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Hey everyone,
I just got a Verizon Galaxy S4 and have been playing around with rooting and ROMS. I just did a clean restore to factory settings, but it shows I only have 3GB of space available. Misc files is using 6.57gb, downloads 116kb, audio 152kb, pictures 5mb, and application 349mb. It seems like I am missing 8gb. Any ideas of what I should do?
Thanks,
andrx471
FIXED
Hey everyone,
I fixed the problem. I flashed to a stock Verizon S4 image, then did a factory reset. I had done one or the other, but not both. I guess this raises the question, why am I losing 6GB of space when I root my phone?
Thanks again,
andrx471
andrx471 said:
Hey everyone,
I just got a Verizon Galaxy S4 and have been playing around with rooting and ROMS. I just did a clean restore to factory settings, but it shows I only have 3GB of space available. Misc files is using 6.57gb, downloads 116kb, audio 152kb, pictures 5mb, and application 349mb. It seems like I am missing 8gb. Any ideas of what I should do?
Thanks,
andrx471
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, when you make a backup with CWM it will be several gigs and will be in a hidden directory. I had the same issue with only one backup of the stock rom. I had to place my backups on the external card and now I have a few more gigs on the internal card. Remember that CWM will not work on an external card over 32 gig. I had to sell my 64 and buy a 32 for that reason.
skiddingus said:
Do you have a custom recovery? If so, when you make a backup with CWM it will be several gigs and will be in a hidden directory. I had the same issue with only one backup of the stock rom. I had to place my backups on the external card and now I have a few more gigs on the internal card. Remember that CWM will not work on an external card over 32 gig. I had to sell my 64 and buy a 32 for that reason.
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Thanks for getting back to me skiddingus. I have a 32GB SD card coming in the mail today, so hopefully there wont be anymore issues with storage. I do have a couple questions before I do this, though.
1. I see some people using CWM and others using TWRP. Are there any advantages to one or the other. or is it just a matter of preference?
2. When I make a backup or install a new ROM using either CWM or TWRP, are there specific options I should be selecting to backup or install a new ROM to my SD card?
Thanks a lot for your help!
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, when you make a backup with CWM it will be several gigs and will be in a hidden directory. I had the same issue with only one backup of the stock rom. I had to place my backups on the external card and now I have a few more gigs on the internal card. Remember that CWM will not work on an external card over 32 gig. I had to sell my 64 and buy a 32 for that reason.
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Hi skiddingus,
Any chance you could share your method for navigating to/accessing that hidden directory? I made backups and now my phone memory is almost all chewed up. I also did a backup (or two if the chunk of memory that's been eaten up is any indication) on the SD Card and would like to clear up that space as well.
I've been using TWRP for a while now, but unless it's been changed, all CWM backups were stored under a directory called Clockworkmod."
Redflea said:
I've been using TWRP for a while now, but unless it's been changed, all CWM backups were stored under a directory called Clockworkmod."
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Cool, thanks for the confirmation. I was able to find that one, seemed the logical place for CWM backups to live, and I erased the contents after making sure I had a reserve copy on my laptop and a stock backup as well. However, I'm still seeing an abundance of used space and no explanation for where it's gone just by looking at the directory names. I do recognize that "miscellaneous files" is also where "System Memory" lies, taking up just under 6.4 Gb.
Any other thoughts?
See attached pic for reference.
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Hi skiddingus,
Any chance you could share your method for navigating to/accessing that hidden directory? I made backups and now my phone memory is almost all chewed up. I also did a backup (or two if the chunk of memory that's been eaten up is any indication) on the SD Card and would like to clear up that space as well.
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I never did find the directory that CWM stores the backups. On Android 4.2 and up I believe it stores them in a secure hidden directory. I used the applications to delete the backups. I installed ROMmanager and used its "manage backups" option to clear my CWM backups. I used TWRP to clear its backups as well. I currently use CWM for my backups and I backup to and external sd card (32gb or less of course). My internal card has neary 7gb free and shows a total space of 9.62Gb. I have almost 2gb of apps.
andrx471 said:
Thanks for getting back to me skiddingus. I have a 32GB SD card coming in the mail today, so hopefully there wont be anymore issues with storage. I do have a couple questions before I do this, though.
1. I see some people using CWM and others using TWRP. Are there any advantages to one or the other. or is it just a matter of preference?
