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I'm a serious and long term tester of custom ROMs for various devices, but more recently the 1st gen (Condor) and 2nd gen (Surnia) moto e.
I'm looking for your experiences, comments, tips and tricks of stock firmware (lollipop and marshmallow) verses the many custom ROMs available for the 2nd gen moto e.
Tell me what you find the best ROM.
What's the most stable? Has the best battery life?
What ROM can you make lots of modifications without affecting performance?
What's the worst ROMs? What ROMs have the most bugs?
This is not a post asking for your opinions so I can go out to find the best ROM, personally I have found what I consider the best ROM/set up/configuration for my E2 and am looking to see if other users agree with me.
Many thanks
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I personally fell in love with the Stock ROM on my XT1521 it has the best performance and is extremely stable. Some may have had issues because they flashed the stock ROM on some other device rather than the device this ROM was made for. Though it has been reported that the UK version has started to receive the 6.0 update. I request everybody to downgrade to the 5.0.2 stock ROM and update to 6.0 through the OTA update.
Again this is my experience and don't bash me for this.
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ayush rao said:
I personally fell in love with the Stock ROM on my XT1521 it has the best performance and is extremely stable. Some may have had issues because they flashed the stock ROM on some other device rather than the device this ROM was made for. Though it has been reported that the UK version has started to receive the 6.0 update. I request everybody to downgrade to the 5.0.2 stock ROM and update to 6.0 through the OTA update.
Again this is my experience and don't bash me for this.
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I won't bash you, your reply is exactly the reply I wanted.
Personally, I'm having better luck right now with the stock rom, but my personal preference is the last build of CM12.1 (17th April security update)
3 day battery life, very fast and the most stable my moto e has ever been.
Less luck with my 1st gen moto e, currently running CM13, it's laggy and very unstable
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ivan39 said:
I won't bash you, your reply is exactly the reply I wanted.
Personally, I'm having better luck right now with the stock rom, but my personal preference is the last build of CM12.1 (17th April security update)
3 day battery life, very fast and the most stable my moto e has ever been.
Less luck with my 1st gen moto e, currently running CM13, it's laggy and very unstable
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Did u get the official 6.0 update???
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ayush rao said:
Did u get the official 6.0 update???
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No, I just flashed it from the firmware thread here, only after cm13 played hell with me!
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ivan39 said:
No, I just flashed it from the firmware thread here, only after cm13 played hell with me!
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Just try and flash the 5.0.2 Stock ROM for ur model no. and see if u received the 6.0 update cause someone posted that they received it. Also in the past when I tried the stock ROM designed for another model I didn't get great performance but when I flashed the stock ROM designed for my model no. I got the desired performance.
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ayush rao said:
Just try and flash the 5.0.2 Stock ROM for ur model no. and see if u received the 6.0 update cause someone posted that they received it. Also in the past when I tried the stock ROM designed for another model I didn't get great performance but when I flashed the stock ROM designed for my model no. I got the desired performance.
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I apologise for not explaining this fully, meaning you made a completely unnecessary and incorrect reply (only because I gave you incomplete information)
So let me explain fully.
My moto e had issues around the 05/04 build of CM13.
After an upgrade from 04/04 to 05/04 via "dirty" flash (only wiping dalvik and cache) the moto e "hung" and got stuck on the "splash" screen and would not boot.
Returning to twrp to wipe system/data/internal storage was futile, it still would not boot past the Motorola boot logo.
Several people suggested I return my moto e to stock, so I duly returned it to stock BY FLASHING THE EU RETAIL 5.0.2 FIRMWARE FOR XT1524-(the variant of moto e I have)
This was completely unsuccessful as although I returned to stock, I left the bootloader unlocked and re rooted and reflashed twrp as soon as I had successfully returned the device to stock.
After booting into 5.0.2 I checked everything was fully working but found the device to be very slow, extremely laggy and stuttery.
Further research suggested UK users who had manually flashed the 5.1.1 update (you must remember UK has NEVER been offered the 5.1.1 update, as Motorola announced in December 2015 UK was skipping 5.1.1 to go straight to 6.0) got the OTA update after successfully flashing said 5.1.1 EU firmware.
