Now that we know that the Xperia Z2 isnt recieving Nougat, I wanted it to know everyones decision on whether to stay with their Z2 on marshmallow or to upgrade. Im personally thinking of upgrading to Z5P at some point as i cannot unlock my bootloader eventhough the sim has been unlocked.
So im wondering if everyone else was thinking of doing the same thing or just to stick with marshmallow. Is the Z2 still worth keeping or is it time for an upgrade?
Nougat Xperia List: http://www.xda-developers.com/android-nougat-coming-to-a-ton-of-sony-devices/
I'm seriously thinking about a Note 7. Damn phone has a range of very cool accessories. Sony is stuck.
The most likely reason the Z2 and Z3 series won't get an official update to 7.0 is that to receive a Google certification so OEMs can bundle Google apps with their updates, the phone needs to support Vulkan OR OpenGL 3.1.
Sitic on Reddit explains it well.
So we can build from AOSP, but Sony can't officially update the Z2 and Z3. That's why the Nexus 5 didn't get an official update from Google. That does mean we will likely never get a stable AOSP build with cameras and RIL working properly, like the case with 6.0 AOSP.
I will leave Android, and I will wait for iPhone 7
I love SONY and I dont see a point to move to another device, as there are plenty of custom roms for our device and xposed modules concerning Android N like N-ify is there to port Android N features to older devices. I think I wont move on to another Xperia device until my Z2 has hardware failure.
They should let us unlock our bootloaders now. I can't (****ty carrier locked phone) so I'm stuck with sony roms
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They should let us unlock our bootloaders now. I can't (****ty carrier locked phone) so I'm stuck with sony roms
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Why dont you just flash the international version .ftf for Z2 so as to escape from your carrier barrier ?
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iSaidyiu said:
Why dont you just flash the international version .ftf for Z2 so as to escape from your carrier barrier ?
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Oh i've already done that. But I can't flash cyanogenmod, nor N preview.
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Oh i've already done that. But I can't flash cyanogenmod, nor N preview.
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No! Not custom roms! FTF imply OFFICIAL FIRMWARE FOR SONY DEVICES, ehich can be downloaded via flashtool by androxyde.
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No! Not custom roms! FTF imply OFFICIAL FIRMWARE FOR SONY DEVICES, ehich can be downloaded via flashtool by androxyde.
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Like I said i've already done that. I've no branding, flashed a stock french ftf a while back. But that's not my issue. My bootloader is still locked, the carrier it was sold on stop people from unlocking bootloaders, they set the flag" bootloader unlock allowed" as "no". So I can't flash roms.
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Like I said i've already done that. I've no branding, flashed a stock french ftf a while back. But that's not my issue. My bootloader is still locked, the carrier it was sold on stop people from unlocking bootloaders, they set the flag" bootloader unlock allowed" as "no". So I can't flash roms.
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I'm in the same boat, my z2 has the bootloader permanently locked by my operator. No more updates from sony and no custom rom support so i'll probably change to another device before the end of the year.
Unfortunately i don't like any of the latest sony devices so i'll probably get the next nexus or a zte axon 7.
I've learned my lesson, i'll never buy a device from a carrier or with an unlockable bootloader again.
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I'm in the same boat, my z2 has the bootloader permanently locked by my operator. No more updates from sony and no custom rom support so i'll probably change to another device before the end of the year.
Unfortunately i don't like any of the latest sony devices so i'll probably get the next nexus or a zte axon 7.
I've learned my lesson, i'll never buy a device from a carrier or with an unlockable bootloader again.
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I know how it feels it was the same for my Xperia play which had that damn bootloader unlock no its stupid in my opinion it shouldnt exist its rather damn anoying leaving me to upgrade to Xperia z as my play wasnt recieving ics at the time. I think ill keep my z2 and wait till theres a new Xperia. My z also had the same issue but when I "accidentally" got it damaged by water it was replace as Sony made it worse when running water tests on it as i presume further and luckily allowing me to unlock the bootloader. Im also wondering if Sony can do some magic with the bootload unlock no. I read that they can but its an unauthorised unlock so they wont do it.
i buy Z2 in 2014.
Start with 4.4.2 os, build 314,
Update to 4.4.4 os.
Update to 5.0 os.
Update to 5.1 os.
Update to 6.0 beta build 570 - 575.
Update to 6.0 os final build 291.
We had 5 os updated.
Every update, we don't have many error.
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i buy Z2 in 2014.
Start with 4.4.2 os, build 314,
Update to 4.4.4 os.
Update to 5.0 os.
Update to 5.1 os.
Update to 6.0 beta build 570 - 575.
