As the topic says, I wonder if we can get a working copy on the Prime. Story follows:
CNET's Brooke Crothers says that his sources have told him that Windows 8 is now stable on the ARM platform and will be seeded to developers soon. He also suggests that the ARM versions of Windows 8 will indeed include the legacy Windows desktop.
"Windows 8 on ARM should go to developers in February, said one source, who had some hands-on time with a high-profile device from a major PC maker, adding that Windows 8 was impressive and stable," Crothers writes. "In October of last year [Windows 8 on ARM] scared the industry because it was unstable. But what we are seeing now is quite stable, said another source, who also confirmed an expected February developer time frame."
Among the other tidbits of interest in this post:
Less expensive. ARM-based Windows 8 devices will be less expensive than those based on x86 ... to the tune of "hundreds of dollars less on ARM. "
ARM and x86 releases will not be staggered. Despite rumors that the ARM- and x86-based versions of Windows 8 might ship at different times, Crothers's sources say that's not so. "The release of Windows 8 on ARM should not be later than the release of Windows 8 on Intel," the post notes.
Microsoft Office. According to one of Crothers's sources, "Office is fine [on ARM]." If true, this means that the legacy Windows desktop will be included on ARM-based versions of Windows.
Legacy applications. As expected, however, normal legacy applications will not work on ARM without being recompiled for that platform. "I'm not aware of any third-party legacy applications running on Windows 8 on ARM," one source told CNET.
Why so secret. One of the most vexing things about dealing with Microsoft these days is the veil of secrecy around anything about Windows 8. The app compatibility story on ARM-based Windows 8 versions may be a big part of this, the report suggests. "That's one of the snags that Microsoft is trying to work through. You want to come out with a fairly robust library of applications, one source said. Both believe this is one of the reasons Microsoft is being cautious about demonstrating Windows 8 on ARM."
Interesting stuff.
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Source:
http://www.winsupersite.com/blog/su...indows-8-arm-stable-heading-developers-142084
OG won't be an washy port. As Microsoft added some very secure securities to it to prevent being dual booted or loaded onto devices originally not meant for it. That's the first issue. Second issue is Microsoft released VERY STRICT GUIDELINES ON REQUIREMENTS OF SPECS in order for device to be able to run win 8. Take a look at them. Its crazy what they requiring. DEVELOPERS will have to work around this as prime or even future models don't met those specs. Actually no android tablet out now or coming Mets those specs.
demandarin said:
OG won't be an washy port. As Microsoft added some very secure securities to it to prevent being dual booted or loaded onto devices originally not meant for it. That's the first issue. Second issue is Microsoft released VERY STRICT GUIDELINES ON REQUIREMENTS OF SPECS in order for device to be able to run win 8. Take a look at them. Its crazy what they requiring. DEVELOPERS will have to work around this as prime or even future models don't met those specs. Actually no android tablet out now or coming Mets those specs.
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nah that's just Microsoft being Microsoft.
I'm actually getting sort of use to Android now with the TPS, and now finding myself slip up and try to scroll with two fingers on my laptop's mousepad.
the_game_master said:
nah that's just Microsoft being Microsoft.
I'm actually getting sort of use to Android now with the TPS, and now finding myself slip up and try to scroll with two fingers on my laptop's mousepad.
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$5 says if you install the latest drivers (synaptic I assume) from mfr site you can. The touch pad does NOT need to support multi touch, they basically say if it detects wierd input, assume 2 fingers for scrolling. Even worked on my old Pentium M which was definitely not multi touch. Won't give you pinch zoom like the new models but 2 finger scrolling is FORWARD compatible, at least with synaptic.
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the_game_master said:
nah that's just Microsoft being Microsoft.
I'm actually getting sort of use to Android now with the TPS, and now finding myself slip up and try to scroll with two fingers on my laptop's mousepad.
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I find myself poking the screen on laptops now.... trying to scroll websites and launch programs
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Wordlywisewiz said:
I find myself poking the screen on laptops now.... trying to scroll websites and launch programs
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Right? I and the when I try to go back to using the touchpad its like I have never used it before.
Ignore the Windows 8 ARM requirements. It is easy to install every previous version of Windows on much lower specs.
Back in February 2011, Microsoft was doing Tegra 2 demonstrations of Windows 8 on a very low-spec tablet.
Windows 8 can run very well on the Prime, it will just take time to get everything working.
xTRICKYxx said:
Ignore the Windows 8 ARM requirements. It is easy to install every previous version of Windows on much lower specs.
Back in February 2011, Microsoft was doing Tegra 2 demonstrations of Windows 8 on a very low-spec tablet.
