Gentleman, Cross carrier HD Voice / VOLTE appears to finally be a real thing.
A few minutes ago I had my first HD VOLTE call with my mother. I'm Verizon/N6p, She's ATT/Iphone6. We're both in Brevard County Florida
A quick googlin' shows they are rolling this out in select markets.
Anyone else seeing this with other carriers or other areas?
NickOlsen8390 said:
Gentleman, Cross carrier HD Voice / VOLTE appears to finally be a real thing.
A few minutes ago I had my first HD VOLTE call with my mother. I'm Verizon/N6p, She's ATT/Iphone6. We're both in Brevard County Florida
A quick googlin' shows they are rolling this out in sele woct markets.
Anyone else seeing this with other carriers or other areas?
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I didn't know this was a real thing. I'm in orange country FL. I'll def pay attention to this. It would explain why I lost VOLTE for a couple of days if towers were being upgraded
Would this apply to those on Project Fi?
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tekno4ever said:
Would this apply to those on Project Fi?
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Only if Sprint, T-Mobile and US Cellular are on the list for the roll-out.
Then again, does Project Fi even support VoLTE already? T-Mobile does and we are using T-Mobile's technology after all.
Being that Project FI is technically just SIP over data, they COULD support an HD wideband codec. But to my knowledge they do not support any type of Wide band codec. And by default technical Voice over LTE is impossible as all Project Fi voice is technically Voice over IP.
Also. I have verified with multiple VZW and ATT customers. Calls from ATT > VZW turn up in HD. Calls VZW > ATT do NOT turn up in HD. I called VZW to question them. And the teir 2 support person I got was clueless and I didn't have time to argue the matter with her. I'll follow up with them later tonight and see if true two way HD call setup is on the road map or just currently broken. Assuming I can fight my way to someone competent.
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Also. I have verified with multiple VZW and ATT customers. Calls from ATT > VZW turn up in HD. Calls VZW > ATT do NOT turn up in HD. I called VZW to question them. And the teir 2 support person I got was clueless and I didn't have time to argue the matter with her. I'll follow up with them later tonight and see if true two way HD call setup is on the road map or just currently broken. Assuming I can fight my way to someone competent.
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Knowing Verizon they probably turned that function off in all of their handsets and want customers to pay a premium
Update: I spoke to VZW support regarding it not working when calling ATT customers, But it working when ATT customers call us. They insisted HD calling doesn't work to ATT users. I explained the info they have in their script is out dated. And insisted they open an NRB ticket for me. Ticket Number #8466364 if anyone wants to open a ticket as well and reference mine.
Currently I have a Nexus 6p I use on AT&T. Last I checked ATT does not support HD voice / Volte for phones that are not branded by att or iphones. Anyone know if the news posted by @NickOlsen8390 will enable HD calling for those of using unlocked phones on att?
I'm going to guess it will not @jimmiekain
ATT still only supports HD voice on their small subset of handsets. One of the reasons I switched from ATT to Verizon when I got my N6P. When I switched at that time (They let me out of contact for it), They said they had no plans to support HD Voice/VOLTE on "BYOD" (Bring your own device)
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I'm going to guess it will not @jimmiekain
ATT still only supports HD voice on their small subset of handsets. One of the reasons I switched from ATT to Verizon when I got my N6P. When I switched at that time (They let me out of contact for it), They said they had no plans to support HD Voice/VOLTE on "BYOD" (Bring your own device)
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thanks. :crying:
Finally got an Update to my Verizon NRB ticket. They basically said they don't support call setup to any other carrier with the AMR-WB codec at this time, However they will accept it from any carrier that wants to send it. I suspect in the coming months this will chance as HD Voice begins to roll out between more and more carriers. Guess We'll just have to wait and see.
Interesting. Does I am not sure about cross network HD calls but I leave my Verizon Nexus 6P's enhanced calling feature off because I drop calls every time I switch from 4g to 3g or anything else. It's brutal while driving. Verizon has so much work to do to get that feature working properly.
The unfortunate part is that we can not access data while on a call with enhanced calling turned off. ?
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I just killed my Nexus and I'm not eligible for a discount with Verizon until 8/22. I'm looking at the S4, full price in my case, I guess (sigh!) Does anyone know if the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 comes with GSM unlocked? (I remember reading that the Verizon iPhone 5 does and can be used abroad by simply swapping a local SIM card.)
During my trial purchase on the Verizon website, it asked me if I wanted to keep the current SIM number (yes), and later if I wanted the phone implemented for worldwide GSM (do you think they mean through their own services, hence locked GSM, or open to any carrier abroad)?
Thanks for the input.
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I just killed my Nexus and I'm not eligible for a discount with Verizon until 8/22. I'm looking at the S4, full price in my case, I guess (sigh!) Does anyone know if the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 comes with GSM unlocked? (I remember reading that the Verizon iPhone 5 does and can be used abroad by simply swapping a local SIM card.)
