http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/qa-metro-pcs-lg-k7-lgms330-t3331678
Root method for this device is leading to mny bricks. There is no official tot or kdz reeased for this device. Which is leaving even more people out. Is there any way to close this thread. As for rooting people are using kingroot before bootloader unlock and the swap to su from kingroot mention in post is also leaving people bricked. Again is there any thing we can do to stop more people from bricking
TheMadScientist420 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/qa-metro-pcs-lg-k7-lgms330-t3331678
Root method for this device is leading to mny bricks. There is no official tot or kdz reeased for this device. Which is leaving even more people out. Is there any way to close this thread. As for rooting people are using kingroot before bootloader unlock and the swap to su from kingroot mention in post is also leaving people bricked. Again is there any thing we can do to stop more people from bricking
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Hello,try with framaroot,worked okay with my previous lg smartphones....
Cheers
Lamzur said:
Hello,try with framaroot,worked okay with my previous lg smartphones....
Cheers
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Im ok i got root twrp plus mny a mods. This is for people that dont know.
The thread is fine. Not every thread on xda stays relevant forever, and members in the thread seem to be working things out.
In the end, every person is responsible for what they do to their device. If they read and research and read some more, before doing things, they shouldn't have an issue. If they just blindly flash whatever, that's on them.
I'm going to close this thread now, as I see no malicious intend in that thread. We don't close out dated threads. It's up to members to study up before doing anything. Just reading the last few pages of any threads usually tells the tale.
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Can anyone tell me the interest to unlock the bootloader?
Is it really useful? In which case do?
Because it is very risky to do.
And is there a post that gives a good explications ?
My phone is come from USA. It's a AT&T under the Gingerbread.
galadiel said:
Can anyone tell me the interest to unlock the bootloader?
Is it really useful? In which case do?
Because it is very risky to do.
And is there a post that gives a good explications ?
My phone is come from USA. It's a AT&T under the Gingerbread.
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Check this thread
THE BEGINNERS (N00B) GUIDE!!! N00BS LOOK HERE FOR YOUR HOW TOs
terminator1983 said:
Check this thread
THE BEGINNERS (N00B) GUIDE!!! N00BS LOOK HERE FOR YOUR HOW TOs
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Thank you for the answer.
But my question was not how but why do it.
What is the interest of this operation?
And thank you for the thread that's great.
galadiel said:
Thank you for the answer.
But my question was not how but why do it.
What is the interest of this operation?
And thank you for the thread that's great.
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Unlocking the bootloader will allow you flash different Custom roms(beta of CM9(ICS) is already out) and kernels.Check the development section for roms and decide if u want to use custom roms or want to stay on the stock.
Precision !
terminator1983 said:
Unlocking the bootloader will allow you flash different Custom roms(beta of CM9(ICS) is already out) and kernels.Check the development section for roms and decide if u want to use custom roms or want to stay on the stock.
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Thank you for the information.
I have another question interested? What happens if I flash a ROM without having unlocked the bootloader?
In fact I did it!
And from the device tells me "failed boot 2!" It is because I have not unlocked the bootloader before? And what can I do now? I know it but i'm not sure!
If you want to help me, do not hesitate.
You cant install custom ROMs without unlockng bootloader
After unlocking you have to flash a custom recovery and your ready to install custom ROMs
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try this it might work for u...
first unlock your bootloader
root the device
flash CWM recovery
flash a new ROM
instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
galadiel said:
Thank you for the answer.
But my question was not how but why do it.
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galadiel said:
Thank you for the information.
I have another question interested? What happens if I flash a ROM without having unlocked the bootloader?
In fact I did it!
And from the device tells me "failed boot 2!" It is because I have not unlocked the bootloader before? And what can I do now? I know it but i'm not sure!
If you want to help me, do not hesitate.
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Seems to me like to did need to know "how to do it"! Next time don't jump the gun and ignore the advice you have been given. Now go back and read the NOOB guide 3 times before touching your phone again!