2. When I make a backup or install a new ROM using either CWM or TWRP, are there specific options I should be selecting to backup or install a new ROM to my SD card?
Thanks a lot for your help!
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Hey Andrx,
UNtil Skiddingus gets back to you, I can offer some semi-n00b impressions:
1. I've used both CWM and TWRP through my process of backing up the stock system, rooting, flashing Synergy ROM, and then de-bloating, and I can say that from a purely subjective perspective, I prefer TWRP. Mostly bc of the GUI - it's a little easier to navigate IMO. From what I understand, they basically do the same thing when it comes to recovery and flashing. I'm sure there are some technical differences that more experienced users can explain, but for a base user like me, TWRP seems to take care of my needs
2. AFAIK, If you're using TWRP, the partitions that are preselected when you choose the "Backup" tab - Boot, System, and Data - are all you need to choose for a backup of your current system. However, I think you may be either using the terms incorrectly or have an incorrect impression of how to flash a ROM. From what I understand, a custom ROM is not flashed (installed) to your SD card. You can designate your SD card as a place to store your backups of said roms or your stock ROM, but flashing a ROM sends that to your phone's internal storage to take up space in "System Memory".
Hope this helps clarify a bit, and my apologies in advance if I've botched any of this explanation. Senior members, please correct anythign I've said that may lead Andrx astray.
Cheers!
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I never did find the directory that CWM stores the backups. On Android 4.2 and up I believe it stores them in a secure hidden directory. I used the applications to delete the backups. I installed ROMmanager and used its "manage backups" option to clear my CWM backups. I used TWRP to clear its backups as well. I currently use CWM for my backups and I backup to and external sd card (32gb or less of course). My internal card has neary 7gb free and shows a total space of 9.62Gb. I have almost 2gb of apps.
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Awesome, this is definitely helpful. I'll work with those apps to clear it up and report back. Thank you!!
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skiddingus said:
I never did find the directory that CWM stores the backups. On Android 4.2 and up I believe it stores them in a secure hidden directory. I used the applications to delete the backups. I installed ROMmanager and used its "manage backups" option to clear my CWM backups. I used TWRP to clear its backups as well. I currently use CWM for my backups and I backup to and external sd card (32gb or less of course). My internal card has neary 7gb free and shows a total space of 9.62Gb. I have almost 2gb of apps.
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So!! Using TWRP, I chose: "Advanced" --> "File Manager" and then navigate to /data/media/clockworkmod/backup/xxxxweirddaterangexxx
Then press "Select" (from within the "xxxweirddaterangexxx" directory) and deleted an un-needed backup file that seemed to be almost 3GB in size.
REMEMBER TO STORE YOUR BACKUP ELSEWHERE IF YOU WANT TO KEEP A COPY.
Once I did this, my phone storage showed 7.1 GB available, whereas before it showed 4.3. W00t.
Thanks again for your help skiddingus!!
skiddingus said:
Do you have a custom recovery? If so, when you make a backup with CWM it will be several gigs and will be in a hidden directory. I had the same issue with only one backup of the stock rom. I had to place my backups on the external card and now I have a few more gigs on the internal card. Remember that CWM will not work on an external card over 32 gig. I had to sell my 64 and buy a 32 for that reason.
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OH No! This explains why I can not NANDROID with CWM to my 64 GB SD card.
I have a 64 GB SD card in my newly purchased S4. Is there any work around for this or hope of an update to fix this limitation?
swieder711 said:
OH No! This explains why I can not NANDROID with CWM to my G4 GB SD card.
I have a 64 GB SD card in my newly purchased S4. Is there any work around for this or hope of an update to fix this limitation?
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Not that I have found. I think I remember reading somewhere that it is a licensing issue with the ex-fat support. CWM does not want to pay for it. Is this correct anyone?
Does Team Win have the same issue?
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I switched from cwm to twrp and can create a nandroid on my 64gb card.
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cwm to twrp
swieder711 said:
OH No! This explains why I can not NANDROID with CWM to my 64 GB SD card.
I have a 64 GB SD card in my newly purchased S4. Is there any work around for this or hope of an update to fix this limitation?