Update to 6.0 os final build 291.
We had 5 os updated.
Every update, we don't have many error.
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Although Z2 has been going through lots of major updates, but it is still not the King of Updates from Sony.
The King is the original Z series, which is from init. Android 4.1 to 4.2, 4.3, 4.4.2, 4.4.4, 5.0 and final 5.1.1. I have always been proud of having one of the original Z series device in my life:victory:
Well its true, Z2 went through a lot of software updates and its has exceeded the usual 2 year update period.
In my opinion this device was legendary when it came out, the feature set and specs are still top notch.
Ive been using it for almost 2 years and i think im going to switch to a LG G5 by the end of september,
because it offers a lot of upgrades over this phone and has the most reasonable price tag between the flagships.
iSaidyiu said:
Although Z2 has been going through lots of major updates, but it is still not the King of Updates from Sony.
The King is the original Z series, which is from init. Android 4.1 to 4.2, 4.3, 4.4.2, 4.4.4, 5.0 and final 5.1.1. I have always been proud of having one of the original Z series device in my life:victory:
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Because Qualcomm.
Qualcomm stop update graphic drivers for snapdragon 800/ 801
Sony Xperia Z1, Sony Xperia Z2 ,Sony Xperia Z3, HTC One M8, Nexus 5, Galaxy S5, LG G4 : snapdragon 800 and snapdragon 801
nhuduy said:
Because Qualcomm.
Qualcomm stop update graphic drivers for snapdragon 800/ 801
Sony Xperia Z1, Sony Xperia Z2 ,Sony Xperia Z3, HTC One M8, Nexus 5, Galaxy S5, LG G4 : snapdragon 800 and snapdragon 801
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Well speaking of officialness, we can still build AOSP-based rom or porting the later devices' Sony official ROM to our device.
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iSaidyiu said:
Well speaking of officialness, we can still build AOSP-based rom or porting the later devices' Sony official ROM to our device.
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Yes!
I hope AOSP to will update os with our.
I only update os with Xperifirm for Z2, never update with AOSP.
When we unlock bootloader,
can you send to me some link to help me how can i flash AOSP rom?
nhuduy said:
Yes!
I hope AOSP to will update os with our.
I only update os with Xperifirm for Z2, never update with AOSP.
When we unlock bootloader,
can you send to me some link to help me how can i flash AOSP rom?
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You need a custom kernel with recovery ( in .img ), and the AOSP rom ( in .zip or .img ).
If rom is in .zip format…
1. Load the zip onto your phone storage ( internal or external ).
2. Flash the custom kernel ( aka. boot image )( usually achieved by extracting from rom.zip ) in flashtool via fastboot mode.
3. Boot into recovery and flah zip.
4. Done.
If rom is in .img fornat…
1. Flash boot.img and system.img ACCORDINGLY in fastboot mode.
2. Done.
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nhuduy said:
i buy Z2 in 2014.
Start with 4.4.2 os, build 314,
Update to 4.4.4 os.
Update to 5.0 os.
Update to 5.1 os.
Update to 6.0 beta build 570 - 575.
Update to 6.0 os final build 291.
We had 5 os updated.
Every update, we don't have many error.
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iXaidyiu said:
Although Z2 has been going through lots of major updates, but it is still not the King of Updates from Sony.
The King is the original Z series, which is from init. Android 4.1 to 4.2, 4.3, 4.4.2, 4.4.4, 5.0 and final 5.1.1. I have always been proud of having one of the original Z series device in my life:victory:
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Compared with Samsungs support and update strategy Sony is the worlds no.1, i own a XPlay ( active ), Arc S, Z ( active ), Z1, Z2 ( active ), Z3, and my next phone will be the X. For daily use the Z ( C6603 ) has more than enough power, after 4 years. All my Sonys running Lollipop ( Stock/CM ), and i suggest to stay with your Z2 with a modified/cleaned stock Lollipop fw.
Offtopic: Samsungs S3 came together with the Z, Samsung stopped support with JB 4.3, terrible.
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Marshmallow 6.0.1 has rolled out for M4 Aqua and M4 Aqua Dual today.
Any body received the update yet? Give us feedback.
Sony Mobile has begun to roll the Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow firmware update for the Xperia M4 Aqua and M4 Aqua Dual. New build number 26.3.A.0.131 has currently been released across select regions for most of the Xperia M4 Aqua variants. We are hoping that Sony has included adoptable storage as part of the build, so once you have downloaded, please confirm either way in the comments below. We will include FTF firmware links below soon, in the meantime please also let us know your overall impressions.
