Hello All,
This may sound like a totally noob question.
I have my Galaxy S2 updated earlier to HyperDroid 4.4.7 base only with no surgeons or themes. I was liking the original like touch and feel with the added functionalites. I did install numerous applications from the market place according to my needs.
Now since the HyperDroid 5.0.0 is available , I used the phone ->-Settings->Hyperdroid Parts menu to download and apply the upgrade to the phone.
The upgrade went fine however I have lost all my custom phone settings and my installed applications. The phone starts now and asks for the google account to login.
So is there a way I can recover all phone settings and the installed applications only. Of course this should exclude the hyperdroid base which is updated to a newer version.
I guess the upgrade process did a backup automatically before applying, when booting in the CWM recovery mode. But I am not sure how to restore this backup, where is it saved by default and by restoring this backup would it restore the applications and settings only or it would also practically downgrade the base ROM to the earlier version since the backup was taken before applying the upgrade.
Also suggest what should be a standard and safe way to apply upgrade in order to ensure all phone settings, applications and user files (docs/pictures/music) would stay the same or can be restored after an upgrade.
Thanks for clarifying my confusion once and for all for all future upgrades.
Cheers.
Titanium Backup should cover all of that
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HyperEscape said:
Hello All,
This may sound like a totally noob question.
I have my Galaxy S2 updated earlier to HyperDroid 4.4.7 base only with no surgeons or themes. I was liking the original like touch and feel with the added functionalites. I did install numerous applications from the market place according to my needs.
Now since the HyperDroid 5.0.0 is available , I used the phone ->-Settings->Hyperdroid Parts menu to download and apply the upgrade to the phone.
The upgrade went fine however I have lost all my custom phone settings and my installed applications. The phone starts now and asks for the google account to login.
So is there a way I can recover all phone settings and the installed applications only. Of course this should exclude the hyperdroid base which is updated to a newer version.
If you had read the changelog provided, you would have seen it's a full wipe release. If you didn't back up your data before flashing the ROM, your data is gone.
I guess the upgrade process did a backup automatically before applying, when booting in the CWM recovery mode. But I am not sure how to restore this backup, where is it saved by default and by restoring this backup would it restore the applications and settings only or it would also practically downgrade the base ROM to the earlier version since the backup was taken before applying the upgrade.
No, a backup is not automatically made. The backup/restore is a feature of the recovery, you can manually create/restore backups. Installing hyperdroid 5.0.0 does not automatically create a backup.
Making a backup using this feature backs up your ROM completely, all your apps, settings etc including the base ROM. For example if you had a backup of your previous Hyperdroid 4.4.7 ROM and flashed Hyperdroid 5.0.0, restoring your backup would revert you to Hyperdroid 4.4.7
Also suggest what should be a standard and safe way to apply upgrade in order to ensure all phone settings, applications and user files (docs/pictures/music) would stay the same or can be restored after an upgrade.
Titanium backup should be able to backup and restore your settings and applications, user files shouldn't be touched with hyperdroid's full wipe so they should all still be there.
Thanks for clarifying my confusion once and for all for all future upgrades.
Cheers.
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Hi. I'm having issues with the battery life on my OPX and I would like to try some stuff. However, my OPX is my daily driver and i'd like to have real backups that can help me get back to business quickly if I make a mistake.
One such this is to try to turn off Google Services/Backup. However, how do I back up my app settings, then? How do people who go around testing ROMs and Kernels do it? Do they just blow away everything every time?
I'd also like to try other kernels, maybe even using a kernel manager, but I need root for that. After rooting, how can I update to the next OOS 3.x release? I'm on OOS 3.x, and for now I only want to be on OOS 3.x (no custom ROMs if I can avoid them), updating only when OnePlus releases a security update.
For backing up my phone apps instead of Google Services/Backup, I tried:
* MyBackup - will backup all APKs, but app-data will only be backed-up in rooted phones; it will also backup most of the things I also want and for what I'm already using it (SMS, MMS, Calendar events, Contacts, Home screen settings, etc.)
* Helium - will backup APKs and app-data, but only for half my apps; AFAIK, it won't back up the rest of the phone state, I'll have to keep using MyBackup for that.
