Hey all. I'm looking to upgrade my S5 but I don't need the latest & greatest. So I'm looking at the V10. Seems pretty solid. Root is available, and no apparent issues I believe (I know the G4 had the notorious bootloop issue with some firmware I think... but I haven't read of anything major with the V10. Can anyone confirm?), etc.
The V10 is selling for really cheap on eBay and other websites (Swappa, etc). Pretty much in the low $200s. I would expect a higher price for this phone (Even used).
Any idea why? Just curious.
Resale popularity is built on an optimum STOCK device,. Those who want to buy a device and just it, hate the LG user interface.
At $200 used there is no better devics OR qaulity music player on the planet. Its crazy how much device you can get for $200
There is only one rom, but a stock rooted rom, with a few addons like xposed, and g4 tweaksbox make this a GREAT device imo,. Its not perfect though, but at $200 it is,
Got mines off ebay for 227 refurbished T-Mobile good esn 64gb not bad at all
I paid 300 a few months back, even at that price i was and still am more than happy with it - welcome to our forum!
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This phone was priced to undercut the Note 5 probably, so it's always been a little cheaper. I suppose low 200's is analogous to Note 5's selling for maybe 350-400 now? But yeah, this is a lotta phone for a decent price. It's a great option or sure!
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You see people fussing about the lack of support for this phone but I got it for $225 off ebay "refurbished" by a cell phone dealer....it looked brand new. LG is selling a battery and charger for $20 total. The phone has root, xposed and TWRP. What more do folks need? There's an xposed module for just about anything now and all the ones I tried (with the exception of trying to change the power menu...I added a standalone app to get to reboot to recovery and bootloader) work without issue...the V10 doesn't like you changing the system dpi but the xposed app settings module lets you set the dpi per app and fixes this without issue. What's not to love?
It would be nice if we have more active development but on the other hand it keeps me from monkeying with the phone which ensures I continue to have a stable rom on my primary phone (cell phone only).
Coming from an Alcatel Idol 3 I surely appreciate stability. Their stock rom was laggy and prone to overheating/reboots. None of which the V10 has to deal with. I've become pretty fond of the fingerprint to unlock lockscreen and apps too. Specifically not having to enter the password for keepass more than once. About the only thing I'd like to see if a full 6.01 instead of the 6.0 v20J stuff.
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You see people fussing about the lack of support for this phone but I got it for $225 off ebay "refurbished" by a cell phone dealer....it looked brand new. LG is selling a battery and charger for $20 total. The phone has root, xposed and TWRP. What more do folks need? There's an xposed module for just about anything now and all the ones I tried (with the exception of trying to change the power menu...I added a standalone app to get to reboot to recovery and bootloader) work without issue...the V10 doesn't like you changing the system dpi but the xposed app settings module lets you set the dpi per app and fixes this without issue. What's not to love?
It would be nice if we have more active development but on the other hand it keeps me from monkeying with the phone which ensures I continue to have a stable rom on my primary phone (cell phone only).
Coming from an Alcatel Idol 3 I surely appreciate stability. Their stock rom was laggy and prone to overheating/reboots. None of which the V10 has to deal with. I've become pretty fond of the fingerprint to unlock lockscreen and apps too. Specifically not having to enter the password for keepass more than once. About the only thing I'd like to see if a full 6.01 instead of the 6.0 v20J stuff.
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I got mine for 240 off of CL. It has been very decent so far aside from battery life but I think I've fixed it a little with xposed and some tweaks found here.......what's the xposed module for dpi per app you mentioned here?
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I got mine for 240 off of CL. It has been very decent so far aside from battery life but I think I've fixed it a little with xposed and some tweaks found here.......what's the xposed module for dpi per app you mentioned here?
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The module is called "app settings".
Just got one for a steal at $160 on OfferUp with original box and charger, 200 GB SanDisk class 10 memory card, brand new tempered screen protector and two Incipio cases. Condition about 9/10. Couldn't be happier with the deal :victory:
goodness the V10's are not even a year old and are basically worthless.
Talk about depreciation. Suprised you also got the 200gb card thrown in, whoa
They're cheap because the Snapdragon 808 being based on stock ARM Cortex (instead of Krait) cores is dog**** slow. I just bought a V10 after a year and a half with a Asus Zenfone 2 and everything else about this phone's hardware is sublime. Asus' stock ROM though feels a lot more like stock Android with GREAT OEM add-ons (built-in Boot manager, RAM cleaner, f.Lux-like display filtering, awesome manual mode camera, etc.). The LG software is a step backwards overall despite jumping from 5.1 to 6.0 on Android versions, but not as encumbered as say TouchWiz.
Despite being nearly a year older and only a quad-core AND the fact that Android is poorly optimized for x86, the Intel z3580 kills the Cortex cores in CPU and RAM intensive tasks. That said, the V10 will run circles around the Zenfone 2 in games and general purpose purely by virtue of reasonable drivers for the Adreno GPU vs PowerVR with bad (IP encumbered) Linux drivers. Further, the feel of the V10 in hand is miles better than anything else with the possible exception of the S7.
