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Hi!
Soon i'm of for a vacation and i'm wondering if my HD2 can be damaged by the outblow of my AC in the car? The holder is fitted onto the outblow. I need to have it placed where i can see it because of my use of the GPS.
The device is freezing cold when i have driven a couple of miles!
I think it's just good for the device, or am i wrong here?
I wouldn't do it... Only a matter of time before the quick temp changes causes a dry connection...
Just get one of these They are solid and cheap...
I've been doing the same thing with mine for about 3 months so far.
But I do have a silicon cover on it, and its only the top 1" or so that is in the air path.
Peewees said:
I've been doing the same thing with mine for about 3 months so far.
But I do have a silicon cover on it, and its only the top 1" or so that is in the air path.
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I do the same thing, but , I usually let the phone lay on the console in the cool car for a while before I just jab it into the AC stream ...
you also run the risk of condensation between the layers of the screen. used to see it a lot when i sold sat navs,, clap cold device meets warm humid house, or vice versa, warm humid phone from sweaty pocket suddenly drops 25 degrees.
probably be ok, but i wouldn't do it.
Can't you turn off flow from vents individually?
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Can't you turn off flow from vents individually?
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Thank you all for you answers!
And yes i can shut them off indivudually and will do so until i've moved the holder to a better place.
Thanks again!
ToddeSwe said:
Hi!
Soon i'm of for a vacation and i'm wondering if my HD2 can be damaged by the outblow of my AC in the car? The holder is fitted onto the outblow. I need to have it placed where i can see it because of my use of the GPS.
The device is freezing cold when i have driven a couple of miles!
I think it's just good for the device, or am i wrong here?
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I've been doing the same thing since at least 2002 never had an issue with it.
If you're worried, just close the vent behind the device.
Hi -- my wife's razr took a two-second swim in the toilet. We dried it, blow-dried it on a medium setting, then plopped in it a bag of rice for two days. It appears to now be functioning fine, except that it doesn't seem to be charging, even though the phone indicates that it is charging. The level stays stuck on twenty. It's discharged down to 15, then charged back up to 20, but no further. It doesn't seem like a hardware problem to me, it seems like a faulty battery read, though I of course could be mistaken. The USB connection works fine -- I've transferred all the files off the sd card. Any thoughts? Would a factory reset perhaps reset the battery stats (the phone is unrooted)? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
Don't know exactly, but isn't a factory reset just the wipe of all installed data and the return to delivery state? So a "damaged" battery wouldn't be "repared" ?
But have you just tried another battery watching app? maybe this will show the true battery life? than you could be serious that it's maybe just the system app and do a factory reset / reinstall the system battery watching apk?
I've already done the factory reset and will charge overnight and see what happens. I will install a third party app though, great idea, thanks...
just let us know the result
want to know how water proof my razr is
You could try one of the battery calibration apps on the market. They simply delete the .bin file that stores battery information.
Although, I think your battery may have shorted out potentially.
Much easier solution, works on iphones every time.
(iPhones are water damaged 100% of the time when we get them for repairs, whether they've been in water or not)
Get electronics cleaner with oil, spray a small amount in the usb port and stick the usb plug in and out a few times.
Now try charging and see if it works again.
I will try this as it still isn't working. Thanks...
Shadowdancer -- are you saying this works in this situation, where the phone says it's charging but in reality it's only charging at a super minuscule rate?
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Shadowdancer -- are you saying this works in this situation, where the phone says it's charging but in reality it's only charging at a super minuscule rate?
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Yup, virtually anything can be solved with electrical cleaner and a hard reboot on the iphones.
It solves problems with emergency charging mode that stays for 24 hours.
It solves the "This device is not supported" when trying to charge.
Also solves problems flashing the iphones with new firmware.
I also fixed one or two other brand of phones with this, but micro usb is a lot less sensitive to bad connections.
The oil also protects from wear, as the oxidation has removed the protective coating. Which is what causes the charging problems.
If that won't work though, I'd say pop the lid and clean it carefully. You won't get any warranty things through unfortunately.
Tried the electrical cleaner, it didn't seem to help matters. I called a Motorola repair facility, and they'll replace the battery for $85. I suppose it's worth a shot, though if it's not charging (even though it's still indicating that it is), I guess it could be for other reasons than a bad battery.
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Tried the electrical cleaner, it didn't seem to help matters. I called a Motorola repair facility, and they'll replace the battery for $85. I suppose it's worth a shot, though if it's not charging (even though it's still indicating that it is), I guess it could be for other reasons than a bad battery.
