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has anybody had any experiences with external batteries? I heard the high amp requirement makes it hard to get the prime to charge. can anybody confirm this and/or recommend a good battery?
it's usually the cabling in my experience. SOOOO many small companies make charger bags but only attach a usb 2.0 cable. Prime needs a usb 3.0 cable. I've considered buying batteries, cables, and soldering the amps myself to do this.
The prime requires 15v output to charge, not usb's standard 5v.
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has anybody had any experiences with external batteries? I heard the high amp requirement makes it hard to get the prime to charge. can anybody confirm this and/or recommend a good battery?
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Honestly, the best "external battery" for the Prime is the one that comes inside of the keyboard dock. It is unlikely you will find one as good for significantly less money.
I posted this in the original TF forum...may help you out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21930625&postcount=55
All you need is a 3S Lipo Battery, charger & female usb connector.
Ok, So I figured USB cables were pretty straight forward, but apparently i'm wrong, so maybe some of you can shed some light on this?
I have purchased several of those external battery type things to carry around when I need extra juice and am away from power for an extended time and I have found the following regarding cables very odd..
With the stock samsung wall charger/cable I get around 1000ma charge rate. Good...
If I take the above cable and use it with an external battery device I get 500ma.. Bad...
If I use the coiled cable that comes with the external battery I get 800ma charge rate.. Huh?
If I use the short straight cable that comes with the external battery I get 900ma charge rate.. Double Huh?
The external battery has a 1000ma charging port that I am using. (as well as a 2A)
When traveling around i'd like to bring just 1 cable instead of many cables each for a different device as these are all Micro USB and supposed to be standard, and I realized that some cables have the data pins shorted for extra power above an beyond the "standard" 500ma charge from a computer USB port.
What I don't get is how some of the cables deliver more than the normal 500ma from one device but not the other? Either the extra pins are shorted or not?
I know some of you will say who cares about 500ma or 1000ma, but I am using a 5400mah battery in my Note, and 5 hours vs 10 hours recharge time is a pretty big difference.
I just want one long cable that will charge at close to 1000ma from anything
While I don't know a great deal about USB cables, I do know that even our stock cables are cheap at best.
A year or so ago, I had an HTC cable go bad and decided to buy a high capacity cable.
I went online , to monstercable.com and found a 6 foot long brute..
It was nearly double the wire strand size, and used gold plated connections.
I could charge my phone in just under an hour ...using my stock HTC adapter.
I'm convinced that the resistance in the cable is your main issue. And a quality cable will solve it.
I paid $29.00 for the cable plus shipping, and I still use it today ....g
So I have started using an application on my Note 3 that is pretty much a battery muncher, GPS, Data, Processing, Graphics the works. I am looking into some options for extending battery life with some accessories. I was originally planning on getting 2 batteries with a charger but I'd like to also consider a portable battery pack so I can share the power with friends. What I am curious about is whether or not the charger can support the 900ma/h charging rate. I was wondering if the standard usb port can support the power as long as its a micro usb 3.0 connector. To simplify I just need to know that if I have type A usb connector to a micro usb 3.0 connector can I charge my phone at the fastest rate. And does the output of the charger have to be at least 1A?
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So I have started using an application on my Note 3 that is pretty much a battery muncher, GPS, Data, Processing, Graphics the works. I am looking into some options for extending battery life with some accessories. I was originally planning on getting 2 batteries with a charger but I'd like to also consider a portable battery pack so I can share the power with friends. What I am curious about is whether or not the charger can support the 900ma/h charging rate. I was wondering if the standard usb port can support the power as long as its a micro usb 3.0 connector. To simplify I just need to know that if I have type A usb connector to a micro usb 3.0 connector can I charge my phone at the fastest rate. And does the output of the charger have to be at least 1A?
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I own two battery packs. Both are from a company called PowerGen and I picked them up on Amazon.com. One pack is 12,000mah the other is 5,200mah. You just plug your regular charging cable into one of the standard USB jacks in the battery pack and turn it on. The larger pack has a 2A jack and will charge at a fast rate. When I was using the Note 2, I used a special heavy duty charging cable that I picked up on Amazon.com and that cable allowed the Note 2 to charge at a faster rate. I have not tried to use the cable on the Note 3, but I might soon. I feel that battery packs are a much more flexible approach than extra batteries. You can get more than one recharge on the battery pack. I addition, I use the battery packs with a large number of other devices. If you get a new device, the battery pack can still be used.