During my trial purchase on the Verizon website, it asked me if I wanted to keep the current SIM number (yes), and later if I wanted the phone implemented for worldwide GSM (do you think they mean through their own services, hence locked GSM, or open to any carrier abroad)?
Thanks for the input.
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All you have to do is give them a call and let em know you will be traveling abroad, they will adjust your plan accordingly. I dunno if the S4 is global capable though, hardware wise.... Make sure you call them before using it abroad, failure to do so will most likely result in a massive roaming bill....
If you look on the hardware specs, it says its a Global Ready phone on Verizon's website. It has GSM also. I think it is possbile to put in a att SIM and go. Don't hold me to it though
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i do believe all verizon 4G LTE phones must come GSM unlocked out of box now, if im not mistaken.
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i do believe all verizon 4G LTE phones must come GSM unlocked out of box now, if im not mistaken.
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Yeah, I believe it's FCC required because of auction rules for the 700mhz band Verizon LTE is using.
That said, you may still need root to enable new APNs.
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Yeah, I believe it's FCC required because of auction rules for the 700mhz band Verizon LTE is using.
That said, you may still need root to enable new APNs.
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You needn't root，
it can support，GSM and wcdma carriers！！
i test a SIM card of China Unicom
it can edit APNS
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You needn't root，
it can support，GSM and wcdma carriers！！
i test a SIM card of China Unicom
it can edit APNS
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I appreciate if you show screenshot of APN setting. if possible also network screenshot.
For now all I know is you can get WorldWide plan from verizon and you basically will be paying to verizon but you will use that other carrier as an atena... Cool, but it's VERY EXPENSIVE. Calls internet everything. Is there a way to somewhat hack sgs 4 verizon to use it internationally without needing that stupid expensive plan.
The SiMs are very cheap and the phone plans are very cheap in Europe, sometimes it's even more profitable to buy an unlocked phone just to travel.
So, does anyone know yet how to hack it ? There was a way like that on SGS 3.
I upgraded on Verizon and then traveled to Europe on the same day. All was working well with Verizon in the US. I then put in a sim card I bought when I arrived, and it worked for calling as soon as it started (no changes required). The add apn setting was greyed out, but it worked anyway. I put in the appropriate apn settings and it now does mobile data, voice, and sms. I dont know about MMS, yet.
I did all this without root access, but I went ahead and did the root procedure this morning.
I have to go to another country in 2 weeks, and I may get a different sim. If so, I will update after that.
I do have a persistant warning in the status bar telling me I am using a non-Verizon sim, but no other ill effects.
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I upgraded on Verizon and then traveled to Europe on the same day. All was working well with Verizon in the US. I then put in a sim card I bought when I arrived, and it worked for calling as soon as it started (no changes required). The add apn setting was greyed out, but it worked anyway. I put in the appropriate apn settings and it now does mobile data, voice, and sms. I dont know about MMS, yet.
I did all this without root access, but I went ahead and did the root procedure this morning.
I have to go to another country in 2 weeks, and I may get a different sim. If so, I will update after that.
I do have a persistant warning in the status bar telling me I am using a non-Verizon sim, but no other ill effects.
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Hey, thanks for info. Are you using Verizons World Data plan ? If not, when you come back to US is it possible that you will get a pretty large bill for using outside of US ? What type of internet are you recieving, 3g, HSPA or maybe Edge ? What countries have you tried this in yet ?
Also where did you get the phone, pre order or in store?
Thank you, I'm asking so many questions because I really wanted to get an upgrade but I will be flying to Europe for this whole summer and I thought it wouldnt worth it right now.
No, I am not using Verizon's plan (as far as I know). I have a local prepaid sim and phone number with prepaid data on a gsm network (T-Mobile) and so I do not receive calls on my US Verizon number - they go straight to Google voice answering service. I get a H+ symbol for data when I am in an area with good reception, and 3g elsewhere. So far, I have only tried it around Berlin.
I bought the phone in the store.
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Hey, thanks for info. Are you using Verizons World Data plan ? If not, when you come back to US is it possible that you will get a pretty large bill for using outside of US ? What type of internet are you recieving, 3g, HSPA or maybe Edge ? What countries have you tried this in yet ?
Also where did you get the phone, pre order or in store?
Thank you, I'm asking so many questions because I really wanted to get an upgrade but I will be flying to Europe for this whole summer and I thought it wouldnt worth it right now.
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No, I am not using Verizon's plan (as far as I know). I have a local prepaid sim and phone number with prepaid data on a gsm network (T-Mobile) and so I do not receive calls on my US Verizon number - they go straight to Google voice answering service. I get a H+ symbol for data when I am in an area with good reception, and 3g elsewhere. So far, I have only tried it around Berlin.