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Well that sucks, but I guess it might work if you don't want to tear the back off yourself.
That assumes the battery to be the only thing not treated with whatever water repellent they used.
Just tried to get the phone repaired, the circuit on the board that charges the phone is corroded. Not surprised, but if anyone out there considers their phone "waterproof," well, I wouldn't.
normally you should put your phone in a pot, put some rice on it. Cook it at low temp with no oil for exactly 1:50min. Your phone will sustain no water damage.
I won't get into detail why you put rice on it, some people use salt but I wouldn't risk it for a chocolate biscuit.
PS : only use these methods when slam dunking your phone into pond/ river/bath tub/when attempting to flush your phone down the toilet wanting to get an insurance pay out/ dropping your phone in an aquarium.
i actually had this happen to me VERY early this morning. I was having problems with it rebooting it self quite often. I shook it to get the water out. About an hour later it started to operate normally.
I just was reading that you can take the back cover off (voids the warrenty but Im rooted so... ) so I did that to run a fhair dryeer on it at cool/warm to remove excess water. There was no water in the unit. even the little strip that the have with the xxx on it to test if it has been droped in water was untouched.
Love this phone!!!!!
I have read great things about the Bheestie Bag. I have no idea what the name is about, but I read an online article about them that was very favorable.
SallyC said:
I have read great things about the Bheestie Bag. I have no idea what the name is about, but I read an online article about them that was very favorable.
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It's a bag full of silicate balls, pretty much the stuff you get in those tiny white packets with harddrives, clothes and shoes etc.
You can get big bags of this at virtually any allround store, moisture out, "damprid" and all kinds of brands. It's a strongly moisture absorbent powder.
Btw, I could be called insane, but I usually treat my phone with "clear vue" and a color less shoe shine pad- (It contains silicone oil and some more moisture repellant.
I do this once a week.
ed: btw, you can get these blue silicate balls with ultra absorbent cat litter, 20$ buys you 10+ litres.
Yes, and they are reusable until the blue beads turn grey. They are supposed to be 700% more effective than rice. I've never needed it but bought one just in case after reading the Amazon reviews.
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normally you should put your phone in a pot, put some rice on it. Cook it at low temp with no oil for exactly 1:50min. Your phone will sustain no water damage.
I won't get into detail why you put rice on it, some people use salt but I wouldn't risk it for a chocolate biscuit.
PS : only use these methods when slam dunking your phone into pond/ river/bath tub/when attempting to flush your phone down the toilet wanting to get an insurance pay out/ dropping your phone in an aquarium.
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I have heard of putting your phone in the oven on the lowest setting possible. Do you think that is something that would work?
MischiefsMommy said:
I have heard of putting your phone in the oven on the lowest setting possible. Do you think that is something that would work?
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If you have a thermometer that you can put inside first, make damn sure it doesn't go over 60 c (140 f)
If it's digital then you can see how much it goes up and down, if it even sniffs at around 70 then you can't use your oven.
If you decide to do it, put it on a piece of cardboard paper at 50 degrees C
for 15 minutes or so.
Thanks for telling me that. I thought the person who told me that was crazy. And no it was nobody from this forum. ;-)
Hey guys,
I went out on a limb and bought the OWL car charger+dock for my DNA.
There is a bunch of discussion on the item here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029734 along with plenty of pictures.
I wanted to let you guys know some specifics for the DNA:
1. The phone fits perfectly into the clip. I don't have any cases, so I can't test that, but naked the phone fits like a glove and is very secure, even upside down.
2. Even the "second generation" of charger still does not put out enough juice for the DNA, even with the phone at idle.
I have emailed Moon and will update this thread when I hear back from him. I am thinking the problem might have something to do with the controller inside the charger. It switches to red (charging) momentarily when the phone is inserted, but then switches back to green (full).
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Update 1: Moon has emailed back already to assure me that if the charger doesn't work, he will do what it takes to make it right.
I am hoping we can figure out a way to make the phone work in the charger, since I love the design and the convenience of Qi...
awesome! I have been wondering if it works for our phone since I saw the post you linked above about a week ago. I emailed moon about it, but he was unsure. I'm glad that someone confirmed what I have been wondering. Thanks again
I'm also looking forward to more info on this. Going through the website I couldn't quite follow if it worked or not.
Update 2:
The Qi charging coil built into the CarPad does work to charge the HTC DNA, unfortunately the coil is positioned about 0.5" too low for the phone.
Moon is working on an adjustment to the circuit board to re-position the charging coil.