Questions:
1) If I install TWRP and root with SuperSU, can I unroot? Can I then dirty-flash (for example) OOS 3.1.5 over 3.1.4 and re-root?
1.1) If I can't dirty-flash, how do I safely install an OOS upgrade on a phone with TWRP and root?
2) Will MyBackup backup and restore everything properly if I root?
3) Will Helium back up all apps if I root?
4) Would it be better to keep the stock recovery (booting temporarily TWRP from fastboot/adb just to install SuperSU) and then work with FlashFire? Does anyone use Flashfire with OPX?
This is a duplicate of a thread I created on the OP forums but it seems the official forums are as dead as OPs support for the OPX...
Thank you.
TiagoJSilva said:
Hi. I'm having issues with the battery life on my OPX and I would like to try some stuff. However, my OPX is my daily driver and i'd like to have real backups that can help me get back to business quickly if I make a mistake.
One such this is to try to turn off Google Services/Backup. However, how do I back up my app settings, then? How do people who go around testing ROMs and Kernels do it? Do they just blow away everything every time?
I'd also like to try other kernels, maybe even using a kernel manager, but I need root for that. After rooting, how can I update to the next OOS 3.x release? I'm on OOS 3.x, and for now I only want to be on OOS 3.x (no custom ROMs if I can avoid them), updating only when OnePlus releases a security update.
For backing up my phone apps instead of Google Services/Backup, I tried:
* MyBackup - will backup all APKs, but app-data will only be backed-up in rooted phones; it will also backup most of the things I also want and for what I'm already using it (SMS, MMS, Calendar events, Contacts, Home screen settings, etc.)
* Helium - will backup APKs and app-data, but only for half my apps; AFAIK, it won't back up the rest of the phone state, I'll have to keep using MyBackup for that.
Questions:
1) If I install TWRP and root with SuperSU, can I unroot? Can I then dirty-flash (for example) OOS 3.1.5 over 3.1.4 and re-root?
1.1) If I can't dirty-flash, how do I safely install an OOS upgrade on a phone with TWRP and root?
2) Will MyBackup backup and restore everything properly if I root?
3) Will Helium back up all apps if I root?
4) Would it be better to keep the stock recovery (booting temporarily TWRP from fastboot/adb just to install SuperSU) and then work with FlashFire? Does anyone use Flashfire with OPX?
This is a duplicate of a thread I created on the OP forums but it seems the official forums are as dead as OPs support for the OPX...
Thank you.
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Your best choice is magisk manager,install magisk and root with systemless root,follow their official thread for procedures, if u done everything properly, u ll hv root access and u ll not face any problem while getting sys updates.
Helium backup? I prefer titanium backup(requires root) it ll work properly
Another simple method,Take a full backup in twrp before playing with ur mobile,root it using twrp,install xposed watever, and when if opx get nxt update,u can install it manually from twrp..jst as simple and restore previously backedup data..
cva_kabil said:
Your best choice is magisk manager,install magisk and root with systemless root,follow their official thread for procedures, if u done everything properly, u ll hv root access and u ll not face any problem while getting sys updates.
Helium backup? I prefer titanium backup(requires root) it ll work properly
Another simple method,Take a full backup in twrp before playing with ur mobile,root it using twrp,install xposed watever, and when if opx get nxt update,u can install it manually from twrp..jst as simple and restore previously backedup data..
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OK, installed Magisk, rooted and tried again.
MyBackup failed twice to finish a backup, once it just reset while in the background, the other failed almost on the last app with "Not enough space" (SD Card still has 50GB+ available...)
Titanium Backup is refusing to backup to the SD card. When I try to select the SD card as a backup storage it won't allow me to create a new folder or select an existing folder. A rooted app refusing to write to the SD Card? Are you sh*tting me?
Now I have installed systemless Xposed for Magisk and ”Marshmallow SD fix" module. Apps still can't write to the SD card
Please can someone confirm I'm not the only one that is experiencing titanium backup restore issues..... Meaning not restoring anything, whether it's batch or individually.
This makes new rom flashing an absolute nightmare.