Comment constructive !
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Seems to me like to did need to know "how to do it"! Next time don't jump the gun and ignore the advice you have been given. Now go back and read the NOOB guide 3 times before touching your phone again!
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As very constructive comment!
I think we learn by making mistakes, no!
I made a mistake. But luckily there are friendly people who make constructive comments, which helps us.
Other people believe themselves better and make remarks that do not advance like you.
Thank you to the other, you have given me great help!
galadiel said:
Thank you for the information.
I have another question interested? What happens if I flash a ROM without having unlocked the bootloader?
In fact I did it!
And from the device tells me "failed boot 2!" It is because I have not unlocked the bootloader before? And what can I do now? I know it but i'm not sure!
If you want to help me, do not hesitate.
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Yes u have to unlock the bootloader to use roms.
Follow the steps given in this link if u have decided to unlock your device bootloader.
[PUDDING] International House of Pudding! BL Unlock/root thread (Updated 07/23/2011)
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As very constructive comment!
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Actually it was constructive. If you had read the guide per another poster's advice, you would not have then been back asking how to get out of trouble because you chose to ignore the given advice!
There is plenty of good help given and offered on XDA, but it's the people who ignore the help/advice, forge ahead blindly, then expect the forum members to fix their screw ups because now they suddenly choose to listen to the advice who really make it difficult to keep a positive attitude.
Nuff said!
To be continued and end...
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Actually it was constructive. If you had read the guide per another poster's advice, you would not have then been back asking how to get out of trouble because you chose to ignore the given advice!
There is plenty of good help given and offered on XDA, but it's the people who ignore the help/advice, forge ahead blindly, then expect the forum members to fix their screw ups because now they suddenly choose to listen to the advice who really make it difficult to keep a positive attitude.
Nuff said!
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So if we follow the reasoning.
Read the post. And if you're wrong, too bad for you.
it is a beautiful spirit.
I prefer to say "to err is human" but we are here to help. The best thing is to learn from mistakes (but I'm sure you've never made a mistake). And I must say thanks to those who helped me. I will not make the same mistake.
I can even help those who have made the same mistake without insulting them.
And the kind of comments like yours do not learn.
Now I think the discussion can't stop there! And as we say at home: "A bonne entendeur salut!"
Galadiel, I don't believe that is what happened here. The way this conversation unfolded, your messages started off asking a philosophical question "Why is it desired to unlock the bootloader?" and very quickly turned into "Help, I tried it but something went wrong." From your description, the specific problem you had is a well-documented issue that is described in the instructional link you were given to read, including how to fix it.
There are a lot of people trying to modify their phones. That's why the tutorials exist. Your posts sounded dismissive of the help offered to you, and not surprisingly, you got some annoyed responses in return.
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Okay then. Are you still having the "Failed to boot" screen appear after flashing the .sbf file with RSD Lite? Have you resolved your situation, or do you still need help?
galadiel said:
So if we follow the reasoning.
Read the post. And if you're wrong, too bad for you.
it is a beautiful spirit.
I prefer to say "to err is human" but we are here to help. The best thing is to learn from mistakes (but I'm sure you've never made a mistake). And I must say thanks to those who helped me. I will not make the same mistake.
I can even help those who have made the same mistake without insulting them.
And the kind of comments like yours do not learn.
Now I think the discussion can't stop there! And as we say at home: "A bonne entendeur salut!"
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Galadiel, I don't believe that is what happened here. The way this conversation unfolded, your messages started off asking a philosophical question "Why is it desired to unlock the bootloader?" and very quickly turned into "Help, I tried it but something went wrong." From your description, the specific problem you had is a well-documented issue that is described in the instructional link you were given to read, including how to fix it.
There are a lot of people trying to modify their phones. That's why the tutorials exist. Your posts sounded dismissive of the help offered to you, and not surprisingly, you got some annoyed responses in return.
