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There is no reason that the d6708 should be in the Z3 area of XDA, other than to be a marker of mislabeling. From what I've gathered, the Z3v has a chipset similar to the Z2, but with the camera and power of a Z3, which in theory sounds pretty nice since the added camera button really makes this phone great for photographers. When I purchased the phone, I loved it... Over time, however, I noticed that the overheating really took a toll on the experience. Then things stopped working. I've read where people completely lost function of their camera... I lost GPS. The locked bootloader means that the phone is stuck in the past. The community has been able to root the phone and even go so far as to load a custom recovery, but it stops there. There are no new ROMs... No updates after 5.1...this phone is already pretty much dead in the water because neither Sony, Verizon, nor any developer will take ownership to give life back to this phone with so much potential. XDA needs to move this phone to its own device thread... Hopefully someone will make the separation and put some development into this device.
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There is no reason that the d6708 should be in the Z3 area of XDA, other than to be a marker of mislabeling. From what I've gathered, the Z3v has a chipset similar to the Z2, but with the camera and power of a Z3, which in theory sounds pretty nice since the added camera button really makes this phone great for photographers. When I purchased the phone, I loved it... Over time, however, I noticed that the overheating really took a toll on the experience. Then things stopped working. I've read where people completely lost function of their camera... I lost GPS. The locked bootloader means that the phone is stuck in the past. The community has been able to root the phone and even go so far as to load a custom recovery, but it stops there. There are no new ROMs... No updates after 5.1...this phone is already pretty much dead in the water because neither Sony, Verizon, nor any developer will take ownership to give life back to this phone with so much potential. XDA needs to move this phone to its own device thread... Hopefully someone will make the separation and put some development into this device.
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I understand your frustration, but I disagree with your intentions of where the community should move to. When this phone hit the news about coming to Verizon, and once it did, it only remained as a few threads within the Z3 General forum. Owners of this phone and browsing customers of this phone would be entirely misguided by the threads of the actual Z3 when it happened. It was thanks to the people back then to help move the Z3v into its own subforum so a community could be formed in working directly with other people who has the Z3v. If you move it all back, it would be all for wasted efforts and the Z3v will just completely be buried without anyone to know its existence. The subforums should remain as is so it would help anyone else grab a still great phone.
Also, your gathered summary about the Z3v should be flipped. The phone has the chipset of the Z3, but everything else physically is a customized Z2 variant. The camera button is still nonetheless ultra useful as I do miss it on my Galaxy S7 Edge. The other issues I've had with my S7 Edge that I've never seen on the Z3v are lag issues, before and after root. I just rooted my S7 Edge and there are lots of bugs and kinks that had to be worked out, bu the Z3v never encountered such problems when it achieved root. Also, be glad you have custom recovery on the Z3v since custom recovery is not yet achieved for the Z3v. Just my 2 cents.
I have to say that I often come and check and see if there is any news about the z3v getting an update but it is starting to look more and more grimm. Which is sad because this is an amazing phone and verizon should of stuck with it. To bad for them I did fall in love with the sony phone line and since they don't really offer a sony phone anymore and att has moved into the area I have thought about changing over and buying a sony phone unlocked and hooking it up that way. Plus being a DirecTV customer I can get unlimited data for them. Now that is starting to look rather nice I must say. Thanks all.
Sony makes good phones, in fact in a recently released phone stats states the Sony line was the one that had the least restarts from crashing of any other phone.
If we didn't have the data package we have we would go to a GSM carrier and buy a newer Sony to use, great phones.
Sony has great build quality into their products, in my experience. My bro's S7 Edge had its LCD damaged (in a bulk case too) even though the phone looks perfectly fine without any cracks or water damage. I've dropped my Z3v dozens of time with the totally plain and simple case from Verizon, but no hardware damages done to it ever since.
My only contrast with both companies is that Samsung has excellent customer support by fixing his S7 Edge with no charge and completed the phone in a single day, being shipped back on its way anytime now. Sony requires all these paperwork and documents that doesn't even allow me to send my accessories to have them repaired, and I heard it takes weeks for them to do a repair too. Can't win them all, I guess.
Okay so I don't know if many of you will see this, but I've started a petition to fix this Marshmallow update permanently. I seriously can't believe the poor choices Sony make with their phones. This Marshmallow update was rushed in the end, and this phone has the potential to be better. Heating issue is kind of resolved, it doesn't heat up as it used to, but there is still a problem with the animations. Stamina mode is really bad, and no adoptable storage. If you want to make a change, then please sign the petition right here: https://www.change.org/p/sony-marshm...xperia-m4-aqua
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Okay so I don't know if many of you will see this, but I've started a petition to fix this Marshmallow update permanently. I seriously can't believe the poor choices Sony make with their phones. This Marshmallow update was rushed in the end, and this phone has the potential to be better. Heating issue is kind of resolved, it doesn't heat up as it used to, but there is still a problem with the animations. Stamina mode is really bad, and no adoptable storage. If you want to make a change, then please sign the petition right here: https://www.change.org/p/sony-marshm...xperia-m4-aqua
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I don't know about you people, but i'm well satisfied with the Marshmallow firmware. I use the adoptable storage mod, and everything works just fine. Phone is much faster than it was on Lolipop firmware. I don't have really any problems now.
