Buy Kenzo or Kate (new special edition)? - Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Questions & Answers

Hi! I don't know what to do... buy the kenzo version (the one that almost everyone have it) or the Kate special edition (with the 4g B20 band unlocked, which is now available to buy in aliexpress). Kenzo has a lots of developers but Kate has Android 6.0 and everyone who has flashed the rom said that is far better than the other roms. What would you do?
Thanks!

Please, give us a link to Kate in AliExpress

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Inte...2683398479.html?spm=2114.13010308.0.38.kDo4go

I think the Kate is the last version of Note 3 Pro ..
I will wait for someone to correct me.
I'm also interested to know.. Looks like the only difference is that Kate has more 4G bands (hence the bigger size, to handle more antennas)..
Not sure about more infos..
The previous pasted link is off.. There's this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...-Smartphone-5-5-Inch/2178148_32717858702.html

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Note 3 Pro Prime Special Edition Questions

Hey all,
So I recently purchased (which has not arrived yet) a Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro Prime Special Edition smartphone and would like to know if there are any ROMs for this phone? From what I read the special edition phone which comes with Band 28, etc while the other models do not and it seems every tutorial seems to be for the standard model. :crying:
My goal is to unlock the bootloader, flash custom recovery, root and install a 7.x firmware. Is it possible to do this with this with the special edition? If not, should I ask the seller to switch the smartphone to the non special edition smartphone? Cheers.
It depends what country you're live, is it network provider needed that band to running 4GLTE..?, if not..there's no reason you wanna get special edition of RN 3 (kate)..
and beside that, mostly custom rom that available is for kenzo (redmi note 3 pro non special edition)..even you can seek a way installing that rom into kate..but there's too hassle.
Thanks, there was a sale and it was the only black coloured model I could buy and because the 2GB/16GB model was only $20-30 less at the time making the special edition more appealing. I've asked the seller if they could change it though (hoping they have non special edition 3GB/32GB kenzo in stock).
avengernoonzz said:
Hey all,
So I recently purchased (which has not arrived yet) a Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro Prime Special Edition smartphone and would like to know if there are any ROMs for this phone? From what I read the special edition phone which comes with Band 28, etc while the other models do not and it seems every tutorial seems to be for the standard model. :crying:
My goal is to unlock the bootloader, flash custom recovery, root and install a 7.x firmware. Is it possible to do this with this with the special edition? If not, should I ask the seller to switch the smartphone to the non special edition smartphone? Cheers.
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Yes you can do what you written here... There are lot of tutorial out about unlocking bootloader, flash recovery as well as installing rom. You have to be patient & careful when you're following them.
Btw, i'm also RN3 SE (kate) user & using Android 7.x.x rom perfectly

hey guys please advise me about this device

I'm planing to buy a Redmi Note 3 but I've had bad luck with variants of other phones so I just wanted to make sure this device has no variants that are not supported because I only want this phone for the roms so please tell if is there a variant of this phone that I shouldn't buy if I want to flash roms and mods? thanks in advance
This device has couple variants:
- 16GB ROM/2GB RAM
- 32 GB ROM/3 GB RAM
- 32 GB ROM/ 3 GB Special Edition only with Snapdragon 650 CPU ( called by codename in the forum Kate )
Kenzo and Kate are basically the same as far as CPU but there is a diffrence - Kate has LTE band 20 enabled which is useful in Poland where I live. You can flash kenzo roms on kate as long as you fallow the instructions given in opening posts. Hope it helps. ^^
Chaotick said:
This device has couple variants:
- 16GB ROM/2GB RAM
- 32 GB ROM/3 GB RAM
- 32 GB ROM/ 3 GB Special Edition only with Snapdragon 650 CPU ( called by codename in the forum Kate )
Kenzo and Kate are basically the same as far as CPU but there is a diffrence - Kate has LTE band 20 enabled which is useful in Poland where I live. You can flash kenzo roms on kate as long as you fallow the instructions given in opening posts. Hope it helps. ^^
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Thank you for the information
I just want to make sure I don't buy the device and end up with a non-supported variant that I can't flash and modify

Is not there an international version ROM file yet?