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Okay then. Are you still having the "Failed to boot" screen appear after flashing the .sbf file with RSD Lite? Have you resolved your situation, or do you still need help?
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I say again. Thank you everyone for your help. I read all your advice and went to read the posts that you advised. All this was very helpful.
I know it.I have been impatient. And I made a mistake. But I prefer a real help instead of infertile reprimands.
Again: thank you all for your help. Thanks to you I understand why and how.
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I will work on my phone this weekend. I will read all items with carefully. Then I will tell you if I passed or not.
And if it does not work I hope you will help me again.
Everyday, there is a thread about someone bricking his phone or some other issue. Why isn't there a thread as a sticky for noobs trying to root this complicated device? Every other Android device I owned had one. This is what would help.
1) Identifying what phone you have i.e. Maxx,Razr,909,910,912, etc.
2) GSM or CDMA
3) What rooting method for what phone.
4) What recovery for what phone.
5) What kernels and ROMS for what phone.
I am sure this is available somewhere but it is very scattered at the moment and what i available is not very succinct. It seems as though this is the most easiest phone to brick and maybe this can be avoided by having a simple sticky here to which users can post to. Thanks.
Make a thread with all of that info. Maybe the mods will sticky it.
Sent from my Kindle Fire running CM10
85gallon said:
Make a thread with all of that info. Maybe the mods will sticky it.
Sent from my Kindle Fire running CM10
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Wish I could, I am a noob at this phone myself.
I've tried numerous times with numerous methods. Can't seem to get it down. I consider myself pretty tech savvy. Any tips for a noob?
Read the instructions from the developer over and over. Then read it again before doing anything else. Read them several times in their entirety before beginning action. Most issues arise because people think they've read the instructions, but they missed that one key item.
Follow THIS step by step guide, assuming you are bone stock (as the guide states) and you will be golden if you do not skip anything.
I used his CASUAL one-click method (on mac, windows should be easier) and it was my first time rooting. 0 Problems.
Know exactly what version of stock software you have installed on your device. Make sure it lines up with any guide you are following. If you're not sure, ask. Make sure you have a comprehensive understanding of the following concepts before proceeding. If you're confused as to what any of these are, search the forums and google. As a last result, ask. Don't just think you know what these are. Be positive in your knowledge of these terms:
Root
(Locked) Bootloader
Recovery
Rom
Mod
Kernel
Flash/Install
Cache
Dalvik-Cache
Lastly, back up everything, every time. Best laid plans and all that. You can never be too safe.
Good luck
It all depends on whether you're on a Mac or PC. I had tons of problems with my Mac...I finally had to use my wife's work PC. There are also tons of Youtube videos with step by step instructions and links to the software...
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earles84 said:
I've tried numerous times with numerous methods. Can't seem to get it down. I consider myself pretty tech savvy. Any tips for a noob?
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Your first noob mistake is posting a question and not giving any details. What version are you on? Baseband? What have you actually tried? There are more than enough people to help guide you in the right direction. But as he said, do read until your eyes hurt. Then go away and when you come back, read some more
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BoostedB18C said:
Your first noob mistake is posting a question and not giving any details. What version are you on? Baseband? What have you actually tried? There are more than enough people to help guide you in the right direction. But as he said, do read until your eyes hurt. Then go away and when you come back, read some more
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I am rooted now. Just working on getting the bootloader unlocked now so I can flash ROMS.
delete thread
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
I want to get Nougat back after bootloader unlock and need to find my firmware file which was US99810d (Nougat 7.1.2). That's why I wanted to avoid the Oreo flash in the first place, because now I can't find the firmware file for Nougat.
How can I find that file and is flashing back as easy as using the modded LGUP software?
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It's the US998 Nougat KDZ thread, in the ROMs section.
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zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
link?
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Search?
Go here, type in US998 Nougat KDZ into the search box you see on the right side of the forum box in a web browser, where it says "Search this forum".
