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Is there anyway to do this with our phone? I know there is a setting for it in the camera but it doesn't really create the blur effect of things in the background
Play with the camera because there are ways to make it focus on specific items and "ignore" the outside ones
Put a magnifying lens in front of the lens to permit closer focusing.
get a digital cam to take real photos, especially macro shots. What you are trying to do requires a more advanced camera (re: blurry background with focused foreground)
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get a digital cam to take real photos, especially macro shots. What you are trying to do requires a more advanced camera (re: blurry background with focused foreground)
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Good point there - Even with a magnifying lens to focus more closely, the tinysensor in the phone's camera is going to result in very deep depth of field. Usually this is good for macro shooting where DOF is often razor thin, unless you're going for that "background out of focus" effect.
Hey everyone. I was just wondering what was everyone's take on the settings for the camera. I'm still undecided on the Anti-Shake usage in camera mode. It seems that it has a tendency to add more grain/noise to the picture (you can even notice it by carefully looking on the screen when you enable and disable it). Does it really help reduce blurry photos (since the phone does have digital image stabilization)? Also, same thing for video mode using video stabilization. Is it really beneficial to have it enabled? Since if you take pictures while recording, I think the resolution of the photo alters. Just wanted to know what would be the best settings in overall day-to-day usage.
I was just coming in here to complain about the camera myself and see what others are saying for best settings. I cannot either seem to get mine to take pictures without being blurry - in any type of light or with the flash.
Anyone notice that one the T-Mobile Edge, that when you set "Video Stabilization" to "On" it actually doesnt stabilize the video?
Only when you set it to "off," it'll stabilized the video recording?
It's kind of the opposite, not sure why no one else noticed.
Could be wrong here, but I believe that while recording you not going to notice any stabilization. It's happening but you won't see it until replaying the processed video after the recording is done.
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Could be wrong here, but I believe that while recording you not going to notice any stabilization. It's happening but you won't see it until replaying the processed video after the recording is done.
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To check video and photo stabilization, try zooming in to 3x, point it at something and try to do a recording with it On and off, the video will do the opposite.
It work none the less, but it's counter intuitive to have it day off when it's actually on.
OP seems to be spot on. Same problem with my regular S6. Video stabilization = off turns stabilization on. With it = on, videos are jittery as hell where even my pulse through my fingertips causes the camera to shake.
So guess there's a bug in the camera app.
I just noticed the same thing with my unbranded regular Galaxy S6. If you have video stabilization turned on in camera app settings it is in fact turned off. I was surprised how poorly it stabilizes the video, so I had to use 'Stabilize' option in YouTube. Then I thought maybe my optical image stabilization component is damaged so I started playing with it and once I turned it off my video stabilization started to work very well. So it seems to be a bug in camera software. Anyway - if you want to have video stabilization you need to have it turned off Samsung logic
The reasoning is because the video stabilization setting in the camera app turns on DIGITAL Image Stabilizing by Samsung via software which is really just counterproductive to the Optical Image Stabilization already built into the camera.
So yeah, trust the OIS hardware because typically hardware > software in this field.
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The reasoning is because the video stabilization setting in the camera app turns on DIGITAL Image Stabilizing by Samsung via software which is really just counterproductive to the Optical Image Stabilization already built into the camera.
So yeah, trust the OIS hardware because typically hardware > software in this field.
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Just a question so OIS is default by default and always on am I right? Even on UHD recording?
More evidence that the switch in the camera options refers to DIGITAL image stabilization:
Set video resolution to FHD (not the 60fps option). Otherwise, the Video Stabilization setting is not available (grayed out).
Set the Video Stabilization setting to "ON".
Go back to the camera, zoom in fully (8x). While pointing at something easily identifiable, without shooting video, note that the image is stabilized quite well -- you can simulate "shaky hands" and the image is very stable, not jittery. However, you are not shooting video yet, so settings specific to video are not activated. What's happening here is the OIS is working, and doing a very good job.
Now, click the video recording button. You will notice two changes in the image: It will zoom in a little bit more without any zooming input from you, and the image will get rather UNSTABLE.