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Yes there is. I have a SanDisk 64gb micro SD card and when I purchased it for my note 2 I had the same problem. What I did is format it to fat32 instead of ex fat using ease us partition the free version here's the link
http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm after doing that i have had no problems it works in CWM just fine and for all other tasks in my note 2 and my s4. I tried a different program before I found easeus and it seemed to work but every time I did it after it my backups would just disappear.
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Attached is the picture from my storage page. Prior to this I deleted a few apps and I thought I had enough space to download GTA Vice City. Halfway through is stopped and had an available space error. What was downloaded was still appearing in memory so I went into recovery and wiped both the cache and delvik cache. I also wiped the play store app and google services framework data and caches so I could try to reset the issue. Since then other apps have been unable to update or download due to "insufficient space", and google music won't play because of it. How can I get this cleared up?
I am running stock android rooted with clockworkmod touch recovery.
Thanks
Try folder mount app in market to free up all that space. I haven't tried it personally but I heard it works for some.
Moves big apps to sdcard and link them as if they were installed on phones memory.
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Tada10 said:
Try folder mount app in market to free up all that space. I haven't tried it personally but I heard it works for some.
Moves big apps to sdcard and link them as if they were installed on phones memory.
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My issue is I can't install any apps without the insufficient memory warning. Last night I was trying to install SD Maid to no avail
titan71 said:
My issue is I can't install any apps without the insufficient memory warning. Last night I was trying to install SD Maid to no avail
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If I were you I would flash back to stock after you first clean out the phone then reinstall everything and use that app.
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I found the issue. There was a lot of space tied up in /emulated. I've deleted those files and I can install things again. Unfortunately the storage screen still isn't adding up but it's a start
Okay I don't mean to intrude to this post but I am having the same problem with memory and I was wondering if someone could help me.
Now I still have. Zip files on my phone now once I flash them could I delete them or how's that work. Someone please help.
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LOST!!!
Ok I have 2 16gb sd cards 1 formated extsd with 4gb free out of 16gb and the 2nd card is fat format with 15.1gb free out of 16gb. I have a vzw gs4, and I use SafeStrap, I waqnted to do a back, so I installed the fat32 with 15gb available and it was trying to make the back up on the internal which didnt have enough memory, So then I put the exfat sd with 4gb available, and I was able to make the backup on that sd, I thought that fat worked on every gs4 and the exfat was the buggy one, Is it just a loki safestrap thing? TIA
Hope I get an answer, Its been a while since anyone has posted in here, Thanx again...
ciabatoni said:
Ok I have 2 16gb sd cards 1 formated extsd with 4gb free out of 16gb and the 2nd card is fat format with 15.1gb free out of 16gb. I have a vzw gs4, and I use SafeStrap, I waqnted to do a back, so I installed the fat32 with 15gb available and it was trying to make the back up on the internal which didnt have enough memory, So then I put the exfat sd with 4gb available, and I was able to make the backup on that sd, I thought that fat worked on every gs4 and the exfat was the buggy one, Is it just a loki safestrap thing? TIA
Hope I get an answer, Its been a while since anyone has posted in here, Thanx again...
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exFAT is a newer format that's Microsoft proprietary. The primary advantage over FAT32 is that it allows files greater than 4 Gb.
So, the likely problem is that your backup was bigger than 2Gb and couldn't be stored on FAT32.
Just a guess since you didn't say exactly what you used for the backup.
And exFAT isn't buggy, it's just less frequently supported.
Hope this helps.
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exFAT is a newer format that's Microsoft proprietary. The primary advantage over FAT32 is that it allows files greater than 2Gb.
So, the likely problem is that your backup was bigger than 2Gb and couldn't be stored on FAT32.
Just a guess since you didn't say exactly what you used for the backup.
And exFAT isn't buggy, it's just less frequently supported.
Hope this helps.
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4gb*
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4gb*
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Thanks. I fixed my post to have the right size, in case anyone is wondering what joshm is on about.
Hello, I have a problem with my Nubia z5s mini. I have a ROM in which I just have 2GB for installing apps. Anybody knows any ROM with more space for apps or any way to change this space? Because the phone has 16GB ROM and now I have just 2GB for apps and it is not enough for me. I know I can move apps to SD card but it's not enough.
Thank you!!
If you are able to root the phone you may not need another ROM.
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If you are able to root the phone you may not need another ROM.
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Yes, the phone is already rooted but I don't know if I can change the space for apps.
Okay, you have a number of options now to be able to free space. First, where did you get the 16GB number from?
