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First of all thank you Oasis for creating a tool to fix things that shouldn't be broken to begin with! You are an example for a lot of developers :good:
I've read the first couple of posts on the original thread but I still have a few things that are not clear..
The advice of Oasis himself is too hibernate only those apps that misbehave. He states that hibernating apps will also remove them from the memory, which will come with a performance/cpu usage penalty when you want to use them again.
In the video tutorial however Josh greenifies almost every application that doesn't need push notifications.
So this would mean that when I use an application that doesn't have notifications but I open frequently, for example Nu.nl, a dutch newsapp, it will always have to reload the app from scratch instead of loading it from memory?
So baically the best way to use Greenify would be to NOT just greenify most apps, but to use the analyzer frequently and see what's running in the background and greenify those that don't depend on notifications?
Then newsapps that don't push news, image viewers, file managers, system tools like SD Maid and simple games that don't use internet should be ok not being greenified?
Is there no big list available of apps that misbehave or are safe to keep de-greenified?
Thanks in advance for any help on this.
Basically you got it right. Use the built-in analyzer as well as disable service and autostarts to check apps' behaviour. For my experience, sometimes is better to disable a background service than greenify an app, if the app "misbehave" for this service only (of course you'll have to check if the app still works). An example: guaranteedhttpservice and tracksyncservice in shazam...
marchrius said:
Basically you got it right. Use the built-in analyzer as well as disable service and autostarts to check apps' behaviour. For my experience, sometimes is better to disable a background service than greenify an app, if the app "misbehave" for this service only (of course you'll have to check if the app still works). An example: guaranteedhttpservice and tracksyncservice in shazam...
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Where can I find and disable things like tracksyncservice? I also use Shazam but I can't find both services you mentioned in Greenify nor TiB?
latino147 said:
Where can I find and disable things like tracksyncservice? I also use Shazam but I can't find both services you mentioned in Greenify nor TiB?
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"Disable Service" (and "Autostarts") from play store.
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"Disable Service" (and "Autostarts") from play store.
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Ah, I believed those were two functions withing Greenify I couldn't find
wtf, FB has 62! services! None of them where active though, until you open the app, then it was 3.
So you can choose between greenifying an app which will basically kill all services from an app, even background services on one hand, and choosing specifically which services too disable, like you did with Shazam.
The only issue with this second method being that you don't always really know what these services do.
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So you can choose between greenifying an app which will basically kill all services from an app, even background services on one hand, and choosing specifically which services too disable, like you did with Shazam.
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Exactly. Take google play services for example. If you greenify it, you'll lose gcm and other functions and that's not advisable at all (in fact greenify hides it). But with disable service (and autostarts/system tuner)you can choose what to disable while still mantaining gcm, location services (when needed), sync etc. I can' remember what I did in system tuner regarding gplay services (I followed some tutorial), but with disable service I disabled analyticsservice (this one will reactivate itself unless you do some tweak with system tuner), refreshenabledstateservice, playlogreportingservice, googlehttpservice, playlogbrokerservice, adrequestbrokerservice, gcmschedulerwakeupservice, advertisingidservice, adsmeasurementservice, locationwearablelistenerservice, nlplocationreceiverservice, geocodeservice, dispatchingservice and playlogservice. A reboot is needed. Haven't lost a single function since weeks (gcm, location, autosync and every google app in general are working 100% fine).
Same story with play store. Apps wake it very often, so greenify it does more harm than good. Instead, you can disable pendingnotificationsservice, contentsyncservice and dailyhygiene (and will still be fully functional).
Of course these are little tips to increase performance and battery life even more. I use greenify for 90% and more of apps that "misbehave" and disable service/autostarts/system tuner for the remaining 10% "misbehaving" apps. However, an app "fixed" with such methods will stay cached while with greenify is completely closed (resulting in more cpu/time/battery consumption when loaded again).
The only issue with this second method being that you don't always really know what these services do.
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Like I already said, for general purposes you'd better simply greenify the "misbehaving" apps. If you use it/it is woken very often, you can consider these methods.
Yes, it's a "trial and error" thing. Unless you're disabling services with self-explainatory names such as "pushservice".
Never installed Facebook official app but I heard many times that is a notorious hogger and takes many personal datas too, for which you can look for xprivacy xposed module as well.
I'll start experimenting with it today :good:
anyone know what are the system applications that can be safely greenify
xperia sp
prabasha said:
anyone know what are the system applications that can be safely greenify
xperia sp
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None...
They all carry risk
All may not have risks but all have consequences and some have risks and some others serious risks.
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anyone know what are the system applications that can be safely greenify
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You can greenify google playstore but dont greenify google play services.
my playstore is not working now after i greenify it
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All fine ,thanks!
naik2902 said:
You can greenify google playstore but dont greenify google play services.