I bought the phone in the store.
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Did you buy your phone on contract ?
Yes. Upgraded on contract.
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verizon galaxy s4 usage in europe
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No, I am not using Verizon's plan (as far as I know). I have a local prepaid sim and phone number with prepaid data on a gsm network (T-Mobile) and so I do not receive calls on my US Verizon number - they go straight to Google voice answering service. I get a H+ symbol for data when I am in an area with good reception, and 3g elsewhere. So far, I have only tried it around Berlin.
I bought the phone in the store.
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Hello, I saw your posts which were very helpful about verizon galaxy s4 usage in europe. I have a few more questions if you have time. On which operators and countries were you able to get 3g speeds with verizon s4. Thank you.
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No, I am not using Verizon's plan (as far as I know). I have a local prepaid sim and phone number with prepaid data on a gsm network (T-Mobile) and so I do not receive calls on my US Verizon number - they go straight to Google voice answering service. I get a H+ symbol for data when I am in an area with good reception, and 3g elsewhere. So far, I have only tried it around Berlin.
I bought the phone in the store.
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Hello, I saw your posts which were very helpful about verizon galaxy s4 usage in europe. I have a few more questions if you have time. On which operators and countries were you able to get 3g speeds with verizon s4. Thank you.
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I am asking because i need to know if it will work on a country where the 3g frequency is 2100mhz.
I currently have a Droid DNA through Verizon and would like to switch to Straight Talk. I see options for both AT&T and T-Mobile compatible SIM cards, and am curious which one I should go with. I live in the Houston area. I prefer not to have to cut the card but it's not a deal breaker.
In my area AT&T has much wider and more reliable data coverage. I was often on edge everywhere in my hometown while on T-Mobile. This may not be the case for Houston. Just test drive both networks for a month each.
Ah, excellent point. Should be cheap enough to try them both. Thanks!
I actually work in Electronics at Walmart and deal with this all the time. Straight Talk will not move 4G LTE phones to their service. They aren't compatible and do not have the agreements with carriers for LTE access. If you read the CDMA/GSM bring your own phone package that includes the SIM cards it says in bold writing LTE Phones are not compatible. The DNA would not be able to be used on Straight Talk because it is a LTE phone. Straight Talk has a list of approved devices on their website. Because you do have to provide your phones IMEI they will know it is a LTE phone and deny your request to activate the phone on their services.
Kutster, I hate to correct you but I actually did successfully connect my Droid DNA using the Walmart SIM card. Now in my area it was actually called FamilyMobile, and run by T-Mobile. I purchased a SIM card from Walmart, took it home, plugged it in, set up an account, and it worked. Granted, you don't get LTE, but it does work and is mega cheap ($40/mo unlimited). I ended up cancelling and taking it back, simply because the internet was very slow, and the coverage wasn't very good in my area (T-Mobile sucks in my area). I do want to stress though that it definitely does work! I think I'll try AT&T GoPhone next.
The important thing to remember is this phone (the DNA) has all the radios necessary to connect to just about anybody but Sprint's network. Don't always believe what the companies tell ya.
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Kutster, I hate to correct you but I actually did successfully connect my Droid DNA using the Walmart SIM card. Now in my area it was actually called FamilyMobile, and run by T-Mobile. I purchased a SIM card from Walmart, took it home, plugged it in, set up an account, and it worked. Granted, you don't get LTE, but it does work and is mega cheap ($40/mo unlimited). I ended up cancelling and taking it back, simply because the internet was very slow, and the coverage wasn't very good in my area (T-Mobile sucks in my area). I do want to stress though that it definitely does work! I think I'll try AT&T GoPhone next.
The important thing to remember is this phone (the DNA) has all the radios necessary to connect to just about anybody but Sprint's network. Don't always believe what the companies tell ya.
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I currently have a Droid DNA through Verizon and would like to switch to Straight Talk
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See that's where your terms and confusion of prepaid comes into play. Of course Family Mobile worked they don't have restrictions on LTE especially since Family Mobile is powered by T-mobile. Straight Talk which is the company I was referring to and the company you were referring to does has limitations on LTE phones, and will NOT allow any LTE phone to to brought to their service. This has to do with they license the use of multiple carriers towers.
Trust me I am not trying to be rude, but I honestly deal with this on a daily basis. You know how many Straight Talk bring your own phone kits I have had to refund because customers buy them for their nice Verizon LTE smartphones? It doesn't work. I am telling you from my experience and my countless hours on the phone with Straight Talk reps and on their website, what their policy is on LTE phones. I beg you to go to Walmart and look at the Straight Talk CDMA/GSM BYOP (Bring Your Own Phone) kits that they sell for $60. In the middle of that package on the front it says something along the lines of "LTE Phones are not Compatible." Which like it reads means you cannot bring over a LTE phone to Straight Talk.