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Okay, you have a number of options now to be able to free space. First, where did you get the 16GB number from?
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From the phone specs
Oh I understood it as you had a ROM that took up 16 GB space, but in reality you have a total of 16 GB space on your phone?
AndroidifyIt said:
Oh I understood it as you had a ROM that took up 16 GB space, but in reality you have a total of 16 GB space on your phone?
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I have 2 partitions: one of 10 GB and another one of 2 GB (devoted to install apps). Then, I can´t install more than 2GB in apps
Hmm that sounds odd. What's the 10GB version called?
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Hmm that sounds odd. What's the 10GB version called?
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Do you mean the name of the ROM? it is CyanogenMod 12.1 11th August 2015, android 5.1.1
Both partitions of storage are internal storage. Apart from that, I have a micro SD card.
I was thinking what the 10gb partition is called?
AndroidifyIt said:
I was thinking what the 10gb partition is called?
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¨Internal Storage¨, the same as the 2GB partition.
Anybody knows something?
Interesting that the system partition is that big. Anyway, download the app DiskUsage and figure out what's taking most space in the /media/Android/data folder. (And other places too).
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Interesting that the system partition is that big. Anyway, download the app DiskUsage and figure out what's taking most space in the /media/Android/data folder. (And other places too).
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Do you know how to change it to make the device install the apps in the 10GB partition?
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Do you know how to change it to make the device install the apps in the 10GB partition?
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Wait, didn't you say that the 10GB partition was the system partition? Or am I understanding it wrong?
Internal storage
I have this problem too, i don't want sd card (grow) partition in internal storage, is there any way to increase the volume of data partition?
If I format my sd card as internal storage on an android 6.0 based rom, and then I flash an android 5.1.1 based rom, will the sd card still be considered as internal storage?
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Please help me to rephrase the heading of this thread in a better way
No it won't work. The way MM handles the card is different from the way LP handles it. I recommend holding off just a little longer
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No it won't work. The way MM handles the card is different from the way LP handles it. I recommend holding off just a little longer
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Thank you!
But, what do you exactly mean by "holding off a little bit"?
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Thank you!
But, what do you exactly mean by "holding off a little bit"?
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Wait for MM to become polished before running an experimental version unless you can contribute in the way of fixes and stuff like that.
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No it won't work. The way MM handles the card is different from the way LP handles it. I recommend holding off just a little longer
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Also, can it be used as normal SD card if I flash a lollipop based rom, even after formatting it as internal in marshmallow?
And,
If I again revert back to marshmallow(after lollipop), do I have to format it as internal again?
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Also, can it be used as normal SD card if I flash a lollipop based rom, even after formatting it as internal in marshmallow?
And,
If I again revert back to marshmallow(after lollipop), do I have to format it as internal again?
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I'm not completely sure. I believe so.
if you flash MM ROM now just select 'use as external card'. If you format and use it as internal storage you can not use it in another phone or ROM. That's what the setup says when you boot MM for the first time.
There are guides that show how to partition your SD Card in TWRP in order to use it as a type of internal storage. This will work with Lollipop as well.
Hi,
I have an Xperia X F5122 which comes with 64GB storage, when I installed the stock ROM last time I skipped the Welcome/Startup wizard, so I got stuck with 32GB of storage.
The storage app in settings shows that I have 64GB, but system is allocating around ~48GB of them, so it is as if I have a 32GB phone.
So how do I retain that storage and get my lost space? Is there some sort of a file in root directory which I can delete or something? Or some sort of config file? Or maybe it is just partitioning? And if so, how do I do that?
AssemblerX86 said:
Hi,
I have an Xperia X F5122 which comes with 64GB storage, when I installed the stock ROM last time I skipped the Welcome/Startup wizard, so I got stuck with 32GB of storage.
The storage app in settings shows that I have 64GB, but system is allocating around ~48GB of them, so it is as if I have a 32GB phone.
So how do I retain that storage and get my lost space? Is there some sort of a file in root directory which I can delete or something? Or some sort of config file? Or maybe it is just partitioning? And if so, how do I do that?
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fix it using twrp
https://www.theandroidsoul.com/fix-incorrect-storage-16gb-32gb-64gb/amp/
Roowz said:
fix it using twrp
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That did it, thanks.
AssemblerX86 said:
That did it, thanks.
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no problem