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Err why not?
berryman13 said:
Err why not?
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It will give you more problems that are related to the gservices.
berryman13 said:
Err why not?
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If u greenify play services then u want get push messages related to google apps. Moreover its not possible to hibernate it. Its perceptible n wakes up all the time.
naik2902 said:
If u greenify play services then u want get push messages related to google apps. Moreover its not possible to hibernate it. Its perceptible n wakes up all the time.
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That is not true. It is possible to hibernate Playservices. I have done it and no problems for the last three months. However I don't use Whatsapp or Facebook so no idea about effect on them.
You simply select 'ignore state for hibernation'.
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That is not true. It is possible to hibernate Playservices. I have done it and no problems for the last three months. However I don't use Whatsapp or Facebook so no idea about effect on them.
You simply select 'ignore state for hibernation'.
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Lucky for you, I experience multiple errors including play store unable to detect a network connection, apps won't allow me to purchase something (probably to the connection problem) and worse of all battery draining.
I also got those issues when I tried to cut off the links in Playservices and Playstore. I even got random reboots though no battery drain.
But now I do not touch the links, merely greenify these two ignoring their state.
May be you can try this?
Can you safely greenify gmail ?
w00cash88 said:
Can you safely greenify gmail ?
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What do you mean by "safely"?
Better to change the options in Gmail.
It's actually working when it comes to manually hibernating the apps but it won't automatically hibernate apps when on sleep no matter how long it was. Any workaround for this or is there something that I've missed? It was working fine when I was still on my rooted KK.
My phone is Xperia z3 Compact (D5833).
dane_xperia said:
It's actually working when it comes to manually hibernating the apps but it won't automatically hibernate apps when on sleep no matter how long it was. Any workaround for this or is there something that I've missed? It was working fine when I was still on my rooted KK.
My phone is Xperia z3 Compact (D5833).
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I also sometimes have this but only with system apps. Third party apps have no issue.
From observing the SuperSU logs, I find that Greenify fired and closed the apps but when you open Greenify, they will be shown as running the whole time. May be it is an issue with how they are reported when you open Greenify.
I am running Greenify in Boost mode with official Xposed and donation pack on 5.0.1 in a Nexus 4.
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I also sometimes have this but only with system apps. Third party apps have no issue.
From observing the SuperSU logs, I find that Greenify fired and closed the apps but when you open Greenify, they will be shown as running the whole time. May be it is an issue with how they are reported when you open Greenify.
I am running Greenify in Boost mode with official Xposed and donation pack on 5.0.1 in a Nexus 4.
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Well in my case, I opened Clash of clans, closed it, then put my phone to sleep for 30mins. I did not remove it from the running services tab/ nor did I hibernate it. I went back to see if it was hibernated automatically but it wasn't and I also checked SuperSU, it did not show anything with regards to greenify.
Hi,
I am using the latest Greenify version (donation package) v2.6.2 in order to hybernate some apps causing wakelocks when my phone is in stand-by mode. I was also trying to hybernate all the google apps, such as google play store or google play services, which worked out perfectly by cutting off some reactivation paths.
In order to update my apps weekly or monthly I wanted to take these apps from the greenify list, which was successful at first glance. However, I am now facing problems in regreenifying them, especially when it comes to the google play services. I have no idea why, but this times greenify always tells me that it fails to hybernate google play services for no apparent reason. Also it does not show me the scissors tool to cut off the wakelock paths.
Has anybody of you experienced the same problems? Is there any solution for my problem? Thank you for your help!
If you use beta 5, that's why:
Beta 5
Foreground app no longer hibernates even if "state always ignored" is checked.
Reduced the impacts of wake-up cut-off.
FIX: Native processes cleaning.
FIX: Wake-up action in Tasker plug-in on Android 5.x.
FIX: No longer list disabled apps.
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MihaiSG said:
If you use beta 5, that's why:
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Actually not, I am using version 2.6.2 according to the application.
I have seen problems after I hibernate an app called " Google App" similar issues
Still the same problem. Reinstallation of greenify and Xposed didn't work out, unfortunately. Did they change something inside of greenify without a new version?
Team - I am running the latest version of greenify posted on the playstore. I've followed guides for enabling agressive doze on android 6.0 on my moto x pure (non root) -- including adbing to the device to grant permissions on the app. It seems to be working most of the time. The device seems to go to sleep and i've seen a great increase in battery. However, seemingly randomly i'll notice battery draining fast. When i look at my usage its google play services keeping the device awake 100% of the time. If i reboot the phone, google play services stops doing that and all is well for awhile, till it repeats. I've been unable to find the cause of this. I imagine i'm missing some information that we might need to track this down. thanks in advance!