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development
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zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
Is it this?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/us998-lg-v30-market-us998-t3736910
And is flashing back as easy as using the modded LGUP software?
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Yes.
People do it all the time for Frankenstein to convert to US998 from other North American variants -- either for bootloader unlock or to carrier unlock their phone from Sprint LS998 or AT&T H931. They have to go down to US998 Nougat first, then Master Reset, then go to US998 Oreo.
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zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
seconds later I had already updated with asking the confirmation if it's the right link, but thanks for being a jerk that, instead of taking the same time to provide the link, instead writing to search for myself and hope I got the right one, which, although I did already do it before you wrote that, comes off very abrasive and annoying. And thanks, I'm not an idiot, I know how to read, jerk.
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Why does answering you upset you so much?
Because I pointed out you don't know how to search the XDA forum? You asked for link without bothering to search, when I told you the name of the thread and where to find it. I thought that would be enough information. After I told you how to search, that seems to be when you searched.
Apparently updating a post a few seconds later with more information doesn't count with you, so don't bother to tell me you updated your post. I did the same tonight in the other thread and you acted like I did something nefarious -- by adding more complete information to help you.
I answered when I answered in this thread -- and I tend to act towards people as they act towards me.
I answered your questions about bootloader unlock in the Oreo thread. You either didn't like the answer because you wanted a different answer (you kept asking the same question repeatedly even though I gave you the answer the first time) -- or you couldn't be bothered to actually read it well. Or combination of both?
I wrote the instructions for bootloader unlock -- so if I answered you about bootloader unlock it was to give you the best, accurate information.
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Stop being an a-hole. First, I did search, second, although I did, it's not perfectly clear if by me searching I will get the right result... you know what, I'm done talking to you and justifying myself in the face of your rude and disrespectful way of talking to other members.
You disgust me.
Goodbye.
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By the way you posted in the wrong section, so I reported to a mod and your post will be moved to where you should have posted it -- in Q&A.
Nothing I have said is rude. I only pointed out I had to answer you three times before you actually read what I wrote and that infuriates you for some reason. The question was simple, the answer was simple. For some reason you wanted to make it into an argument because I told you I had already answered your question when you asked it again, and again, and again.
Since I flashed v300l30f pie firmware on my lg v30 oreo. I started seeing this message "please use latest dll,LAF protocol does not match" .
I tried many common dll but nothing solved my problem.
Jxi581 said:
Since I flashed v300l30f pie firmware on my lg v30 oreo. I started seeing this message "please use latest dll,LAF protocol does not match" .
I tried many common dll but nothing solved my problem.
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You need Dev Patched LGUP compatible with Pie.
You need to update to newest Dev Patched LGUP found in any of the Pie KDZ threads I maintain. Also found in Frankenstein thread.
Uninstall any prior version. Read Installation instructions carefully!
Does anyone know how to fix broken download mode?
I tried to root my phone but I failed among the many steps. I just flashed US998 ROM on my V300L because it was in one of the steps. And I didn't unlock my bootloader so I can't install TWRP. I tried to revert back to V300L ROM with LGUP but it doesn't recognize my device. And on download mode screen it says
Unknown B78
Unknown / E / L / RO
Also, I was on Pie
And I didn't find any solution to this problem online.
UPDATE: It boots up to setup screen. But restarts after touching anything.
anted50 said:
Does anyone know how to fix broken download mode?
I tried to root my phone but I failed among the many steps. I just flashed US998 ROM on my V300L because it was in one of the steps. And I didn't unlock my bootloader so I can't install TWRP. I tried to revert back to V300L ROM with LGUP but it doesn't recognize my device. And on download mode screen it says
Unknown B78
Unknown / E / L / RO
Also, I was on Pie
And I didn't find any solution to this problem online.
UPDATE: It boots up to setup screen. But restarts after touching anything.
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Solved.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/how-to-fix-broken-download-mode-t4014827
ChazzMatt said:
You need Dev Patched LGUP compatible with Pie.
