Anandtech mentions it is LTE-A Category 12 (600 Mbps)
Some sites mention it is Category 6 (300 Mbps)
So what is it exactly?
With the new Non-HLOS.bin shipped with 17 S, there ist no cat 6 LTE , only 150 Mbit cat 4. The + sign at 4G sign doesnt appear
So should I go back to Indian 16S ? I am aware Indian 17S or 18S is on the verge of getting officially released. I prefer the Chinese 17S because battery is absolutely brilliant after removing the bloat. Indian 16S has horrible battery and standby time.
How to check the LTE-A ? I'm on CN 16s, in Malaysia (CA Band_3_7).
Whenever my phone show 4G+, then phone signal will drop for total no signal, can't call or data (Searching mode)
yweel said:
How to check the LTE-A ? I'm on CN 16s, in Malaysia (CA Band_3_7).
Whenever my phone show 4G+, then phone signal will drop for total no signal, can't call or data (Searching mode)
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CN 16s and older ROMS are worthless for LTE. Try with Indian 16S.
sanke1 said:
CN 16s and older ROMS are worthless for LTE. Try with Indian 16S.
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Is 4g+ running on the indian rom ?r
schafxp said:
Is 4g+ running on the indian rom ?r
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Cannot tell as my operator is going to start CA soon in my area. People are saying that Indian 16S supports CA while Chinese 17S and below do not support CA.
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In my case "LTE +" icon appeared.
I live in Japan and I use Y!mobile.
My device's ROM is "Resurrection Remix OS".
sryu120 said:
In my case "LTE +" icon appeared.
I live in Japan and I use Y!mobile.
My device's ROM is "Resurrection Remix OS".
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If you get a chance please post your modem version. Thanks.
Snapdragon 820 has X12 modem (category 12 LTE up to 600 Mbps). I have had 4G+ for ages (in Japan on OCN Mobile One, an MNVO on the docomo network). However, as it is an oversubscribed MNVO my speeds are never great and even when getting a CA (4G+) signal they don't really change. My current firmware baseband version is as per this screenshot:
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Snapdragon 820 has X12 modem (category 12 LTE up to 600 Mbps).
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Unfortunately even on the same base chipset some of the radio params are up to the OEM, depending on what band combinations LE have programmed CA may work with some networks and not with others (eg OCN might be using 20Mhz x2 in 800Mhz while ThreeUK might be using 1x 15Mhz on 1800Mhz and 1x 15Mhz in 800Mhz).
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Unfortunately even on the same base chipset some of the radio params are up to the OEM, depending on what band combinations LE have programmed CA may work with some networks and not with others (eg OCN might be using 20Mhz x2 in 800Mhz while ThreeUK might be using 1x 15Mhz on 1800Mhz and 1x 15Mhz in 800Mhz).
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Yes, obviously availability of CA depends on carriers and on the LTE bands available to the device. Not all bands are turned on for our device so some people some places are going to be SOL. In the case of OCN the carrier aggregation is probably working with bands 1 & 3 I guess (the other bands OCN use are 19 & 21, which are not available on the LeMax 2).
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Yes, obviously availability of CA depends on carriers and on the LTE bands available to the device. Not all bands are turned on for our device so some people some places are going to be SOL. In the case of OCN the carrier aggregation is probably working with bands 1 & 3 I guess (the other bands OCN use are 19 & 21, which are not available on the LeMax 2).
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Ok so far then:
272-05 Three Ireland B3, B20, B8 Not Working
272-01 Vodafone Ireland B3, B20, B8 Not Working
440-10 OCN Japan (NTT) B1, B3, B19, B21 Working
Probably should just google what bands CN Mobile use for CA, that'll be the only thing LeEco will bother to implement in the baseband.
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Ok so far then:
272-05 Three Ireland B3, B20, B8 Not Working
272-01 Vodafone Ireland B3, B20, B8 Not Working
440-10 OCN Japan (NTT) B1, B3, B19, B21 Working
Probably should just google what bands CN Mobile use for CA, that'll be the only thing LeEco will bother to implement in the baseband.
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CA is strange. My friend has a Moto Z Play he bought direct from Motorola Japan. He is using OCN, same as me. His Z Play has the same available OCN LTE bands as my LeMax 2 (B1 & B3) and Motorola say it is CA compatible, but while I get 4G+, he doesn't. And another friend has a Japanese version ASUS Zenfone 3 and he gets 4G+ on another MNVO using same docomo network with B1 & B3. So it seems to be a bit of a lottery depending on your device & your region & carrier.