This was again unsuccessful, with the device not quite as slow and laggy as 5.0.2 but now was running a firmware it should NOT have ever received.
Concerned this was my issue and sceptical of the advice I had received about the 5.1.1 firmware, I flashed the EU retail 6.0 stock ROM
I found it
Slow
Battery intensive
Laggy and stuttery, there was no fluidity, the screen movements were at best "jerky"
Ringtone volume reduced to the point I missed incoming calls.
Random reboots.
One point I must make to you and anyone else reading this is to
NEVER FLASH FIRMWARE FOR ANOTHER DEVICE OR FLASH INCOMPATIBLE/FIRMWARE NOT DESIGNED FOR YOUR DEVICE.
That is a very big no no and should not be attempted for any reason.
For example, if I flashed firmware for an XT1521 on my XT1524, I would permanently brick my device.
Same if I flashed XT1527 or XT1523 firmware.
No one should be attempting to flash incompatible firmware.
And to someone who messaged me asking if he could flash a "no carrier" firmware from an XT1526 on to an XT1524 to make this a no carrier unlocked device is simply "NO!"
Flashing a no carrier firmware on a carrier locked device will brick it.
Flashing XT1526 firmware on an XT1524 will brick it.
There may not seem much difference between these variants of devices but I'm told they are quite different, that's why they are numbered in such a way to make them different to the continents for which they are designed for.
This is not my opinion, this is fact, openly found here on XDA and read many times after people have knowingly flashed the wrong firmware on the wrong device and suffered a permanent brick!
I'm pretty sure most of my problems came from flashing 5.0.2 and 5.1.1, and since I had upgraded to 6.0.1 running CM13, I simply made the problem worse but not downgrading modem/bootloader.
I hope this explains my situation fully, but I've found the last security update to CM12.1 (17/04) the most stable custom ROM available for Surnia although I am now back and happy finally with CM13.
Regards.
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Cm13 22/04 is very good, just as good as CM12.1 17/04 that I came from (clean install, not using any mods other than squid kernel)
Do not use open gapps with CM13, squid has posted various warnings over the past several days to avoid using them as they have broken cm13.
I'm using caf 6.0.1 rom, before I was using aosp 5.1.1 with squid kernel and imo those are the best roms. Sure they don't have any custom features but they don't have every day updates (like cm) too so everything is pretty much polished with decent package of gapps. Both roms are fully stable and basically bug free. I wouldn't change my caf for any other rom.
@ivan39 you're not right. I remember that when there was no 5.1 update in Europe you could easily flash us firmware on Xt1524 changing only one radio file. BTW bugs that you had on stock 6.0 are probably caused by bad flash/not clean flash or something. It's impossible that stock firmware causes random reboots.
Thanks for that, I did not know its possible to flash US firmware on XT1524, so I stand corrected and hanging head in shame.....
Really, thanks for the info, something else I've learned.
Ref 6.0 stock, I assumed a bad flash, reflashed 3 times over 3 days, made no difference.
Agree with everything you said and will definitely look at the roms you mentioned
have you made full wipe after flash?
iks8 said:
have you made full wipe after flash?
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Yes.
Stock 6.0 wasn't for me.
Back on Cm13
ivan39 said:
I'm a serious and long term tester of custom ROMs for various devices, but more recently the 1st gen (Condor) and 2nd gen (Surnia) moto e.
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First of all, thanks for your contributions towards the device and the community, Moto E is an underdog but potent device which can really use a helping hand from enthusiasts like us
ivan39 said:
I'm looking for your experiences, comments, tips and tricks of stock firmware (lollipop and marshmallow) verses the many custom ROMs available for the 2nd gen moto e.
Tell me what you find the best ROM.
What's the most stable? Has the best battery life?
What ROM can you make lots of modifications without affecting performance?
What's the worst ROMs? What ROMs have the most bugs?
This is not a post asking for your opinions so I can go out to find the best ROM, personally I have found what I consider the best ROM/set up/configuration for my E2 and am looking to see if other users agree with me.