The V10 is unusable with non-LG (based) ROMs which will kill the value of any phone. All of the high resale value phones have a vibrant ROM community. We're stuck with LG stock plus Xposed and that keeps this phone out of the hardcore portion of the XDA community who change phones like underwear and help keep demand high.
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My 2.5 yo Galaxy S3 dropped dead, broken screen. Went into best buy and got G3.
Initially, I liked everything. I thought it will be bulky considering the size, but surprisingly slim and light.
First 2 days, battery drain prob. I disabled the touch sound which was probably causing wakelocks.
Then, still the battery kind of was disappointing but I was alright with it.
I loaded eclipse rom and it felt great overall. However, I didn't know that G3 had some lag issues.
I went ahead and saw Z3v in the store. Very snappy with the same processor compared to G3.
So I keep thinking, should I return G3(which was free with contract) or get a Z3v ($200 extra money).
The positive side of using G3 : Unlocked bootloader, tons of ROMS, customizations, tweaks. Free with contract
Negative side: Still laggy on verizon models, battery disappointment
Positive side of using Z3v: Snippier phone, I like the design of the phone
Negative side: Z3v is essentially a Z2. However heavier than Z2 or Z3, so little bit bulkier. Locked bootloader, no root, tons of Verizon bloatware. It is a minority phone so that it won't get much attention and there is a chance that it will never be rootable. $200 extra money
Help me choose please?
download greenify from play store, that helps...
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Unless Eclipse allows you to use a kernel try a different stock based rom(Skydragon, Jasmine) and add skydragon kernel for stock based roms. It'll help smooth out most of the lag, fix the over sharpening on the display, and increase battery life. I would search the eclipse thread and see if the skydragon kernel works on that rom.
EDIT - skydragon works on eclipse.
Also, try amplify wakelock blocker(in play store) for better standby time. You need to install xposed for it to work though. If you don't want to block wakelocks entirely you can limit the amount of time they wake your phone up so you wont lose any functionality. Those two tweaks should make you a little happier with your G3.
Hey everyone. Some of you may have seen me before on various LG forums, like the Optimus G, and the G2 (I've definitely seen some of you guys before on the OG forums), and I have a question for you guys who own the Sprint G3. Are you guys happy with your device? Like ROM wise, battery life, the entire experience in general. As of today March 1st, I'm eligible for an upgrade, and I was thinking of getting the G3. But I've been ghosting around the forums to spot any rooting quirks and goofs, and I've seen some regarding data on custom ROMs and stuff, which I'm kinda on the fence about. I'm planning on keeping my N5 for the AOSP ROMs, but this phone has terrible battery life, compared to the G2 I've owned for two weeks before I permanently switched to the N5. I see there's a decent selection of AOSP ROMs available for the G3, but I'm not too worried about that because I have my Nexus.
Tl;Dr: are you guys happy with your G3, and do you think its worth the upgrade, or should I wait for new devices to come out?
Get on GSM if you can. This CDMA crap has an always be problematic. GSM phones get way more love than the stupid sprint cdma garbage. We have great stuff going on here. Yet still better support for GSM. Battery life is great and the phone rocks.
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As for me I am seriously contemplating getting a Nexus 6 just so I can get stock android without CDMA problems. All I want is stock. If I had the knowledge to make this phone what I want I would. I do not so I am at the will of others. No complaints though. So much great stuff has happened for this LS990.
As a previous owner of several G2's (Sprint variants) I'm happy that I now have a G3 finally (and yes it's the Sprint model). Having said that, I'm currently "stuck" at the moment because of a damaged digitizer but I'll be ordering a new display assembly here in short order hopefully.