Windows 8 can run very well on the Prime, it will just take time to get everything working.
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Good news to hear then. Can't wait till dual boot possibility then. Hopefully it can be as simple as an apk install..lol I had an old tilt2(rhodium) win mote phone. I was able to dualboot android, xdandroid, thru just a cab install.
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I find myself poking the screen on laptops now.... trying to scroll websites and launch programs
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When my mother wanted to see if she could borrow my old notebook, I did that too, a lot....which oddlyshe had tried with my netbook once when fiddling with it, before getting a tablet lol.
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demandarin said:
OG won't be an washy port. As Microsoft added some very secure securities to it to prevent being dual booted or loaded onto devices originally not meant for it. That's the first issue. Second issue is Microsoft released VERY STRICT GUIDELINES ON REQUIREMENTS OF SPECS in order for device to be able to run win 8. Take a look at them. Its crazy what they requiring. DEVELOPERS will have to work around this as prime or even future models don't met those specs. Actually no android tablet out now or coming Mets those specs.
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Going by this:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/windows-8-tablet-requirements-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/17773
The specs aren't higher as much as they are just different and in some cases lower than what the Prime already offers.
* Display has to be 1366x768
- The current Prime is already 1280x800, which is darn close, I don't see problems fitting UI elements designed for a 1366x768 screen. And there are already tablets that will support 1920x1200 soon (next Prime demoed at recent CES). So some Android tablets have already surpassed that spec.
* Cameras must be 720p or better.
- Who cares, the back camera already surpasses this, but again software shouldn't care about this spec.
* Physical ‘touch marks’ for NFC hardware sensor to make using it easier.
- Whatever, just disable NFC support.
* One USB port, Bluetooth 4.0, WLAN, gyro, accelerometer, speakers, light sensor, and magnetometer must be fitted.
- With dock we have USB, Bluetooth is 3.0 is what we have currently, this might be a bit tricky to port depending on the driver model. I'm guessing the Magnetometer is for a fall sensor if you have a physical spinning hard disk in your tablet (yuck). And we have the rest already.
* Firmware must be UEFI
-Possibly trickiest requirement to get through depending on the OS software checks.
* USB 2.0 support.
- We have USB 3.0 support already, another spec the Prime has surpassed.
* Mandatory hardware buttons: power, rotation lock, windows key, volume up and volume down buttons.
- Rotation lock can be done via software, windows key might be trickier to implement. Hopefully we can do something like Button Savior does for Android (on screen soft buttons to emulate hardware buttons)
* Five point touch
- Another spec surpassed, we already have a 10 point touch sensor on the Prime.
* 10 GB free storage space.
-Easy to come by on our 32GB and 64GB Primes.
And what I would consider the most important spec isn't even specified, which is minimum CPU required for acceptable performance, classic Microsoft to only specify minimums for the surpuflous crap.
TalynOne said:
Going by this:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/windows-8-tablet-requirements-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/17773
The specs aren't higher as much as they are just different and in some cases lower than what the Prime already offers.
* Display has to be 1366x768
- The current Prime is already 1280x800, which is darn close, I don't see problems fitting UI elements designed for a 1366x768 screen. And there are already tablets that will support 1920x1200 soon (next Prime demoed at recent CES). So some Android tablets have already surpassed that spec.
* Cameras must be 720p or better.
- Who cares, the back camera already surpasses this, but again software shouldn't care about this spec.
* Physical ‘touch marks’ for NFC hardware sensor to make using it easier.
- Whatever, just disable NFC support.
* One USB port, Bluetooth 4.0, WLAN, gyro, accelerometer, speakers, light sensor, and magnetometer must be fitted.
- With dock we have USB, Bluetooth is 3.0 is what we have currently, this might be a bit tricky to port depending on the driver model. I'm guessing the Magnetometer is for a fall sensor if you have a physical spinning hard disk in your tablet (yuck). And we have the rest already.
* Firmware must be UEFI
-Possibly trickiest requirement to get through depending on the OS software checks.
* USB 2.0 support.
- We have USB 3.0 support already, another spec the Prime has surpassed.
* Mandatory hardware buttons: power, rotation lock, windows key, volume up and volume down buttons.
- Rotation lock can be done via software, windows key might be trickier to implement. Hopefully we can do something like Button Savior does for Android (on screen soft buttons to emulate hardware buttons)
* Five point touch
- Another spec surpassed, we already have a 10 point touch sensor on the Prime.
* 10 GB free storage space.
-Easy to come by on our 32GB and 64GB Primes.
And what I would consider the most important spec isn't even specified, which is minimum CPU required for acceptable performance, classic Microsoft to only specify minimums for the surpuflous crap.