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Okay so I don't know if many of you will see this, but I've started a petition to fix this Marshmallow update permanently. I seriously can't believe the poor choices Sony make with their phones. This Marshmallow update was rushed in the end, and this phone has the potential to be better. Heating issue is kind of resolved, it doesn't heat up as it used to, but there is still a problem with the animations. Stamina mode is really bad, and no adoptable storage. If you want to make a change, then please sign the petition right here: https://www.change.org/p/sony-marshm...xperia-m4-aqua
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Sony maybe rushed MM at the end, but was also under lot of pressure from its users. This XDA M4 Aqua was going on fire from people asking for MM. If lots of users push Sony to make update quickly, we can not get mad at Sony for doing so. That is my opinion. Let us hope we will get CM somewhere in the near future.
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I don't know about you people, but i'm well satisfied with the Marshmallow firmware. I use the adoptable storage mod, and everything works just fine. Phone is much faster than it was on Lolipop firmware. I don't have really any problems now.
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Same here I am so happy with it, I don't play games on my phone so not having adoptable storage doesn't hurt me everything else goes to 32gb sd card, phone is smooth, battery is amazing everything is amazing about this phone now. Only unhappy people are those who expect to play heavy games on this phone... sadly s615 is not for gaming
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Okay so I don't know if many of you will see this, but I've started a petition to fix this Marshmallow update permanently. I seriously can't believe the poor choices Sony make with their phones. This Marshmallow update was rushed in the end, and this phone has the potential to be better. Heating issue is kind of resolved, it doesn't heat up as it used to, but there is still a problem with the animations. Stamina mode is really bad, and no adoptable storage. If you want to make a change, then please sign the petition right here: ...
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The link is broken - ending should be "marshmallow-update-patch-needs-to-be-released-on-the-xperia-m4-aqua"
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I don't know about you people, but i'm well satisfied with the Marshmallow firmware. I use the adoptable storage mod, and everything works just fine. Phone is much faster than it was on Lolipop firmware. I don't have really any problems now.
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What type of Micro SD Card do u use for adoptable as internal storage in Sony M4 Aqua, does it have lag, and can I use Samsung Evo Plus 32 GB 95 MB/s U1 Micro SD Card?
Following my recent technical issues that were caused after updating my ZF3U to Android 7.0, I contacted ASUS and was told that "we have checked this for you and sent this info through for analysis. The Android N update has been stopped for OTA updates. So we would advise to downgrade the unit back to Android M for now. And do a factory reset for the unit".
This advice did not work and eventually my problems got worse (see other threads I posted about my problems). Few days a go my ZF3U completely died on me. Prior to this fingerprint recognition did not work, serial number was misreported in settings, no sound in calls was present even after downgrade to Android M. ASUS should not have released the Android 7.0 firmware in the first place pending proper testing on the ZF3U.
Eventually, I sent the phone to repair (through my insurance as ASUS insisted I had to send the device to Taiwan as it originated from there for the Asia market -POOR Service for an international company) and was advised that my ZF3U was beyond economical repair so a replacement was needed. I have now ordered another one as this phone is the only phone available that caters for my needs. I am really annoyed with ASUS, their service and the really poor software update they first rolled via OTA and then through their servers and then withdrew without any advice to those of us who have already installed it on our precious devices. They should never have released an incomplete, faulty firmware update. I hope those of you who have either downloaded the OTA or used the manual file do not experience the issues I had but if you do then good luck to you unless you have insurance.
Lets hope they learn to fix their phones properly with good after-sales support and I am still waiting for compensation from them following my recent complaint.
What's up with this update anyway ? I received it and my phone functions perfectly...
Why did Asus pull the update ? What's the official reason ? Is it a widespread problem ? Or just corner cases ?
Thanks.
Latoc said:
What's up with this update anyway ? I received it and my phone functions perfectly...
Why did Asus pull the update ? What's the official reason ? Is it a widespread problem ? Or just corner cases ?
Thanks.
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Not sure why it was pulled. I got the manual update second hand from a user on this site as it was already pulled from ASUS before I could get it. I knew the risk and updated anyways. No issues at all. Phone works perfectly, maybe even better. My bootloader was unlocked and rooted just like AWFRONT was. Not sure why I didn't get the same issues they did, but I am 100% issue free on the 7.0 update.
