shop and ask.
4k overheating is normal and gap is fault. Definitely you can get new XZ2. Gap issue is not good with waterproof.
CenteaOSD said:
Yes there is some ported Blinkfeed from Sense6. (didn't work for me anyway) Otherwise You can try Golauncher or something else.
2nd question kid mode isn't pre-installed in this phone, not sure about what kid mode does. But I found an apps that you can try
3rd question you can't have exactly same things as ios, but you might like PieControl.... it's something different from what you expecting.... you may also try SmallApps(with Sony UI)
Double tap to wake is working fine for me and it should work without any problem. Before you messed it up rooting or flashing I recommend you to take it to shop and ask.
4k overheating is normal and gap is fault. Definitely you can get new XZ2. Gap issue is not good with waterproof.
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I mean, once rooted is there a way I can put sense6 on my phone as a whole? Not just blinkfeed..
Yeah, I've seen with a few security apps that you can password protect particular apps and stuff but I was wondering if there was a way you could have different profiles set for the phone which youd have to log into for example.
Thanks for the info, I shall give those two a go!
Yeah, I think I'll go into a three store tomorrow. Is there a production line that's fault free so far?
Thanks for the help so far, sorry if I didn't make my original questions clear enough!
xRoyle said:
I mean, once rooted is there a way I can put sense6 on my phone as a whole? Not just blinkfeed..
Yeah, I've seen with a few security apps that you can password protect particular apps and stuff but I was wondering if there was a way you could have different profiles set for the phone which youd have to log into for example.
Thanks for the info, I shall give those two a go!
Yeah, I think I'll go into a three store tomorrow. Is there a production line that's fault free so far?
Thanks for the help so far, sorry if I didn't make my original questions clear enough!
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Sorry it's my misunderstood. Yes there is no sense poted rom for XperiaZ2 and there will be no sense ported rom in future,I bet.
I've seen Sense Ported ROM on GalaxyS2 but it's discontinued..... so it's very difficult to port it.
Have fun with your XperiaZ2! And have a nice day!
So. I did a bunch of complaining about the T-Mobile network lock and the whole waiting game.. Then I found out that I had to wait an additional undetermined amount of days tp get the OEM key from OnePlus.. Grrrrrr... Arrrggg!! Well if any of you have a Nord 10 5G from the USA and it happens to be a carrier phone its gonna take at least 45 days from Carrier to OEM before you can root the thing. Just this morning, and after a long wait with much study on this process, I finally had my climactic victory with my first rooted device with a custom ROM. I am seriously a novice when it comes to these phones. Thank Geebus I have some sort of tech understanding and a ton of patience because I now have a beautifully modded Nord N10 5G that runs like a Pixel 5 with all the bells and whistles. A great deal of thanks goes to you folks for providing me the tools and know how to get thru this. The new PixelExperience_Plus ROM worked like a charm. And my ignorant American ass got it right on the fist try! I can't wait to see what kinds of new things you all will let me chew on in the near future. Cheers!!
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So. I did a bunch of complaining about the T-Mobile network lock and the whole waiting game.. Then I found out that I had to wait an additional undetermined amount of days tp get the OEM key from OnePlus.. Grrrrrr... Arrrggg!! Well if any of you have a Nord 10 5G from the USA and it happens to be a carrier phone its gonna take at least 45 days from Carrier to OEM before you can root the thing. Just this morning, and after a long wait with much study on this process, I finally had my climactic victory with my first rooted device with a custom ROM. I am seriously a novice when it comes to these phones. Thank Geebus I have some sort of tech understanding and a ton of patience because I now have a beautifully modded Nord N10 5G that runs like a Pixel 5 with all the bells and whistles. A great deal of thanks goes to you folks for providing me the tools and know how to get thru this. The new PixelExperience_Plus ROM worked like a charm. And my ignorant American ass got it right on the fist try! I can't wait to see what kinds of new things you all will let me chew on in the near future. Cheers!!
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I'm currently on my 6th rooted phone and I can assure you that typically it's never a relaxed process: You're always anxious because you don't want to turn your phone into a useless brick (unbootable and no possible fix).
However, just like you, all the knowledge we gain when rooting the phones it's totally worthy.
Now, since this is your first root, I want to share some useful root-required apps with you (most of them are not available on Google's play store, you can find them on F-Droid for example):
AdAway: System-wide free and open-source ad blocker. It has predefined ads lists. Some games where you get rewards for viewing ads either show an error when viewing the ad or give will simply reward you instantly without showing the ad.
AFWall+: System-wide firewall that blocks internet access for certain apps: Useful to avoid fishy apps to send your personal info to their servers. For example ATM I'm blocking Microsoft SwiftKey Keyboard, Google Messages and Google Phone.