Comparing the G3 vs the N5 directly it's pretty blatantly obvious that the G3 is vastly superior in most every respect that matters - I'm wondering if you meant to say the N6 instead because that would be more aligned in a comparison in terms of hardware:
- same resolution screens albeit LCD vs AMOLED, 5.5" vs 5.96" - the G3 "looks" sharper because of the much higher PPI at 538 vs 493 for the N6 - I have two friends that own an N6 at this time and the one thing I hear from them most often is they love the color saturation of the AMOLED panel but they wish it was LCD because in direct sunlight the AMOLED just washes out pretty severely, and I am the same way: I love AMOLED color representation but outside in daylight, forget it, the G3 wins without question (my opinion based on my own usage and experience, however)
- the N6 is technically more powerful with the Snapdragon 805 at 2.7 GHz vs the G3 with the 801 at 2.5 GHz but the difference is negligible in actual day to day performance
- 3GB of RAM in each device (given you have the 32GB model from Sprint) so that's a draw
- form factor isn't that different save for getting used to the G3 having the rear mounted controls, it takes a little getting used to but in the long run I've come to find it works fine for me after that "honeymoon" period
- pure stock Android on the N6 vs the very nicely themed G3 experience, this one is simply a personal preference and nothing more: I prefer the G3's UI actually; when I had my G2(s) over the past year I ran CloudyG3 on them (now properly renamed to CloudyG2, however) and loved it. I can see why people prefer the stock Android even in spite of them using some third party launcher like Nova or something else even so
- microSD slot for increased storage + the removable battery pushes the G3 into the lead for me, however - I'm not saying it's better automagically just because the hardware supports it, I'm saying that for me it's better because I prefer such aspects in my smartphones, those two things were lacking in the G2 and I'm happy that LG came around and added them because it makes the G3 nearly perfect to me (I wish it just had a 1920x1080 display, however)
- battery life is an important aspect as well and I'm confident that the G3 with Lollipop (since it's now available, even for the Sprint variant) should get improved battery life (there's that memory glitch with 5.0.1 but I'm sure it'll be addressed soon enough). Can't speak for the N5 or the N6 with respect to battery life but I'm pretty sure the G3 may give better results. GSMArena gave the N6 a 70 hour endurance rating and the G3 a 63 in the same test, so they're very similar overall depending on usage
Also realize that because of how the G3 is designed with the back-mounted buttons, the 5.5" display on it and the entire casing of the G3 takes up less space than the N6 does - the N6 is a very large device overall, a monster sized phone these days so that may play into your decision as well. There's a size comparison at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBrbCB50wJ0 - pretty dramatic difference.
But these kinds of comparisons are a dime a dozen these days, you've probably done the research already anyway, iamterence, so none of this is really new. What you have to decide is only something you can decide, as the case may be:
Which device suits your needs and requirements best...
What I suggest to people is sit down for a few minutes and do a pros/cons list of the things you need and require a smartphone in today's world to do for you given your usage expectations, then find a device that most closely matches the pros while having the least cons. It takes a while to do it obviously but when you're done you should have a lock on which device will be your choice.
If it's the G3 vs the N5, I'll take the G3 anytime. If it's the G3 vs the N6, I'd still take the G3 because I just prefer what it offers - pure stock Android on a Nexus is a nice thing, but it's lacking to me in many respects.
Also, I do agree with what was said above about the CDMA vs GSM thing overall but the G2 and the G3 really don't have much issues with getting GSM functionality. I personally can't stand LTE for various reasons but that's another thread altogether, so for me using HSPA+ on these devices is better in my situation and gives me 35Mbps or better where I live in Las Vegas which is pretty much saturated by T-Mobile service (my carrier of choice). If your intention - as a Sprint customer - is to use the device with that carrier then that whole CDMA vs GSM thing is a moot point anyway. If, however, you hope to use the device with another provider based on AT&T or T-Mobile's networks aka GSM then understand that unlocking the domestic GSM usage for the G3 isn't that tough at all, really.
Again, do the list, find what you need and require then match it.
I'd say grab the G3 and run with it but, you're the one that has to make the final decision.
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KnockOn/KnockOff/KnockCode... once you start using it you will seriously wonder why every smartphone hasn't been doing this since day one.
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As a previous owner of several G2's (Sprint variants) I'm happy that I now have a G3 finally (and yes it's the Sprint model). Having said that, I'm currently "stuck" at the moment because of a damaged digitizer but I'll be ordering a new display assembly here in short order hopefully.
Comparing the G3 vs the N5 directly it's pretty blatantly obvious that the G3 is vastly superior in most every respect that matters - I'm wondering if you meant to say the N6 instead because that would be more aligned in a comparison in terms of hardware:
- same resolution screens albeit LCD vs AMOLED, 5.5" vs 5.96" - the G3 "looks" sharper because of the much higher PPI at 538 vs 493 for the N6 - I have two friends that own an N6 at this time and the one thing I hear from them most often is they love the color saturation of the AMOLED panel but they wish it was LCD because in direct sunlight the AMOLED just washes out pretty severely, and I am the same way: I love AMOLED color representation but outside in daylight, forget it, the G3 wins without question (my opinion based on my own usage and experience, however)
- the N6 is technically more powerful with the Snapdragon 805 at 2.7 GHz vs the G3 with the 801 at 2.5 GHz but the difference is negligible in actual day to day performance
- 3GB of RAM in each device (given you have the 32GB model from Sprint) so that's a draw
- form factor isn't that different save for getting used to the G3 having the rear mounted controls, it takes a little getting used to but in the long run I've come to find it works fine for me after that "honeymoon" period
- pure stock Android on the N6 vs the very nicely themed G3 experience, this one is simply a personal preference and nothing more: I prefer the G3's UI actually; when I had my G2(s) over the past year I ran CloudyG3 on them (now properly renamed to CloudyG2, however) and loved it. I can see why people prefer the stock Android even in spite of them using some third party launcher like Nova or something else even so
- microSD slot for increased storage + the removable battery pushes the G3 into the lead for me, however - I'm not saying it's better automagically just because the hardware supports it, I'm saying that for me it's better because I prefer such aspects in my smartphones, those two things were lacking in the G2 and I'm happy that LG came around and added them because it makes the G3 nearly perfect to me (I wish it just had a 1920x1080 display, however)
- battery life is an important aspect as well and I'm confident that the G3 with Lollipop (since it's now available, even for the Sprint variant) should get improved battery life (there's that memory glitch with 5.0.1 but I'm sure it'll be addressed soon enough). Can't speak for the N5 or the N6 with respect to battery life but I'm pretty sure the G3 may give better results. GSMArena gave the N6 a 70 hour endurance rating and the G3 a 63 in the same test, so they're very similar overall depending on usage
Also realize that because of how the G3 is designed with the back-mounted buttons, the 5.5" display on it and the entire casing of the G3 takes up less space than the N6 does - the N6 is a very large device overall, a monster sized phone these days so that may play into your decision as well. There's a size comparison at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBrbCB50wJ0 - pretty dramatic difference.