AT&T prepaid I would venture to guess would work, but I can't remember if AT&T is as picky as Verizon is about what smartphones get put on their prepaid plans. You would have to call and find out.
So once again, please keep in mind that every prepaid carrier is different, use different towers, and different policies. Just because it worked on one does not mean a different company has policies that differ or block that same practice.
I didn't realize StraightTalk and FamilyMobile were different. I just assumed that when I went to Walmart it was whatever they were using. I see now that StraightTalk is AT&T and FamilyMobile is T-Mobile. I only had the option for FamilyMobile at my Walmart. Thanks for the clarification.
I'm not going to disagree, but I will say that the FamilyMobile website also said my specific phone was not eligible, but it did in fact work. So to anyone else reading this, YMMV. Considering Walmart takes the card back for a full refund, I don't see a problem in at least attempting it (except that employees such as yourself have to deal with it ). It makes sense to me that there's no way for the carrier to enforce specific phones when they are SIM card based. So long as your phone has the radios that carrier operates on, it should work. My guess is that the LTE phones statement on the package is in reference to the fact that you won't get LTE speeds with that network.
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See that's where your terms and confusion of prepaid comes into play. Of course Family Mobile worked they don't have restrictions on LTE especially since Family Mobile is powered by T-mobile. Straight Talk which is the company I was referring to and the company you were referring to does has limitations on LTE phones, and will NOT allow any LTE phone to to brought to their service. This has to do with they license the use of multiple carriers towers.
Trust me I am not trying to be rude, but I honestly deal with this on a daily basis. You know how many Straight Talk bring your own phone kits I have had to refund because customers buy them for their nice Verizon LTE smartphones? It doesn't work. I am telling you from my experience and my countless hours on the phone with Straight Talk reps and on their website, what their policy is on LTE phones. I beg you to go to Walmart and look at the Straight Talk CDMA/GSM BYOP (Bring Your Own Phone) kits that they sell for $60. In the middle of that package on the front it says something along the lines of "LTE Phones are not Compatible." Which like it reads means you cannot bring over a LTE phone to Straight Talk.
AT&T prepaid I would venture to guess would work, but I can't remember if AT&T is as picky as Verizon is about what smartphones get put on their prepaid plans. You would have to call and find out.
So once again, please keep in mind that every prepaid carrier is different, use different towers, and different policies. Just because it worked on one does not mean a different company has policies that differ or block that same practice.
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Being an an LTE device wouldn't matter in this case since the LTE radio will only work on the CDMA side of the phone and with Verizon's LTE. It has UMTS and Straight Talk already confirmed with me the phone would get 3G while on their network. There's not a magic way of them detecting an LTE phone ( one that works on a CDMA carrier mind you) and flipping the off switch. The 2G and 3G networks are available for AT&T and T-Mobile regardless of which prepaid carrier you use.
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Being an an LTE device wouldn't matter in this case since the LTE radio will only work on the CDMA side of the phone and with Verizon's LTE. It has UMTS and Straight Talk already confirmed with me the phone would get 3G while on their network. There's not a magic way of them detecting an LTE phone ( one that works on a CDMA carrier mind you) and flipping the off switch. The 2G and 3G networks are available for AT&T and T-Mobile regardless of which prepaid carrier you use.
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Im not going to argue about it. When you go to activate a BYOP on Straight Talk you have to input the IMEI, which does tell Straight Talk if the phone is LTE capable or not and if it isn't eligible it will not allow you to activate the phone. Period. I hate done it and tried it. It isn't like ATT where you put in the SIM card and it is activated. You activate the phone IMEI and SIM card # with Straight Talk. That is how it works with BYOP.
@Impala Im glad you had luck getting Family Mobile working.
Uh, I'm currently using Straight Talk on my DNA with full HSPA+ capability, as are many others.
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Uh, I'm currently using Straight Talk on my DNA with full HSPA+ capability, as are many others.
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Exactly, ours is an LTE device so please tell us why it certainly does work on Straight Talk when you claim it doesn't.
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Exactly, ours is an LTE device so please tell us why it certainly does work on Straight Talk when you claim it doesn't.
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Also, Straight Talk just got support for AT&T LTE. So they're going to have to accept LTE devices?
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Yeah I just read up on that. I wonder if the DNA 700mhz band will work. I checked online and it shows AT&T as using the 700 bands as well (a,b,c) I'm assuming the new Sim they are selling enables the LTE?
Can anyone with the new Sim confirm LTE connectivity?
EDIT : looks like at&t is band 17 and Verizon is 13. The FCC is pushing for interoperability within the upper 700 but it looks as if the chipset controls which band LTE operates off of...damn. It would be sweet to get LTE on an unlimited prepaid plan.