It turns out, what you had selected in the settings is actually, truly, being invoked. No, this is not a bug. The switch is not acting the opposite of how its labeled, even though the RESULT is exactly that in practice.
Here's what's happening: As someone else noted, that switch controls digital image stabilization. This is a software process, that basically crops off a small margin all the way around the picture and reserves these pixels for calculating a smaller moving "window" in the larger captured image space. The software tries to move this window around so that it follows the random small movements from jiggling, unsteady hands, etc. In this way, the image appears stable rather than moving around in the capture space.
This is why, when DIS is turned on, the displayed image zooms a little bit -- that's the "reserve image edges" being cropped off and the remaining image being expanded into the display area.
So, here's what I think is happening: When you have Video Stabilization on, the phone turns off OIS and enables the DIS algorithm. The OIS camera hardware is something like a Googolplex times better as IS than Samsung's crappy algorithm, so the end result is the appearance of IS being turned OFF and a little loss of resolution of the video image as well.
Once the video is stopped, after a few seconds you'll see the DIS turned off, OIS turned back on, and the image will zoom out a tiny bit and become very stable again.
Bottom line: The Video Stabilization setting in the S6 camera app is worse than useless. It's adverse. It should be left off at all times under all conditions.
How did this happen? My guess is, the engineering team responsible for the hardware was organizationally distant enough from the camera software team (keep in mind the latter are trying to develop an app that can run across many phones). The hardware guys put this incredible camera in the phone with awesome OIS. The software guys, not focused only on the S6, passed through the DIS that's been in the camera app forever, and no one engineer was responsible for integrating all this stuff for the camera feature itself, testing it, making sense of it, blah blah blah.
And here we are.
Bottom line: Because of the OIS in the S6, the DIS feature in the camera app is unnecessary and should be left OFF. In fact, the way it works misleads the user into thinking IS can't be had with the video resolutions higher than non-60fps FHD. In fact, exceptional IS is available at all times in all resolutions for stills and video -- the hardware OIS is always on the job, unless you turn it off by turning on the [digital] Video Stabilization option in the settings.
The only bug here, if any, is that this setting seems to turn off OIS, when it doesn't need to. Perhaps with OIS on, and the DIS processing applied to that stabilized image, we might get something even better than OIS alone. Alas...
I am considering this device for my next phone but had a couple of questions about the camera. It is important to me to be able to take pictures in quick succession (like taking multiple photographs of moving objects etc.).
1. On some of the other competing phones, I've noticed the ability to take a bunch of photos in quick succession, with no lag (the phone is ready to take the next picture immediately after taking a picture). I have read on a couple of sites that after a picture is taken, the Z5/Z5C takes a second or two to save it, so that the camera is not immediately available for the next photo. For those who have experience with this phone, what has been your experience?
2. Is the camera experience on the Compact similar to that on the Z5 or are there any differences?
Thank you!
You can't take pictures in quick succession like that sadly. It takes a while :/
Thanks. Is the lag true of all modes (superior auto and manual) and all resolutions (8 my and 23 mp)?
Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
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Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
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You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Edit: I made a quick video, so u can check it out while not having this device (yet?)
https://youtu.be/aP8dBfkU6QA
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Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
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I think Photo Analyzer created lagging in older and slower xperia but I don't found any different yet on Z5c before or after disabled it. I never use stock album(even disabled it...lol) probably Photo Analyzer won't mess me.
23MP is slower than expected but 8MP is fast(still slightly slower than my S6 but close to it). You'll need to switch to Sport Mode to shoot moving objects, so only 8MP available to you because scene mode limited to 8MP.
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You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Thanks for the video! In practice, do you go in and examine all 60 photos and delete the ones that you don't need?
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I think Photo Analyzer created lagging in older and slower xperia but I don't found any different yet on Z5c before or after disabled it. I never use stock album(even disabled it...lol) probably Photo Analyzer won't mess me.
23MP is slower than expected but 8MP is fast(still slightly slower than my S6 but close to it). You'll need to switch to Sport Mode to shoot moving objects, so only 8MP available to you because scene mode limited to 8MP.