But these kinds of comparisons are a dime a dozen these days, you've probably done the research already anyway, iamterence, so none of this is really new. What you have to decide is only something you can decide, as the case may be:
Which device suits your needs and requirements best...
What I suggest to people is sit down for a few minutes and do a pros/cons list of the things you need and require a smartphone in today's world to do for you given your usage expectations, then find a device that most closely matches the pros while having the least cons. It takes a while to do it obviously but when you're done you should have a lock on which device will be your choice.
If it's the G3 vs the N5, I'll take the G3 anytime. If it's the G3 vs the N6, I'd still take the G3 because I just prefer what it offers - pure stock Android on a Nexus is a nice thing, but it's lacking to me in many respects.
Also, I do agree with what was said above about the CDMA vs GSM thing overall but the G2 and the G3 really don't have much issues with getting GSM functionality. I personally can't stand LTE for various reasons but that's another thread altogether, so for me using HSPA+ on these devices is better in my situation and gives me 35Mbps or better where I live in Las Vegas which is pretty much saturated by T-Mobile service (my carrier of choice). If your intention - as a Sprint customer - is to use the device with that carrier then that whole CDMA vs GSM thing is a moot point anyway. If, however, you hope to use the device with another provider based on AT&T or T-Mobile's networks aka GSM then understand that unlocking the domestic GSM usage for the G3 isn't that tough at all, really.
Again, do the list, find what you need and require then match it.
I'd say grab the G3 and run with it but, you're the one that has to make the final decision.
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KnockOn/KnockOff/KnockCode... once you start using it you will seriously wonder why every smartphone hasn't been doing this since day one.
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You say that you're stick with Sprint because you have a damaged digitizer for your G3; is that because you flashed a ROM, or what? Because I remember back on the G2 forums, there was a VERY widespread screen damage problem that happened to a lot of people who flashed ROMs, and even to people who didn't. If that's a problem here as well, then I am instantly turned off, because that problem is just beyond stupid.
I know that GSM devices get mostly all the love as well, being stuck on CDMA myself for the past 3 years and counting. But the way I view it as: since I already have a Nexus device, with the G3, I'm actually gonna take the chance to appreciate stock debloated software, and maybe go AOSP if I'm feeling bored, but I plan on keeping my Nexus just in case I feel like going back to AOSP. But, to be completely honest though, AOSP gets a little boring after a while. See, I like minimal ROMs. I've flash a lot of ROMs on my device, but I always find myself coming back to near-vanilla ROMs, because I'm just not into all those features like that. Just give me a theme engine/RRO support, and maybe even a center clock mod, and I'm good to go.
Speaking of RRO, are there any ROMs here that support that yet? I really haven't looker, but Layers themes are AMAZING. I feel like they run more efficiently than the theme engine, but that can be a strictly placebo affect. If not, I know there's definitely theme engine, so I'm good either ways.
I'm actually kinda leaning towards the G3 myself now, and have been for a little while now. I guess I just needed something to solidify my decision. Really not into HTC phones, nor am I a big fan of Touchwiz, even with their clean slate revisiting. LG phones have never done me any wrong (Well, except for the G2 with it's screen problems), and we didn't get a 2nd gen Moto X, otherwise I'd hop on that in a heartbeat. The Nexus 6 is WAY too goddamn big for me, like way past my comfort zone. I travel across the country in a touring metal band, so something stupid would be bound to happen if I were to get that phone. I'd feel a lot more safer with that phone than with the goddamn whale that is the N6. But, like I said, I'd be getting the G3 to actually appreciate the stock LG software rather than trying to go nuts with AOSP.
If anything, if I don't like the G3, I'll just sell it for $250 or something.