This phone looks good and balanced.
If I buy in China, it looks better because the RAM is 6GB at similar price.
I would like to be able to rebrand a non-Chinese rom just like any other Huawei product.
In other Huawei products, how long did it take?
there is already official stock full update available
PeterMarkoff said:
there is already official stock full update available
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Where?
Are you referring this thread ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-10/how-to/firmware-col-l29-8-1-0-104-c432-c185-t3793233
yes, also everyone already got one update which you could use
Yes it is available..
miststudent2011 said:
Where?
Are you referring this thread ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-10/how-to/firmware-col-l29-8-1-0-104-c432-c185-t3793233
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Hey there,
thanks for your answers, I had the same question as the one starting this thread.
Now I became a little sceptic since the updates mentioned in the thread that's linked above, are for the honor 10 model COL-L29 (4gb RAM) – the 6gb RAM version has the code COL-AL10 though – are there any updates / EU ROMs for COL-AL10 that someone knows of?
I guess you can't just install firmware for the 4gb version on the 6gb version, or can you?
Would be awesome if someone knows of something or maybe has the 6gb version themselves + official Global/EU ROM on it.
vollkornbaguette said:
Hey there,
thanks for your answers, I had the same question as the one starting this thread.
Now I became a little sceptic since the updates mentioned in the thread that's linked above, are for the honor 10 model COL-L29 (4gb RAM) – the 6gb RAM version has the code COL-AL10 though – are there any updates / EU ROMs for COL-AL10 that someone knows of?
I guess you can't just install firmware for the 4gb version on the 6gb version, or can you?
Would be awesome if someone knows of something or maybe has the 6gb version themselves + official Global/EU ROM on it.
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Currently very little is known about this device software and hardware variants.
Though the device is launched with Emui 8.1 some models have march or april or may android update out of the box. we need to wait till june security update to know more about it.
Most of the EU variants are updated to may security patches.
Yes stock ROM available
Yes stock ROM for L29 is available. I have seen somewhere. That was for Europe and some other countries and B104.
Honor 10 lite 6gb 128gb. Is there any international rom for it?
Looking for an international rom for honor 10 lite 6gb 128gb bought in China. Anyone can help?
alyssoncamilo said:
Looking for an international rom for honor 10 lite 6gb 128gb bought in China. Anyone can help?
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You are in wrong section its for Honor 10 not 10 lite you need to post in that forum.
BTW do you have bootloader unlocking code ?
If not I think there will be anyway to rebrand it.

Redmi K20 Pro - Chinese ROM to Global ROM. Easy as 1,2,3?