Via: http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/07/19/xperia-m4-aqua-android-marshmallow-26-3-a-0-131/
People report that there is no adoptable storage I will edit this when my update finishes downloading and installing currently at 50%
tomcis147 said:
People report that there is no adoptable storage I will edit this when my update finishes downloading and installing currently at 50%
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I haven't received the update yet
pRakitik said:
I haven't received the update yet
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I didn't get OTA notification or anything on phone but I have to check diagnostics if there is new software then just connect to pc it will allow to update
there is no adoptable storage....
tomcis147 said:
I didn't get OTA notification or anything on phone but I have to check diagnostics if there is new software then just connect to pc it will allow to update
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Thanks, I will try through PC when I get back home
See if I was to install Nordic Combined right now, will I able to install the UK Combined when it comes out?
jonnyd100 said:
See if I was to install Nordic Combined right now, will I able to install the UK Combined when it comes out?
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via same proccess yes
I have a question. If I flash my Xperia M4 Aqua with a firmware that has different Region and different CDA, will it work?
Now I have Lollipop with CDA 1295-6080(Austria/T-Mobile AT) and I want to get Marshmallow and I thought about upgrading to Baltic Generic. Will my SIM card and LTE work with this firmware?
I'm new to flashing sony devices, so please, can someone take some time to help me?
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See if I was to install Nordic Combined right now, will I able to install the UK Combined when it comes out?
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Yes this is what I did on my M2
Where is the adoptable storage that Sony promised?
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what about performance? its better than lollipop?
I think we can enable the adoptable storage like this.
Anyone tried it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/tuto-enable-adoptable-storage-mm-t3334153
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I am going to try it.
can someone please upload an ftf file for MM? please?
Not going to update until there's a root method. Hopefully someone comes up with one soon
Can anyone tell me MM released for all variants? My E2363 have not received the update yet. Can't try to connect through my PC till I get back home...
vic604 said:
Where is the adoptable storage that Sony promised?
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Sony never promised anything regarding adoptable storage that I do know. I think you'll find the person/people on Sonys social media accounts read scripted cards and probably googled the features of mm they certainly don't know what the software department are or aren't including or when updates are released till they get the email telling them.
i recevied update m4 aqua dual but some bugs are there sound is very low and heating issue
I haven't received it yet (Spain), and I think I will never have Marshmallow unless I flash the firmware from another country. This will be my last Sony phone for sure.
Me neither, still on Lollipop (Bosnia and Herzegovina).
No Android N would be releasing for this m4 aqua...
Source: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sony-android-7-0-nougat-roadmap-xperia-phones-revealed-slide-show-1583153
This is not an official statement from Sony but i kinda figured M4 aqua would not get Nougat. Worst phone ever. I am now running Nougat on my Moto G from 2013. But not this more expensive and newer Sony...on the other hand the Sony now has MM and it does not run very badly.
Stop making sh*tposts please, Sony doesn't said an official statement.
RodrigoKunJPN said:
Stop making sh*tposts please, Sony doesn't said an official statement.
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Its not a **** post.. N if u dont want to read it then don't... Stop messing up here...
Akshat9292 said:
Its not a **** post.. N if u dont want to read it then don't... Stop messing up here...
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It's not a sh*tpost? Man, is not the official Sony page or a page like Android Authority, Android Police or a recognized Android news page, is another irrelevant news page of the Internet. Anyone can make an image where there is supposed dates of updates, like the last image of the supposed date of the release of Marshmallow and we have the update 2 or 3 months after of the "official release date"
we don't need official Nougat update
I hope we can get a method to root our Xperia M4 aqua without unlocking boot loader, most of our problems will disappear if that were to happen btw Sony is definitely going to issue the last update (performance only) to iron out most issues that have arisen due to the latest Marshmallow update... so cheer up
So now, XDA become a gossip forum... ?
You guys, like old lady envy greedy
Well there's a difference between gossip n Discussion..
Hi there,
Probably a silly question, I have a SGP312 and it is on Lollipop since 3 years, do you think is there a way to upgrade to the latest Android 8.1?
If not 8.1, what would be the highest version I can go and how?
The Tablet is essentially a stock one, I never did anything on it, just applied the Sony updates they made available for this old model.
Thank you,
Alex
kwajongen said:
Hi there,
Probably a silly question, I have a SGP312 and it is on Lollipop since 3 years, do you think is there a way to upgrade to the latest Android 8.1?
If not 8.1, what would be the highest version I can go and how?
The Tablet is essentially a stock one, I never did anything on it, just applied the Sony updates they made available for this old model.
Thank you,
Alex
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Hello!
It's quite possible to install even the latest 8.1, though it is still not that stable now.