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Not sure why it was pulled. I got the manual update second hand from a user on this site as it was already pulled from ASUS before I could get it. I knew the risk and updated anyways. No issues at all. Phone works perfectly, maybe even better. My bootloader was unlocked and rooted just like AWFRONT was. Not sure why I didn't get the same issues they did, but I am 100% issue free on the 7.0 update.
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do you mind sharing the manual nougat firmware image and instructions to manually update?
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do you mind sharing the manual nougat firmware image and instructions to manually update?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-3-ultra/help/stock-recovery-t3585965/page2
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Not sure why it was pulled. I got the manual update second hand from a user on this site as it was already pulled from ASUS before I could get it. I knew the risk and updated anyways. No issues at all. Phone works perfectly, maybe even better. My bootloader was unlocked and rooted just like AWFRONT was. Not sure why I didn't get the same issues they did, but I am 100% issue free on the 7.0 update.
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this explains why my ultra didn't get the update yet.. probably it was rolled out to some devices, and encountered intermittent issue like above and rolled back..
I see Z4vs being sold on Ebay from China. No reason to think not legit. High rated sellers. I always wondered where all those unsold phones went.
Well, on my 2nd Z3v now and wondering... Any reason to think I couldn't buy a Z4v, slap my SIM in it and be a happy camper?
Let us know if you ever buy it
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Btw are you ok with no updates and etc?
I will answer my own question. I am currently holding my fully functional z4v. It's the real thing. I put my SIM in and it works fine. All functionality. No issues. It came in a z3 + box and I was about to be really pissed off but lo and behold. It's a z4v. Verizon logo on the back. Works on the network just fine. I will give this a couple of days and report back.
Obviously no ROM updates from VZW. So I am not going to go nuts with it. Not even gonna try to root it.
I will connect it to the Sony Xperia restore app to see if it even knows what it is.
So, yes. Z4vs are out there. Apparently they're all in China. I never believed they just destroyed them all.
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I will answer my own question. I am currently holding my fully functional z4v. It's the real thing. I put my SIM in and it works fine. All functionality. No issues. It came in a z3 + box and I was about to be really pissed off but lo and behold. It's a z4v. Verizon logo on the back. Works on the network just fine. I will give this a couple of days and report back.
Obviously no ROM updates from VZW. So I am not going to go nuts with it. Not even gonna try to root it.
I will connect it to the Sony Xperia restore app to see if it even knows what it is.
So, yes. Z4vs are out there. Apparently they're all in China. I never believed they just destroyed them all.
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Wow! That is awesome! I'm kind of surprised Verizon allows that device to activate.
I'm still running my Z3v but after three years it's starting to fall apart literally. It would be fun to "upgrade" to the Z4v if I could get my hands on one.
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I have a Z4V as well. Sony Dev site gives me a valid bootloader unlock code, however verizon has a bootloader unlock allowed=NO in place. I have spoken with verizon tech folks (Not low level people, but high level staff) they don't care about the phone at all. I bet if I knew what to ask for, I could get them to change unlock allowed from NO to YES...I believe that that can be done from the keypad.
I have managed to get root for 15 seconds at a time with (gasp) Kingroot, however RIC kicks in and reboots the phone and I back to square one.
Also, in it's stock for, I am unable to mount a MicroSD card, though SIM cards are fine.
I'd love to get the stock firmware and the ability to root. If I could get into the phone I could pull the stock partitions myself.
In order to use other ROMS, we would need the driver for the CDMA radio and the UHD Display. Easy enough to swap those out.
Anyone have any ideas??
BTW: I have working Fastboot and ADB. Flashtool does not recognize the phone nor do any of the "standard" root exploits work.
Rick
BlackIce
Any updates on getting z4v activated on Verizon network? Curious myself.
My Z4v is online with verizon, that was no problem at all. The issues I am having relate to (of course) locked bootloader and the lack of a STOCK ROM ftf file to experiment with. Since dm-verity and ric are still in place, root isn't possible (that I know of).
Great device, would love to experiment with it!
Rick
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Any updates on getting z4v activated on Verizon network? Curious myself.
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I recently got one as well (not from China, but some kind of a test device). Works on Verizon just fine, though right after activation it had been showing an icon saying, "Activation in progress, don't turn off the device" for >1 hour until I restarted it. The only issue I have now (besides being stuck with an old firmware) is with the mic - people on the other side of the call complain they can barely make out what I'm saying. No such complaints with a headset, so I just use that for now. Not sure if it's something that could be fixed with software - I'm in the same position as blackice000 on that front.
dskrvk,
I am waiting on a guy from Vietnam that believes he has the STOCK ROM for the Z4V (ftf format) If I had that, I believe we can adapt many of the newer ROMS and improvements while keeping the device specific pieces intact. Hell, I would keep 5.0.2 if i had root. Really like Titanium backup!