Now I am aware of the recent security updates by google where all apps require to be verified when being installed. A work around is disabling app verify and disabling internet connection. But this does not work for me. Now the only easy way (not so easy) is find all apps missing via titanium backup then selecting the view in market button, download and install the Play store way, then do a batch install of data only.
Anyone care to chime in?
wacko37 said:
Please can someone confirm I'm not the only one that is experiencing titanium backup restore issues..... Meaning not restoring anything, whether it's batch or individually.
This makes new rom flashing an absolute nightmare.
Now I am aware of the recent security updates by google where all apps require to be verified when being installed. A work around is disabling app verify and disabling internet connection. But this does not work for me. Now the only easy way (not so easy) is find all apps missing via titanium backup then selecting the view in market button, download and install the Play store way, then do a batch install of data only.
Anyone care to chime in?
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Yup same problems, no answers. Developer doesn't help you for crap. Just auto email back leading you to message board. Everytime I flash new rom titanium backup screws up.
It's been like this for few months. Regret buying app now.
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I haven't done a clean flash in quite a while, so I haven't had to restore anything. But I just tried restoring 2 apps that I no longer use and both were restored just fine by TiBu.
I'm not sure which rom you're on, stock or custom? I'm running Resurrection Remix 5.8.2 (Nougat) on H850 and like I said, no issues
I'm on Stock Nougat (rooted) and have no problems whatsoever with Titanium Backup and LG G5.
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DudemeisterAT said:
I'm on Stock Nougat (rooted) and have no problems whatsoever with Titanium Backup and LG G5.
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You are lucky sir
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Nimueh said:
I haven't done a clean flash in quite a while, so I haven't had to restore anything. But I just tried restoring 2 apps that I no longer use and both were restored just fine by TiBu.
I'm not sure which rom you're on, stock or custom? I'm running Resurrection Remix 5.8.2 (Nougat) on H850 and like I said, no issues
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I just flashed RR just to see. And I thought I was in the clear when 2 apps restored a no problem when selected manually. But that was short lived having still problems during batch restore. It's seems to be only certain apps not installing and then causes it to freeze. It's then a force stop of TB and start again, but it's just as quick to do it manually.
Have you tried backing up all apps then restoring them so no data is lost and test to see. Because if you go to update your rom etc. TB is a nightmare.
DudemeisterAT said:
I'm on Stock Nougat (rooted) and have no problems whatsoever with Titanium Backup and LG G5.
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I will try that... Only talk a few minutes.
wacko37 said:
I just flashed RR just to see. And I thought I was in the clear when 2 apps restored a no problem when selected manually. But that was short lived having still problems during batch restore. It's seems to be only certain apps not installing and then causes it to freeze. It's then a force stop of TB and start again, but it's just as quick to do it manually.
Have you tried backing up all apps then restoring them so no data is lost and test to see. Because if you go to update your rom etc. TB is a nightmare.
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I know I restored all my apps with TiBu when I made the switch from RR M to RR N last June and everything restored just fine. I've updated my rom countless times since then but I'm pretty sure I only made dirty flashes, meaning my apps didn't have to get restored.
When I tested it with those 2 apps yesterday it was a batch restore too ... but just to make sure I just backed up and batch restored 6 more apps without any issues. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't make a difference if I tried again with 16 or 60 apps, on MY phone it works. I don't know why you're having problems, but it works fine here
So I did some more trial and error with good success.
Now I know of all the issues with using an external card as a backup location for titanium. So I have already tried to move my old backups from the external card to the internal sdcard where titaniums default location is, but I had the same results.
So just as an other test I decided to remove all my old backups and start fresh so to speak. I kept the backup location at its default when titanium is newly installed which is on the sdcard and done a full backup.
Backup worked as expected, so I then decided to batch restore some apps and to my surprise they all restored as one would normally expect.
So I suspected there was some kind of corruption to my old backups so I had to test. I moved all my old backup into the new working location.
Titanium showed all the old backups and guess what.... They all restored without issues.
So my guessing is it needs to backup at least once to its folder after a new install before it can use it correctly.
But on my previous tests before doing the above it did backup some old apps from its default location on the sdcard.
Weird and makes no sense..... To me anyway.
wacko37 said:
So I did some more trial and error with good success.