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So I have started using an application on my Note 3 that is pretty much a battery muncher, GPS, Data, Processing, Graphics the works. I am looking into some options for extending battery life with some accessories. I was originally planning on getting 2 batteries with a charger but I'd like to also consider a portable battery pack so I can share the power with friends. What I am curious about is whether or not the charger can support the 900ma/h charging rate. I was wondering if the standard usb port can support the power as long as its a micro usb 3.0 connector. To simplify I just need to know that if I have type A usb connector to a micro usb 3.0 connector can I charge my phone at the fastest rate. And does the output of the charger have to be at least 1A?
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YUp. I have an old anker external battery with 1a and 2a ports, the 2a port charges my note 3 at 1800. To be fair it is picky over the cable used (a decent quality non ribbon cable) and the temperature of the phone and battery (thermal throttling which is perfectly sensible to avoid cooking the battery and phone). It appears that there is a lot of variables that can potentially screw up a decent charge rate for some folks some of the time. My experience with the anker battery pack has been excellent, even nearly 2 years later after daily use.
Personally I am getting a little tired of the whole charging the battery twice a day so I am looking at a larger battery. The zerolemon allegedly affects signal quality, the 6400mah ones from elsewhere seem to come with shocking cases so I am still looking. It would be great if samsung came out with an extended battery and case. You think they would be after that money.
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YUp. I have an old anker external battery with 1a and 2a ports, the 2a port charges my note 3 at 1800. To be fair it is picky over the cable used (a decent quality non ribbon cable) and the temperature of the phone and battery (thermal throttling which is perfectly sensible to avoid cooking the battery and phone). It appears that there is a lot of variables that can potentially screw up a decent charge rate for some folks some of the time. My experience with the anker battery pack has been excellent, even nearly 2 years later after daily use.
Personally I am getting a little tired of the whole charging the battery twice a day so I am looking at a larger battery. The zerolemon allegedly affects signal quality, the 6400mah ones from elsewhere seem to come with shocking cases so I am still looking. It would be great if samsung came out with an extended battery and case. You think they would be after that money.
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How do you check what the charging rate is And id like a cable that bends with no resistance unlike the factory cable .
Theres a free app "galaxy charging current lite", seems to be pretty accurate compared to time taken to charge.
As for the cables. I checked quite a few cables and I noticed that the higher quality cables, more expensive, thicker, better connectors etc were far more likely to charge at a higher rate. I would not be shocked if some of the cheaper cables, especially the flat noodle types were skimping either in the cables or the shielding. I could be entirely wrong of course but I did attempt to limit any other variables like being in airplane mode, low room temp, battery not near fully charged.
Don't get me wrong, I find it a huge PITA using a stiffer cable but that is why I am looking for an extended battery that doesn't leave me with the worlds worst case or stuff up the signal.
Can anyone recommend a good car charger and a battery pack around 10,000 mah
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Can anyone recommend a good car charger and a battery pack around 10,000 mah
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I just posted the car charger I am using with the charging cable that provides a 1800 mA charging rate on the note 3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48626737
I just won a bid for a 12000 mah floureon portable charger 12.99 on ebay free shipping should be here today
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richym82 said:
YUp. I have an old anker external battery with 1a and 2a ports, the 2a port charges my note 3 at 1800. To be fair it is picky over the cable used (a decent quality non ribbon cable) and the temperature of the phone and battery (thermal throttling which is perfectly sensible to avoid cooking the battery and phone). It appears that there is a lot of variables that can potentially screw up a decent charge rate for some folks some of the time. My experience with the anker battery pack has been excellent, even nearly 2 years later after daily use.
Personally I am getting a little tired of the whole charging the battery twice a day so I am looking at a larger battery. The zerolemon allegedly affects signal quality, the 6400mah ones from elsewhere seem to come with shocking cases so I am still looking. It would be great if samsung came out with an extended battery and case. You think they would be after that money.
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I bought a floureon 12000 portable battery I was wondering what the 1 and 2 usb are for thanks for clarifying is it bad if I use the 2.a every time I charge fast will that effect my phone heating up etc?