No, I bought it with a cracked digitizer for $50 - the G3 itself is without any noticeable flaws and works great but the digitizer being cracked and non-functional leaves me with a device I can't use till I replace that (meaning the entire display assembly since the LCD and digitizer are fused; technically it's possible to separate them but I lack the expertise and the necessary hardware plus it's just not worth the hassles). The G2 issues in the past were an actual manufacturing defect on some particular devices, iirc, I could be wrong about that but it had something to do with specific LCD panels made by a specific manufacturer - it wasn't directly LG's fault, I mean, at least that's what I remember. There was an app you could run that would ID the exact panel in your G2 and then you'd know whether or not you might potentially have problems.
I've never ever heard of screen damage caused by ROM flashing - that just sounds a bit ridiculous, so perhaps there's just a misunderstanding of what those people were reporting. The one "issue" that the G3 suffered/suffers from is the fact that the super huge QHD resolution and scaling causing sharpness issues in some situations: either the onscreen image is too sharp or oversharp and loses clarity or it's not sharp enough and looks fuzzy. It's not a technical problem or a defect with the display, it's simple physics of the LCD being so high resolution at 2560x1440 and software/hardware scaling not being up to par - there are several fixes out that help alleviate the oversharpening but I can't speak for their effectiveness at this time till I can get this G3 of mine up and running again with the replacement display assembly.
Not sure what you're referring to with the "RRO" comment, and I'm not into themes at all personally. I typically use a black wallpaper on any device I own and keep everything 'stock' in terms of the UI itself which is why I said what I said about LG's stock UI on the G3 (and why I used it on the G2 with CloudyG3/G2). It's beautiful, incredibly functional, and fits the way I use the device better than "stock" Android ever could but again that's just me and my personal preference. I give LG big props and mad respect for it because it's gorgeous and gets the job done while being lean and mean while remaining snappy and responsive as well.
Aside from the Sprint bloatware (which can be disabled iirc, or removed entirely with root using Titanium Backup). I was using the G3 after I got it and my OTG cable with a mouse, actually. The damage to the digitizer was localized in most of the left and upper region - the bottom right quadrant was still functional but with the mouse plugged in the digitizer became irrelevant. No, I don't mean I was going to carry it around with a mouse, that would be ridiculous and stupid, I just mean that I got the G3 for that $50 knowing I'd be replacing the display assembly from the gitgo.
My mistake was that I decided to roll the firmware back to factory (ZV4) and in the process I didn't realize that LG has made some changes since the G2 release and they have this stupid "Mini OS" thing come up after a stock firmware flash - the only way to exit out of that Mini OS and into the normal firmware is to hold the Power button and tap a menu item onscreen which causes a popup to appear with an OK button - because the digitizer is/was damaged I wasn't able to press the OK button (it was like 1/16" of an inch inside the damaged area) so I was left with a truly dead G3 for all intents and purposes.
I tore it down yesterday and removed the display assembly and cleaned it all up so it's basically a fully functional G3 now waiting for a new display/digitizer which I hope to order here as soon as I can round up the funds, it'll be about $70-80 off eBay.
It's a damned nice smartphone, it really is. My own pros/cons list basically is like 99% pros for the G3 and just 1% con: I wish it had a 1920x1080 display on it because I have no use - I mean really, does anyone? - for such a high resolution on such a tiny display. I appreciate it, I do, but there's no legitimate purpose for such a resolution on such a small display: 1920x1080 would have been awesome enough, I would have been happy with it and had no issues but LG wanted to be the first to market with the QHD resolution and they made it happen with the G3.
Couldn't pass it up for $50...
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Hey everyone. Some of you may have seen me before on various LG forums, like the Optimus G, and the G2 (I've definitely seen some of you guys before on the OG forums), and I have a question for you guys who own the Sprint G3. Are you guys happy with your device? Like ROM wise, battery life, the entire experience in general. As of today March 1st, I'm eligible for an upgrade, and I was thinking of getting the G3. But I've been ghosting around the forums to spot any rooting quirks and goofs, and I've seen some regarding data on custom ROMs and stuff, which I'm kinda on the fence about. I'm planning on keeping my N5 for the AOSP ROMs, but this phone has terrible battery life, compared to the G2 I've owned for two weeks before I permanently switched to the N5. I see there's a decent selection of AOSP ROMs available for the G3, but I'm not too worried about that because I have my Nexus.
Tl;Dr: are you guys happy with your G3, and do you think its worth the upgrade, or should I wait for new devices to come out?
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I loved my OG and decided to go with this phone based off of my experience with that. I can honestly say I made the right choice. My normal routine with phones is to flash AOSP roms as soon as they are available, but with this phone, I've been pretty impressed with the custom stock roms and xposed. My battery life is great when I'm not using bluetooth, but one great thing is the charge time on this phone has greatly improved over the OG.
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I loved my OG and decided to go with this phone based off of my experience with that. I can honestly say I made the right choice. My normal routine with phones is to flash AOSP roms as soon as they are available, but with this phone, I've been pretty impressed with the custom stock roms and xposed. My battery life is great when I'm not using bluetooth, but one great thing is the charge time on this phone has greatly improved over the OG.