Bouncer (paid): Gives temporary permissions to the apps and remembers your option: If you want to send an image through facebook go ahead, allow the external storage access, then later a notification shows up asking you to remove the pending temporary permissions.
OverrideDNS (paid): Probably the best DNS overrider you can find, it listens for new connections and automatically changes the DNS to your desired one.
Greenify: It's a huge helper on battery saving, allows you to select apps that you don't want to allow to run on background: Greenify kills these apps. Useful if you're like me and you have lots of apps that you use ONLY when needed, for instance, I don't want any of my games to run on background and I don't want to be bothered by game notifications.
Boot animations for superuser: Allows you to flash custom boot animations. Be careful with this app, I didn't try it yet on OP N10 (since I actually like Oxygen's boot animation).
Tasker (paid): Now this is where the fun begins... You can automate pretty much anything! Let me give you some examples that I have on my tasker:
Managing some custom profiles (technically speaking, custom tasks). I have 2 pre-defined profiles: Home and Outside (they change screen brightness, volumes, vibration, display timeout, wi-fi state, mobile data state, and so on, and these values depend if I'm connected to my smartwatch or not).
If my phone connects to my car's BT system, I forced tasker into changing to my Outside profile. If my phone is at my house's coordinates, it changes to home profile.
Whenever I connect my headset, it automatically opens Spotify.
When I received a text message, my torch flashes 3 times.
If my battery reaches 10%, it automatically sends my GF a message saying my battery is running low.
Whenever I open Google Maps, my GPS turns on.
Do you have links to these wonderful apps?
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Do you have links to these wonderful apps?
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Yes.
AdAway (or get it from F-Droid)
AFWall+ (you can also find it on Google Play or F-Droid)
Bouncer: You can either visit the author's website or get it on Google Play
OverrideDNS (you can find it on Google Play)
Greenify (you can find it on Google Play)
Boot animations for Super User (you can find it on Google Play)
Tasker (you can find it on Google Play)
You can also see some examples of tasker capabilities on the author's YouTube channel.
Oh man, wait until you get apps like V4A running.
It's a whole new ballpark, just gotta be careful not to hit too many foul balls.
So make sure to keep a backup whenever you start messing around.
CF Lumen (Play Store)
Titanium Backup (Play Store)
Solid Explorer (Play Store)
I thought the advantage to buying OnePlus phones is that they do not lock the bootloader, so no rooting is required (I read that somewhere online). Is that not correct?
I have been thinking about the N10 or 8T, but the lack of carrier support is making me hesitant. Also, the N10 has very good specs for the price, but with only one Android update and only 2 years of security updates, it would (I assume) need to have a custom rom installed after that to maintain security. Is that correct?
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I thought the advantage to buying OnePlus phones is that they do not lock the bootloader, so no rooting is required (I read that somewhere online). Is that not correct?
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Not correct, the bootloader is still locked but:
If you unlock it, the device will still pass Google's SafetyNet check (which is used to check if your device is reliable to use more sensitive APPs/features: Netflix, Brave's rewards feature, some payment APPs). When I rooted my Xiaomi MI A3, unlocking the bootloader made the device being marked as untrustworthy, and therefore failing the SafetyNet.
OnePlus allows users to root their phone without voiding the warranty.
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I have been thinking about the N10 or 8T, but the lack of carrier support is making me hesitant. Also, the N10 has very good specs for the price, but with only one Android update and only 2 years of security updates, it would (I assume) need to have a custom rom installed after that to maintain security. Is that correct?
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What do you mean carrier support? The first time I bought an OP device, they weren't even officially selling in my country.
Are you telling me that your country still sim-locks the devices? Why don't you buy it directly from oneplus.com? I think those are unlocked.
If you're referring to the frequency support, you can Google to check the frequency coverage in your area and compare with the device's supported frequencies.
OP's typically have a good ROM support, try Pixel Experience...
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Not correct, the bootloader is still locked but:
If you unlock it, the device will still pass Google's SafetyNet check (which is used to check if your device is reliable to use more sensitive APPs/features: Netflix, Brave's rewards feature, some payment APPs). When I rooted my Xiaomi MI A3, unlocking the bootloader made the device being marked as untrustworthy, and therefore failing the SafetyNet.
OnePlus allows users to root their phone without voiding the warranty.
What do you mean carrier support? The first time I bought an OP device, they weren't even officially selling in my country.
Are you telling me that your country still sim-locks the devices? Why don't you buy it directly from oneplus.com? I think those are unlocked.
If you're referring to the frequency support, you can Google to check the frequency coverage in your area and compare with the device's supported frequencies.
OP's typically have a good ROM support, try Pixel Experience...
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I apologize for my confusing message. I am in the USA. By "carriers" I meant companies like Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, etc. I am currently on Republic Wireless with a Moto G5s Plus (stuck on Android 8 and no more security patches either). RW doesn't allow the N10 5G yet on their network. I have only found a few MVNOs that do (e.g. Mint Mobile). Just about all support phones from Moto and Samsung. So I feel I may be going out on a limb getting a OnePlus phone.