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2 a is not bad. That is what the oem charger is. Depending on how much juice the app is using 1a won't cut it.
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2 a is not bad. That is what the oem charger is. Depending on how much juice the app is using 1a won't cut it.
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So what's 1.a for?
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So what's 1.a for?
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... for devices that only need 1A or less....
I use myCharge Amp 6000xt when I'm travelling. Plugs right into any US outlet to rechage, and can charge at up to 2.1A, with 3 USB ports available (1200mA typical charge rate on my Note 3 using a generic USB cable, according to my charge current app).
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So what's 1.a for?
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Most phones only come with a 1A charger, while most tablets (and Note 3) come with a 2-2.1A charger. I have an Power Bank battery with a 1A port and a 2.1A port. The 2. 1A port is the only one I use to charge my Note 3, and I use the 1A port for other phones and/or my blue tooth headset.
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Is there a cable longer then the original that will charge like the original?
The cable is too short, and i cant find a longer one anywhere. I need one that would charge the phone fast like the original.
I use a 3 foot usb cable extension with mine
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Is there a cable longer then the original that will charge like the original?
The cable is too short, and i cant find a longer one anywhere. I need one that would charge the phone fast like the original.
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There is nothing special about the original cable, it is just a data cable/charge cable. It is the charger that is special. The stock charger is internally shorted to charge [email protected]?2 amps not [email protected] Get a good quality 6 foot data/charge cable from monoprice. The monoprice cables have small ends that fit on almost all cases with smaller USB holes. EBay cables are hit or miss.
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There is nothing special about the original cable, it is just a data cable/charge cable. It is the charger that is special. The stock charger is internally shorted to charge [email protected]?2 amps not [email protected] Get a good quality 6 foot data/charge cable from monoprice. The monoprice cables have small ends that fit on almost all cases with smaller USB holes. EBay cables are hit or miss.
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Grab your stock charger, install Galaxy Charging Current on your phone and test different cables. You'll see that the stock cable charges much faster. This goes for car chargers too. I have a Samsumg OEM 2 A car charger that I tested with different cables. The difference between the stock cable and even good quality cables is notorious. What really isn't that special is the charger. Even a USB charging port from a laptop can provide more than 500 mA. By the way, you are confusing DC and AC currents.if you are referring to the 500 mA of the USB standard, they are DC too.
That being said, I too wish there was a 3 meter cable that could charge as fast as the Samsung original.
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Grab your stock charger, install Galaxy Charging Current on your phone and test different cables. You'll see that the stock cable charges much faster. This goes for car chargers too. I have a Samsumg OEM 2 A car charger that I tested with different cables. The difference between the stock cable and even good quality cables is notorious. What really isn't that special is the charger. Even a USB charging port from a laptop can provide more than 500 mA. By the way, you are confusing DC and AC currents.if you are referring to the 500 mA of the USB standard, they are DC too.
That being said, I too wish there was a 3 meter cable that could charge as fast as the Samsung original.
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I bought my phone brand new from a local Verizon Corporate store and obviously my phone came with the Galaxy Note 3's standard white Samsung 2.1amp charger and white USB 3.0 charging cable. I needed extras and wanted to order something as close to stock performance and charging speeds that I could get without paying out the a$$ for a couple of real OEM wall chargers and cables from Verizon, so I did a little research and found a couple of good combos off Amazon that matched the same charging rates that the OEM charger/cable combo gives me.
I ordered an Amazon Basics 2.1amp output wall charger, this Amazon Basics 9ft long USB 3.0 cable, this small/low profile PNY 12volt/2.1amp "Rapid Charge" Car Charger, and this 8ft long Mediabridge USB 3.0 "SuperSpeed" Cable.