Interesting. I wonder if GoPhone or anyone else that's AT&T related would work LTE wise?
So are you guys able to use gsm networks with the 2.06 firmware?
I'm using net10 (att) with my DNA with 2.04 firmware and I'm hesitant to update to 2.06 until I can confirm that the 2.06 update keeps gsm completely unlocked?
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So are you guys able to use gsm networks with the 2.06 firmware?
I'm using net10 (att) with my DNA with 2.04 firmware and I'm hesitant to update to 2.06 until I can confirm that the 2.06 update keeps gsm completely unlocked?
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I'm on 2.06 using a straight talk sim I can't get LTE speeds or even my signal to say LTE but I get H+ and max out at about 8mbps
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I'm on 2.06 using a straight talk sim I can't get LTE speeds or even my signal to say LTE but I get H+ and max out at about 8mbps
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Me too. Straight Talk claims LTE works for unlocked AT&T smartphones.
Hey everyone, I'm totally new to Straight Talk and GSM and the DNA being used somewhere besides Verizon. (I'm a long time VZ customer but read Android Police daily and am familiar with all things Android.) Anyways, I'm pretty clear on using the phone on Straight Talk, getting MMS and all that, my only question is, how do you go about getting OTA's? Since the phone technically is a Verizon phone, updates would come from them. While on Straight Talk can I throw a Verizon sim card in the phone, download the OTA. Then after completing the update, put back in my AT&T sim card. Or does HTC offer OTA downloads online?
How do you guys go about updating your phone? (OTA's obviously apply to non-rooted devices. I may or may not root it.)
Thanks for your help!
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Hey everyone, I'm totally new to Straight Talk and GSM and the DNA being used somewhere besides Verizon. (I'm a long time VZ customer but read Android Police daily and am familiar with all things Android.) Anyways, I'm pretty clear on using the phone on Straight Talk, getting MMS and all that, my only question is, how do you go about getting OTA's? Since the phone technically is a Verizon phone, updates would come from them. While on Straight Talk can I throw a Verizon sim card in the phone, download the OTA. Then after completing the update, put back in my AT&T sim card. Or does HTC offer OTA downloads online?
How do you guys go about updating your phone? (OTA's obviously apply to non-rooted devices. I may or may not root it.)
Thanks for your help!
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I just s-off my phone using moonshine and then there are some bone stock roms to flash. Apart from that I'm not sure, before soff I was looking for an ruu to flash but couldn't find an updated one
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I just s-off my phone using moonshine and then there are some bone stock roms to flash. Apart from that I'm not sure, before soff I was looking for an ruu to flash but couldn't find an updated one
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Thanks ac! That sounds like something I could do. I'm not too familiar with s-off, moonshine or HTC (the phone is my wife's. I'm a nexus guy) but I may have to look into that. Anybody else out there with any ideas?
The M9 is the first HTC phone I have ever owned that does not work in Canada, at all.
The evo, evo 3d, m7, and m8 all worked flawlessly in canada. The m9 gets no signal. I called support and they also sent me to international support, and neither was able to get it working. Obviously roaming is enabled, as well as international voice. Still no signal whatsoever. I then went into *#*#4636#*#* menu and tried changing the preferred network type to every possible option. On the GSM options, the phone would actually get a signal, but whenever you attempt to make a call it just drops immediately.
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The M9 is the first HTC phone I have ever owned that does not work in Canada, at all.
The evo, evo 3d, m7, and m8 all worked flawlessly in canada. The m9 gets no signal. I called support and they also sent me to international support, and neither was able to get it working. Obviously roaming is enabled, as well as international voice. Still no signal whatsoever. I then went into *#*#4636#*#* menu and tried changing the preferred network type to every possible option. On the GSM options, the phone would actually get a signal, but whenever you attempt to make a call it just drops immediately.
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interesting... i will be up there next weekend. I will report back to see if i have the same issue. We can get a second opinion on this.
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interesting... i will be up there next weekend. I will report back to see if i have the same issue. We can get a second opinion on this.
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Found this info over on s4gru:
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...rock-out-with-their-flagships-for-the-season/
the One M9 was not tested, thus is not authorized for domestic GSM/W-CDMA bands. Rabid phone unlockers under the new Sprint domestic unlocking policy, consider yourselves forewarned.
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interesting... i will be up there next weekend. I will report back to see if i have the same issue. We can get a second opinion on this.
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CONFIRMED. The Sprint m9 lacks the neccessary radio bands to work in Canada! The more I use this phone the more I hate it.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/6910-htc-one-m9-user-thread/?view=findpost&p=418575
Vis a vis wireless, traveling to Canada has now become almost no different from traveling to the UK. You need a GSM/W-CDMA capable handset -- because Bell and Telus were basically asshats in preemptively ditching CDMA2000 for GSM/W-CDMA, circa 2008. My understanding is that the CDMA2000 network now is almost entirely shut down, and Sprint has removed CDMA1X/EV-DO roaming from its latest PRLs.