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Yeah, I'm definitely interested to see how stock debloated Lollipop runs on this phone. Its just weird hearing that the battery life is just "okay" considering that the G2 had amazing battery life. But I guess the G3 would be an improvement over the N5 anyways, this thing has horrid battery life. Think I'm gonna go to Best Buy tomorrow and snag a G3 for a dollar, instead of getting one from Sprint for $50.
Hi,
I have a chance to buy the LG G2 today, brand new for a bit less than 300 eur. The LG is for sure a great smartphone, even nowadays, but it's a 1.5 years old model after all.
What do you think? Is it the best value for money that I can get today?
My other option is the morotola G2 LTE for about 211 eur.
Thanks!
If is international model(D802) and 32gb variant I would say...go ahead and buy it!
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It is still a great phone, better than a lot of competitors, and the price is good.
And lollipop is coming...
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My dilemma is that the motorola is relatively new model with promised update at least up to 5.1, and the G2 is a relatively old model (1.5 years!) and probably the lollipop is the last official update.
And yes, I'm talking about the international (D802) model with 32 GB.
one more thing, my current phone is a nexus 4 (updated to 5.1). It's a great phone but the screen is broke, plus the battery life is horrible (can't trust is to last a full day of medium usage).
SD 400 1gb vs SD800 2gb.I see a clear winner here.
Motorola systems aren't that special and changed as those from sense, touchwiz and from LG UX. If you want latest version then just wait a bit and you will have custom roms which will outperform your motorola choice. As the hardware is pretty much not worth it if you can buy even the G2.
I also came from a nexus4 and really, the battery life on the G2 is awesome with its 3000mah battery and great devs here who are making the performance, stability better and more battery friendly.
I highly suggest the G2 over the motorola as it also contains a powerfull software camera which also has great pictures in the night. You would be amazed if you would compare aosp camera versus LG camera.
Alright, thank you all. I can see where it goes
Plus.. Motorola: what extra features are you getting? None. G2: Quick Remote, wireless storage, Qslide, extra sharing possibilites, and probably some more
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It depends on what it available in your country. Get the best phone your budget for a new phone allows for. Check the XDA section for the phone to make sure it is still being developed for and has no major issues.
Like here in the US, I can pick up a G2 D802 (not the best example, as none of the carriers here sell them) for $200-300 at the moment, depending on what condition you want it in. I paid $400 for a new one a year ago. An international G3 goes for $300-500, again depending on the condition. Swappa has used Tmobile G2's for around $250, Tmobile G3's for $350-380.
The G2 is still a viable phone though. Don't let it's age foul you, it was ahead of the competition when it came out. The Galaxy S4 and HTC One M7 only had Snapdragon 600's The Moto X had a SoC similar to the one on the Nexus 4! The Snapdragon 801 used on last gen phones wasn't a huge jump from the 800 in the G2. Rather it smoothed some things out and was more power efficient. The G2 can offset this with it's larger than normal 3000mAh stacked battery.
Thanks guys, I ordered the g2 for a bit less than 300 euros via amazon (and with a little bit of luck, the local costumes won't charge me abd I'll get a 46 eur refund ).
I just hope that i wont have any problems with the official lollipop as some people had (mostly battary life).
Thanks you all!
yoavp10 said:
Thanks guys, I ordered the g2 for a bit less than 300 euros via amazon (and with a little bit of luck, the local costumes won't charge me abd I'll get a 46 eur refund ).
I just hope that i wont have any problems with the official lollipop as some people had (mostly battary life).
Thanks you all!
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Well done on your purchase. Dont worry about Lollipop. If its not for you, 4.4.2 20H is really good. At least with this phone you have the choice to go back. :victory:
Coming from the Nexus 4 you are going to think you are seeing things when looking at your battery stats.
Coming from nexus 4, I don't know what battery means
G2 is still the best bang for buck phone you can buy...even with its issues.
There's nothing that compares to it in its class.
It like buying a 650whp Supra in mint condition for 2 grand.
I'm really hopeful that LG combined all the advantages of G2 and G3 without the negative points in new G4.
But right now there is truly no better phone than G2 for the prize. I still would prefer it because most of the new phones are too big but have no bigger screens. You've made a good choice.
I bought a brand new G2 for less than 300€, d802 32g, received it 3 days ago, and I can say it's a really grezt phone, I prefere it to my other galaxy s5, the display is great.
I updated it to lollipop 30a and it's awsome. But I can't say if the battery is good compared to kk cause I did not used it.
G2 is still a good phone and only $200 in the US. It has a great screen at 1080p. Battery is great at 3000mAh, more than the new Galaxy S6 and most other phones, except phablets. The CPU, 2gb ram can run most modern software for the next year or two.