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Stock vs Custom ROMs (CM in my case)
My device originally came with Android 5.0, but by that time CM 12.1 (5.1 based) was already available. The jump from Stock 5.0 to CM 12.1 was NOT very exciting. There was an immediate performance drop at the cost of added features. I moved back and forth between Stock and CM just to realise that CM 12.1 RAM usage was way higher than Stock 5.0 RAM usage. I stuck to CM 12.1 due to the extra features and over time, learnet to live with the performance drop.
A few months back, I thought of giving Stock ROM another try, and by that time Stock 5.1 had arrived. Going back to Stock 5.1, to my surprise, I found that the snappiness of Stock 5.0 was gone. I realised that between 5.0 and 5.1, something fundamental changed at Stock ROM/Kernel level and now the Stock 5.1 RAM usage was equal to CM 12.1 RAM usage. That also explained my initial experience, where CM 12.1 RAM overhead was simply because of AOSP 5.1 changes, and not CM additions. At this point, it was only sensible to stick to CM 12.1 as performance drop from Stock 5.1 was minimal.
Recently I tried Stock 6.0, but IMHO it feels rushed, it exists only for the sake of existing. Moreover, I can not believe Motorola/Lenovo can be serious about the software of their lowest-end nearing-end-of-life phone. They had to release 6.0 only to avoid lawsuits for false update promises (made in advertising and on retail boxes).
A final point: I'd prefer CM over Stock any given day simply because of community involvement in development, testing and bug fixing. Being Open Source and hugely popular, CM bugs are reported and fixed much much faster than AOSP bugs. You might say that AOSP is also Open Source, but it's only one way. You can fork, but they don't accept changes back. Overall, I have HUGE trust in CM community than AOSP/OEMs which are only concerned about making more and more money.
Choosing between various Custom ROMs
Most Custom ROMs are developed only in following 2 ways:
AOSP/CAF based
CM based (which is itself AOSP/CAF based)
Type 1 ROMs simply can not match the community involvement and release frequency of CM. Most ROMs I've seen fade away after 1-2 months of updates/support while CM keeps going forever. I see added features only as extra bits that has to be maintained. Moreover, most of the extra features of Type 1 ROMs are already in CM, or available as Xposed modules, or available as root-supported apps. So these ROMs don't bring anything extra to table.
Type 2 ROMs also fail to match the release frequency and long time updates/support offered by CM. Moreover, the added features are also questionable for the same reasons as stated above.
A valid point for considering any custom ROM except CM would either be totally reskinned ROMs, or the ones which are based on other AOSP forks (MIUI etc.). Personally, I fail to see the point of reskinned ROMs. Once you start installing Play Store Apps, you'll quickly realise that Play Store Apps are based on Material (AOSP) UI guidelines. Hence, you'll end up with a system where user apps looks/behave completely different from System apps. That's too much of an eyesore for me.
Some say that ROM X is much faster that CM, but I'm yet to see such a ROM. Benchmarks aside, I've tried almost all ROMs available in our forums and their real world performance is more of the same. For a ROM X claiming to be faster than CM, I'd be very interested to see which code changes have resulted in such a gain and if so, why they haven't been added to CM already.
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So that's what I think. Let me know what do you guys think. Thanks for raising such a discussion
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ivan39 said:
last build of CM12.1 (17th April security update)
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https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=surnia only shows last 5 builds, where can I download this one? I'm still on 0324 build
gameSTICKER said:
First of all, thanks for your contributions towards the device and the community, Moto E is an underdog but potent device which can really use a helping hand from enthusiasts like us
Stock vs Custom ROMs (CM in my case)
My device originally came with Android 5.0, but by that time CM 12.1 (5.1 based) was already available. The jump from Stock 5.0 to CM 12.1 was NOT very exciting. There was an immediate performance drop at the cost of added features. I moved back and forth between Stock and CM just to realise that CM 12.1 RAM usage was way higher than Stock 5.0 RAM usage. I stuck to CM 12.1 due to the extra features and over time, learnet to live with the performance drop.