Tonight I am going to take a look at temperatures during charging. With the screen turned on the battery did get 3-4°C warmer than normal on the Nokia Qi charger, but it was a pretty short charge. I am going to try leaving the screen turned on and the phone charging on the CarPad tonight for a couple of hours to see the charge rate and temperature change.
Other news:
There does not seem to be any scuffing, scratching, or denting of the phone's finish caused by inserting and removing from the clip. I had worried that the spring arms on the side might hurt the matte finish on the back of the phone, but so far I don't see any changes.
Thanks guys,
Ben
thanks for the update, keep us posted. in car qi charging is very interesting.
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Thanks, I got a reply from Moon that he thinks the "autopad" will be the option for the DNA and he'll let me know when it is available. I will post info here if I hear back.
http://owlpad.net/owl-autopad/
Update 3:
Good news tonight. First, I've done a temperature test using the phone at room temperature. With navigation, LTE, and the screen constantly on the CarPad provides moderage charge (+200mAh) and does not cause excessively high heat (under 45°C). This is comparable with the 43°C I saw with the Nokia Qi charger while watching a Netflix Stream.
With the screen off the temperature is also pretty normal (35°C) so I think the coil is good.
Moon at Owl Chargers tells me that he may add a little to the coil to make it more consistent on the charging, and he is going to create a new PCB that has the coil positioned 1/2" higher so that it will line up properly with the DNA.
It sounds like this change could happen pretty quickly, but I will let you know when I have the test board in hand.
Thanks guys,
Ben
Please keep the updates coming, thanks!
Hey everyone, sorry for a few days of delay.
I talked to Moon this morning and he thinks they should have the test board created by the beginning of next week. He is moving the charging coil up to line up better with both the DNA and the Galaxy S3, and he is upgrading to a bigger charging coil to presumably give better charging efficiency.
I have removed the standard charging coil from the phone holding base and have been using it as a standard desktop charger for the last few days (with the Owl-Pad supplied AC Adapter). It has been working well for that as long as I position the phone properly, so with any luck the new board should fix the problem in the car mount.
I will let you guys know when the new part ships, and will be sure to take pictures of the new versus old board.
Thanks,
Ben
Thanks for the updates.
Sudo make me a sandwich.
Good news from Moon at OWL Pad today, the new circuit board is complete, his testing looks good, and he is shipping it out to me to test on the DNA tomorrow.
I will update everyone here with pictures once I have the new board and have been able to try it out, but Moon posted some initial tests on the Galaxy S3 and Note 2 which both charge at the higher position. Those tests looked good so I have to think it will work on the DNA as well.
Thanks all,
Ben
(You can see my pictures and charging screenshots on the OwlPad site)
http://owlpad.net/2013/02/24/owl-carpad-for-htc-droid-dn/
AWESOME! thanks again. for the final product, he will make a new charger right? we wont have to buy the old one and replace the circuit board i hope.
thanks again.
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AWESOME! thanks again. for the final product, he will make a new charger right? we wont have to buy the old one and replace the circuit board i hope.
thanks again.
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I'm not sure how he would do that. I'm sure he has a bunch of the units already boxed up from the last production run. It might be that he has to ship the old unit and the new board separate. Honestly, changing the board was incredibly easy. There are four screws and then the old board just lifts out and the new one drops in.
When the new one comes in I had planned on putting up pictures showing how to remove the old one and install the new one.
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I'm not sure how he would do that. I'm sure he has a bunch of the units already boxed up from the last production run. It might be that he has to ship the old unit and the new board separate. Honestly, changing the board was incredibly easy. There are four screws and then the old board just lifts out and the new one drops in.
When the new one comes in I had planned on putting up pictures showing how to remove the old one and install the new one.
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I think I'd love to get both boards since then I'd be prepared if my next phone requires the "other" position.
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I think I'd love to get both boards since then I'd be prepared if my next phone requires the "other" position.
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Looks like the set is for sale for the DNA on the web page now. Still sounds like he's waiting for test results but you go through with an order now if you want.
Hey Guys,
I got the unit in the mail when I got home from work (30 minutes ago).
So far everything looks GREAT!
I am running temperature and charging tests now, but the new coil position looks perfect, and I'm getting as much or possibly more current out of the OWL charger than I was getting out of the Nokia.
Tonight I should have pictures and screen shots available from my early tests, but I have to say that everything looks great so far.