Now I know of all the issues with using an external card as a backup location for titanium. So I have already tried to move my old backups from the external card to the internal sdcard where titaniums default location is, but I had the same results.
So just as an other test I decided to remove all my old backups and start fresh so to speak. I kept the backup location at its default when titanium is newly installed which is on the sdcard and done a full backup.
Backup worked as expected, so I then decided to batch restore some apps and to my surprise they all restored as one would normally expect.
So I suspected there was some kind of corruption to my old backups so I had to test. I moved all my old backup into the new working location.
Titanium showed all the old backups and guess what.... They all restored without issues.
So my guessing is it needs to backup at least once to its folder after a new install before it can use it correctly.
But on my previous tests before doing the above it did backup some old apps from its default location on the sdcard.
Weird and makes no sense..... To me anyway.
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Kinda sucks to use internal memory. They barely give any space with these things.
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Nick216ohio said:
Kinda sucks to use internal memory. They barely give any space with these things.
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My TiBu backups have always been on my external SD, so I can't confirm that. Except for 1 time on a Marshmallow rom I never had any problems creating or restoring backups from the external
Nick216ohio said:
Kinda sucks to use internal memory. They barely give any space with these things.
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I'm inferring from some posts here that there may be problems with restoring TB backups stored on an external SD card. Here is some advice from Titanium Track, copied and pasted from item #31 on their Troubleshooting page:
31. External SD Card problems...
There is an elegant way of giving TitaniumBackup write access to the external sdcard, without having to forfeit security.... Since the time of Android 4.3, Google uses a very clean security-solution by giving apps that request write access to external SD, permission only to their own folder – not to the entire card! In order to get TitaniumBackup to work without compromising security, you can simply create a folder on the external sdcard, using the following folder-structure: /storage/extSdCard/Android/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/
If you already have existing backups, move them with a file-explorer from their current place to: /storage/extSdCard/Android/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/ Lastly, go to the preferences of TitaniumBackup, choose “Backup folder location” and choose the above specified folder.
Finish.
I followed this GUIDE back in Marshmallow days and have never had any issues since then - had a friend do it yesterday and now it works for him too. Maybe try that
Nimueh said:
I followed this GUIDE back in Marshmallow days and have never had any issues since then - had a friend do it yesterday and now it works for him too. Maybe try that
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My problem has never been with writing to the external SD card (although it was some time ago)
This is definitely a TB issue. It can't seem to restore most of my apps that are not already installed. As soon as you install the app manually TB works perfectly.
My solution which I have just done today is backup via TB on old rom but also backup with super backup.
Then flash new rom, use Super Backup to install all the apps (works like TB used to, but does not seem to restore data) then use TB to restore all data.
Twice the work as normal but not as bad as manually doing each app via playstore.
Also worth mentioning Super backup folder is working flawlessly from the externalSD but for batch mode to work you must use the default folder assigned on the externalSD.
wacko37 said:
My problem has never been with writing to the external SD card (although it was some time ago)
This is definitely a TB issue. It can't seem to restore most of my apps that are not already installed. As soon as you install the app manually TB works perfectly.
My solution which I have just done today is backup via TB on old rom but also backup with super backup.
Then flash new rom, use Super Backup to install all the apps (works like TB used to, but does not seem to restore data) then use TB to restore all data.
Twice the work as normal but not as bad as manually doing each app via playstore.
Also worth mentioning Super backup folder is working flawlessly from the externalSD but for batch mode to work you must use the default folder assigned on the externalSD.
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I don't think it's a TiBu issue - if it was then everybody would have it. I know I don't, but no idea if it might be phone or rom related or what the problem is. I'm sorry I couldn't be of more help
wacko37 said:
Have you tried backing up all apps then restoring them so no data is lost and test to see. Because if you go to update your rom etc. TB is a nightmare.
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Ok, so I just did a clean flash of a different rom, then batch restored 64 apps that I backed up this morning. No issues at all, they restored fine and I've already used a few of them. Definitely no problems here :good:
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I don't think it's a TiBu issue - if it was then everybody would have it. I know I don't, but no idea if it might be phone or rom related or what the problem is. I'm sorry I couldn't be of more help
Ok, so I just did a clean flash of a different rom, then batch restored 64 apps that I backed up this morning. No issues at all, they restored fine and I've already used a few of them. Definitely no problems here :good:
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Thanks for going to the effort of doing a fresh install. Just out of curiosity what phone and rom are you using.
