Potential SERIOUS situation with Battery built-in (Unremoveable) - Note 7 Guides, News, & Discussion

Another thread regarding a locked up phone (making loud noises, etc) brings to mind another SERIOUS problem I have just remembered, a situation I have experienced already...
How many of us have had "problems" with our Phones in the past where they have Locked Up and wouldn't shut down even with the Power Button (holding down for multiple seconds even) where the ONLY option was to remove the Battery?? I have certainly experienced this scenario a few times over the years with my Note 4 and 2 and S2.
So. Say this happens to us, even with electrical appliances, machinery can always "crash"/hard freeze/blue screen of death, etc. Computers are notorious for this.
So now what, with an unremoveable Battery, that seems most likely one of the most stupidest/unsafest (potentially dangerous/hazardous) designs that have literally been forced upon us.
(And conspiracy theorists have always said "they" can always listen in to your phone/track you, etc, even when it's turned off, the only way to make sure you are FREE from this is to remove the Battery.
Hmmm. Think people. Think!

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If you hold down the power button for 15 seconds on any Android phone without a removable battery. it will ALWAYS turn off. For Samsungs it's the power and volume buttons (because Samsung). It's literally the same thing as removing the battery. Don't worry about not being able to restart the phone.
As for the NSA listening to your phone when it's off.. you can make a tiny tinfoil hat for the phone. Stops the signal and looks really fashionable. \s

This reminds me of the days when people were experimenting CPUs from Intel and AMD by overclocking them until processors explode.
In the case of consumer electronic batteries, I would say its less violent compared to an overclocked CPU. The possibility for the battery is to bloat at abnormal conditions. When vent gets blocked or the pack is sealed, bloat leads to pinching of anode-separator-cathode-separator layers. Excessive pinching will eventually lead to torn layers or squeezed anode-cathode layers. This is then where the shorted layer ignites and produces fire. Fire generates heat. Heat melts nearby materials...in the end, its a Note 7 with distorted (melted/charred) appearance near and around its battery compartment (Left side when facing the screen) as what I've seen from the net.
Personally, I am not worried about the possibility of my Note 7 exploding. It's less likely. A pop maybe. But that worries me is when the unit starts to combust. While at home, my Note 7 safety companion is a metal can. This is to isolate the unit from the rest of combustible materials in case it starts to heat up and catches fire. I always check for the temperature of the unit. This is so far my only indicator that something bad is about to happen. I am tempted to pry open the Note 7 to see what the real story about this "exploding" battery reports. But then, my pocket is telling me, its not yet worth my curiousity. Will try to negotiate with Samsung if they can give me a potentially defective Note 7 as a freebie when I go for a replacement.

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HTC and Verizon still towing the party line ...