Hi guys,
I want to buy a K20/9T Pro from Aliexpress and have noticed that the sellers are offering them with Chinese ROM and, at a higher price, a Global ROM.
Now there Global ROM versions are in fact Chinese versions with some Global ROM flashed on it, resulting in Google Pay not working and what not.
Now my (quick) question.
For someone that has tinkered with custom ROMs in the past..
Can I just buy the (unlocked) Chinese ROM version and simply flash a good Global ROM on it so that everything works well or isn't is as simple like that?
Just want to know if it's worth to save a few ($25-ish) bucks and do it myself or (if it takes 4826 steps) just buy the CN version flashed with Global rom and be done with it..
Yes it's fairly easy if the bootloader is already unlocked you can flash global rom or eu rom easily. There are tons of instructions how to worst case scenario if the bootloader is locked there is a wait but then again if you buy a phone that already has unlocked bootloader and by accident if you lock the bootloader you would need to get the mi account details that was linked with the phone when the bootloader was unlocked which is impossible so get a phone with locked bootloader in my opinion. In my case I imported unlocked bootloader with a fake global rom installed I am extra careful tho when I use mi flash software incase I lock the bootloader by accident
Hey thanks for the heads up, I'll try and find one with a locked bootloader. :good:
To be honest I'm still trying to decide what to get. The 6/128 K20 or the 6/128 K20 Pro. I don't play games or use computing-heavy apps on my phone so
the faster CPU is not really important to me. I'm trying to find out if there are any other noticeable differences (display/camera) between the two models.
Sinner1970 said:
Hey thanks for the heads up, I'll try and find one with a locked bootloader. :good:
To be honest I'm still trying to decide what to get. The 6/128 K20 or the 6/128 K20 Pro. I don't play games or use computing-heavy apps on my phone so
the faster CPU is not really important to me. I'm trying to find out if there are any other noticeable differences (display/camera) between the two models.
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They are more or less identical, other than the SoC.
As far as I'm aware there are 2 other differences between then.
First is the main camera sensor. Both have a Sony 48MP sensor that give identical performance, except that the K20 sensor can only record 4K video at 30fps, instead of the 60fps that the sensor in the Pro version can do. This slightly lesser sensor was used because the SD730 can only do 4K video at 30fps, so it was pointless putting in the slightly better sensor.
Second, the K20 only charges at 18W compared to 27W of the Pro version (provided you purchase a separate charger that can charge at that speed)
If you don't care about having the best just for the sake of it and you don't need the excess performance of the Pro, then the regular K20 probably makes more sense, though one thing to consider is that K20 Pro does seem to have more active custom Rom development, if you are someone that likes to put custom ROMs on your phones.
Robbo.5000 said:
one thing to consider is that K20 Pro does seem to have more active custom Rom development, if you are someone that likes to put custom ROMs on your phones.
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Good point, I'm going for the K20 Pro then. Thanks for explaining!
Robbo.5000 said:
They are more or less identical, other than the SoC.
As far as I'm aware there are 2 other differences between then.
First is the main camera sensor. Both have a Sony 48MP sensor that give identical performance, except that the K20 sensor can only record 4K video at 30fps, instead of the 60fps that the sensor in the Pro version can do. This slightly lesser sensor was used because the SD730 can only do 4K video at 30fps, so it was pointless putting in the slightly better sensor.
Second, the K20 only charges at 18W compared to 27W of the Pro version (provided you purchase a separate charger that can charge at that speed)
If you don't care about having the best just for the sake of it and you don't need the excess performance of the Pro, then the regular K20 probably makes more sense, though one thing to consider is that K20 Pro does seem to have more active custom Rom development, if you are someone that likes to put custom ROMs on your phones.
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k20 pro has a separate qualcomm audio dac as well , k 20 doesnt ?
It's pretty easy, but, if you do want to stay with miui global you should consider to buy 9t pro, instead k20 pro, as you can live with it without touching bootloader. that's the price difference that you should analyze... If it is too much for you, buy a Chinese k20 pro with locked bootloader. There's no point to pay more to have same device with a side loaded rom with unknown source...
thiagodark said:
