Just wondering about the feasibility of (someone with the know-how) creating a background app/service that could monitor and intercept the Nook's Vol+ and Vol- buttons, and if held down for a certain amount of time, perform Menu or Back actions as well.
I would think this possible, based on CM ROMs' ability to skip forwards/backwards from the lockscreen when music is playing, as well as the official XBMC Remote's abililty to change the volume for media playing on an XBMC box without interfering with the volume on the actual Android device.
Under the stock BN ROM I had remapped the Vol buttons, which wasn't a problem since the speaker was barely audible in the first place, but since flashing Dalingrin's OC kernel with the increased volume, I (happily) find the need to be able to change the volume levels easily.
I can't be the only one who's pondered this, but I've read through most of the threads and don't recall seeing this anywhere... If I've missed it, please point me in the right direction.
Thoughts? Takers?
Thanks.
You mean like this easily flashable script in the development forum (page 2).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965023
I am talking an app which would retain volume functionality if the buttons are pressed briefly, as well as implement menu / back functions if held.
Unfortunately it looks like that script you linked to simply remaps the volume keys to menu and back -- without retaining volume functionality:
EpicFail236 said:
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I find that my need for physical menu and back buttons is greater than my need for physical volume buttons.
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This zip is CWM flashable, and simply overwrites the keymap kl files with ones that have the volume buttons remapped.
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Not exactly what you want, but a simple solution.
see this, tip #7. Its a simple edit to a text file.
Worked on CM7, heres my edited /system/usr/keylayout/qwerty.kl vol up=menu, down=back
Thanks; unfortunately that is the essentially same as sparhawk's solution, and what I did under the BN ROM.
What I'm looking for is a solution via an application that retains the volume button functionality and augments the buttons with menu/back ability and does not simply remap the volume buttons.
If I had the slightest inkling as to how to do this myself, I would. Unfortunately I've tried and failed (miserably) so far at attempting to learn coding for Android.
I was hoping someone might be familiar with the way CM and XBMC Remote handle these intercepts and be able to adapt code, or create something similar for menu/back functionality.
I get what you are saying, but I don't think it would be possible. Notice how if you hold it down now, it will turn the volume down all the way step by step. When the screen is off, it doesn't do anything. If it was made to be held down to switch function, you would lose the ability to turn down the volume by holding it down. I know what I said is confusing, but just think about it lol. Have you thought about remapping tthe keys totally to menu/back, and then having a sound toggle in the pull down widget for the notification bar? You wouldn't have total control over the levels, but at least its something.
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Xephik said:
I get what you are saying, but I don't think it would be possible. Notice how if you hold it down now, it will turn the volume down all the way step by step. When the screen is off, it doesn't do anything.
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I am running CM7 n11 on the nook, and regardless of whether the screen is on or off: if music is playing, when I hit the volume button, the volume level is changed. Not sure what you're referring to.
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If it was made to be held down to switch function, you would lose the ability to turn down the volume by holding it down.
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I don't necessarily think that's the case.
Example: somehow CM is able to retain volume functionality and add skip next/previous track in music player. When I refer to the ability of CM to skip forward/backwards when music is playing, I am basing this on my experience with CM6.12 on my Droid1.
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Have you thought about remapping tthe keys totally to menu/back, and then having a sound toggle in the pull down widget for the notification bar? You wouldn't have total control over the levels, but at least its something.
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Yeah, done that and didn't love it. I believe a solution such as I'm suggesting would be much more "integrated," elegant, and convenient.
Basically the app would intercept a volume button press:
- brief press: button release < 300ms, app performs volume function
- long press: button held down or release > 300ms, perform back or menu
Are there any experienced devs who provide some insight?
tj!2k7 said:
Thanks; unfortunately that is the essentially same as sparhawk's solution, and what I did under the BN ROM.
What I'm looking for is a solution via an application that retains the volume button functionality and augments the buttons with menu/back ability and does not simply remap the volume buttons.
If I had the slightest inkling as to how to do this myself, I would. Unfortunately I've tried and failed (miserably) so far at attempting to learn coding for Android.
I was hoping someone might be familiar with the way CM and XBMC Remote handle these intercepts and be able to adapt code, or create something similar for menu/back functionality.
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I've seen this behavior to control the Android music player. And honesty I don't see why it couldn't be adapted to throw a back or home interrupt. But to implement it is beyond me!
Here is a GitHub repo to handle the Android player on long press up and down but also still handle volume changes on short press.
https://github.com/metalhead8816/android_frameworks_policies_base
And I'm pretty sure the specific commit would be
https://github.com/metalhead8816/an...mmit/7504617a9211a65ce767281c59668e8641b8a14d
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Here is a GitHub repo to handle the Android player on long press up and down but also still handle volume changes on short press.
https://github.com/metalhead8816/android_frameworks_policies_base
And I'm pretty sure the specific commit would be
https://github.com/metalhead8816/an...mmit/7504617a9211a65ce767281c59668e8641b8a14d
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We're on a better path now. Thank you for posting concrete evidence of the volume buttons serving two simultaneous functions.