Decided to try to call Verizon and again inquire about heat. I was very specific in the inquiry ... basically that I was just checking to see if Verizon had any notes about heat, now that the phone has been out for a while.
The CSR said she did see something about exchanging batteries and would pass me on the tech support as a warranty issue.
The tech support person, after a seriously long hold time, said she reviewed the Verizon trouble database, checked with a teir 2 analyst, and even called HTC.
Not surprisingly (once HTC was involved) she came back with:
1) We recommend people with heat issues use a Vinyl case to help with heat [I guess Vinyl has heat-dissipation capabilities I was not previously aware of]
2) Hard reset the phone
3) If you are streaming and your phone gets hot, stop streaming for a while
4) Buy an extended battery [did that, still gets hot]
5) This is a very powerful processor, so it will get hot.
#5 is the key. It means"we have found the excuse that will get us out of this".
The tech rep said she saw nothing about battery exchange. She acknowledged MANY internet reports about heat, but said that Verizon can only do what HTC says they can do; and that hopefully HTC would take all these reports and develop a software fix that manages the heat better.
So no joy from Verizon, which is killing me because I really want to unlock and root, but am staying away in case the phone is no good. Of course, for all I know, I don't have heat issues, but too many people saying things like "I never go above 105" have me paranoid about my phone (which can get to 115 in regular game play, and once got to 120 in a car). If I knew that "Relocked" wouldn't be an issue if I ever had to warranty in the future, I would go ahead, but ... ugh.
Anyway, in case anyone wanted to know.
Damn talk about a run-around. Normally my phone doesn't get warm until I really start using it...for example...One day just cleaning up the house and streaming Pandora for hours allowed my phone to get fairly warm.
It's never shut down on me or anything but it still is worrisome. Makes me wonder if there is an issue with all these phones but not many people REALLY use them to find out.
Well
My phone has never rebooted on me, and perhaps too many people claiming their usage never gets the phone above X degrees is simply too specific to each person to actually mean anything to anyone else (and all these stories have done, is F'd with my mind, making me think my phone runs hot when maybe it actually doesn't) ...
but, I'll tell you this ...
This is all well and good for a phone released in November. When summer rolls around, and the ambient temperature is no longer low, I think we are going to see a lot of problems and fast. If the standard user gets to 105 in a room that's 70, that means the standard user will start seeing 135 when it is hot out. Those that can get to 115 right now, that's an explosion waiting to happen come July.
I have had two Rezound's. I stream audio all day long at work, either iheart radio or sirius radio online.
Both these services cause ANY phone to get rather warm. I'm not sure what temp my first one went to, but it got so hot in my pocket I thought it was going to burn me. Even using a 2750 batt it was going dead in like 4 hours.
The phone was two weeks old. I called VZ & they wanted to send me a refurb. I told them NFW & they finally agreed to send me a brand new phone. The new phone barely gets warm in the same conditions & that same 2750 battery lasts all day now.
My phone on average use gets about 100-105, 110 if the screen is on and on full brightness for a while. Highest I've seen is 125 when I was using an MHL adapter for over an hour, then the phone shut down. Other than that I haven't seen any shut downs related to heat. I do agree though that come summer, this IS going to be a problem, but hopefully by then they'll have figured out a way to better manage heat... I hope.
Ya know, I think people are losing sight of the fact that the power of these cpus has increased dramatically in only a couple of years. I'm typing this on a dual core 2.2GHz lenovo laptop that has cooling fans, and is running 109f doing very little. Why should we expect a dual core 1.5 jammed into a metal and plastic brick without vent holes, much less fans, to run cool?
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kierandill said:
Ya know, I think people are losing sight of the fact that the power of these cpus has increased dramatically in only a couple of years. I'm typing this on a dual core 2.2GHz lenovo laptop that has cooling fans, and is running 109f doing very little. Why should we expect a dual core 1.5 jammed into a metal and plastic brick without vent holes, much less fans, to run cool?
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I agree with that no issues. I suspect a lot of my concerns comes from various people at XDA saying "I stream 1080P while playing Reckless Getaway while listening to Pandora over 1x while on the telephone and my phone never gets any warmer than 32°F/0°C".
Unfortunately, without someone with one of those magic Rezounds standing right next to me, running the same game (for example), there is no way to REALLY know if a phone is operating normally or not.
jdmba said:
This is all well and good for a phone released in November. When summer rolls around, and the ambient temperature is no longer low, I think we are going to see a lot of problems and fast. If the standard user gets to 105 in a room that's 70, that means the standard user will start seeing 135 when it is hot out. Those that can get to 115 right now, that's an explosion waiting to happen come July.
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I welcome this problem coming in at summertime as they may be forced to replace my rezound with one of the new quad cores or somethin.. dont get me wrong I love this phone but if a defect got me the latest/greatest I'd be all over it..

[Q] Battery loosing power - Battery Depleted?