Regardless, if you care about RF capabilities in your flagship handset, do not take anything for granted. You should always read our FCC OET article before making a purchase. And we typically publish within a day or two of the FCC OET authorization going online, thus usually weeks before the handset hits stores.
I have to assume that you did not read our article on the HTC One M9. We devoted an entire paragraph to its lack of domestic GSM/W-CDMA bands (i.e. GSM 850/1900 and bands 2/4/5 W-CDMA).
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...rock-out-with-their-flagships-for-the-season/
AJ
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CONFIRMED. The Sprint m9 lacks the neccessary radio bands to work in Canada! The more I use this phone the more I hate it.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/6910-htc-one-m9-user-thread/?view=findpost&p=418575
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I would have to assume that no one on the planet aside from him and two other nerds read their article on the HTC M9. How many people read the dry ass articles of s4Gru? I used to be a member back when I was tracking LTE implementation for Sprint in Sacramento but I haven't looked back since. I don't like paying just to read a forum site about back hauls, transponders and flux capacitors. Sh!t I could barely suffer through the GSM/M-CDMA#4636#* in this thread.
Bummer the phone don't work in Canada though.
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CONFIRMED. The Sprint m9 lacks the neccessary radio bands to work in Canada! The more I use this phone the more I hate it.
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So it's HTC/Sprint's fault you didn't do your homework or think to ask them if the Sprint M9 variant could roam in a foreign country?
Sell the damn thing on swappa already.
It's Sprint's fault for selling a brand new flagship phone that can't roam in Canada. That's just plain stupid on Sprint's part, and they really should have known better.
I 1000% guarantee that if you were to walk into a Sprint store and ask about that new HTC One M9 and if you'd be able to roam in Canada, you would receive a "yes" answer every time. They'd even tell you about Sprint's cool discount roaming plans for Canada. Do not blame someone for not "doing their homework" when really only people with an intimate knowledge of the situation and who read s4gru (0.1% of Sprint's customers, if that) would know about this. This is on Sprint.
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It's Sprint's fault for selling a brand new flagship phone that can't roam in Canada. That's just plain stupid on Sprint's part, and they really should have known better.
I 1000% guarantee that if you were to walk into a Sprint store and ask about that new HTC One M9 and if you'd be able to roam in Canada, you would receive a "yes" answer every time. They'd even tell you about Sprint's cool discount roaming plans for Canada. Do not blame someone for not "doing their homework" when really only people with an intimate knowledge of the situation and who read s4gru (0.1% of Sprint's customers, if that) would know about this. This is on Sprint.
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Damn thing won't even roam Data in NH, let alone Canada.
kwolf said:
It's Sprint's fault for selling a brand new flagship phone that can't roam in Canada. That's just plain stupid on Sprint's part, and they really should have known better.
I 1000% guarantee that if you were to walk into a Sprint store and ask about that new HTC One M9 and if you'd be able to roam in Canada, you would receive a "yes" answer every time. They'd even tell you about Sprint's cool discount roaming plans for Canada. Do not blame someone for not "doing their homework" when really only people with an intimate knowledge of the situation and who read s4gru (0.1% of Sprint's customers, if that) would know about this. This is on Sprint.
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I retract my comment - (though both OP and I are on S4GRU and have been for some time) - as I just got off a chat with Sprint Worldwide support where they said the M9 is an international phone entirely capable of roaming voice and data in Canada. I'm asking on S4GRU how Sprint can make that claim when OPs experience is obviously different.
Wondering if this is all related to the issues the phone is having with data in general...
It's roaming just fine in Canada. Check the screen shots.
I am in Toronto now.
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I am in Toronto now.
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I guess it's time to remove the confirmed tag then.
lol...I was in several countries in the Caribbean 10 days ago & roamed np...yes, not in Ca but verified WCDMA worked fine
So... not confirmed that there is no Canada roaming. That's a relief if it does actually work in Canada. I would not want to travel up there just to find out I can't use my phone.
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It's roaming just fine in Canada. Check the screen shots.
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This is a Sprint phone? I wasn't aware that Sprint roams on CAN Rogers.
jkcarp94 said:
This is a Sprint phone? I wasn't aware that Sprint roams on CAN Rogers.
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Yes, this is Sprint phone.
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Yes, this is Sprint phone.
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OP's contention was that it would show roaming but he was unable to complete a call - I'm guessing your experience was different?
Were you able to make/receive calls and use data?
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OP's contention was that it would show roaming but he was unable to complete a call - I'm guessing your experience was different?
Were you able to make/receive calls and use data?