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Thanks for the reply! Two questions:
1. When you talk about 8MP being slightly slower than the S6 - in practice, let's say to photograph my dog, is this sufficiently fast enough? Is there a clear wait time after a photo is taken before I take the next one?
2. In Sport mode, is the lag negligible enough that I can shoot multiple back-to-back photos?
Thanks!
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Thanks for the reply! Two questions:
1. When you talk about 8MP being slightly slower than the S6 - in practice, let's say to photograph my dog, is this sufficiently fast enough? Is there a clear wait time after a photo is taken before I take the next one?
2. In Sport mode, is the lag negligible enough that I can shoot multiple back-to-back photos?
Thanks!
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1. 8MP enough no clear wait time, 23MP a bit harder
2. sport mode only 8MP
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1. 8MP enough no clear wait time, 23MP a bit harder
2. sport mode only 8MP
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In SuperAuto or Manual, you can take fast photos. sort of. If it has to do an autofocus, you have to wait. However if you take successive photos without the focus needing to change much, it is fairly fast. Like less half a second. However, if I tap as fast as I can, it can't keep up. Maybe 1 photo for every three taps.
Timeshift burst cant take photos very fast (8MP). However its a little annoying. You have to switch to that "mode" (basically start that app) if you want to do a timeshift photo. When you are in that mode, I think you are constantly taking photos. Once you hit the "shutter" it gives you -15 +15 photos or so. You can select which one you want, but when I goto the gallery, they're all still in there. It's not as convenient as on the iphone for example. On there, you just hold down the shutter and it takes photos for however long you hold it down. Then you choose what you want and the rest are deleted.
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Timeshift burst cant take photos very fast (8MP). However its a little annoying. You have to switch to that "mode" (basically start that app) if you want to do a timeshift photo. When you are in that mode, I think you are constantly taking photos. Once you hit the "shutter" it gives you -15 +15 photos or so. You can select which one you want, but when I goto the gallery, they're all still in there. It's not as convenient as on the iphone for example. On there, you just hold down the shutter and it takes photos for however long you hold it down. Then you choose what you want and the rest are deleted.
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In older xperia like Z1/Z2, Timeshift burst only takes 1920x1080 photo resolution(2MP). Is that increase to 8MP now on Z5c?
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langeveld024 said:
You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Thanks for the video! In practice, do you go in and examine all 60 photos and delete the ones that you don't need?
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Yes I use it for thunderstorm lightnings especially. You can save 1 (or more) of those 60 shots separately and afterwards delete the timeshift pictures.
You can also review the timeshift pictures via stock album app.
However, if u decide to use another album app, you'll be a bit annoyed by every timeshift picture shows 60 pics that's why I delete the timeshift pics after saving the best 1 or 2 separately.
BTW, just made another video of an timeshift shot of a thunderstorm lightning I did last year with my old Xperia Z (C6603) https://youtu.be/ROmoWD_c9hM
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coming from a Lumia 930.. this z5c camera is.. terrible.
- Really slow shot burst (1 photo takes more than 1 second to save)
- When shooting at 23 mpx do yourself a favor and never, NEVER zoom it to 100%. Its only TERRIBLE.
- Low light and you can't use any flash? Don't try to take any photo at all. its just crap.
- Camera app "manual mode" is not manual at all. Changing the SCN (scene mode, night, portrait, food) is NOT manual by any mean
- Apps like Manual Camera (with all the real manual controls) just crash when you try to set iso, shutter time or manual focus (i read somewhere its caused by sony camera firmware, i don't know if its the real reason)
- When Camera is on the phone gets hot REALLY quickly, otherwise is always cold as ice.
- Timeshift video app is awesome
so.. yeah, decent camera, but i still cry when i see my old Lumia930's photos
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coming from a Lumia 930.. this z5c camera is.. terrible.
- Really slow shot burst (1 photo takes more than 1 second to save)
- When shooting at 23 mpx do yourself a favor and never, NEVER zoom it to 100%. Its only TERRIBLE.
- Low light and you can't use any flash? Don't try to take any photo at all. its just crap.