I also want to add that the level of customer service and responsiveness from Moon at OWL charging was incredible. If I got service half as good from the companies I do business with in the US I would be amazed, and these folks are having to deal with me from the other side of the world. I have absolutely no ties with their company, and hadn't even spoken to them to ask if the charger worked for my phone before I ordered, but they went above and beyond any expectations in getting this charger working.
Once I have a few hours charging I can fill in the remaining details (temperatures, approximate charge time, etc), but right now I would say the newest version is a huge success!
-Ben
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So far everything looks GREAT!
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I forgot to mention, the +300 mah charging rate was with the screen locked on, LTE, GPS, Navigation, and Pandora all running.
Ben
bmyton said:
Hey Guys,
I got the unit in the mail when I got home from work (30 minutes ago).
So far everything looks GREAT!
I am running temperature and charging tests now, but the new coil position looks perfect, and I'm getting as much or possibly more current out of the OWL charger than I was getting out of the Nokia.
Tonight I should have pictures and screen shots available from my early tests, but I have to say that everything looks great so far.
I also want to add that the level of customer service and responsiveness from Moon at OWL charging was incredible. If I got service half as good from the companies I do business with in the US I would be amazed, and these folks are having to deal with me from the other side of the world. I have absolutely no ties with their company, and hadn't even spoken to them to ask if the charger worked for my phone before I ordered, but they went above and beyond any expectations in getting this charger working.
Once I have a few hours charging I can fill in the remaining details (temperatures, approximate charge time, etc), but right now I would say the newest version is a huge success!
-Ben
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awesome! thanks for the feedback and being a Guinea pig for us all... i really appreciate it. so to make sure, you are now using the carpad/N2 right? if so, i'm gunna go ahead and place my order.
Thanks again
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I forgot to mention, the +300 mah charging rate was with the screen locked on, LTE, GPS, Navigation, and Pandora all running.
Ben
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Thanks! Placed my order. I'm willing to give it a shot at this point!
Dear all,
Firstly, I tried to clean the ports as usual, as they gets dirty after one month us continous usage and sporting - but not helped this time.
Looks my watch did not survived after only washing my hands ( never swimmed with them ).
They are still 100% operating, but can not be charged. Even when pluged to PC, now it shows message as unrecognized device (before windows normaly recognized them)
And I can see, battery is getting faster to reach zero %.
Did someone (with bricked watch) tried to open them, or you got some clue HOW TO?
I can then pass them to our engineers in foxconn, to study and find possible solution.
Thanks for any advice.
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Dear all,
Firstly, I tried to clean the ports as usual, as they gets dirty after one month us continous usage and sporting - but not helped this time.
Looks my watch did not survived after only washing my hands ( never swimmed with them ).
They are still 100% operating, but can not be charged. Even when pluged to PC, now it shows message as unrecognized device (before windows normaly recognized them)
And I can see, battery is getting faster to reach zero %.
Did someone (with bricked watch) tried to open them, or you got some clue HOW TO?
I can then pass them to our engineers in foxconn, to study and find possible solution.
Thanks for any advice.
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Turn it off, wrap in a thin cloth and put it under the sun for a few days, maybe it'll help
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Turn it off, wrap in a thin cloth and put it under the sun for a few days, maybe it'll help
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Ok, thanks, I´ll give a try...
First day on direct sunlight passed (shiny +31 degrees all day) - no change, still not charging, error message after connecting to PC, remaining 14 percent battery
tomorrow I will continue...
If anybody have some suggestion, please let me know
THANKS
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If anybody have some suggestion, please let me know
THANKS
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Check that the small spring connectors on the docking has the same height. (in case some of them are somewhat stuck)
I usually also clean the ports on the watch with a wooden toothpick.
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Check that the small spring connectors on the docking has the same height. (in case some of them are somewhat stuck)
I usually also clean the ports on the watch with a wooden toothpick.
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Hi,
as I wrote, I was cleaning them usually (written in the topic) and as PC can detect watch after connection, means docking connectors are OK - anyway thanks
Finally, I managed to open the watch and found root cause of charging issue.
Touching pin from inside of plastic cover was stacked somehow and not reaching properly to FFC charging poitns (no idea how this damage is possible to happen from inside of watch).
No water leak as it was expected, so at least this point is fine to realize - waterproof OK
I made some pictures, how the watch look like from inside - if somebody is interested in.
Please post pictures, they'd be useful. You're referring to the pins in picture #1 not making contact with the internal pads of the PCB in picture #2 ?
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Please post pictures, they'd be useful. You're referring to the pins in picture #1 not making contact with the internal pads of the PCB in picture #2 ?