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CA is strange. My friend has a Moto Z Play he bought direct from Motorola Japan. He is using OCN, same as me. His Z Play has the same available OCN LTE bands as my LeMax 2 (B1 & B3) and Motorola say it is CA compatible, but while I get 4G+, he doesn't. And another friend has a Japanese version ASUS Zenfone 3 and he gets 4G+ on another MNVO using same docomo network with B1 & B3. So it seems to be a bit of a lottery depending on your device & your region & carrier.
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Compatibility isnt straightforward as its also dependent on resource blocks or RBs. Some radios can handle CA 2x 2x20Mhz and some might only manage 2x 2x10Mhz. Thats why reading the RRC messages between tower and handset is useful as OEMs dont release the full config that their UEs broadcast.
Snapdragon 820 aggregates 3 frequencies (3CC). I never managed to force him to do it, but 2 can (2ca).
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Dear all,
good afternoon.
I'm here to know if someone knows if it's possible to use my smartphone with band 7 LTE (2600) FDD. As far as I know this version only supports band 3 LTE (1800) but the European version has support for it. Right?
Do you know if putting the European ROM can solve this? Or there is a hardware limitation of the Chinese version?
Thanks guys, appreciate your help.
Take care,
Rui
2600MHz is supported by EU Honor7. It is conditioned by structure therefore you can't just replace the system of Chinese model with EU and have it.
I got the dual sim chinese Honor 7 and it supports FDD 1800-2100 .
I don't know why i can use 4g since my carrier uses 800-2600...
cleyt64 said:
I got the dual sim chinese Honor 7 and it supports FDD 1800-2100 .
I don't know why i can use 4g since my carrier uses 800-2600...
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Which carrier? Available information shows that almost all providers cover 2600MHz LTE. Exception is Nextel, which runs on 1800MHz, which is supported by Chinese H7. And there is absolutely no information on LTE 800MHz in Brasil.
piskr said:
Which carrier? Available information shows that almost all providers cover 2600MHz LTE. Exception is Nextel, which runs on 1800MHz, which is supported by Chinese H7. And there is absolutely no information on LTE 800MHz in Brasil.
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My carrier here in France is SFR .
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My carrier here in France is SFR .
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Then this is a totally new information. If you have the Chinese Honor 7 and LTE on SFR, it should indeed support either 800 or 2600MHz.
It's not recognizable from any known specifications though. And having been in Austria I can definitely confirm that my phone doesn't work on LTE 2600.
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Then this is a totally new information. If you have the Chinese Honor 7 and LTE on SFR, it should indeed support either 800 or 2600MHz.
It's not recognizable from any known specifications though. And having been in Austria I can definitely confirm that my phone doesn't work on LTE 2600.
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Mine doesn't work at 2600 FDD LTE either. Unfortunately I'm using Oi's carrier in Brazil without 1800 FDD LTE support. Yet....
Does the Redmi Note 3 Snapdragon version support the 850mHz gsm band? I have found contradictory information. Where I live in rural Costa Rica my phone does sometimes fall back to 2G and my provider uses 850mHz.
Thanks.
induna said:
Does the Redmi Note 3 Snapdragon version support the 850mHz gsm band? I have found contradictory information. Where I live in rural Costa Rica my phone does sometimes fall back to 2G and my provider uses 850mHz.
Thanks.
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You should have no problems using Snapdragon version of Redmi Note 3 Pro.
It should work for 2G. 3G, and 4G LTE in your country for any phone carriers there except for Tuyo movil, 4G LTE bands/ frequencies isn't supported for that carrier, although rest is fine.
Will the dualsim model also have LTE cat.16 (1gbps) modem suitable for European networks? Or it will only be suitable for Asian networks who mainly use intraband aggregation (4g+)?
Europe and Asia use same methods for carrier aggregation, just a bit different LTE bands are used.
Bands and Carrier aggregation support is same for dual sim and single sim version. Difference comes from that the Single sim version has 4x4MIMO antenna support, while Dual sim version has only 2x2MIMO support.
4x4MIMO antenna is needed to achieve that LTE Cat16 1Gbps speeds.