If you want 99% bug-free experience, i would stick to android 7.1.2, like Resurrection Remix ROM till 8.1 gets to a polished state.
Check this guide for installing custom ROMs on device.
Thank you for the link!
I will give it a try very soon.
Alex
Hi buddies,
I have a Sony Xperia Tablet Z (Model: SGP321) with Lollipop v5.0.2.
I had rooted it since a couple of years, so no need to say, it couldn't be upgraded to any higher version of android.
Now I unrooted it and wanna upgrade its android.
My questions:
1. What's the highest Android version officially released for this model?
2. What's the best version you advise me to install on it?
Thanks for your kind & prompt reply.
Cheers,
Leon
PersianOne said:
Hi buddies,
I have a Sony Xperia Tablet Z (Model: SGP321) with Lollipop v5.0.2.
I had rooted it since a couple of years, so no need to say, it couldn't be upgraded to any higher version of android.
Now I unrooted it and wanna upgrade its android.
My questions:
1. What's the highest Android version officially released for this model?
2. What's the best version you advise me to install on it?
Thanks for your kind & prompt reply.
Cheers,
Leon
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Hello!
1. The latest official firmware is android 5.1.1 (v.10.7.A.0.222 or 10.7.A.0.228 depending on region, though internally they are identical).
You can update via xperia-companion software.
2. What's the best only you can say. If stock sony one works good for you, stick to it.
If you have knowledge how to install, and want to try something "custom", there are firmwares based on android 7.1.2 and 8.1 on this forum.
The media players on my Xperia sgp312 keep pausing, has it got something to do with the software, I am still on Android 5.1.1
Hopefully the phones we have will survive long enough to have another update next year. https://blog.motorola.com/2018/08/15/baked-android-pie-coming-motorola/
Yey. Let's wait till end q1 of 2019 when Google starts to test Android Q for Motorola to get P ready for it's last year's phone's. Or do I have to remind you that Oreo was released end April/early May to the original Z play?
Artim_96 said:
Yey. Let's wait till end q1 of 2019 when Google starts to test Android Q for Motorola to get P ready for it's last year's phone's. Or do I have to remind you that Oreo was released end April/early May to the original Z play?
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And it hasn't even been released in some regions ??*
OTBOPKOTO said:
Hopefully the phones we have will survive long enough to have another update next year. https://blog.motorola.com/2018/08/15/baked-android-pie-coming-motorola/
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You might have misunderstood something.
The article says "Android Pie will be served up on the below Motorola smartphones starting this fall:"
wsemi said:
You might have misunderstood something.
The article says "Android Pie will be served up on the below Motorola smartphones starting this fall:"
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Yes, starting with the 2018 models, or maybe only with the Z3 since it's the most expensive ones. Or do you really believe that our one year old phone will get updates that quick? They are not Pixels and knowing the update strategy of Lenovo for the past couple of years and without treble we can be lucky if we even get it this year. or have you forgotten the Oreo update? And it wasn't even to 8.1, just 8.0
I am still on 7.1.1 Nougut. According to support, I am on the latest update. But on 08/31 they claimed they are behind, but it is coming soon.
Shouldn't the all be the same regardless of software channel, build number, SKU, Version, etc.? They are all Moto Z2 Play. Mine is even unlocked so I would think that would be a benefit.
Here are the specs from the "about phone":
- Moto Z2 Play - UNLOCKED version (carrier independent)
- Software Channel = "retla"
- Build Number = NPSS26.118-19-1-16
- SKU = XT1710-06
- Version = PVT1
- Baseband version = M8953P_23.33.07.34.01RALBUS_LATAMDSDS_CUST
- Security patch = February 1, 2018
- Android 7.1.1. (Nougut)
Murf. said:
I am still on 7.1.1 Nougut. According to support, I am on the latest update. But on 08/31 they claimed they are behind, but it is coming soon.
Shouldn't the all be the same regardless of software channel, build number, SKU, Version, etc.? They are all Moto Z2 Play. Mine is even unlocked so I would think that would be a benefit.
Here are the specs from the "about phone":
- Moto Z2 Play - UNLOCKED version (carrier independent)
- Software Channel = "retla"
- Build Number = NPSS26.118-19-1-16
- SKU = XT1710-06
- Version = PVT1
- Baseband version = M8953P_23.33.07.34.01RALBUS_LATAMDSDS_CUST
- Security patch = February 1, 2018
- Android 7.1.1. (Nougut)
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I had the update like in mid July, but it didn't take. It got all messed up and went back to 7.1.1
So I installed Oreo on the side and put Custom Rom on top of it.