Hello all, I am here to see if anyone can break this down for me.
Recently my phone's battery status has been, well, acting weirdly. For instance, let's say the phone says it has 36% left, shut it down, turn it back on, it says it has 24% left, but then a minute later zoom back up to 32%. This got me wondering if it was my battery depleted. The phone it's self is over 1 and a half years old. Possibly 2, so it wouldn't be surprising to see it is depleted.
Even if it isn't depleted, what's with my phone dying in 2-4 hours with Data Connection on? I mean, when it's on Airplane mode it hardly uses any battery at all, minus 5% in 6-8 hours of on-time. But with the mobile data connection on it uses 30-40% in 1 hour. This is strange.
The photo describing my issues above are included. You will notice a huge drop and spike back up, this is where the battery says it is at a high percentage then goes down 5-12% then back up. Before it was only 5%, but as time went on this difference got bigger. Now it's 5-15% of battery lost.
In one instance I have the battery at 17%, then all of a sudden it drops to 11% seconds after taking the 17% screenshot. You can also notice the huge drop in the history. Can someone describe what's happening?
thehumanslayer12 said:
Hello all, I am here to see if anyone can break this down for me.
Recently my phone's battery status has been, well, acting weirdly. For instance, let's say the phone says it has 36% left, shut it down, turn it back on, it says it has 24% left, but then a minute later zoom back up to 32%. This got me wondering if it was my battery depleted. The phone it's self is over 1 and a half years old. Possibly 2, so it wouldn't be surprising to see it is depleted.
Even if it isn't depleted, what's with my phone dying in 2-4 hours with Data Connection on? I mean, when it's on Airplane mode it hardly uses any battery at all, minus 5% in 6-8 hours of on-time. But with the mobile data connection on it uses 30-40% in 1 hour. This is strange.
The photo describing my issues above are included. You will notice a huge drop and spike back up, this is where the battery says it is at a high percentage then goes down 5-12% then back up. Before it was only 5%, but as time went on this difference got bigger. Now it's 5-15% of battery lost.
In one instance I have the battery at 17%, then all of a sudden it drops to 11% seconds after taking the 17% screenshot. You can also notice the huge drop in the history. Can someone describe what's happening?
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Has the device been dropped or encountered any moisture? Sounds like it could be a Hardware/software problem....but like you said there could be a 50/50 chance that it is the battery Tho......there is replacement batterys you can purchase online and you can dissasemble the phone pretty easily to repair/replace the battery
nightevo89 said:
Has the device been dropped or encountered any moisture? Sounds like it could be a Hardware/software problem....but like you said there could be a 50/50 chance that it is the battery Tho......there is replacement batterys you can purchase online and you can dissasemble the phone pretty easily to repair/replace the battery
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I've dropped it a few times, but this was on soft terrain (EX: Bed, Pillows, etc.). I only dropped it twice on hard or rough terrain (EX: Kitchen Floor, Sidewalk, etc.) but it had a case on. I dropped it once on the floor of my kitchen and it impacted the right-lower corner of the phone, the case was severely chipped, and there is a noticeable graze (is what I can describe) into the phone where it impacted, when you feel your finger over it, you can feel the damage that happened. It was right under the microphone, but nothing was damaged (the phone was still working fine). The second time for some reason my muscles in my arms said "Nah, taking a break" (when I was giving my phone to my friend) and my hand opened and my phone went flying into the street (still with this hard case on, the same one that was chipped), I picked it up quickly and the back of the case was entirely scratched bad. It also impacted hard on the lower-left side corner of the phone, a chunk of the case broke off. But no damage was done to the exterior of the phone.
If by moisture you mean water (or any liquid), then yes. I have spilled water on it before, but not a lot, just a few drops. This was on the screen though, so I'm not sure if anything "would" happen.
thehumanslayer12 said:
I've dropped it a few times, but this was on soft terrain (EX: Bed, Pillows, etc.). I only dropped it twice on hard or rough terrain (EX: Kitchen Floor, Sidewalk, etc.) but it had a case on. I dropped it once on the floor of my kitchen and it impacted the right-lower corner of the phone, the case was severely chipped, and there is a noticeable graze (is what I can describe) into the phone where it impacted, when you feel your finger over it, you can feel the damage that happened. It was right under the microphone, but nothing was damaged (the phone was still working fine). The second time for some reason my muscles in my arms said "Nah, taking a break" (when I was giving my phone to my friend) and my hand opened and my phone went flying into the street (still with this hard case on, the same one that was chipped), I picked it up quickly and the back of the case was entirely scratched bad. It also impacted hard on the lower-left side corner of the phone, a chunk of the case broke off. But no damage was done to the exterior of the phone.
If by moisture you mean water (or any liquid), then yes. I have spilled water on it before, but not a lot, just a few drops. This was on the screen though, so I'm not sure if anything "would" happen.
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It's more than likely a software issue....kit Kat has bugs and one of them is battery drainage issues...lollipop 5.0.2 is in the integration stage as we speak and isnt far from the certification stage of being released...with the update is gonna bring a lot of enhancements and bug fixes including better battery life....also on kitkat one of the things that's helped me get way better battery life on my m7 is using power saver and only using WiFi and mobile data when needed...and when im making calls and text only I use extreme power saver.....now as far as the issue with the battery changing it's state of charge before and after the device is powered off and on sounds like a hardware or battery defect....it could just be a coincidence but to be safe I'd have a certified repair shop take a look at it and do an evaluation to see what May or May not be wrong with it! If you need any help or have questions please pm me!!!!
nightevo89 said:
It's more than likely a software issue....kit Kat has bugs and one of them is battery drainage issues...lollipop 5.0.2 is in the integration stage as we speak and isnt far from the certification stage of being released...with the update is gonna bring a lot of enhancements and bug fixes including better battery life....also on kitkat one of the things that's helped me get way better battery life on my m7 is using power saver and only using WiFi and mobile data when needed...and when im making calls and text only I use extreme power saver.....now as far as the issue with the battery changing it's state of charge before and after the device is powered off and on sounds like a hardware or battery defect....it could just be a coincidence but to be safe I'd have a certified repair shop take a look at it and do an evaluation to see what May or May not be wrong with it! If you need any help or have questions please pm me!!!!
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Thanks! I sure will do what you said, I'll take it to AT&T's Hardware Department so they can check it out. And Android 5 is coming to the M7?