It's pretty easy, but, if you do want to stay with miui global you should consider to buy 9t pro, instead k20 pro
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Waitwaitwait... 9T pro and K20 pro are not identical?
Sinner1970 said:
Waitwaitwait... 9T pro and K20 pro are not identical?
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Hardware, yes... Software, no.
Since you can only lock your bootloader with original region rom, it makes some differences.
K20 pro is Chinese (or Indian) version and comes with Chinese miui OS. If you don't live china, or speak Chinese, certainly you will want to flash global rom (or European), and if you do so, as I said, you have to live with unlocked bootloader. Locking bootloader with rom from another region will brick your device.
In the other hand, if you buy a global VERSION (9T PRO). It will come with global rom AND a locked bootloader, as it design for global market.
Of course, if you have a global version (9t pro) and want to flash a chinese or a Indian rom, you have to unlock your bootloader and, after flashed, can't lock it either. But it is a really rare situation, the common is the other way.
The consequences of having an unlocked bootloader is that some apps can be problematics, usually financial ones (I don't have any, but some people here seems to have it. From my perspective, Indian dudes use to suffer with it most commonly...)
Anyway, you can fix it with magisk... But, at this point you have notice it is like a cat and mouse game (you have to solve potentials problems that it may cause) and many people really don't want to deal with this things. They wants to take it out the box and use it. That is not the case with k20 pro version...
If you look in AliExpress, you gonna see two types of "globals" devices.
There are "K20 Pro with global ROM" and "9t pro global version"...
For customs roms, forget everything I said
As it requires unlocked bootloader anyway, both devices will act identical...
Sinner1970 said:
Waitwaitwait... 9T pro and K20 pro are not identical?
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nope , mi 9t pro is a official global set , it has more banding then k20 pro , personally mine country has the required band in k20 pro that why i got it , i cant even bother to unlock it since china rom has been ok so far, suggest you do more research first about your country bands first .
OK, so what I have found (all 6Gb/128Gb models) so far on aliexpress is:
K20 CN ROM: $269, unlocked bootloader
K20 GL ROM: $285, unlocked bootloader
K20 pro CN ROM: $340, unlocked bootloader
K20 pro GL ROM: $349, unlocked bootloader
9T Global: $309, unknown bootloader (seller didn't answer)
9T pro Global: $449, unknown bootloader (seller didn't answer)
I am not sure if every K20 (pro) with CN ROM has an unlocked bootloader but all sellers I asked said that theirs do.
Anyway.. I decided to go with the K20 Pro with Global ROM even tho that would mean the NFC/GPay not working,
the little price difference of $9 isn't worth (imho) the hassle/risk of installing a global rom myself. The price difference
between a K20 Pro and a 9T Pro (a cool $100) is too much for me as I really need NFC/Gpay thát badly.
Decision made, am ordering it next week (before the prices go up for 11/11). Thank you all for your explanations and help. :good:
Sinner1970 said:
OK, so what I have found (all 6Gb/128Gb models) so far on aliexpress is:
K20 CN ROM: $269, unlocked bootloader
K20 GL ROM: $285, unlocked bootloader
K20 pro CN ROM: $340, unlocked bootloader
K20 pro GL ROM: $349, unlocked bootloader
9T Global: $309, unknown bootloader (seller didn't answer)
9T pro Global: $449, unknown bootloader (seller didn't answer)
I am not sure if every K20 (pro) with CN ROM has an unlocked bootloader but all sellers I asked said that theirs do.
Anyway.. I decided to go with the K20 Pro with Global ROM even tho that would mean the NFC/GPay not working,
the little price difference of $9 isn't worth (imho) the hassle/risk of installing a global rom myself. The price difference
between a K20 Pro and a 9T Pro (a cool $100) is too much for me as I really need NFC/Gpay thát badly.
Decision made, am ordering it next week (before the prices go up for 11/11). Thank you all for your explanations and help. :good:
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Chinese phones with a Chinese ROM will probably not come with an unlocked bootloader. Normally with the Xiaomi sellers on AliExpress, if you wanted it unlocked you would need to specifically request it.
Same with the EU phones they sell. They will normally come with the bootloader still locked and still on the original EU ROM.
I would recommend you get the Chinese phone with the Chinese ROM, and ask for it to be sent still factory sealed. Then unlock it yourself and install the global ROM. This way you know the quality of the ROM. Getting it with a global ROM already installed, it probably will be an official global ROM, but there's no guarantee that it will be unmodified. Personally I don't think it's worth the risk that it might have something dodgy injected into it.