4x4MIMO antenna support from the telekom side in Europe is actually quite poor, as the population density is low to drive that 4x Antenna adoption.
4x4MIMO usage in Asian telecoms networks is actually quite high, due to higher population density.
So in summary, i would recommend definitely to get the Single sim version of XZ1 if you life in Asia as you would get much better LTE speeds out of it.
While the Single sim version would be preferred device for Europe also, you would be still okay to keep using Dual sim version for couple of years.
You can check out which lte carrier aggregation combinations XZ1 G8341 supports here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Itt7bKftWTQtKHs76-pRT5H1KEBYSoI1kdqeGjJpWMU/edit#gid=0
Let me know if your country is missing(check country code from Lists sheet).
Network code is 202-01.
I m between to choose xz1 or xzp (single versions both), I definately need 4x4mimo, my carrier will launch it within few months.
Ca combinations for both devices are almost identical for my network but in total +102 combinations more for xz1.
Will xzp offer same ca combinations in the future (maybe with baseband update)? Or 3gpp release version of each device is one-off?
Xzp dual is also 2x2mimo?
I don't think that XZ Premium will get any more bands support or extra CA combinations that are in XZ1 via baseband update. The new bands and CA in XZ1 are more useful in North American and Asian markets anyway.
You will be in a good situation in Greece Cosmote network with both phones. VoLTE/VoWIFI support for both and decent CA support when in home and traveling abroad.
Personally i would go with XZ1 as it fits in hand much better than XZ Premium. I have "old" XZ and XZ Premium myself, XZ is still the main phone for me.
At the moment single xzp is sold cheaper than xz1.
Also I have a doubt about xz1 battery because I mainly use cellular data network rather than WiFi.
Can my network in the future be upgraded in Sony's ca combination list? Offer more ca combinations/change category? For e.g. they say (network) they may support 7+7+3 60mhz in the near future.
Has xz1 activated 256-Qam for EU region? xzp has.
*I'm a fanatic cellmapper user.
XZ1 and XZ Premium batteries will balance out i think. XZ Premium has bigger battery, but much bigger screen to feed.
The spectrum in Greece for B7,B3,B20 is already pretty well divided, all B7 and B3 and B20 is allocated to providers.
I have made small comparison table just for you. Cosmote Greece and XZ1 vs XZp https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g5KRgOimFopK3dpBd-ajJs6QyA5LH8WDrlqrDSEgqeY/edit?usp=sharing
If operators want more CA combination support in Sony phones, then they need request/pay Sony to do that. Depends if operator plans to use those CA combinations in their network.
XZ1 and XZP both have exact same operator specific configuration file. If you say that XZp has 256QAM then i am pretty sure XZ1 will have that also.
Looking at the hardware capability of both phones and current LTE spectrum holdings of Cosmote Greece, i would see following currently missing CA combinations possible in their network.
38A-7A-3AA-0 (60Mhz total)
38A-20A-3AA-0
38A-20AA-7A-0 (XZ1 only)
38A-20AA-0
B38 20mhz is bought but not used as of today.
Also cosmote has bought a second 10mhz b7 spectrum, but is also not used as of today. Today 10mhz b20, 20mhz b3 and 20mhz b7 is used for 500mbps max using 256qam.When 4x4mimo is launched will possibly upgrade to 900mbps max. using 4x4 on b3 and b7.
Has any network worldwide done 4x4 mimo on b20 (800mhz)?
*this year cosmote is allocating some b8 900mhz from gsm to umts.
4x4 MIMO on 800Mhz(or any other low band) is not possibly on device side, due to physical limitations.
You are welcome to discuss networks and cellmapper in the Telegram chat https://t.me/cellmapper
4x4mimo on b1 2100mhz is supported on xzp and xz1?
My network may allocated it in the far future from umts to LTE.
38A-20AA-7A-0 is supported by xz1 but not from xzp?
Personally i have confirmed 4x4MIMO on "old" XZ B3 B7 B38 - no B1. XZ Premium has been indirectly confirmed to have 4x4MIMO support on B1,B3,B7(no info on B38 or others). I am confident that XZ1 willl match 4x4MIMO support on those bands and probably add support for US bands as well.
Is it sure that dual xz1 g8342 is only 2x2mimo?
Why new ca combinations (for eg those supported from xz1) cant be added to xpz? Its still a flagship.