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Yes, I was able to make and receive phone calls. I was also able to send and receive texts as well as use data.
m03sizlak said:
CONFIRMED. The Sprint m9 lacks the neccessary radio bands to work in Canada! The more I use this phone the more I hate it.
Untrue. It can roam in Canada.
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It's Sprint's fault for selling a brand new flagship phone that can't roam in Canada. That's just plain stupid on Sprint's part, and they really should have known better.
I 1000% guarantee that if you were to walk into a Sprint store and ask about that new HTC One M9 and if you'd be able to roam in Canada, you would receive a "yes" answer every time. They'd even tell you about Sprint's cool discount roaming plans for Canada. Do not blame someone for not "doing their homework" when really only people with an intimate knowledge of the situation and who read s4gru (0.1% of Sprint's customers, if that) would know about this. This is on Sprint.
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It can roam in Canada. Was just there.
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I am in Toronto now.
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I was also there two weeks ago. I meant to post back because I mentioned id be going there and I roamed perfectly fine.
Looked into Sprints Community Forum to see if they will support this device and it looks like they will not. I am getting this phone and it looks like I'll be leaving Spint.
Here is the thread to the forum. https://community.sprint.com/baw/message/1052157#1052157 Wanted to share in case anyone else is getting it in hopes that Sprint would support it.
Sprint generally tries to avoid factory unlocked phones so their bloatware stays in place.
Yep, Sprint has strict control over what is allowed access to their network. While the A7 has all the bands for Sprint usage, ZTE has said that they're working with Sprint (and Verizon) to get it approved for their networks.
I wouldn't bother too much with what Sprint_Jeffrey & co. said, they are probably in a similar position to the people within ZTE who claimed just days before the boot-loader unlock announcement that they would not be allowing unlocking of the boot-loader. Until an announcement is made by the Sprint people responsible for such things reps like Sprint_Jeffrey & co. are as much in the dark as the rest of us.
What I've heard about this phone and other unlocked phones with Verizon and Sprint support built into the hardware is.
From official channels you will get no support for the device and you can't go to the store and activate the phone.
But most of the time if you take an existing sim from your current phone and pop it in the new unlocked phone it will work just fine. It's worth a shot before leaving sprint if you like the existing service you have.
Unless you were already planning to leave for the greener pasture of GSM service, so many more device options available which is why i only consider GSM carriers myself.
Don' t know about Sprint but swapping in an active SIM from Verizon does NOT work. Been trying for three weeks. I am going to AT&T.
jaseman said:
Don' t know about Sprint but swapping in an active SIM from Verizon does NOT work. Been trying for three weeks. I am going to AT&T.
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So you are disagreeing with the, probably, 50 posts I've seen with Verizon working on the Axon 7? I'm getting mine delivered today and will be trying it out tonight. I'm expecting it to work.
Eh, you won't miss Sprint. You could probably go with a cheaper service like Cricket and have better coverage, anyway. Verizon is the only CDMA carrier worth using, but you pay out the bum for the pleasure.
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Don' t know about Sprint but swapping in an active SIM from Verizon does NOT work. Been trying for three weeks. I am going to AT&T.
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Works with my active Verizon SIM fine. Full bars Band 4 LTE, full bars CDMA, no roaming indicator (yet).
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Works with my active Verizon SIM fine. Full bars Band 4 LTE, full bars CDMA, no roaming indicator (yet).
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I tried again with Verizon and it is a no go. I hope those of you who are stuck with Verizon can get things worked out. I suppose Verizon will start to play nice in due time. I, however, have moved on to AT&T pre-paid. Took about 10 minutes for them to get my Axon 7 working properly. There were other ZTE devices in the store also. At least one other cell phone and a couple of other items. So they are already familiar with ZTE and had no trouble getting things setup correctly. Bye-Bye Verizon!
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I tried again with Verizon and it is a no go. I hope those of you who are stuck with Verizon can get things worked out. I suppose Verizon will start to play nice in due time. I, however, have moved on to AT&T pre-paid. Took about 10 minutes for them to get my Axon 7 working properly. There were other ZTE devices in the store also. At least one other cell phone and a couple of other items. So they are already familiar with ZTE and had no trouble getting things setup correctly. Bye-Bye Verizon!
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Did you make sure to use the SIM1 slot instead of the SIM2/microSD slot? Only SIM1 is CDMA enabled.
I don't know why Sprint and Verizon are dicking around. Moto G4 and Google Nexus phones can run on their networks why not ZTE Avon?
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Eh, you won't miss Sprint. You could probably go with a cheaper service like Cricket and have better coverage, anyway. Verizon is the only CDMA carrier worth using, but you pay out the bum for the pleasure.