- Camera app "manual mode" is not manual at all. Changing the SCN (scene mode, night, portrait, food) is NOT manual by any mean
- Apps like Manual Camera (with all the real manual controls) just crash when you try to set iso, shutter time or manual focus (i read somewhere its caused by sony camera firmware, i don't know if its the real reason)
- When Camera is on the phone gets hot REALLY quickly, otherwise is always cold as ice.
- Timeshift video app is awesome
so.. yeah, decent camera, but i still cry when i see my old Lumia930's photos
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I think the current build is beta and got very high expectation on 6.0, if Sony doesn't fix the camera I'll consider to sell it out. But other than the camera, the screen, waterproof(no usb flag), stereo speaker are all real upgraded when compared to older Z1c/Z3c.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/general/disappointed-z5-camera-pictures-quality-t3217766/page82
There are a couple of guys on Z5 board keep repeating Z5 camera all around better than S6, G4/V10 or Lumia which made me laugh out though.
Hi there,
I wanted to start a discussion about stuff that we like/dislike about this phone, but not the obvious stuff - rather things that are not much talked about. When I read about this phone, most popular topics are about fingerprint sensor, screen resolution, 50x zoom, night mode...
So first, things I don't like:
1. Aspect ratio issues:
- No 16:9 photos aspect ratio.
- Screen 19.5:9 aspect ratio can cause issues in games/applications that only support 16:9 aspect ratio. It's not a huge issue, because most apps support wide screen. It's also the same for other wide screen phones.
- Screen mirroring to TV - because of 19.5:9 aspect ratio, there are black bars on top and bottom, so when you are viewing 4:3 photos on 16:9 TV, the photo is very small and shown only in the center of TV with black bars around it. I don't know how other wide screen phones work, but I guess the same way.
2. Camera:
- There is no way to force the camera app to use the optical 5x zoom in photo mode/videos when the light is low. For me it was a huge issue when I was recording a concert and the camera was jumping constantly between 5x optical and digital zooms. Digital had more view on scene where the light was good, so it jumped to optical lens, optical view is out of sync so bigger part of view was on the dark crowd and it jumped back to optical again. There was no way to record it with zoom.
- How different lenses view is synced - widescreen and normal 1x are in sync when changing between them, you get basically the picture in the same position, but 5x optical and normal are just so much out of sync, that it is very very visible how it switches when you go from 4.9x to 5x. Not a huge issue, but it could be better.
- There is no level indicator in other modes than pro.
3. Speaker:
- The quality is OK at most, when compared to Samsung for example (Samsung S10 has amazing speakers), but it's a phone after all, so I don't expect much anyway.
Now things I like:
1. Huawei Share. My god, this thing is amazing. You can just connect your PC to your phone with WiFi and browse files normally as if it was connected with a usb cable! That is truly amazing. I didn't have it in Xiaomi, newest Samsung phones also don't have it. Why nobody talks about this amazing feature?
2. Camera app:
- Amazing zoom possibilities, 5x zoom which I'm using constantly during my trips and I don't know how people can say they don't use it much. There is something called perspective and this photo shows what I'm talking about. You can get especially amazing pictures when you have mountains in the background. So much discussed 50x zoom is not really usable, but 20x still has amazing quality.
- All different modes, especially the light painting/silky water is nice. Also the pro mode with so many different settings and 30 seconds shutter time. There are much more modes and possibilities than most youtube reviewers show us. They usually just show night mode, 5x zoom, 50x zoom and that's it. Like that's just 10% of options in that app! When you really start knowing the app, it is just much better than Samsung or Xiaomi camera apps. You can shoot much better pictures when you know what you are doing.
3. EMUI:
- I really like this system, the icons, design, features, it's really nice. I don't know how anyone can 'hate' this system? I came to EMUI from Xiaomi and Samsung phones and for me it's just better.
Huawei P30 Pro is my first Huawei phone and I must say I'm really impressed by the price/quality ratio. What are your thoughts?
Point 2: tray to rec videos with opencam or edgecam. You can choose 1x camera and zoom in or you can choose 5x camera. No changes between they.
