Has anyone tried to put the firmware of devices from meizu, xiaomi? For example, CM 13?Supposed to work? Support scanner available from meizu , and the seams are already stable
It's not possible to do that. Any ROM that you load into a phone must be built for that particular model. Although non-stock ROMs are available for many phones, including the P9000, they are all built using the kernel (which is the bit of code that controls the hardware - device drivers, if you like) of the stock ROM supplied by the manufacturer. So you can tweak the original ROM and sometimes add new features (if you have the skill to do it, of course, it's not a simple task), but you can't just load up CM13, for instance, from a Meizu phone.
RMcT said:
It's not possible to do that. Any ROM that you load into a phone must be built for that particular model. Although non-stock ROMs are available for many phones, including the P9000, they are all built using the kernel (which is the bit of code that controls the hardware - device drivers, if you like) of the stock ROM supplied by the manufacturer. So you can tweak the original ROM and sometimes add new features (if you have the skill to do it, of course, it's not a simple task), but you can't just load up CM13, for instance, from a Meizu phone.
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thank you for such a detailed explanation, very grateful???
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Hello,
So my brother bough a chinese smartphone. Many chinese apps where preinstalled and I have been able to remove them, so you wouldn't notice it is a chinese device. However it would be neat if this phone would have proper AOSP.
The current ROM is almost AOSP, minor modifications have been done. This made me curious, would one be able to compile AOSP from source, and use the original kernel (if compatible)? Is a kernel extractable from a ROM to be used in another? Do you need the sources from the manufacturer in order to succesfully build AOSP?
Please note I'm not trying to do this, I'm just curious if it could be done. I have done a fair amount of research but most of the tutorials are about compiling kernels, something I DON'T want to do.
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Hello,
So my brother bough a chinese smartphone. Many chinese apps where preinstalled and I have been able to remove them, so you wouldn't notice it is a chinese device. However it would be neat if this phone would have proper AOSP.
The current ROM is almost AOSP, minor modifications have been done. This made me curious, would one be able to compile AOSP from source, and use the original kernel (if compatible)? Is a kernel extractable from a ROM to be used in another? Do you need the sources from the manufacturer in order to succesfully build AOSP?
Please note I'm not trying to do this, I'm just curious if it could be done. I have done a fair amount of research but most of the tutorials are about compiling kernels, something I DON'T want to do.
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It is definitely possible, but will take many hours of work of you want to achieve a stable daily driver state. Usually the kernel will need modifications to make it work with the AOSP ROM.
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Say the rom uses a kernel that works with AOSP, can one build the Android OS using the already compiled kernel from the device?
Hello
Here is a little question, is it possible to create a universal android rom.
Today, cyanogenmod allow us to have different flavour of android for many devices. But cyanogenmod is not universal and requires specific hacks for each device.
I know that Android is based on a linux kernel, that kernel should beallow an automatic detection of the devices specifications....
Moreover, Motorola initiates its Ara project. This new concept should be linked to an evolutive version of Android.
Is there anyway to see one day an android repository to upgrade and costumize your phone/phablet/tablet. With an essential package (OS) and options (launcher/Touchwiz....).
An universal evolutive OS should be a way to solve
- android fragmentation.
- security update
- Easy update without formatting your device
- OTA update for all devices (Samsung, Cube, HTC....) even for olders or chinese models
bart47 said:
Hello
Here is a little question, is it possible to create a universal android rom.
Today, cyanogenmod allow us to have different flavour of android for many devices. But cyanogenmod is not universal and requires specific hacks for each device.
I know that Android is based on a linux kernel, that kernel should beallow an automatic detection of the devices specifications....
Moreover, Motorola initiates its Ara project. This new concept should be linked to an evolutive version of Android.
Is there anyway to see one day an android repository to upgrade and costumize your phone/phablet/tablet. With an essential package (OS) and options (launcher/Touchwiz....).
An universal evolutive OS should be a way to solve
- android fragmentation.
- security update
- Easy update without formatting your device
- OTA update for all devices (Samsung, Cube, HTC....) even for olders or chinese models
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I'm not going to be the one to say its impossible but its very unlikely. Different devices use different modems, kernels, and other system requirements. The CM team may be able to come up with something like that but you won't see it anytime soon if it happens. There are some ROMs out there that are in 1 big AROMA zip file and they all have the same features but the bases meet the requirements of the specific device.
bart47 said:
Hello
Here is a little question, is it possible to create a universal android rom.
Today, cyanogenmod allow us to have different flavour of android for many devices. But cyanogenmod is not universal and requires specific hacks for each device.
I know that Android is based on a linux kernel, that kernel should beallow an automatic detection of the devices specifications....
Moreover, Motorola initiates its Ara project. This new concept should be linked to an evolutive version of Android.
Is there anyway to see one day an android repository to upgrade and costumize your phone/phablet/tablet. With an essential package (OS) and options (launcher/Touchwiz....).
An universal evolutive OS should be a way to solve
- android fragmentation.