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Not if you have RingPlus. I have 5 RingPlus free monthly lines each having 6000 mins/ text/ MB waiting to be ESN swapped out to better equipments
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Not if you have RingPlus. I have 5 RingPlus free monthly lines each having 6000 mins/ text/ MB waiting to be ESN swapped out to better equipments
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I have RingPlus with a "free" ($15 initial top-up) 1400 plan. And it's great that you have 5 nice plans, but let's be honest, R+ isn't the same as it was last year. Plans like that don't come up much (if ever) anymore and when they do, the hoops make it a real PITA. I'll be surprised if R+ is even around in another year.
And in any case, it's still Sprint and Sprint's network is literally the worst you can use. It's great if you never travel and don't need service outside of cities, but "free" is the only case in which I would use their network. I use R+ with my Moto E as a streaming music player when I'm on the beach or out mowing or doing something else where the phone might get trashed.
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Did you make sure to use the SIM1 slot instead of the SIM2/microSD slot? Only SIM1 is CDMA enabled.
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Yes, all attempts were in SIM slot number 1 only. Constant roaming. On AT&T now and all is working great for less money. No brainer if you can do it.
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Yes, all attempts were in SIM slot number 1 only. Constant roaming. On AT&T now and all is working great for less money. No brainer if you can do it.
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Er, constant roaming is normal... it's one of the many bugs that the A7 has on Verizon right now. Just had to check "data when roaming" and you would have been good to go.
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Yep, Sprint has strict control over what is allowed access to their network. While the A7 has all the bands for Sprint usage, ZTE has said that they're working with Sprint (and Verizon) to get it approved for their networks.
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Sprint locks their RUIM/SIM cards to the MEID of the device. Verizon does not engage in this 'anti-consumer' practice.
So can I just put a Sprint Note 4 sim in the Axon 7 and it will work?
I switched from sprint to cricket when I bought the axon 7. Got a good deal for signing up for auto pay and the signal has been wayyy better (in Pittsburgh). I drive all around town for work and only ran into one (almost) dead spot.
Active iPhone Sprint SIM doesn't work in Axon 7
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So can I just put a Sprint Note 4 sim in the Axon 7 and it will work?
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No this almost surely won't work. Though it's hard to be 100% sure as Sprint is so finicky with their different SIM card types...my Sprint phone is an iPhone 6S so perhaps the SIM isn't as friendly to Android phones (which is ridiculous but Sprint really does differentiate Android vs. iOS SIMs, which I found out the hard way)...
But I tried anyway with my FreedomPop Sprint SIM...below are some pictures of what happened. The Axon 7 showed a signal and a 4G/LTE icon, but the internet connection didn't work (it just shows a constant upload indication) and there was no 1X signal either when I checked LTE Discovery. So it seems that Sprint is effectively blocking the Axon 7 (as it would any non-Sprint MEID'd phone I believe) from making a data connection or making calls/texts.
It's a shame...Verizon doesn't do this...my Verizon SIM works great in the Axon 7...this is purely a Sprint limitation it seems, which is funny as they're the most desperate of the four major carriers and yet make it nearly impossible to do business with them even though we have a perfectly viable Sprint phone in the Axon 7.
Sprint binds the imei, icc id and phone number to the account. Everything has to match or you get no service.
Sprint is dead, move to a different carrier.
For those using your Z3TC as a phone - what carrier are you currently on?
Shortly after I bought the Z3TC, T-Mobile suddenly classified it as a tablet and I ported to AT&T. I ended up on Cricket for awhile and then MetroPCS. I recently took advantage of Mintsim's Black Friday deal. Mintsim operates on the T-Mobile network and is essentially a Costco approach to wireless; with taxes I paid about $81 up front for six months of talk, text, and 10GBs of LTE data each month. It is really an unbeatable deal.
So anyways, tonight I finally got around to activating my Mintsim account, and porting my number from MetroPCS. (UPDATE I got my account number wrong when porting, didn't realize the port didn't go thru, got that sorted out and data now works...I can now recommend Mintsim). And I can talk and text but...data does not work. I get prompted to 'sign in' to the network and forwarded to a T-Mobile webpage telling me that my data plan is incompatible with my device. Bummer...
So now, chances are I need to port elsewhere asap. Any ideas? AT&Ts network is less than ideal, MetroPCS isn't the greatest value out there.
The other option is to switch to the Samsung T719, but...would it be a big improvement? Z3TC is getting old, but it works well for me and there aren't many other true phablets out there...
I wanted to add that my first post was premature. It turns out my port never went through properly. I'll report back - if Mintsim works it is by far the best value out there.
Up and running. I am stupid, so far Mintsim rocks.
I don't know what you are talking about but I still love but Xperiaz3tc
So your Z3 Tablet Compact is working calls text and data on T-Mobile's network on a MVNO ?
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So your Z3 Tablet Compact is working calls text and data on T-Mobile's network on a MVNO ?
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