"2. Camera:
- There is no way to force the camera app to use the optical 5x zoom in photo mode/videos when the light is low. For me it was a huge issue when I was recording a concert and the camera was jumping constantly between 5x optical and digital zooms. Digital had more view on scene where the light was good, so it jumped to optical lens, optical view is out of sync so bigger part of view was on the dark crowd and it jumped back to optical again. There was no way to record it with zoom."
this to me is a huge issue...as i was trying to photo one of our dogs in evening time and it would only zoom via digital.....every now and then it would flicker to ultra clear optical but not for long enough to get a shot.
no workaround at all for it ?...i see no mention of it in google searches.
i can imagine being in the same situation as you recording a gig and that would be troublesome.
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To always photograph at 5x optical use the professional mode.
dougm1970 said:
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- There is no way to force the camera app to use the optical 5x zoom in photo mode/videos when the light is low.
no workaround at all for it ?...i see no mention of it in google searches.
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Open Camera allows you to cycle through the lenses.
ID 0 is normal mode with multi-lenses
ID 1 is front camera
ID 2 is main lens
ID 3 is wide angle lens
ID 4 is zoom
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Open Camera allows you to cycle through the lenses.
ID 0 is normal mode with multi-lenses
ID 1 is front camera
ID 2 is main lens
ID 3 is wide angle lens
ID 4 is zoom
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thanks.
i don't see the option to do this.
i should add a disclaimer though...i'm an idiot.
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dougm1970 said:
thanks.
i don't see the option to do this.
i should add a disclaimer though...i'm an idiot.
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You just tap the icon to switch to the selfie camera and when you tap it again it takes you to the next lens. I discovered it by accident
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To always photograph at 5x optical use the professional mode.
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Yes, for photo it works, but then you get no AI... Also normal photo AI handles the 5x zoom when light is low better than pro, I guess it takes digital zoom which is bright and merges it with optical which is dark
As for the video, I tried the open camera, but from what I can see, it only allows to switch between normal 1x and 5x zoom, but when you zoom to 5x it works the same as huawei built in cam app... So it switches to digital and back to optical all the time.
Edgecam also allows you to use all the lenses
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With edgecam or opencam you can choose the lense.
If you choose 1x lense an make zoom is only digital zoom.
For 5x optical zoom you must change to 5x lense.
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Yes, for photo it works, but then you get no AI... Also normal photo AI handles the 5x zoom when light is low better than pro, I guess it takes digital zoom which is bright and merges it with optical which is dark
As for the video, I tried the open camera, but from what I can see, it only allows to switch between normal 1x and 5x zoom, but when you zoom to 5x it works the same as huawei built in cam app... So it switches to digital and back to optical all the time.
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Mine stays on optical all the time in video.
Yes pictures are generally better with AI but OC enables you to stay with optical even when light is low.
Issue :ghost notifications.
By ghost notifications i mean there is a sound and vibration but nothing else. Now I am pretty used to them, but from day one and after a couple of updates, they are still present. I have disable notifications from almost all apps except messaging ones, but ghost notifications keep going! Even during night with flight mode on. ?
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Edgecam also allows you to use all the lenses
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Where do I find Edgecam? It's not in the UK Play Store as far as I can see.
Sorry, hedgecam 2.
Maybe I'm missing something as I am very new to this phone. I have set my phone to lock after 2 minutes but whenever it locks, it makes a click type sound which I find very distracting. I wish I could turn that off.
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Maybe I'm missing something as I am very new to this phone. I have set my phone to lock after 2 minutes but whenever it locks, it makes a click type sound which I find very distracting. I wish I could turn that off.
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Actually you can turn it off.
Go to Settings ---> Sounds (or Tones) then pick the last entry and deactivate Lockscreen sound.
I don't know how it looks in english, as my native language is German
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Maybe I'm missing something as I am very new to this phone. I have set my phone to lock after 2 minutes but whenever it locks, it makes a click type sound which I find very distracting. I wish I could turn that off.
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Go to sound > more sound settings > screen lock. Disable it and there u go.