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Yes, exactly...one on the right side of cover is stacked. When I directly put 5V onto +/- pad on the watch, it started to charge...so i only need to fix pin.
Oh, I understand now. Thank you for the pictures, looks to be kind of difficult to fix without opening the watch; perhaps some light, directed tapping on the pad would work.
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Oh, I understand now. Thank you for the pictures, looks to be kind of difficult to fix without opening the watch; perhaps some light, directed tapping on the pad would work.
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hmm...in this case, I think only possibility to fix is to open. Realy depends how it is stacked...mine is pretty solid and hard to release even now when I opened it and got room to touch. Opening of watch itself was pretty hard, well sticked , protected against dust, water and aligned...nice job from xiaomi I must say.
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hmm...in this case, I think only possibility to fix is to open. Realy depends how it is stacked...mine is pretty solid and hard to release even now when I opened it and got room to touch. Opening of watch itself was pretty hard, well sticked , protected against dust, water and aligned...nice job from xiaomi I must say.
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Thanks for the pictures, interesting.
So for the big question, have you managed to get it back together again, without issues?
(i guess you have to clean and reapply glue/silicone)
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Thanks for the pictures, interesting.
So for the big question, have you managed to get it back together again, without issues?
(i guess you have to clean and reapply glue/silicone)
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As of now back cover is only freely pushed to watch and placed into docking station - wrapped all around by tape to hold position.
15 minutes ago fully charged, so from this point of view working.
Just to update: pin was not stacked, but finally I found out, that spring inside of this pin was broken.
Now, I will paste transparent contact glue (water resistant) and stick together - it is supposed to have same resistance as before, even I did not tested it so much under water
So I believe for my purposes of usage (only runing and biking) I will handle all my needs.
Anyone knows if there are spare pins somewhere?
Mine has 2 pins which are pretty corroded and now I cannot connect the watch to the PC.
Lucky I can still charge it
zangaby said:
Anyone knows if there are spare pins somewhere?
Mine has 2 pins which are pretty corroded and now I cannot connect the watch to the PC.
Lucky I can still charge it
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Simple workaround: graphite (temporary) or conductive/silver paste (glue).
Thank you for your advice.
I was hoping to replace them to have a cleaner look.
I found the pins here:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/20-...1d-4765-bdec-d8632028f24c&transAbTest=ae803_5
But I don't know the size.
I don't post here much since I have no clue about programming a phone. However, I know having a qi charger for this phone has been a challenge... Imagine my joy when I found one that only costs $5, and is also a stand! These are at 5 Below. It's not a fast charger, but it does work since it is adjustable.
I actually have this one
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P999H4J
Initially it wouldn't work unless I placed the phone up a little higher, but all I did was open up the charger and moved the charging coils down a bit to match the location on the phone. It doesn't require any kind of soldering or anything. Just unscrewing, removal of adhesive (razor blade/knife), moving the coil set down, and then contact cementing it back in place. That being said, it's still annoying that Razer put the coil low on the phone.
I bought one of these this week. Having a little trouble finding the sweet spot. I'll wake up with the battery sitting at 98-99% and not charging. Maybe that's how wireless works? Charging on/off.
Reznor7 said:
I bought one of these this week. Having a little trouble finding the sweet spot. I'll wake up with the battery sitting at 98-99% and not charging. Maybe that's how wireless works? Charging on/off.
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I just acquired a new to me RP2 so I have not checked this one yet, but all of my previous phones would qi charge up to 100% and then stop and sit slowly draining until the minimum battery percentage threshold would trigger it to charge again. Most were 90-95% when they would start charging again. I suspect it is to protect the battery from being damaged by too much charging, but that could be way off from the real reason for it.
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I actually have this one
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07P999H4J
Initially it wouldn't work unless I placed the phone up a little higher, but all I did was open up the charger and moved the charging coils down a bit to match the location on the phone. It doesn't require any kind of soldering or anything. Just unscrewing, removal of adhesive (razor blade/knife), moving the coil set down, and then contact cementing it back in place. That being said, it's still annoying that Razer put the coil low on the phone.
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Made an account just to chime in but I can confirm this works. It took a bit of doing, especially since I don't really have any electrical knowledge or skills so this was uncharted territory for me but it just took a bit of time and patience.
The one detail I would add is that in order to get the coils low enough to register for me (or for at least the case I was using) I had to break some protruding plastic teeth from the inside of the case. At first glance they looked like they were used the clip the front to the back, but there was no female slot to take the clips. Once I removed them I could position the coils EXACTLY where I needed them.
I included a pic of what position works for me. Good luck everyone!