Runs way too hot under most use cases

I know all the reviews said this phone got slightly warm due to the screen, but in my nearly year-long stint of owning this phone, I find that remark to have been grossly misrepresented. When charging, my phone gets extremely hot on the power button. After charging, it takes a good 5-10 minutes to cool off. While the phone is hot, (and I mean HOT,) the phone hiccups, stutters, and can become totally unresponsive. Applications act up, etc.
When I attempt wireless charging with my add-on receiver, things get infinitely worse. I cannot charge with the screen on and data connected.
In my car, I connect via BT to my car, my audio receiver, and my OB2 scanner. That doesn't seem to be a problem, other than BT being sometimes flaky. I have a wireless charger in my car, but I only used it once -- no point. Now, even with my 2.1a charger, I cannot keep my G3 topped-off while using GPS and streaming Spotify. The phone practically melts. Things are better when I'm blasting the A/C on it straight from a vent, (and worse if I try to use my heater in cold months.
Basically this thing is in a perpetual state of overheating. I have had three of these. My last unit overheated so badly that the screen became discolored. You might say that I expect too much from my phone, but my M7 had no issue, and my S5 did not overheat. I had to give up the Sammy for other reasons.
I have made various tweaks in the past in attempt to counter the sluggishness due to heat, but that's dangerous--and likely why my last phone actually failed. I decided to leave that alone and deal with the crippling slowness. Even something as simple as swiping a word on the Google Keyboard becomes impossible.
My question to you guys, is do you notice this burden on a daily basis? Perhaps the average person that doesn't need a charger all day can keep this beast cool? I am strongly considering the S6 because of the reports flooding in of how hot the Snap 810 runs compared to the Exy. What are your thoughts?
I haven't seen this behavior at all. I've had little blips of hotness, but I almost think it's more environmental in some cases. Certainly not while charging, and I routinely leave it plugged in while I'm using it or watching Netflix or something. I'm sure you've thought about this, but are you sure it's not your charger? Does it overheat after a full factory reset (i.e. out of the box)? If not, what specific add-ons and/or ROMs do you use?
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I haven't seen this behavior at all. I've had little blips of hotness, but I almost think it's more environmental in some cases. Certainly not while charging, and I routinely leave it plugged in while I'm using it or watching Netflix or something. I'm sure you've thought about this, but are you sure it's not your charger? Does it overheat after a full factory reset (i.e. out of the box)? If not, what specific add-ons and/or ROMs do you use?
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Due to the nature of DC, the charger cannot be the culprit in terms of overheating. Not staying topped off? Sure, but not the heat. The phone regulates all of that.
You are telling me that you can stream Spotify (highest setting for me,) and Google navigation, and your phone doesn't get blisteringly hot? I've been charging on the cable (instead of wireless,) to get my phone up from 93%, with the screen completely off, and it's pretty warm on the power button right now.
I am running stock ROM, (though rooted.) I have used various G3s, various ROMs, completely stock, various chargers, you name it. No matter what, this phone gets furiously hot when the screen stays on. Even using it as a clock on my desk causes it to heat up like no one's business. Streaming a movie causes it to get pretty damn hot. It seems like the environment of the car being warmer, and GPS being used with data is the main culprit. Like the internal heatsinks/paths become overwhelmed.
ScrapMaker said:
I know all the reviews said this phone got slightly warm due to the screen, but in my nearly year-long stint of owning this phone, I find that remark to have been grossly misrepresented. When charging, my phone gets extremely hot on the power button. After charging, it takes a good 5-10 minutes to cool off. While the phone is hot, (and I mean HOT,) the phone hiccups, stutters, and can become totally unresponsive. Applications act up, etc.
When I attempt wireless charging with my add-on receiver, things get infinitely worse. I cannot charge with the screen on and data connected.
In my car, I connect via BT to my car, my audio receiver, and my OB2 scanner. That doesn't seem to be a problem, other than BT being sometimes flaky. I have a wireless charger in my car, but I only used it once -- no point. Now, even with my 2.1a charger, I cannot keep my G3 topped-off while using GPS and streaming Spotify. The phone practically melts. Things are better when I'm blasting the A/C on it straight from a vent, (and worse if I try to use my heater in cold months.
Basically this thing is in a perpetual state of overheating. I have had three of these. My last unit overheated so badly that the screen became discolored. You might say that I expect too much from my phone, but my M7 had no issue, and my S5 did not overheat. I had to give up the Sammy for other reasons.
I have made various tweaks in the past in attempt to counter the sluggishness due to heat, but that's dangerous--and likely why my last phone actually failed. I decided to leave that alone and deal with the crippling slowness. Even something as simple as swiping a word on the Google Keyboard becomes impossible.
My question to you guys, is do you notice this burden on a daily basis? Perhaps the average person that doesn't need a charger all day can keep this beast cool? I am strongly considering the S6 because of the reports flooding in of how hot the Snap 810 runs compared to the Exy. What are your thoughts?
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A simple solution might just be buying an external charger and spare battery combination and never use the phone for charging.
I have always bought external battery chargers and hot swapped a fully charged battery and put my dead battery on the external wall charger when I go to sleep.
Hope this helps.
(I've been buying Anker chargers & batteries on Amazon with success)
I think you're right. However I likely won't keep this phone much longer. S6 Active or G4 are calling my name...