- security update
- Easy update without formatting your device
- OTA update for all devices (Samsung, Cube, HTC....) even for olders or chinese models
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I doubt it's possibility. Different phones have different kernels/coding for hardware. All Android phones uses Linux kernel, but are coded differently, and that's why we have different/custom kernels. Phones/phablets/tablets have different UIs, which will result in larger updates. Furthermore, u said "essential package" which is hardly possible due to large file size and company issues. For example, Samsung has TouchWiz (and all it's bloatware ), while HTC has Sense (and the bloatwares ), and to stuff everything in a single ROM /Update, it's simply too much. (A update from Samsung would cost 100-300mb, and if what u say is true, OTA updates would cost 600mb~. (Take into account the stock Android launcher.)) I doubt Samsung would like this idea too. Companies like Samsung and HTC have their own launchers to differentiate themselves from others, and if consumers have a choice, they might use other launchers other than their own. (E.g. a Samsung user wants to use Sense, while preserving the Samsung hardware.) Though I would very much like to see this in the future, this is technically impossible. Hoped this explained your question.
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This is literally impossible, All devices would need to be designed to perform for that rom. Not only that but not a single one of those companies would agree to it. They'd actually attempt to make their own os before doing that, and the reasoning is simple, each company is in this race for themselves not as a team effort. For this to happen would be going the route of IOS, which android is not.
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Hi,
I work in the security and privacy field and would like to start development of a new lightweight ROM with strong security and privacy controls but to be honest I don't have a clue where to start. I am experienced in flashing ROMs onto Android devices (currently have CM on my Nexus 4 and Galaxy Tab 2 as well as Beanstalk on my old HTC Desire Bravo) but have not yet built a custom ROM.
Ideally I would like to build the lightest possible ROM for HTC Desire (as this is my device for experimenting) but there are a number of features/restrictions I would like to include.
I see a lot of ROMs on this site (which I am sure are very good) and some generic guides on how to build ROMs but I need some more specific information. I need to know how to build a kernel which disables access to certain things (such as regular voice calling - this ROM should only permit VOIP calls) - how to strip out all the apps and services I don't want or need, how to include the apps I want installed by default (such as droidwall) and I have yet to come across such a resource.
Ideally I would like to strip the ROM down to the bare minimum required to allow a functioning device with data connectivity and then build it back up with the functionality I need.
Could anyone point me in the right direction?
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I can Need you. You can Port roms .i have a project with Android 5.0 for Mid and Low End devices please join US We can work together but i Need more Rom porter and Kernel builder
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Hi !
Does somebody know what is the reason for GPS accuracy being so different between stock, official and custom ROMs ?
In case of my devices (mostly Lenovo) it is so that when running stock ROMs their GPS module has 3m accuracy.
Then after I flashed custom ROMs, it goes down as low as 1m. That's quite a difference !
Why is it so ?
That is the difference between drivers made for the device and open source drivers. Open source files are never as good as the closed sourced versions. It is something you accept when you use custom roms.
zelendel said:
That is the difference between drivers made for the device and open source drivers. Open source files are never as good as the closed sourced versions. It is something you accept when you use custom roms.
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But what I wanted to say is exactly opposite I noticed much better accuracy with custom ROMs than with stock roms.
My next question was like "is there any way I can improve stock GPS accuracy" by installing "somethig" from custom ROM, but I guess it's not that simple.
Hello... Since I'm not very familiar with cell phones I'm curious about something. With a desktop computer, one can build their own or have a manufacturer type ( Dell, HP and so ) Now if you take the custom build system you basically can decide which OS you want, why can't cell phones be similar to that be able to install whichever OS you like, Or can you? Like in Android is it possible to install just a basic OS onto a phone? one that doesn't have let's say Google ( Google store)? Is there an Android build without Google? Also, does Android have an OS with its own browser, if not, why not? thanks
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Hello... Since I'm not very familiar with cell phones I'm curious about something. With a desktop computer, one can build their own or have a manufacturer type ( Dell, HP and so ) Now if you take the custom build system you basically can decide which OS you want, why can't cell phones be similar to that be able to install whichever OS you like, Or can you? Like in Android is it possible to install just a basic OS onto a phone? one that doesn't have let's say Google ( Google store)? Is there an Android build without Google? Also, does Android have an OS with its own browser, if not, why not? thanks
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You're thinking about it along the correct route. There are plain, unbranded Android builds known as Vanilla Android. These are the builds you see on Nexus and Pixel devices, built from the AOSP (Android Open Source Project) and have no carrier or OEM bloat.
If you're looking for a lightweight Android OS with no GApps (Google Apps), there are a ton of custom Android builds available, the most popular in the world being LineageOS. However, it should be noted that you can't simply flash a vanilla or custom Android build to your device and expect it to boot and function properly. Android ROMs need to be ported to a specific device. This is due to the vast hardware differences between various manufacturers and models.
To see if any custom Android builds are available for your particular device, search your model device in the Search Plus option. If any custom ROMs, kernels, recoveries, etc., are available for your device, you'll find them here on XDA.
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You're thinking about it along the correct route. There are plain, unbranded Android builds known as Vanilla Android. These are the builds you see on Nexus and Pixel devices, built from the AOSP (Android Open Source Project) and have no carrier or OEM bloat.
If you're looking for a lightweight Android OS with no GApps (Google Apps), there are a ton of custom Android builds available, the most popular in the world being LineageOS. However, it should be noted that you can't simply flash a vanilla or custom Android build to your device and expect it to boot and function properly. Android ROMs need to be ported to a specific device. This is due to the vast hardware differences between various manufacturers and models.
To see if any custom Android builds are available for your particular device, search your model device in the Search Plus option. If any custom ROMs, kernels, recoveries, etc., are available for your device, you'll find them here on XDA.
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Thank you for your input it gave me more of an understanding and I will do as suggested