Could that code be used as a base for a standalone background app/service to implement the desired functionality? Better yet if it could be built into a ROM such as CM, but a standalone app would be perfect.
As this is really a question for devs, should I have posted this thread in the dev forum?
This code was put in for eclair so it won't apply cleanly to the Froyo code. But I'm sure a DEV with good Java knowledge could hack this into the current policy framework. From the code this appears pretty integral so I doubt this could be an outside apk that we install. This would likely be an alternate framework we'd need to apply to a ROM much like a style. But again I'm not an Android developer so I don't know for sure.
Button remapper works for the simple remapping, but not for the longpress actions.
I have half a mind to attempt writing a simple service for this
long press menu->vol up in 20% increments
long press back->vol down in 20% increments (may interfere with CM7 long press to kill functionality)
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/12/back-and-other-hard-keys-three-stories.html
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4983605/send-button-volume-button-action-listeners
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/KeyEvent.html
A service sounds (to a non-programmer such as myself) like it would be less involved than framework modifications, and portable across ROM updates.
And personally, I don't mind "losing" long-press-kill functionality as I never use it anyway... I'd love to see some progress along these lines... go for it. =)
If you decide to attempt create a service for this, could you be make the long/short actions customizable?
i.e. :
Short press Vol+: Volume up / Long-press Vol+: Menu
Short press Vol-: Volume down / Long-press Vol-: Back
vs.
Short press Vol+: Menu / Long-press Vol+: Volume up
Short press Vol-: Back / Long-press Vol-: Volume down
In most applications, Menu and Back are usable via the status bar; since that functionality would be redundant, it would be nice to retain quick access to volume for short presses. For instances where Menu and Back are not usable in full-screen applications, long-pressing the buttons to perform menu and back actions doesn't seem like much of an issue.
Actually, if the Menu and Back were long-press actions, couldn't you implement functionality to kill the current app if Back was held for a specific amount of time?
Just thought I'd bump this back to the top... any devs out there who might want to take a crack at something like this?
Until we get Honeycomb AOSP this "hack" would be perfect!
I'm on the lookout too. I'd much rather have my vol up and down keys then have them as back and home. Unfortunately I lack the skills to code it so far!
My prayers, answered. Thanks mad-murdock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002000&page=23
On American Android phones with four hardware buttons - we generally have a Menu Key, a Home Key, a Back Key and a Search Key.
The new paradigm per ICS and HTC Ville leak is to have 3 hardware or software buttons, a Back Key, a Home Key, and a Multitask Key. The menu key should be in the new "Action Bar" strip in the program's UI.
When you upgrade a phone with the four old style hardware keys to ICS - the program's don't use an "Action Bar" design. Instead menu key functionality is preserved and to multitask you continue to hold the Home Key.
My question is this - why have the dichotomy in paradigm? Wouldn't it be simpler to force everyone into using an "Action Bar" and then reassigning the Menu Key to function as the new Multitask Key?
As iphone lead a one-key-phone, others aim to this target.
I've wondered that as well. Seeing how useful the multitask button is in the Nexus actually makes me frustrated that I have to hold the home button to bring up the multitask menu.
I guess they just want to preserve it so as not to confuse the pre-existing users.
I havent really seen anyone do or suggest this, but for those making roms for the HTC One series, could you re-re-map the hardware buttons so that the recent apps button pulls up the recent apps (normal ics behavior), and then a long press on the recent apps button maps to the menu button?
My reasoning, is eventually, the "menu" button is something that will get obsoleted, so mapping it as a secondary action (i.e. long press) is a better approach than the current mapping on some of the Roms out there (like cm9). Personally, I'm not a fan of long-presses, so I prefer it for functions I hardly use (like menu).
As for the Gs3, I recommend mapping the 'menu' button to the 'recent apps', and a long press to the menu function (instead of long pressing the home button for recent apps). Again, my reasoning is, when the menu button, eventually gets obsoleted, it becomes pointless having the physical menu button do nothing.
Anyway, just my 2 cents...
Bump.
What I know is that single click functionality of any button can be changed by editing system/usr/keylayout/something_keypad.kl
But long press is not related to button remapping... So it needs to be changed from somewhere else and about that I have no idea..
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What type navigation buttons do you prefer on your smartphone?
Personally, I like virtual buttons. These type of buttons don't need a force to be applied on for them to respond, unlike hardware buttons like those on "GS4 Active". Also, since they are part of the display it will work or break simultanously with the screen. If something happens with the display, both the screen and buttons won't work, whereas in the case of capacitive buttons you might have to deal with a broken....let's say "Home" button while the screen is still working.
I've got the "side key" set to be a power button, but every fiber of my being believes the power button is the one on top. Is there any way I can make the volume up button act as a power button?
You will adapt...
Yeah I think you can do that... saw a remapping apk or that option somewhere.
Problem is it may come back to haunt you; follow the KISS protocol whenever possible.
Those buttons serve some important functions especially when you're having major problems.
Probably a bad idea to alter the button layout that much... after a couple weeks it becomes automatic, more or less
You may find the Galaxy Store app One Handed Operation Plus useful to add more virtual switches.