I am not 100% sure that G8342 is not 4x4MIMO and only 2x2MIMO, but the 2nd sim capability is not "free" and has to come from expense of some cellular(antenna) capability.
Thats why dual sim op3(x12 modem) was only 2CA, Op5(x16 modem) is only 3CA. Also all the Gigabit LTE demos are done using single sim XZp.
Based on these previous information, i have no confidence to recommend dual sim version as 4x4MIMO device.
Anyway you get much better firmware support for single sim version.
It's possible that XZ Premium may get additional CA combinations support, but as it probably requires some kind of certification(money) then i would not hold my breath for that to happen.
No guarantees.
Ok but g8342 dual is advertised as cat.16 only in one sim, so i suppose its 4x4mimo capable. But we need to clarify this.
Has Sony done it before in another device? (To add some ca combinations at a later time).
Kirin 970 soc with 4x4mimo on 3carriers (cat.18) is already out.
Sony added CA combinations using B32(first available to XZs) to XZ, but the band support itself was already there. So a pretty minor addition.
We need root with DRM fix on XZ Premium / XZ1 / XZ1 Compact then we can confirm 4x4MIMO/256QAM support with app Network Signal Guru.
Come and discuss Kirin soc and other stuff in Telegram chat https://t.me/cellmapper Easier than posting here
Sony just started supporting dual versions of both xpz and xz1 for the 1st European country, France.
Thailand 3CA support
Does this line means Thailand will have 40-40-40 support? Does it also mean it will have 256QAM/4X4 MIMO when doing 3CA on band 40 as well?
40C-3AA-0
I will be very interested if it can also do 1-3-8 + 256QAM/4X4 MIMO.
VeixES said:
Europe and Asia use same methods for carrier aggregation, just a bit different LTE bands are used.
Bands and Carrier aggregation support is same for dual sim and single sim version. Difference comes from that the Single sim version has 4x4MIMO antenna support, while Dual sim version has only 2x2MIMO support.
4x4MIMO antenna is needed to achieve that LTE Cat16 1Gbps speeds.
4x4MIMO antenna support from the telekom side in Europe is actually quite poor, as the population density is low to drive that 4x Antenna adoption.
4x4MIMO usage in Asian telecoms networks is actually quite high, due to higher population density.
So in summary, i would recommend definitely to get the Single sim version of XZ1 if you life in Asia as you would get much better LTE speeds out of it.
While the Single sim version would be preferred device for Europe also, you would be still okay to keep using Dual sim version for couple of years.
You can check out which lte carrier aggregation combinations XZ1 G8341 supports here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Itt7bKftWTQtKHs76-pRT5H1KEBYSoI1kdqeGjJpWMU/edit#gid=0
Let me know if your country is missing(check country code from Lists sheet).
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XZ1 Dual G8342 and XZ1 (G8341) both have most CA combinations(136 variations) available in Thailand compared to any country.
Thailand has support for 40C-1 and 40C-1, which are contigious B40 (20+20Mhz). 40D would be the 20+20+20 possibility which it does not have enabled.
It does have support for 40C-3AA and 40C-28AA, both 3CA when B3 and B28 are primary band(second A denotes the primary band).
You can check CA definitions here http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_ca_band.php
While the single sim and dual sim model share exact same CA combinations capability, there are some differences between the 2 devices.
XZ1 Dual G8342 has Customized TH firmware available, meaning that you get 256QAM and VoLTE etc stuff for dtac,ais and truemove. 4x4 MIMO support unconfirmed.
XZ1 (G8341) has no Customized TH firmware, meaning that you will not get any VoLTE(ordinary 3g calling instead), no 256QAM. But 4x4 MIMO is known to be available.
4x4 MIMO on XZ1 (G8341) is supported on bands B1,B3,B7,B38 (North American B2,B4,B66 yet to confirm).
XZ1 Dual G8342 will get you 1-3-8 + 256QAM, but 4x4MIMO on bands B1 and B3 is unknown because have not seen anyone confirm 4x4MIMO on dualsim version yet.
Thanks!!
I'm looking for phones with 40-40-40. However, there doesn't seem to be any of them around.
VeixES said:
XZ1 Dual G8342 and XZ1 (G8341) both have most CA combinations(136 variations) available in Thailand compared to any country.