I don't find the G3 or G4 to be much of an upgrade. The bigger screen makes it half way to a phablet and the higher resolution only drains the battery faster and lags the CPU. 1080p is more than good enough. My 23" monitor is 1080p!
yoavp10 said:
Hi,
I have a chance to buy the LG G2 today, brand new for a bit less than 300 eur. The LG is for sure a great smartphone, even nowadays, but it's a 1.5 years old model after all.
What do you think? Is it the best value for money that I can get today?
My other option is the morotola G2 LTE for about 211 eur.
Thanks!
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The G2 is still a truly great smartphone. Since the Lollipop update the speed has greatly improved (at least for me), camera quality is also noticeably better, navigation buttons can hide increasing the usable screen area. Form factor is the largest one could reasonably fit in the pocket. I could afford more expensive smartphones but I can't find a match for it right now. Hopefully LG will release a smaller screen G4 sometime in the future. But still I can't see any reason to upgrade.
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G2 is still a good phone and only $200 in the US. It has a great screen at 1080p. Battery is great at 3000mAh, more than the new Galaxy S6 and most other phones, except phablets. The CPU, 2gb ram can run most modern software for the next year or two.
I don't find the G3 or G4 to be much of an upgrade. The bigger screen makes it half way to a phablet and the higher resolution only drains the battery faster and lags the CPU. 1080p is more than good enough. My 23" monitor is 1080p!
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The battery in a new G2 will not necessarily have its full capacity if 3K mAh anymore. Chances are that the internal battery has lost power even if they have been cooped up in some warehouse.
A G4 will likely have a 3K battery but with 1440P & S808 instead of 810. It should also have G-RAM like the G2, improving the battery life during idle activities such as reading a website.
Snapdragon 810 & the Exynos in the S6 both have 64bit+A57/53 with powerful GPUs too. They can handle 2K resolutions just fine, even in games. The real issue is bloat because they tend to add so many things that bog down the experience. After removing bloat from my G2 it even ran better.
And Android has had hardware acceleration since ICS, so the UI is partially rendered by the GPU...The G3 had the G2's GPU which caused it to perform worse in similar use cases.
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The G2 is still a truly great smartphone. Since the Lollipop update the speed has greatly improved (at least for me), camera quality is also noticeably better, navigation buttons can hide increasing the usable screen area. Form factor is the largest one could reasonably fit in the pocket. I could afford more expensive smartphones but I can't find a match for it right now. Hopefully LG will release a smaller screen G4 sometime in the future. But still I can't see any reason to upgrade.
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I think the speed is somewhat worse. Try restoring the JB tot & you'll see how the G2 really flew back during launch. Right now I'm back on JB until the G4 releases.
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is that when it comes to android, always buy the goddamn flagship.
"OH YES 720p with that processor means this phone will be so smooth and battery life should be great" but here I am a couple months later with a phone that takes 10 seconds to open the recent apps menu. Samsung just does not have the time to regulate and quality control these lower range phones when they've got like 4 flagships to prioritise.
btw, I have 10gb of memory free, play no demanding games and have no more than 20 apps installed. Still a joke.
Note to self, when it comes to android phones, do not try and save money.
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is that when it comes to android, always buy the goddamn flagship.
"OH YES 720p with that processor means this phone will be so smooth and battery life should be great" but here I am a couple months later with a phone that takes 10 seconds to open the recent apps menu. Samsung just does not have the time to regulate and quality control these lower range phones when they've got like 4 flagships to prioritise.
btw, I have 10gb of memory free, play no demanding games and have no more than 20 apps installed. Still a joke.
Note to self, when it comes to android phones, do not try and save money.
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Which version do your have? I have the 850M rooted and it wheels great running KK. 850A running KK is also decent.
Well techinically this phone was a real flagship at its time, lauched a little after the galaxy s5 it was the first to use the 20nm exynos chipset, it have the ISOCELL camera, 4k recording, 32gb memory, the heart rate monitor. on efficiency is only superseded by the galaxy note 4 launched several months later using the armv8 architecture, that was a real jump
the real problem of our phone it is because it was REALLY expensive at time(why so expensive i dont know), and the price only dropped years after, so even being a flagship phone, it have low priority of updates now because not so much people have this phone, why kit kat is so stable? because it was new, and samsung was caring for the phone, make it real good.
i bought one for cheap this year, i have no complaints, phone have the absolutely perfect size, i am an avid android tweaker, even tough phone runs nice even on stock configurations, the only downsides are the recent apps bugged button, sometimes it does not work, some times it works, and always respondin slowly, i got used to not using it <_>
i am really sure we will receive the marshmallow update, including the new interface.
but is really sad, that people with the first gen moto g received marshmallow about a year ago, this just show how samsung only wants to sell phones, make it "old" after some time and make you buy a new one.