I'm using LG G5, have tried stock v20 which is android 7.0 with root, I tried FluenceUHD patch over the stock rom, all using SuperSU for root.
I also tried RR based on 7.1 with same result.
Also TB is on version 8.0.0
wacko37 said:
Thanks for going to the effort of doing a fresh install. Just out of curiosity what phone and rom are you using.
I'm using LG G5, have tried stock v20 which is android 7.0 with root, I tried FluenceUHD patch over the stock rom, all using SuperSU for root.
I also tried RR based on 7.1 with same result.
Also TB is on version 8.0.0
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LG G5 H850, currently running the new DU rom with SuperSU but usually RR, now with that crappy Magisk.
I don't know what to tell you, but after 64 restored apps today I can't find any fault with TiBu. Same version as you btw, 8.0.0
Fingers crossed that you'll find a solution
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Nimueh said:
LG G5 H850, currently running the new DU rom with SuperSU but usually RR, now with that crappy Magisk.
I don't know what to tell you, but after 64 restored apps today I can't find any fault with TiBu. Same version as you btw, 8.0.0
Fingers crossed that you'll find a solution
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I have one last question. What version of TWRP are you running
wacko37 said:
I have one last question. What version of TWRP are you running
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The latest, 3.1.0.0 - but it worked fine on the previous versions too
Interactive Mode Works !!!
wacko37 said:
Please can someone confirm I'm not the only one that is experiencing titanium backup restore issues..... Meaning not restoring anything, whether it's batch or individually.
This makes new rom flashing an absolute nightmare.
Now I am aware of the recent security updates by google where all apps require to be verified when being installed. A work around is disabling app verify and disabling internet connection. But this does not work for me. Now the only easy way (not so easy) is find all apps missing via titanium backup then selecting the view in market button, download and install the Play store way, then do a batch install of data only.
Anyone care to chime in?
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interactive mode in TB works for me.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75404884&postcount=2
Hi I have problem with my note 4x global and newest update. It updated during the night and everything is erased now. Like after full wipe. I had everything stock except I had twrp installed. What happens? Is it possible to recover it somehow?
Did you lost your photos, music, media or installed apps and other stuff?
Everything, photos and videos and apps and settings.
What I did was :
Unlock the bootloader
Flash twrp and lazy flasher
Make a backup in twrp
Flashed resurrection remix but I didn't like it so
I restored the backup
And everything was fine until the 8.2.10 update came and it couldn't update but then in the middle of the night it got updated and when the phone restarted nothing was there, all wiped, no data no apps
But doing a backup won't backup your internal storage.
Yes I know, I copied it to my laptop HDD, that's not the point though, not about backup because later everything was fine. That happens after automatic update.
Also miui seems to work worse now, slower.
So i run The latest miui. Rooted with magisk.
Some time ago i backup this rom. Installed a custom one. Didnt like it.
When i tried to restore The rom. My Phone data was envrypted. And no password worked. I tried every password i have ever had. So my whole internal memory was lost since i had to format everything.. I really dont want this to happen again..
How do you restore stuff without this happening?
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So i run The latest miui. Rooted with magisk.
Some time ago i backup this rom. Installed a custom one. Didnt like it.
When i tried to restore The rom. My Phone data was envrypted. And no password worked. I tried every password i have ever had. So my whole internal memory was lost since i had to format everything.. I really dont want this to happen again..
How do you restore stuff without this happening?
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It's not recommended to restore miui with twrp. There are two options how I would proceed:
1. Use Migrate app or Titanium backup. Flash rom, boot and than restore apps.
I always backup via Migrate app, it dumps everything in a zip as backup including call logs, sms, apps etc. That zip can be flashed via twrp.
2. Remove all passwords, lock screen fingerprint screen lock etc from MIUI, rom should not be encrypted and than backup via twrp which you can restore later. Though I personally wouldn't suggest this method.