Thailand has support for 40C-1 and 40C-1, which are contigious B40 (20+20Mhz). 40D would be the 20+20+20 possibility which it does not have enabled.
It does have support for 40C-3AA and 40C-28AA, both 3CA when B3 and B28 are primary band(second A denotes the primary band).
You can check CA definitions here http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_ca_band.php
While the single sim and dual sim model share exact same CA combinations capability, there are some differences between the 2 devices.
XZ1 Dual G8342 has Customized TH firmware available, meaning that you get 256QAM and VoLTE etc stuff for dtac,ais and truemove. 4x4 MIMO support unconfirmed.
XZ1 (G8341) has no Customized TH firmware, meaning that you will not get any VoLTE(ordinary 3g calling instead), no 256QAM. But 4x4 MIMO is known to be available.
4x4 MIMO on XZ1 (G8341) is supported on bands B1,B3,B7,B38 (North American B2,B4,B66 yet to confirm).
XZ1 Dual G8342 will get you 1-3-8 + 256QAM, but 4x4MIMO on bands B1 and B3 is unknown because have not seen anyone confirm 4x4MIMO on dualsim version yet.
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Thinking about buying this phone. Can you guys tell me the common issues with this phone? The one I'm most concerned with is the headphone jack, does it produce hiss sound at low volume? I ask this since I came across a lot of phones with that issue. Thanks in advance
linkzex said:
Thinking about buying this phone. Can you guys tell me the common issues with this phone? The one I'm most concerned with is the headphone jack, does it produce hiss sound at low volume? I ask this since I came across a lot of phones with that issue. Thanks in advance
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I personally don't experience hissing on this phone. As far as issues, it involves the OTA from Vendor Roms which bricked some devices. You can check your ROM version and cross reference it with the ones on the Mi website to make sure. Aside from that, I don't see anything wrong with the phone.
Hi, I'm also considering to buy Note 5 and I just wanted to say that I don't have that problem with Note 4, it doesn't mean much since I don't use N5 but I think there is very very little chance for hissing issue in any device produced in 2017.
Hi just want to ask about redmi note 5 plus.
1. How could i know if it is a international variant
2. Any one show me an SS of something like model name or variant for international variant so that i have a clue when buying it
LabLab...28 said:
Hi just want to ask about redmi note 5 plus.
1. How could i know if it is a international variant
2. Any one show me an SS of something like model name or variant for international variant so that i have a clue when buying it
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Did you manage to get the info? Please share if you did.
Is the india model the international variant?
Thanks
antares* said:
Did you manage to get the info? Please share if you did.
Is the india model the international variant?
Thanks
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No one is concern bro. ;(
Hello, I have Redmi 5 in Pakistan. It is a international variant. Screenshots are attached. Hope they help. Thanks.
LabLab...28 said:
Hi just want to ask about redmi note 5 plus.
1. How could i know if it is a international variant
2. Any one show me an SS of something like model name or variant for international variant so that i have a clue when buying it
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Hi, when I purchased seller offer also a global variant for 40 usd more.
Many people confuse about global device version and global firmware that it´s not the same.
You just have to pay special attention to the bands that is enabled, the global version has more bands enabled, by i.e my version that is a non global doesn´t have LTE bands 2 (1900) nor 4 (1700/2100) it mean that in my country it can´t work on 4G (of course I bought it so it is cause I didn´t need). This is the main difference.
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Hi, when I purchased seller offer also a global variant for 40 usd more.
Many people confuse about global device version and global firmware that it´s not the same.
You just have to pay special attention to the bands that is enabled, the global version has more bands enabled, by i.e my version that is a non global doesn´t have LTE bands 2 (1900) nor 4 (1700/2100) it mean that in my country it can´t work on 4G (of course I bought it so it is cause I didn´t need). This is the main difference.
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I really don't understand because my device is working with the B4 (1700) band but it is not a real Global version. :silly:
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I really don't understand because my device is working with the B4 (1700) band but it is not a real Global version. :silly:
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Why do you say that has B4? Where you saw it?
Look at this info, just 4G apparted, this is a non-global version from a chinese seller you can find these specs;
4G FDD LTE B5:850 /B8:900 /B3:1800 /B1:2100 /B7:2600
TD LTE B38:2600 /B39:1900/ B40:2300 /B41:2500 MHz
TD or TDD is the LTE FOR China, look up FDD LTE bands.