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Well techinically this phone was a real flagship at its time, lauched a little after the galaxy s5 it was the first to use the 20nm exynos chipset, it have the ISOCELL camera, 4k recording, 32gb memory, the heart rate monitor. on efficiency is only superseded by the galaxy note 4 launched several months later using the armv8 architecture, that was a real jump
the real problem of our phone it is because it was REALLY expensive at time(why so expensive i dont know), and the price only dropped years after, so even being a flagship phone, it have low priority of updates now because not so much people have this phone, why kit kat is so stable? because it was new, and samsung was caring for the phone, make it real good.
i bought one for cheap this year, i have no complaints, phone have the absolutely perfect size, i am an avid android tweaker, even tough phone runs nice even on stock configurations, the only downsides are the recent apps bugged button, sometimes it does not work, some times it works, and always respondin slowly, i got used to not using it <_>
i am really sure we will receive the marshmallow update, including the new interface.
but is really sad, that people with the first gen moto g received marshmallow about a year ago, this just show how samsung only wants to sell phones, make it "old" after some time and make you buy a new one.
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What mods have you done with this phone?
The best part about this phone is the small size, light weight, and changeable battery. I can tolerate not getting MM for having these features.
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What mods have you done with this phone?
The best part about this phone is the small size, light weight, and changeable battery. I can tolerate not getting MM for having these features.
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victoram said:
Well techinically this phone was a real flagship at its time, lauched a little after the galaxy s5 it was the first to use the 20nm exynos chipset, it have the ISOCELL camera, 4k recording, 32gb memory, the heart rate monitor. on efficiency is only superseded by the galaxy note 4 launched several months later using the armv8 architecture, that was a real jump
the real problem of our phone it is because it was REALLY expensive at time(why so expensive i dont know), and the price only dropped years after, so even being a flagship phone, it have low priority of updates now because not so much people have this phone, why kit kat is so stable? because it was new, and samsung was caring for the phone, make it real good.
i bought one for cheap this year, i have no complaints, phone have the absolutely perfect size, i am an avid android tweaker, even tough phone runs nice even on stock configurations, the only downsides are the recent apps bugged button, sometimes it does not work, some times it works, and always respondin slowly, i got used to not using it <_>
i am really sure we will receive the marshmallow update, including the new interface.
but is really sad, that people with the first gen moto g received marshmallow about a year ago, this just show how samsung only wants to sell phones, make it "old" after some time and make you buy a new one.
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same feeling here, brother
No complains here (except for the too much expected MM update, which was one reason to choice this model).
More than 20 apps installed (G850F).
Battery drains very fast in mobile data mode (and also heats).
It cost 330€, which I found quite good in price/quality ratio.
Because of the fast evolution of technology, I never advise to buy immediately the high-end models. The prices on these will fall very fast within few months. The wait is quite compensatory...
(to give a lot of money for a smartphone its almost a steal...)
It's about time I upgraded my G3 and naturally I'm looking at the newer G5 but I've read a lot of mixed reviews. If you had the chance again, would you buy it again? I'm going the unlocked way because I'm not wanting to add another $30 to my cell bill so that disregards many other newer phones. The 3T is the only other option I'm really debating (yes I'm trying to be cost efficient)... Any thoughts?
Don't do it. The G5 is a nice enough phone, but LG's support for is it pathetic. I have the factory unlocked RS988, and there's no Nougat update anywhere in sight. All the major carriers have been updated, but the factory unlocked version of this flagship phone (which should have been first) gets nothing but mixed messages from LG's customer service team. Throw in the way that the "friends" modules were botched to the point where you have to wonder why no one has filed a class-action law suit, and you have the perfect storm of customer discontentment. In case you didn't already know: the Camera Plus module has major compatibility and charging issues, the highly regarded Bang & Olufsen Hi-fi module is not available is most markets including the US, the Rolling Ball never made it past the demo mode and the 360 VR headset is practically useless due to the lack of supporting apps (no Google Cardboard support, in spite of ads saying otherwise). The only decent module was the 360 Cam, which works with any Android phone.
Well in the opposite end of this guy. If you your looking for phone with root and such. Make sure version 850 and 830 is in your country. If that doesn't matter to you then fine. This phone is definitely worth getting. For $300 and specs, you won't find a better deal.
Seems like newer manufacturered versions have less issues. Before you buy make sure its newer. It will be on the box.
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It's about time I upgraded my G3 and naturally I'm looking at the newer G5 but I've read a lot of mixed reviews. If you had the chance again, would you buy it again? I'm going the unlocked way because I'm not wanting to add another $30 to my cell bill so that disregards many other newer phones. The 3T is the only other option I'm really debating (yes I'm trying to be cost efficient)... Any thoughts?
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well...in my opinion it is totally worthy of its money...i was previous user of oneplus device (OPX) and i didnt had great time with the support the phone had +way oneplus mainly treated their <<low>> end device...the G5 on the other hand i got it some months now and i regret absolutely nothing about it,got the official update and its still running smooth and perfect...i cant compare it with other devices in its category as its my first flagship phone....all i can say is that iam 100 happy about the specs and especially its price