Android 9 confirmed... but im still on 7.1.1... i cant understand why my phone never got Oreo
Emacordoba said:
Android 9 confirmed... but im still on 7.1.1... i cant understand why my phone never got Oreo
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Same here. I have no idea why my phone won't update. I have it unlocked and rooted with Magisk, but won't it still detect the update and try to download it? I just need to unroot first and flash it and it should be just fine I thought. But nope, still on 7.1.1 with the February 2018 security patch. I'm on software channel retus. Right now I'm not really too concerned with getting a new version of Android on this phone since everything is stable but I'd like to know why my phone never got the 8.0/8.1 update.
Johmama said:
Same here. I have no idea why my phone won't update. I have it unlocked and rooted with Magisk, but won't it still detect the update and try to download it? I just need to unroot first and flash it and it should be just fine I thought. But nope, still on 7.1.1 with the February 2018 security patch. I'm on software channel retus. Right now I'm not really too concerned with getting a new version of Android on this phone since everything is stable but I'd like to know why my phone never got the 8.0/8.1 update.
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i have mine without root and locked like the first day... no mods, only basic soft and games.... still on february patch
Emacordoba said:
i have mine without root and locked like the first day... no mods, only basic soft and games.... still on february patch
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It depends on carrier. Although, if you ask them, carrier will say it depends on Moto; but truth is, it isn't. As far as I know, AT&T Latin America released (or it was Moto?) 8.0 Oreo in August, which has been already updated up to September, 2018. Next should be 9, but... Yes, 8.0 was released same time as 9 for Pixels, a full year after Z2 device landed. So, statistically, 9's OTA should be inside AT&T's Z2 devices, late in 2019. That would be another year, probably along with 10's appearance! but... Maybe not. Who knows what's in their heads. Point seems to be keeping OTA fans (don't count me in) eager as hell.
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I've just received October's security patch
Build No. : OPSS27.76-12-25-11View attachment 4630311
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Is pie update coming or not? Or are there a custom pie ROM available? Would you recommend flashing ROM? I mean will it reduce battery or performance? Thanks in advance.
The Android Pie 9.0 update we get for Moto Z2 Play will be still on 32bit architecture?
g0u1ham said:
The Android Pie 9.0 update we get for Moto Z2 Play will be still on 32bit architecture?
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Yes, 100%.
Cupcake 1.5 said:
Yes, 100%.
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So did they mean this Fall as in NOW? Coz I'm still on 8.0.0 as "latest" and seriously peeved considering these Z²s are pretty much vanilla Android to begin with
Mi A1 received Android 9 pie update and now it supports dual 4G + volte. Really shocked to see Snapdragon 625 supporting dual 4G and that too enabled with an update. And Moto doesn't even update their os to 64 bit.
signation said:
Mi A1 received Android 9 pie update and now it supports dual 4G + volte. Really shocked to see Snapdragon 625 supporting dual 4G and that too enabled with an update. And Moto doesn't even update their os to 64 bit.
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For this device to be updated to 64bit, it would require formatting, users would lose all their stored data. How well do you think that would go over with the general public?
kewlzter said:
For this device to be updated to 64bit, it would require formatting, users would lose all their stored data. How well do you think that would go over with the general public?
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That is a fair point. Although it's fairly easy to backup data on a phone with SD card, not everyone will like it. I had Asus zenfone 3 which came with 64bit OS despite 3GB of RAM and camera 2 API was enabled so the Gcam and hdr+ worked without root. Thought Z2 play with 4GB RAM, better camera sensor and stock Android will be even better. I was wrong.
Good afternoon,
I purchased... And it's the 3th time eheh this jewel waiting the One.
I have the C6833 with Android 5.1.1 onboard and all the SONY lovable miniApps
I see we have now also Oreo for it but... Before I unlock the bootloader and I start the roadToModding can I have your feedback?
What did you suggest?
Cheers
Another question... I installed Vanced but there is no overlay, did I have to enable anything about?
sev7en said:
Good afternoon,
I purchased... And it's the 3th time eheh this jewel waiting the One.
I have the C6833 with Android 5.1.1 onboard and all the SONY lovable miniApps
I see we have now also Oreo for it but... Before I unlock the bootloader and I start the roadToModding can I have your feedback?
What did you suggest?
Cheers
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update your firmware for the latest version, download Recovery twrp (do not install version 3.1.1 or you cant use your touchscreen again) and try the luck has a kernel developer on the custom rom of the android Oreo and Pie and he may be able to help in the progress since the developer of these roms is no longer among us, Togari (xperia z ultra) has the same SOC of Honami (Xperia Z1)