AT&T actually (temporarily) suspended my account for turning the N105G on, with my AT&T SIM in it. Learned the hard way no one answers the phone anymore outside business hours, glad I didn't need to make any calls or do it on Friday at 5:01p. They got fired for that.
TMobile took it happily, no issues with activation, nice 5G signal (we don't have MMw in my city, but uses one of the other bands). Speed varies by location/tower, but have clocked downloads over 380Mbs. Note that Tmobile uses IPV6 and IPV4, so for certain things like VPNs you either have to futz with the APN settings to do IPV4 only, or make sure you have IPV6 functionality on destination sites (when you do, works pretty damn slick, I must say).
The thought of using Verizon makes me want to throw up, so no comments on that one.
Hope that helps.
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AT&T actually (temporarily) suspended my account for turning the N105G on, with my AT&T SIM in it. Learned the hard way no one answers the phone anymore outside business hours, glad I didn't need to make any calls or do it on Friday at 5:01p. They got fired for that.
TMobile took it happily, no issues with activation, nice 5G signal (we don't have MMw in my city, but uses one of the other bands). Speed varies by location/tower, but have clocked downloads over 380Mbs. Note that Tmobile uses IPV6 and IPV4, so for certain things like VPNs you either have to futz with the APN settings to do IPV4 only, or make sure you have IPV6 functionality on destination sites (when you do, works pretty damn slick, I must say).
The thought of using Verizon makes me want to throw up, so no comments on that one.
Hope that helps.
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There's a reason why AT&T is losing customers
stealth49rt said:
I apologize for my confusing message. I am in the USA. By "carriers" I meant companies like Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, etc. I am currently on Republic Wireless with a Moto G5s Plus (stuck on Android 8 and no more security patches either). RW doesn't allow the N10 5G yet on their network. I have only found a few MVNOs that do (e.g. Mint Mobile). Just about all support phones from Moto and Samsung. So I feel I may be going out on a limb getting a OnePlus phone.
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If you have the ability to mod your phone, I mean install a custom ROM I suggest Pixel experience and Deepest. I've run them both and you have a lot more control over your radio options and network capability. Good luck!
Spidermonkeyj75 said:
If you have the ability to mod your phone, I mean install a custom ROM I suggest Pixel experience and Derpfest I've run them both and you have a lot more control over your radio options and network capability. Good luck!
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Spidermonkeyj75 said:
So. I did a bunch of complaining about the T-Mobile network lock and the whole waiting game.. Then I found out that I had to wait an additional undetermined amount of days tp get the OEM key from OnePlus.. Grrrrrr... Arrrggg!! Well if any of you have a Nord 10 5G from the USA and it happens to be a carrier phone its gonna take at least 45 days from Carrier to OEM before you can root the thing. Just this morning, and after a long wait with much study on this process, I finally had my climactic victory with my first rooted device with a custom ROM. I am seriously a novice when it comes to these phones. Thank Geebus I have some sort of tech understanding and a ton of patience because I now have a beautifully modded Nord N10 5G that runs like a Pixel 5 with all the bells and whistles. A great deal of thanks goes to you folks for providing me the tools and know how to get thru this. The new PixelExperience_Plus ROM worked like a charm. And my ignorant American ass got it right on the fist try! I can't wait to see what kinds of new things you all will let me chew on in the near future. Cheers!!
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Hi, i just had to ditch my pixel2 when the screen died and got the nord 10 5g. if rooted plenty of phones before but never had to wait to get an oem key from a vendor. would you mind elaborating on this point before i head into nightmare?
frankygoes said:
Hi, i just had to ditch my pixel2 when the screen died and got the nord 10 5g. if rooted plenty of phones before but never had to wait to get an oem key from a vendor. would you mind elaborating on this point before i head into nightmare?
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No problem, if you have a T-Mobile carrier you will have to jump thru a few hoops to get your network (SIM) unlock , then you have to run a command via ADB to get the unlock code, :But WAIT ! There' s MORE" When that has al come to pass you have to get the unlock token from OnePlus and while in Fastboot Mode , you have to flash the cust-unlock.bin file to unlock the bootloader. Afterwards you can load whatever you want in there. Unfortunately, the Nord N10 5G doesn't get a lot of support or updates which sucks because it's not a bad device on the right platform. I'm looking to try the A/B GSI Flash method since the device is Treble worthy. Good luck! Hope you fare better than I did my first go-around.
thanks for the response. So i got an unlocked phone into which i put my existing SIM card. went into the developer settings and enabled "allow bootloader to be unlocked." you are saying that to now actually unlock the bootloader i need a code from oneplus?
Yep. A big pain in the ass.