Galaxy Tab S7+ Cooling Solutions?

My Galaxy Tab S7+ has an overheating problem. Sent it in for service. Got it back in exactly the same condition I sent it (aside from all the sticky residue they left on the back of it). The display near the docking pins gets hot as soon as I launch an app. Not warm. Hot. I've only had it for a month so it's under warranty but I don't want to send it back again. I trust Samsung as far as I can throw them. I'm hoping to find a way to cool it down some. Suggestions?
Get on the phone with customer service and demand action.
While this is only anecdotal evidence, my stock Tab S7 Plus never gets hot. It never even gets warm.
This is the first Android device I haven't rooted immediately in years. I'm not sure if that matters. But I've found different custom kernels and different ROMs can cause different heat issues.
I've had all of the Google tablets made and they've all had heat problems to some degree. I had one Nexus 9 tablet that would heat up to the point of kernel panic and reboot. I sent that back to Google with logs and received a new one that never got *too hot.
As you likely know, all CPUs in the same batch have different acceptable variances and tolerances and some just get hot and others don't. If your tablet gets too hot and causes problems and or might have a shortened lifespan because of the heat, you deserve a new one from any company.
My Tab S7 plus just never gets hot or even warm. I've got a lucky one I guess. For once.

Question Xperia 1 mark III overheating

Hi,
I noticed my xperia 1 mark III is overheating even in normal use, especially in 120Hz mode. I hope sony will fix it as this device is really scalding.
It really burns!
This is the hottest device I ever had
Software version: 61.0.A.11.23
You're burning up your battery. Time is of the essence, resolve this issue fast. Shutdown the phone if it gets too hot!!!
Auto thermal shutdown may not protect the display/mobo especially if in hot ambient temperatures, in direct sunlight, or when charging.
Keep brightness at 50% or less.
Factory reset.
If that fails...
Find the apks or/and services causing to high drain.
If that fails, return the device.
The clock is ticking, Mr Wick tic-tok...
This is a serious problem. I took some photos and videos (4k and slowmotion) while standing in the sun. Outside temperature was about 23°C (73°F). After about 5 minutes I got an overheat message.
An app that I installed earlier registered an internal temperature of 40.5°c. It felt really hot to (while in a bumper case).
After I put the phone on a granite kitchen table it cooled down in about 10 minutes.
jordidejongh said:
This is a serious problem. I took some photos and videos (4k and slowmotion) while standing in the sun. Outside temperature was about 23°C (73°F). After about 5 minutes I got an overheat message.
An app that I installed earlier registered an internal temperature of 40.5°c. It felt really hot to (while in a bumper case).
After I put the phone on a granite kitchen table it cooled down in about 10 minutes.
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It is serious. Turn off the phone when it feels very warm before it goes over temperature.
Using a AMOLED display in direct sunlight is never a good plan. Limit it to seconds of use.
I have had this same problem since I got it to the point where I got an alert that some apps would be shutdown.
US Version purchased from Adoroma in the states : 61.0.A.11.23
Just another aggravating issue with this phone. Some are having boot loops of a sort also! What is wrong with these companies? Can they not produce a decent product anymore? 1300.00 and it's junk???????????
I am getting overheating as well, a little warm most of the time I use the phone.
Definitely was the 120hz display turned on. Less warm when the 60.
When using the wireless charger.
Anytime I use the cameras.
I am on the latest update as well.
Hm, very intriguing issue with $1300 flagship smartphone from such a respectable brand. I had similar problem with Xperia 1 II in several occasions. And... I think I know what's the problem (not bloody hot SD888 as you might suggest!). Please have a good look at dissasembly video:
Then compare it with $390 LG V60 ThinQ disassembly video from the same guy. Spot the difference! And it is - missing cooling system on Xperia 1 II / 1 III whereas LG V60 has quite big copper vapour chamber! Maybe that's why my LG V60 never gets really hot. So the question is ... WTF are you doing SONY?!
Well, I just sent back my first Pixel - 5A - for overheating. I have been watching the 1 iii and the 5 iii as a possible purchase...but I am turned off by the dedicated assistant button that might possibly be remappable... but for sure I will NOT buy either of these mark 3 phones if they overheat! Makes me sick just how badly most new phones are functioning.
Yeah same, it seems to turn off randomly when using the cameras and when 120HZ screen is on.
senzazn12 said:
Yeah same, it seems to turn off randomly when using the cameras and when 120HZ screen is on.
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I think it's the case for warranty replacement or even return if possible. This is one of the reason why I don't buy expensive brand new phones parallel imported (not officially sold in my country). Just because it means no proper warranty, no service, no nothing.
My Xperia 1 III is getting extremely hot even when taking photos (only 2-3) then get message about hot temperature and apps shutting down.
I use Streamlabs mostly (sometimes Prism) to broadcast to YouTube, foundthe phone almost useless! Overheating in seconds from start of s stream! I'm using my old Samsung Note 10 again as Sony wasn't simply useful.
Now I found a solution to it (sorry solution is too big word)
- I've turned "object tracking" off in camera
- I've turned autofocus on in camera
- I've turned 120hz off
Today we had hot day here in UK (27 Celcius ) I did my tests.
Streamlabs at 1080p , 7000kbps , 30fps run outdoor for about an hour smoothly. Connected to charger started to overheat.
Not to mention that tethering makes it hot quickly (so with Samsung).
Prism at 1080p 60fps run smoothly for couple of minutes and then crashed.
Didn't connect the charger.
I use Streamlabs to transmit 5-6 hours of stream into YouTube using mobile network in most if the times and whilst driving (so changing stations constantly)
I found that using WiFi it doesn't get as hot.
Also charging makes it very hot - SONY advertised it as able to by powered directly by a charger without charging battery, how and where do I find that option?
Is it available using car charger with quick charge 3.0?
I like the phone , like the shape , size and feel to it. Camera is OK (I own Sony a6500 )
Hate the fact of poor selfie camera in such expensive phone (I do live streams using selfie cam too)
Right I've ordered a return of my phone and have 30 days to send it back what alternatives do I have? Really like the SONY if it wasn't overheating I'd love it. Is there a solution to it? Cooler anything?
The things I like about the phone are:
*shape and overall feel in hand
*Cameras are ok don't really see if they great quality or not will still use my a6500 camera.
*Like the fact that can use sd card
*Love finger print reader in power button and seperate camera button
*like the fact that there's no rounded edges - hate them in my Samsung Note
I blame my problems with overheating by poorly made apps not the phone itself and not sure changing the phone will change it.
What are the options should I consider? Samsung S21 Ultra ? iPhone 12,13?
I'm a SONY fan and had many if their phones and that's why I'm looking for a solution otherwise would send it back straight away...
Can anyone help me with my problem?
Many thanks
Bart
Unfortunately greedy sony didn't provide any cooling solution to mark 3... Check disassembly videos, there is no any cooling solution at all, like you will find in asus - small vapor chamber etc. Literally nothing!
They knew snap 888 is overheating. They must have tested this device before releasing it, isn't it?
But no, still didn't apply any cooling solution. And that's a big shame and huge problem of this device.
Not sure if qualcomm provide any updated drivers to assess this problem or not. Or if sony will try to fix it. So far they did nothing and still it overheats. Mine too and you are right by saying that on 3G/5G it is hotter than on wifi.
I wonder how they can market battery as capable and better for 3 years with such hot device. Temperature of course has huge negative impact on battery longevity.