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OK, I see now. I guess the screen resolution and NFC requirement thru me off the most. Thanks for clarifying that.
Windows 8 was demonstrated lightly on the Tegra 2 platform and heavily on the Tegra 3 platform.
The Prime's hardware is there; it will just take some development.
Anyone Try to Install/Dual boot Windows 8 on Prime?
Just wondering if anyone owns the TF201 Prime and has actually tried to dual boot it or install Windows 8?
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Just wondering if anyone owns the TF201 Prime and has actually tried to dual boot it or install Windows 8?
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that won't work at all since the win8 copy that's out right now is the x86 branch.
we need the arm branch to at least begin to start trying to get it working.
plus we need an unlocked bootloader as well.
Hey all, I know i'm kinda late to the party, but I found a nice little Bluetooth keyboard that has an integrated stand. It works really well for the Tab Pro 10.1 even though it's technically made for the iPad.
Here's a link to my review (with pics). http://www.amazon.com/review/R2XJOV3VU2D9EX/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00HAZOSWY
Looks like a great option. I wish I had found this thread months ago. I've had my Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 for almost a full year now, and while I love the performance, functionality and portability of it, I agree that it has been missing a keyboard.
It seems Samsung has abandoned the Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1. After months of searching I could not find a single custom keyboard option. Instead I could only find general/basic Android keyboards.
I've tried several Belkin options and some Logitech. Which do okay. Now I'm waiting on a keyboard from WayTools called the Textblade. It is a stand alone option, that is super thin and portable. Since I travel for work and run between classrooms at my University Portable is very important to me. I cannot fit my tablet, books, notebooks, keyboard, laptop, mouse, and etc. So I'm cutting down removing the 5 lbs laptop and 1 lb Belkin keyboard for the aforementioned option.
Thanks for making this post.
You're welcome.
Is that Textblade keyboard made specifically for the Tab Pro or is is a generic Android device?
Unfortunately it is generic but portability is the main selling point. See https://waytools.com/hands-on
Funny, I just pre-ordered a TextBlade as well. Looking forward to it!
Hi everyone,
for a project, I need to get a 10" Android tablet and the only real requirement is that it has to have at least 10 simultaneous multi touch points.
Unfortunately, it seems like this little details doesn't pop up in almost all of the specification listings on websites
So, do any of you know of a tablet that has a guaranteed number of 10 or more multi touch points?
Goddchen
Many (most) modern touch screens have exactly 10 touch points. I believe it's the industry standard for now. If not specified, probably almost every tablet will be fine for your needs.
okay, I see. Thank you.
If anyone is interested in this, I can create a mini tut how. You will need root on the other android device but not on Yogabook. I am guessing that I am the only one who uses it this way.
I use my Yogabook to draw on my Note 2014 10.1 for example. Sounds like a stupid idea, but it is not. For instance I can keep the screen at any distance I want, I also can use the pressure sensitive pen on the screen of Samsung Note without disconnecting my Yogabook So I can switch back and forth at no cost.
This seems to work with any android tablet well as long as they have proper input. I tested it with my Nook Hd and it works. So if you have a 12 inch android tablet then you will get much nicer screen space and much better pressure sensitivity. The Yogabook pen has much deeper pressure sensing compared to the wacom stuff ships with Samsung line as far a I can tell.
I haven't got one yet but plan to (there are other more urgent pending expenses), but I would love to have this for when I do get it. I'm guessing that not only will it work for other tablets but any other Android devices (like tv boxes).
But anyways, I hope you share (and that the method survives the nougat upgrade if/when it comes).
Apologies for the thread resurrection. Did you make progress with this? And if so, how well does it work?
Can I, for example, use Sketchbook or Squid on one Android device, and just use my Yoga Book as an input device for it, much as one would use an Intuos tablet on a PC? Can it operate with the Yoga Book's screen turned off?
Hello, I wanted to ask people that own Mi pad 4, and plus version (which I plan to take) as well (I don't know the difference between them except screen size) is this laptop good in way of productivity? I am searching not expensive solution from such as browsing, google docs office editing most. As I plan to use custom rom on device 100%, but want to know how is tablet productivity, performance? Is multitasking works good, and split screen for 2 apps on one screen? As for productivity and getting rid of my almost completely broken laptop, I also plan to get Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, but is tablet supports 2 Bluetooth devices at once? Thank you
If you want productivity get a notebook imo.
My son prefer the mi pad4 for remote class lessons this days over Dell notebook. His school uses Zoom.
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yeah i think buying a worthy device is apt in this circumstances..i will do the same..thanks guys