You need to update to newest Dev Patched LGUP found in any of the Pie KDZ threads I maintain. Also found in Frankenstein thread.
Uninstall any prior version. Read Installation instructions carefully!
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Plz specify
I am suffering from the same problem and i didnt understand anythng
I am a newbie
Babadoo said:
Plz specify
I am suffering from the same problem and i didnt understand anythng
I am a newbie
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It's pretty clear what I wrote.
You're either...
1) not using Dev Patched LGUP at all (instead using regular LGUP),
2) not using the latest Dev Patched LGUP
or
3) you didn't read the installation instructions of latest Dev Patched LGUP and follow them.
Go to where I said to go,
download from there, and
install according to Instructions:
ChazzMatt said:
You need Dev Patched LGUP compatible with Pie.
You need to update to newest Dev Patched LGUP found in any of the Pie KDZ threads I maintain. Also found in Frankenstein thread.
Uninstall any prior version. Read Installation instructions carefully!
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Go find a Pie KDZ thread or the Frankenstein instructions thread. Use the Dev Patched LGUP from there. Instructions are also there.
cant find Dev Patched LGUP download link
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You need Dev Patched LGUP compatible with Pie.
You need to update to newest Dev Patched LGUP found in any of the Pie KDZ threads I maintain. Also found in Frankenstein thread.
Uninstall any prior version. Read Installation instructions carefully!
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can you please give us a link? I could'nt find Dev Patched LGUP in your threads, Thank you
lamepsycho said:
can you please give us a link? I could'nt find Dev Patched LGUP in your threads, Thank you
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It's in every one of ChazzMatt's ROM threads as well as the Frankenstein and Root threads (in the ROM and Guide sections).
Don't get me wrong, but it is hard to imagine that you couldn't find it if you spent any time looking in those sections.
Edit: I'll post a link for you later today or tomorrow if you really can't find it. Please make an effort first.
Edit2: Since you didn't post back, I assume you must have found it. Otherwise the offer still stands.
Thank you for the kind offer
TheDannemand said:
It's in every one of ChazzMatt's ROM threads as well as the Frankenstein and Root threads (in the ROM and Guide sections).
Don't get me wrong, but it is hard to imagine that you couldn't find it if you spent any time looking in those sections.
Edit: I'll post a link for you later today or tomorrow if you really can't find it. Please make an effort first.
Edit2: Since you didn't post back, I assume you must have found it. Otherwise the offer still stands.
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Yes, you are right. I found the link after the post but forgot to mention that. I'll post the link incase someone like me visits
DUAL VERSION OF DEV PATCHED LGUP, made by @tecknight
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=11410963190603845019
I have not checked it yet as I've been busy lately. I'll definitely post about it as soon as I get a chance to check it out.
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Yes, you are right. I found the link after the post but forgot to mention that. I'll post the link incase someone like me visits
DUAL VERSION OF DEV PATCHED LGUP, made by @tecknight
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=11410963190603845019
I have not checked it yet as I've been busy lately. I'll definitely post about it as soon as I get a chance to check it out.
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I also have it attached to every post where I have the link. Each post has detailed installation instructions.
I managed to downgrade my f800L successfully after setting LGUP to Dev mode, this really works! Hurrah! thank you, whoever deserves credit
lamepsycho said:
I managed to downgrade my f800L successfully after setting LGUP to Dev mode, this really works! Hurrah! thank you, whoever deserves credit
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Hope I can do that as well... Just absolutely annoying that I got something working and then out of nowhere just because I updated to A9 it quit working out of the sudden. Like give me a break, I have enough issues already to sort out to figure out how to free it from the Tyranny of bull**** companies. I have a F800K... Hopefully I can get this working and flash it back to A7.
Okay I seem to get to the point where I am close to breaking my phone with a hammer. Like using so much time on getting something to work just wanted to try out A9 and now getting this issue... Like come on!