Sad but true
I'm quite shocked! Thanks for the info about disassembly videos...
I'm thinking if getting a cooler which you attach to the body.
What I forgot to mention that cameras itself (the lenses) don't get that hot is the area under them and closer to the centre. So must be processor and lack of cooling system.
Not sure what to do...
We have a hot weather now so I will test it intensively (if I was a Sony tester I'd never allow for the phone to be released like this).
Heating problems is why I keep saying that for any SOC/CPU/GPU manufacturer to keep upping the speeds of these things is STUPID! I can virtually guarantee that from now on every new CPU produced by all OEM's is going to overheat! Have you ever walked into a data center, with hundreds of servers running? You have to wear ear protection because the roar of all the internal cooling fans is deafening!
So then "we" attempt to put similar CPU's inside a device the size of a small remote control WITHOUT a fan and wonder why it overheats? There are only so many ways to keep the phone(s) cool. Use them while frozen solid in a block of ice, or better yet, stop running so many CPU/GPU intensive apps all at the same time. It's simple thermodynamics at work here. The more you have running at the same time, the harder the SOC needs to work, the hotter it is going to run. Another solution, that is literally unacceptable to most people, is to code in a lowering of the speed of the SOC. If this needs to be done then it becomes very clear that building a new, faster SOC every year is STUPID!
One more thing... I've heard that Xperia 1III is capable of powering the phone directly without battery charging to lower the heat...Does anyone know how do I turn this future on?
vanderbart said:
One more thing... I've heard that Xperia 1III is capable of powering the phone directly without battery charging to lower the heat...Does anyone know how do I turn this future on?
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This is applicable with the game enhancer. You can add some apps there and when you open it, you can enable HS power control. Also sony just release a new firmware that answer you with this issue.. you can check my video
vanderbart said:
One more thing... I've heard that Xperia 1III is capable of powering the phone directly without battery charging to lower the heat...Does anyone know how do I turn this future on?
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Have to sit at the outlet all the time? or how will this happen?
spine6 said:
This is applicable with the game enhancer. You can add some apps there and when you open it, you can enable HS power control. Also sony just release a new firmware that answer you with this issue.. you can check my video
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Thanks a lot , tomorrow I will be testing - doing long live stream on YouTube using Streamlabs, I always keep my phone under charger as I drive HGV sometimes for 3-4hrs non stop so battery would die.
It also going to be hot day here in UK and having the phone close to windscreen won't help - I know I shouldn't complain about overheating in such circumstances but my phone overheats even when taking photos although I have a feeling that after last system update its looking better , also as I mentioned before switching off object tracking has improved how smooth camera works using Streamlabs and Prism.
I'm considering buying a cooler for my phone too.
I will post my report tomorrow of how it went.
Many thanks
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Have to sit at the outlet all the time? or how will this happen?
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I found the future now in Game Enhancer app, you can power it directly. Not sure how it will perform yet. Tomorrow will send my report.
I often run streaming app in the background and not sure if Game Enhancer will work that way. I run nav app (Sygic Truck).
Heat problem has gone down significantly for me after the latest update yesterday. Usually the phone got really warm even with me just browsing using Chrome or going through Facebook. Now even when playing ROK or Mobile Legends it doesn't get that warm.

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