And this is a Global version, seller usually put in a red highlighted the bands added
4G: FDD LTE B5:850 /B8:900 /B3:1800 /B1:2100 /B7:2600 /B4:1700 /B20:800;
TD LTE B38:2600 / B40:2300
Differences here are bands 4 for Latin America and guess some regions of Asia and maybe others and band 20 for Spain.
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Why do you say that has B4? Where you saw it?
Look at this info, just 4G apparted, this is a non-global version from a chinese seller you can find these specs;
4G FDD LTE B5:850 /B8:900 /B3:1800 /B1:2100 /B7:2600
TD LTE B38:2600 /B39:1900/ B40:2300 /B41:2500 MHz
TD or TDD is the LTE FOR China, look up FDD LTE bands.
And this is a Global version, seller usually put in a red highlighted the bands added
4G: FDD LTE B5:850 /B8:900 /B3:1800 /B1:2100 /B7:2600 /B4:1700 /B20:800;
TD LTE B38:2600 / B40:2300
Differences here are bands 4 for Latin America and guess some regions of Asia and maybe others and band 20 for Spain.
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I mentioned that because my 4g shouldn't work but it appears in the notification bar.
I bought the "Official Global ROM" (I saw it is not the Global Version)
FDD LTE B3:1800/B1:2100/B7:2600/B5:850/B8:900MHz
TDD LTE B34:2100/B38:2600/B39:1900/B40:2300/B41:2500MHz
This confuses me :silly:
Abnoiesu said:
I mentioned that because my 4g shouldn't work but it appears in the notification bar.
I bought the "Official Global ROM" (I saw it is not the Global Version)
FDD LTE B3:1800/B1:2100/B7:2600/B5:850/B8:900MHz
TDD LTE B34:2100/B38:2600/B39:1900/B40:2300/B41:2500MHz
This confuses me :silly:
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No, if your device hasn´t these two added bands definitely it´s not a global version (global rom concept mean nothing for this) is a hardware limitation although can work within 4G depending on your company carrier in some of the 5 frequencies enabled.
I have a Chinese RN5, it has loads of bands dudes. The chance of it not working on your network are slim.
As for the headphones dilemma, they do not hiss or produce low volume. Altho if you pair them with Xiaomi Pro HD which have a high impedance then you will notice a lack in volume. That can be easily fixed with Dolby Atmos the Magisk Module.
Hello,
I'm trying to acquire a lg v60 but it seems that the european version is impossible to get.
Are the others versions working in Europe ?
Here are the frequencies in France that I need : 800 MHz (B20), 1 800 MHz (B3), 2 100 MHz (B1), 2 600 MHz (B7)
Will a V600TM be fine or not ? I don't mind the 5g, only 4g.
Thanks.
tutov said:
Hello,
I'm trying to acquire a lg v60 but it seems that the european version is impossible to get.
Are the others versions working in Europe ?
Here are the frequencies in France that I need : 800 MHz (B20), 1 800 MHz (B3), 2 100 MHz (B1), 2 600 MHz (B7)
Will a V600TM be fine or not ? I don't mind the 5g, only 4g.
Thanks.
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you can take one TM or ATT, TM is a bit more sensitive to bugs and has the possibility of OTA upgrade, but it won't be for long because the support ends. ATT is somewhat more resistant to bugs, but there is no OTA, but again it does not matter because we have all backups up to the latest version of frrmware.
JigsawMobile said:
you can take one TM or ATT, TM is a bit more sensitive to bugs and has the possibility of OTA upgrade, but it won't be for long because the support ends. ATT is somewhat more resistant to bugs, but there is no OTA, but again it does not matter because we have all backups up to the latest version of frrmware.
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If I buy one, I'll plan to keep it for a long time but I don't know if we the updates are available in Europe.
Frequencies bands are also important, there is no point that I buy the phone if I can't use it with my network operator.
Thanks for the infos, if the frequencies can work, I'll take the TM.
tutov said:
If I buy one, I'll plan to keep it for a long time but I don't know if we the updates are available in Europe.
Frequencies bands are also important, there is no point that I buy the phone if I can't use it with my network operator.
Thanks for the infos, if the frequencies can work, I'll take the TM.
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Yes, TM 95% will work in eu have some frequencies like in UK.
I am usin ATT and no problem's i croosflash to EA rom.