If you have any leads...let me know. I know this device is a rarity, but it's almost exactly what i wanted to replace my aging Razr M (albeit a bit larger than i would have liked.)
Rick,
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dskrvk said:
I recently got one as well (not from China, but some kind of a test device). Works on Verizon just fine, though right after activation it had been showing an icon saying, "Activation in progress, don't turn off the device" for >1 hour until I restarted it. The only issue I have now (besides being stuck with an old firmware) is with the mic - people on the other side of the call complain they can barely make out what I'm saying. No such complaints with a headset, so I just use that for now. Not sure if it's something that could be fixed with software - I'm in the same position as blackice000 on that front.
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We got the information by early November, but still nothing happened. Anyone with some information when this is gonna be released?
There was new update for japanese version 2 days ago...not sure if its patch or new version https://xpericheck.com/SOG09/24936126
I ve got US 62 model and the only thing i ve got so far is security update.
Hope they fix wifi because its awfull at least on mine.
nope not even a new security patch
that's Sony guy's
I have the Xperia 5 IV XQ-CQ72 and i got update notification but still on Android 12. no 13 yet.
I have Xperia 5 IV XQ-CQ72 too. No 13 either, but I just bought the phone (Black Friday acquisition). I'm new to Sony family, previously I had a few Vivo phones. So far I'm impressed. It's amazing how Japanese squeeze such a lot of electronics into a small phone, even a 5Ah battery, and everything works flawlessly.
I'm glad that I don't experience two issues usually mentioned in phone reviews - overheating and unreliable fingerprint.
I don't have a chance to really test the camera, though. But on the first sight it looks more promising than I expected. After all, I came from Vivo.
piskr said:
I have Xperia 5 IV XQ-CQ72 too. No 13 either, but I just bought the phone (Black Friday acquisition). I'm new to Sony family, previously I had a few Vivo phones. So far I'm impressed. It's amazing how Japanese squeeze such a lot of electronics into a small phone, even a 5Ah battery, and everything works flawlessly.
I'm glad that I don't experience two issues usually mentioned in phone reviews - overheating and unreliable fingerprint.
I don't have a chance to really test the camera, though. But on the first sight it looks more promising than I expected. After all, I came from Vivo.
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The phone is great, except it kills apps from background too fast. That's a software issue thankfully and can be resolved with a software update.
WalterCool said:
The phone is great, except it kills apps from background too fast. That's a software issue thankfully and can be resolved with a software update.
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I've been chatting with Sony support about this and providing whatever videos they ask for as evidence. Hopefully they address the problem since I've given them logcat dumps demonstrating the issue.
I just got info from Sony support today that one of the issues I've reported should be fixed in the Android 13 release due by the end of next week (Dec 23). I'm in the US with the 62 model.
I just flashed the 64.1.A.0.857 via newflasher ...
Downloaded the firmware via XperiFirm.
Device: XQ-CQ54
Merry Christmas everyone ...
I just dirty flashed 64.1.A.0.857 on a rooted XQ-CQ72. No issues so far
u lost root.?!
DanielMode said:
u lost root.?!
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I did lost Magisk, but you can easily redo it.
k but I'm tired to reset my phone again
WalterCool said:
I did lost Magisk, but you can easily redo it.
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For that matter - since Sony openly lets us unlock the bootloader, OFW updates are a full-go for us and won't impede rooting ability, right?
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For that matter - since Sony openly lets us unlock the bootloader, OFW updates are a full-go for us and won't impede rooting ability, right?
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1.- Only for international devices. Sony doesn't allow bootloader unlock for US devices.
2.- As far I know, modified devices (unlocked bootloader) lose OTA. I had to manually update using Xperiafirm and newflasher
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1.- Only for international devices. Sony doesn't allow bootloader unlock for US devices.
2.- As far I know, modified devices (unlocked bootloader) lose OTA. I had to manually update using Xperiafirm and newflasher
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By the way, I'm infinitely glad I picked one up in Japan over the US because this scrutiny is ridiculous! That said, I'm not rooted just yet and I'd have to prep a full file (mostly in-phone backup of pics) backup first, so I'm not rooted yet and seems like jumping to 13 first makes the most sense.
That said, I seriously gotta tip my hat to Sony for just allowing us to do entirely as we please with their phones while literally every other brand is cockblocking our freedom. Over the years, I missed having a task killer soooo much to save random background apps slowly tugging at the battery and then all the magisk plugins like ad blockers.