I need some help here.
I have the V20 F800K and I need to downgrade it for rooting, and now with A9 I can't seem to downgrade it.
Help needed... Sick and tired of this nonsense of wasting hours and hours on something that should be as easy as eating pie.
lamepsycho said:
I managed to downgrade my f800L successfully after setting LGUP to Dev mode, this really works! Hurrah! thank you, whoever deserves credit
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Help me, what applications and what did you do?
What version, which did you install first, and so forth. Should be somewhat of the same with my F800K
[B]ChazzMatt[/B] you are absolutely no help to us newbies! Like I don't have enough problems, yea find it yourself sort of thing, has never been valuable in my book. That is not how you make people learn. While people are lead they learn, not like - figure it out yourself, that takes a lot longer then just giving a helping hand. I never understood people who have this idea, just figure it out yourself, its really not that hard... yea.... when you know it is not hard.
Like we don't already have 100 tabs open to listen and figure things out, in this grand mess of how to do it. Just load some more on people, and see people break.
ChazzMatt said:
You need Dev Patched LGUP compatible with Pie.
You need to update to newest Dev Patched LGUP found in any of the Pie KDZ threads I maintain. Also found in Frankenstein thread.
Uninstall any prior version. Read Installation instructions carefully!
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And not a single Link for any of the threads, THANKS!
I don't know why I'm bothering to reply as you don't seem to be a reasonable person, but I'll give it a shot anyway.
First off, if you can't handle search and finding info yourself, then you shouldn't hack your phone. We're not here to hand hold people for every little thing.
Secondly, we don't live on the forums, so posting your nonsense every few minutes is just going to aggravate people who could help you. Sometimes I will help people who are not able to find things themselves, but you're being very unreasonable so I have no desire to try.
Thirdly, you seem to be talking about a V20 phone... this is the V30 forum. If you can't find the right forum to post your question, you REALLY shouldn't try to use these tools. Yes, LGUP is probably cross platform in this sense, but again, I don't care to try.
Finally, you hijack a thread and then complain about the very people you want help from? Seriously?
Bottom line, this process is unofficial and tricky. We're not here to handhold you through the process any more than the referenced, excellent posts already do. You clearly cannot follow directions, can't search, and can't find well placed and very obvious threads (I know for a fact that WTF thread is at the TOP of the forum section, because I just saw it there). Yes, we want to help, but if you can't be bothered to make an effort, and then want to complain about everyone, then you're not going to find any help here... certainly none from me. Consider yourself blocked.
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[B]ChazzMatt[/B] you are absolutely no help to us newbies! Like I don't have enough problems, yea find it yourself sort of thing, has never been valuable in my book. That is not how you make people learn. While people are lead they learn, not like - figure it out yourself, that takes a lot longer then just giving a helping hand. I never understood people who have this idea, just figure it out yourself, its really not that hard... yea.... when you know it is not hard.
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I can tell you are not actually reading, otherwise you wouldn't have said what you did.
Go up and read Post #4 where I posted a link to the entire solution with links and explanation. Why did you not read that?
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I can tell you are not actually reading, otherwise you wouldn't have said what you did.
Go up and read Post #4 where I posted a link to the entire solution with links and explanation. Why did you not read that?
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I did, but there is so much so I might have missed it. Had 3 or more tabs open on the subject trying to sort it out. I did sort it out, and I did try the dual file... Whatever the case I did not get it to work. But I did find another solution for my V20 F800K. I'll attach the files for anyone who needs it.
Install MSI first and then copy over the files in the folder pie! And you should be able to downgrade version 9 to version 7. Just tiering with all these files and this and that. This seems to do it for me overall, with whatever I wanna fix it with. A7 8 or 9
Anyway, I am moved to a lot of other issues having solved it. I seem to have rooted my phone yet, now I have a lot of other issues as I can't update to version 8 it seems now that I am rooted because of Google crazy.