I tested combos of each cable(OEM White Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Cable, Amazon Basics Cable, and the Mediabridge Cable) with EACH charger(OEM White Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Wall Charger, Amazon Basics 2.1amp Wall Charger, and the PNY 2.1amp Car Charger) using the "Galaxy Charging Current" app and got the same results all across the board with each combo, even the Samsung Charger/Samsung Cable combo. So unless that app spits out skewed numbers on a consistent basis, I believe it's safe to say that as long as you get a decent quality charger that can truly pump out 2.1amps like the OEM Samsung Charger and a decent cable to pair up with whatever charger you purchase, there's no need to spend the big bucks and go OEM....unless you're just one of those kinds of people that HAS to have OEM everything just for the extra peace of mind and to make sure all of their accessories are of the same matching Samsung brand. I see no reason to spend that kind of money when a MUCH cheaper alternative will get the job done just the same, PLUS the "craftsmanship" and quality of the aftermarket chargers/cables I mentioned appears to be outstanding, if not maybe even a little better than the OEM Samsung combo...besides the fact that the fancy OEM cable has the glossy, white, square-shaped plugs at the each end of the cable with the "SAMSUNG" name emblazoned on them and those aftermarket cables gave me a hard time squeezing past the charger cutout on my Spigen Slim Armor Case(some shaving of the plug is necessary in order for them to fit through my Slim Armor charging cutout).
If you're not concerned with all that fanciness, save yourself quite a few bucks and opt for the cheaper alternatives...just do yourself a favor and do your research first...you WON'T be disappointed. :good::good::good:
You got lucky. I've tested about half dozen cables by now and none of them managed to deliver the same current as the stock cable. Out of curiosity, what current did you get? 1800 mA?
Yeah, it's mostly testing with the Galaxy Charging app on whether or not you get the max current or not. I got lucky that my wife's Lumia's data cable is at par with the stock cable and use that for Ingress sessions. I also use the HP Touchpad wall charger as a secondary charger, it gives out 2.1 amps, one of the best chargers around.
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Yeah, it's mostly testing with the Galaxy Charging app on whether or not you get the max current or not. I got lucky that my wife's Lumia's data cable is at par with the stock cable and use that for Ingress sessions. I also use the HP Touchpad wall charger as a secondary charger, it gives out 2.1 amps, one of the best chargers around.
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I have also tested with various combinations of the OEM sammy cable and charger, AmazonBasics 3' and 9' USB3 cables, a nexus 7 wall charger and an Anker 2.4W car charger. All did very well and charged around 1800mA. My laptop charges it at a little under 500mA.
I also had to shave the AmazonBasics end to fit with my Slim Armor case. I don't get why they made it so large in the first place, its HUGE. Also, the AmazonBasics cord is very thick and stiff, more like cable TV cable.
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I bought my phone brand new from a local Verizon Corporate store and obviously my phone came with the Galaxy Note 3's standard white Samsung 2.1amp charger and white USB 3.0 charging cable. I needed extras and wanted to order something as close to stock performance and charging speeds that I could get without paying out the a$$ for a couple of real OEM wall chargers and cables from Verizon, so I did a little research and found a couple of good coimbos off Amazon that matched the same charging rates that the OEM charger/cable combo gives me.
I ordered an Amazon Basics 2.1amp output wall charger, this Amazon Basics 9ft long USB 3.0 cable, this small/low profile PNY 12volt/2.1amp "Rapid Charge" Car Charger, and this 8ft long Mediabridge USB 3.0 "SuperSpeed" Cable.
I tested combos of each cable(OEM White Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Cable, Amazon Basics Cable, and the Mediabridge Cable) with EACH charger(OEM White Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Wall Charger, Amazon Basics 2.1amp Wall Charger, and the PNY 2.1amp Car Charger) using the "Galaxy Charging Current" app and got the same results all across the board with each combo, even the Samsung Charger/Samsung Cable combo. So unless that app spits out skewed numbers on a consistent basis, I believe it's safe to say that as long as you get a decent quality charger that can truly pump out 2.1amps like the OEM Samsung Charger and a decent cable to pair up with whatever charger you purchase, there's no need to spend the big bucks and go OEM....unless you're just one of those kinds of people that HAS to have OEM everything just for the extra peace of mind and to make sure all of their accessories are of the same matching Samsung brand. I see no reason to spend that kind of money when a MUCH cheaper alternative will get the job done just the same, PLUS the "craftsmanship" and quality of the aftermarket chargers/cables I mentioned appears to be outstanding, if not maybe even a little better than the OEM Samsung combo...besides the fact that the fancy OEM cable has the glossy, white, square-shaped plugs at the each end of the cable with the "SAMSUNG" name emblazoned on them and those aftermarket cables gave me a hard time squeezing past the charger cutout on my Spigen Slim Armor Case(some shaving of the plug is necessary in order for them to fit through my Slim Armor charging cutout).