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Team - I am running the latest version of greenify posted on the playstore. I've followed guides for enabling agressive doze on android 6.0 on my moto x pure (non root) -- including adbing to the device to grant permissions on the app. It seems to be working most of the time. The device seems to go to sleep and i've seen a great increase in battery. However, seemingly randomly i'll notice battery draining fast. When i look at my usage its google play services keeping the device awake 100% of the time. If i reboot the phone, google play services stops doing that and all is well for awhile, till it repeats. I've been unable to find the cause of this. I imagine i'm missing some information that we might need to track this down. thanks in advance!
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That may not have anything to do with Greenify unless you have greenified Play Services. If you have, remove it from hibernation.
Usually Play Services will go berserk upon updating itself in the background. What you can try is clear it's data and cache and reboot. If you have TWRP, do it in recovery. If not, do it in Settings>Apps.
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That may not have anything to do with Greenify unless you have greenified Play Services. If you have, remove it from hibernation.
Usually Play Services will go berserk upon updating itself in the background. What you can try is clear it's data and cache and reboot. If you have TWRP, do it in recovery. If not, do it in Settings>Apps.
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Thanks for the info. Here's what i've done:
I removed greenify, performed the actions you suggested and left greenify off for about 12 hours. No issues with google play services and keep awake. I reinstalled greenify and everything was good for a number of hours. Unfortunately the play services keep awake started again about 3.5 hours ago. The phone has a solid 'awake' bar in battery settings and play services is the culprit with 3.5 hours awake. While i dont blame greenify, there's some sort of correlation of events here that I can't explain.
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Thanks for the info. Here's what i've done:
I removed greenify, performed the actions you suggested and left greenify off for about 12 hours. No issues with google play services and keep awake. I reinstalled greenify and everything was good for a number of hours. Unfortunately the play services keep awake started again about 3.5 hours ago. The phone has a solid 'awake' bar in battery settings and play services is the culprit with 3.5 hours awake. While i dont blame greenify, there's some sort of correlation of events here that I can't explain.
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Do you have Xposed? If so, install AppOpsXposed and untick the "Keep Awake" function of Play Services. Another thing you can try is uninstalling the update to the Play Services, reboot and then manually update it and again reboot.
If it is still not arrested, Google is your friend.
Unfortunately I've the same problem on my OnePlus 2 with stock ROM. I've installed Greenify two days ago, and enabled aggressive doze with amazing results! Last night I enabled Doze on the Go (using ADB) and since unplugging my phone this morning there is this constant wakelock of Google Play Services. Disabling Doze on the Go as well as reinstalling Greenify didn't help. Looking forward to a solution!
This is a known problem. Sometimes it's worse and sometimes less, but Google Play Services is a known offender in this manner. And Google processes in general. Part of the reason for this is that Google often wakes up your device, periodically, to track your location (horrible, yes, and it continued to happen for me even when all Google location options I could find, as well as GPS, were turned off).
Solutions that have reportedly worked for some people in the past (try one at a time or all of them) - they don't require root:
-Make sure you do not Greenify/freeze/hibernate Google Play Services, or similar processes, as this may make the issue worse.
-Clear cache and data of Google Play Services.
-Manually update Google Play Services to latest APK version available from your device, downloaded from the web. Make sure you select the right version for you. http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-services
-Try turning off as many Google background features as you can, such as location tracking/history, etc.
I guess some of these steps may only work after the next reboot, so reboot the device when you're done.
But as I said, this process is a known big offender. The above may not work, or may work temporarily. The stronger and more permanent solutions require root (you don't really need to try the above options if you do these). The more of them you do, the less 'keep awake' you should experience:
-Install Xposed Installer app and install Xposed Framework, so you can use the modules mentioned below...
-Use AppOpsXposed module (or CM Privacy Guard if you have it) to deny keep awake permission to Google Play Services, and other Google background apps.
-This is a big one: Install Amplify (Xposed module) from the Play Store, and it will automatically take care of limiting Google wakelocks. That's it. If you pay for the pro version, then you can additionally tweak and limit all wakelocks, alarms and services on your device (pretty cool and useful, but more involved, so for advanced users).
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-This is a big one: Install Amplify (Xposed module) from the Play Store, and it will automatically take care of limiting Google wakelocks. That's it. If you pay for the pro version, then you can additionally tweak and limit all wakelocks, alarms and services on your device (pretty cool and useful, but more involved, so for advanced users).
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The unpaid version of Amplify will block a maximum of a couple of wakelocks related to location. Only the pro version is capable of blocking other wakelocks and alarms including those of Play Services. But as you said, it is not automatic and you will have to set it up.
Any updates on this?
Google play services is awful
MSK1 said:
Any updates on this?
Google play services is awful
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Not a Greenify issue. Some devices/ROMs/configs seem more susceptible to GPS runaway. Clearing GPS cache+data on occasion followed by an immediate reboot has proven helpful for some. Good luck.