TM support OTA updates outside US but updates will not work long time because LG stop software support.
About 5G you can not used 5G but i think you can like ither guys using it after croisflash.
JigsawMobile said:
Yes, TM 95% will work in eu have some frequencies like in UK.
I am usin ATT and no problem's i croosflash to EA rom.
TM support OTA updates outside US but updates will not work long time because LG stop software support.
About 5G you can not used 5G but i think you can like ither guys using it after croisflash.
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Does it mean that if I crossflash to the ea rom I will be able to use all frequencies (I live in France) ?
As long as I have 4g it's fine.
tutov said:
Does it mean that if I crossflash to the ea rom I will be able to use all frequencies (I live in France) ?
As long as I have 4g it's fine.
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Well yes and no, i did not having experience about it other guys says it can but i think yes with additional customization.
However buy one TM or ATT.
I have att and all works but in my country i do not have 5g so i can not test. Other guy who used my patched modem says they having 5g.
JigsawMobile said:
Well yes and no, i did not having experience about it other guys says it can but i think yes with additional customization.
However buy one TM or ATT.
I have att and all works but in my country i do not have 5g so i can not test. Other guy who used my patched modem says they having 5g.
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Are phones with 5g logo instead of the V60 thinq logo in the back like this one https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-lmv600vmwavrzcw-verizon-v60-thinq-5g# only verizon version ?
tutov said:
Are phones with 5g logo instead of the V60 thinq logo in the back like this one https://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-lmv600vmwavrzcw-verizon-v60-thinq-5g# only verizon version ?
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If i understand you question,
Yes all phones 5g but i am not sure will all phones 5g logo
JigsawMobile said:
If i understand you question,
Yes all phones 5g but i am not sure will all phones 5g logo
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Phones with the 5g logo in the back (like the one in the link above) are v600vm model only ?
No 5g
tutov said:
Phones with the 5g logo in the back (like the one in the link above) are v600vm model only ?
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No 5g logo its only when booting device. I have att and no 5g logo on the back side
JigsawMobile said:
No 5g
No 5g logo its only when zurning on device6. I jave att and no 5g logo on tje back side
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It seems weird, some sellers are selling lg v60 but the back side of the phone has 5g logo instead of 60thinq logo...
The T-Mobile version will work on all frequencies in Europe. I'm in the UK and all 4g bands work. Except 5G
JigsawMobile said:
Yes, TM 95% will work in eu have some frequencies like in UK.
I am usin ATT and no problem's i croosflash to EA rom.
TM support OTA updates outside US but updates will not work long time because LG stop software support.
About 5G you can not used 5G but i think you can like ither guys using it after croisflash.
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Is it really like that, that TM will work in Europe? I checked the kimovil.com page and according to this website I will not have support for any frequency in Czech Republic (just 2G). They say that B1 (2100), B3 (1800), B7 (2600) and B20 (800) are not supported. According to the website the ATT version will support all 4 bands of 4G, 3G, but no 2G (I don´t know if I need 2G, do you have any problems?). According to the website the Verizon version will support 3 bands out of 4 of 4G, 3G and 2G, so I guess the Verizon version would be the best.
I am using the Sprint version of LG V50 Thing 5G. It shows I have 5G, but kimovil.com says it does not support. I installed netmonster app to my phone and realized that the phone shows 5G but it does not have any 5G, just 4G. That is a funny thing too.
gothaj said:
Is it really like that, that TM will work in Europe? I checked the kimovil.com page and according to this website I will not have support for any frequency in Czech Republic (just 2G). They say that B1 (2100), B3 (1800), B7 (2600) and B20 (800) are not supported. According to the website the ATT version will support all 4 bands of 4G, 3G, but no 2G (I don´t know if I need 2G, do you have any problems?). According to the website the Verizon version will support 3 bands out of 4 of 4G, 3G and 2G, so I guess the Verizon version would be the best.
I am using the Sprint version of LG V50 Thing 5G. It shows I have 5G, but kimovil.com says it does not support. I installed netmonster app to my phone and realized that the phone shows 5G but it does not have any 5G, just 4G. That is a funny thing too.
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No problem it support 2G in all countries.
I think only 5g wont work without modifications different.
Kimovil.co. is not right site to see bands, in most of sites shown bands without roaming. Eg. you can see for att officiall site there are roaming bands but on the site no roaming bands.