If you're not concerned with all that fanciness, save yourself quite a few bucks and opt for the cheaper alternatives...just do yourself a favor and do your research first...you WON'T be disappointed. :good::good::good:
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I'm with you. I've been using that cheap sprint 2amp dual use ac/car charger with the monoprice cables and it charges just as fast as the stock samsung combo.
By the way, ~9 feet (3 meters) is a long ways to charge something.
If you ever notice if you buy one of the cheap cigarette lighter chargers it shows USB charging in the battery properties. This limits it to around 500ma. It must be internally wired to charge at the USB standard. Now buy cigarette Lighter 'fast charger' and it will show AC charging in the battery properties. It must be internally wired to charge at a higher amperage.
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In the bottom line, only the samsung original cable can charge with maximum power?
No, just a good quality cable imho. Monoprice 6 footer or similar. Only one thing that bothers me with monoprice cable is the wire tends to pull out of the terminated end if you pull at it too much. What I love about them is the terminated ends are small.
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I've been looking at different Micro USB Charging Cables for my brand new Nexus 6 and I want to make sure that I'll still get the benefits of the Faster charging with a different cable. I found this, but I have no idea if any 3rd party cables can be used.
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-U...11893&sr=8-2&keywords=nexus+6+micro+usb+cable
That cable will work fine. Pretty much any 3rd party cable will work.
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I've been looking at different Micro USB Charging Cables for my brand new Nexus 6 and I want to make sure that I'll still get the benefits of the Faster charging with a different cable. I found this, but I have no idea if any 3rd party cables can be used.
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-U...11893&sr=8-2&keywords=nexus+6+micro+usb+cable
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Monoprice Monoprice Monoprice Monoprice
Do NOT buy any cable from anywhere else. Unless it's cheaper, but it probably won't be. Their stuff has always been great and the selection is awesome.
http://www.monoprice.com/Search/Index?keyword=micro+usb
If you buy from monoprice and want a cable over 3 ft then you have to buy a "premium" cable and that costs more. I got this one on Amazon, it will give you the full charging speed at 6 ft or more:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RB6881Y/
Keep in mind that to get the full speed with a cable longer than 3 ft you really need to get something like 24/28 AWG otherwise it can't carry the charge. I bought a bunch of 28/28 cables and none of them gave me the full speed. At 3 ft pretty much any cable will work.
10ft cable that is 28/28 from Mono Price is $1.27
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5139&seq=1&format=2
Sleeepy2 said:
10ft cable that is 28/28 from Mono Price is $1.27
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5139&seq=1&format=2
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28/28 isn't going to work. I bought 6 and was very disappointed.
http://lifehacker.com/cables-can-significantly-impact-the-charging-speed-of-y-1532784722
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28/28 isn't going to work. I bought 6 and was very disappointed.
http://lifehacker.com/cables-can-significantly-impact-the-charging-speed-of-y-1532784722
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It actually does work, IF you are using a QuickCharge charger. They increase the voltage, and lower the amperage. This in turn causes lower voltage drop over the cable, making the size less relevant. I have a pair of 10ft Monoprice 28/28s here, the charge speed is the same as the cable the phone comes with. Once it drops to 5V, the battery is already only allowing small currents to top it off anyway.
With a standard 5V charger, that article is dead on. And all things being equal, you generally do want the thicker ones, so do get them if they are available.
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It actually does work, IF you are using a QuickCharge charger. They increase the voltage, and lower the amperage. This in turn causes lower voltage drop over the cable, making the size less relevant. I have a pair of 10ft Monoprice 28/28s here, the charge speed is the same as the cable the phone comes with. Once it drops to 5V, the battery is already only allowing small currents to top it off anyway.
With a standard 5V charger, that article is dead on. And all things being equal, you generally do want the thicker ones, so do get them if they are available.
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If it works for you then I'm envious, but I've got 3 Motorola chargers, 3 Nexus 6s and 8 6ft 28/28 cables that aren't doing it and for my money that's a pretty good sample. I only have all these because I manage the phone plan at work. When we bought the 24/28 6ft cables we had no issues.