Imho, Chinese k20 pro with unlocked bootloader and an
unknown globall rom installed had less value if compared with a chinese sealed and locked bootloader. The reason is: 1) if you unlock your bootloader by yourself, you will have the phone associated to YOUR mi account, what makes it easier to get support if something goes wrong. 2) you will install whatever rom you want, downloaded from xiaomi server (or any custom you want), it's really more safe than use a unknown rom that came with your device...
What people should understand is: unlock bootloader opens your phone to third party and not certificated softwares (and this is what you usually want) but, for the same reason, it makes the device more vulnerable to potentially dangerous softwares. When YOU are unlocking it, you can assure what you are flashing and loading through this way you opened.
When a third person gives you an unlocked device, you cannot be sure what was made before it gets in your hand...
So, it's really better get a locked device and do everything by yourself...
I never gave the unlocked/privacy/mi-account -part much thought to be honest. You guys have a very valid point there.
So what you all are saying is that it is better to buy a "untouched, sealed in box" K20 pro with Chinese ROM, unlock the bootloader (7 days wait) through the xiaomi site, and then flash a Global ROM on it?
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I never gave the unlocked/privacy/mi-account -part much thought to be honest. You guys have a very valid point there.
So what you all are saying is that it is better to buy a "untouched, sealed in box" K20 pro with Chinese ROM, unlock the bootloader (7 days wait) through the xiaomi site, and then flash a Global ROM on it?
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Yes, better and cheaper...
Sinner1970 said:
I never gave the unlocked/privacy/mi-account -part much thought to be honest. You guys have a very valid point there.
So what you all are saying is that it is better to buy a "untouched, sealed in box" K20 pro with Chinese ROM, unlock the bootloader (7 days wait) through the xiaomi site, and then flash a Global ROM on it?
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Yes thats exactly what I did, I flashed xiaomi.eu rom after I unlocked it and it works like a charm. One of the best purchases I have made this phone
Edit - Also if you buy a CN version with a "fake" global ROM and they somehow managed to lock the bootloader you will run into problems if you wish to flash another ROM that require many steps to fix as mentioned in the lengthy second post in this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/k20-pro/how-to/redmi-k20-pro-firmware-10-3-8-0-9-6-13-t3939647
So imho stay away from those with a global rom on them.
I have a K20 PRO with bootloader unlocked, can I run a Mi9T PRO ROM on it? After all, they are the same devices.
Dionisiobsilva said:
I have a K20 PRO with bootloader unlocked, can I run a Mi9T PRO ROM on it? After all, they are the same devices.
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Yes. Flash a fastboot ROM in the Mi Flash Tool for the region you want (European or global).
Just remember. YOU MUST CHANGE THE DEFAULT FLASH OPTION IN THE MI FLASH TOOL.
If you flash a ROM for a different region to the phone you cannot lock the bootloader. If you use the 'clean all and lock' option you will hard brick the phone. You must change the flash option to 'clean all'.
I have a "noob" question: Will flashing a Mi9T Pro (or custom) ROM on a chinese K20 Pro unlock/reveal the B20 (800mhz) band or is that a hardware thing?
Sinner1970 said:
I have a "noob" question: Will flashing a Mi9T Pro (or custom) ROM on a chinese K20 Pro unlock/reveal the B20 (800mhz) band or is that a hardware thing?
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No, flashing ROMs or firmware for different regions will neither enable or disable any bands.

International x global version

Sorry If i'm being dumb but i am considering getting a Mi A3 this week and i want to know If I can find out If its global or international right at the store?
I saw some have an extra simbol on its back like an C.E. what does It mean?
What is the diferences between booth versions? I Heard some dont run apps like Netflix and dont get OTA ... is that right?
Thanks
Global and international are the same thing.
The 2 versions are EU and Global.
The differences is the EU version respects European legislation when it comes to data protection and the like.
There is no difference. They are exactly the same. You can flash EU onto global and vice versa.
Global version receives updates slightly quicker than EU version also
Sapper Morton said:
Not quite, since Indian variant uses Global firmware
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Thanks for the clarification and lesson :silly:
Thanks so much ... Just got Mine! It is all fine and already runing Android 10

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