A few months back, I thought of giving Stock ROM another try, and by that time Stock 5.1 had arrived. Going back to Stock 5.1, to my surprise, I found that the snappiness of Stock 5.0 was gone. I realised that between 5.0 and 5.1, something fundamental changed at Stock ROM/Kernel level and now the Stock 5.1 RAM usage was equal to CM 12.1 RAM usage. That also explained my initial experience, where CM 12.1 RAM overhead was simply because of AOSP 5.1 changes, and not CM additions. At this point, it was only sensible to stick to CM 12.1 as performance drop from Stock 5.1 was minimal.
Recently I tried Stock 6.0, but IMHO it feels rushed, it exists only for the sake of existing. Moreover, I can not believe Motorola/Lenovo can be serious about the software of their lowest-end nearing-end-of-life phone. They had to release 6.0 only to avoid lawsuits for false update promises (made in advertising and on retail boxes).
A final point: I'd prefer CM over Stock any given day simply because of community involvement in development, testing and bug fixing. Being Open Source and hugely popular, CM bugs are reported and fixed much much faster than AOSP bugs. You might say that AOSP is also Open Source, but it's only one way. You can fork, but they don't accept changes back. Overall, I have HUGE trust in CM community than AOSP/OEMs which are only concerned about making more and more money.
Choosing between various Custom ROMs
Most Custom ROMs are developed only in following 2 ways:
AOSP/CAF based
CM based (which is itself AOSP/CAF based)
Type 1 ROMs simply can not match the community involvement and release frequency of CM. Most ROMs I've seen fade away after 1-2 months of updates/support while CM keeps going forever. I see added features only as extra bits that has to be maintained. Moreover, most of the extra features of Type 1 ROMs are already in CM, or available as Xposed modules, or available as root-supported apps. So these ROMs don't bring anything extra to table.
Type 2 ROMs also fail to match the release frequency and long time updates/support offered by CM. Moreover, the added features are also questionable for the same reasons as stated above.
A valid point for considering any custom ROM except CM would either be totally reskinned ROMs, or the ones which are based on other AOSP forks (MIUI etc.). Personally, I fail to see the point of reskinned ROMs. Once you start installing Play Store Apps, you'll quickly realise that Play Store Apps are based on Material (AOSP) UI guidelines. Hence, you'll end up with a system where user apps looks/behave completely different from System apps. That's too much of an eyesore for me.
Some say that ROM X is much faster that CM, but I'm yet to see such a ROM. Benchmarks aside, I've tried almost all ROMs available in our forums and their real world performance is more of the same. For a ROM X claiming to be faster than CM, I'd be very interested to see which code changes have resulted in such a gain and if so, why they haven't been added to CM already.
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So that's what I think. Let me know what do you guys think. Thanks for raising such a discussion
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https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=surnia only shows last 5 builds, where can I download this one? I'm still on 0324 build
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Have a look on the cm12.1 thread, I'll post you a link
CM12.1-unoffical-20160417
Wow, thanks for such a detailed reply, I really appreciate you taking the time to offer your experiences!
Stock 6.0 in my experience was awful, I hated it, and can say nothing good about it, even though many users have disagreed with me or told me I'm wrong or did not install it properly.......yeah.....right.......
CM13 is better than it has been of late but just lacks a bit of "polish"
Its way more stable now but it still seems to have "hizzy" fits for no reason, or go totally bonkers for no obvious reason......
Let me take time to say I have been using xposed and various customisation yo make my moto e more like the android n developer preview, and these mods where just a little bit too much for it, it would run fast, fine with no issues for 24-36 hours and then just give up and take over 20 minutes to load a web page or drop a call I was making several times before connecting on the third or four attempt.
Things were better when these mods were removed, but still not learning my lesson, I started experimenting with various launchers and lockscreens just because I love to customise my phone.
Again, this has not helped in my quest to find the ultimate user experience for my E2.
CM12.1
I've found this the most stable, fluid and "fastest" ROM of all.
I agree no ROM is faster than another, but everything just happens a bit faster in the ROM than others.
This ROM is my back up, fail safe and emergency, if I get a bad nightly with CM13 or CM13 misbehaves, I just drop back.
In my experience the difference in looks and behaviour between CM12.1 and CM13 is negligible.
The only difference I see is the adaptive storage in CM13.
Other ROMs.
I found resurrection remix a very good ROM, again, it would work flawlessly for several days and then just go stupid, in the end I gave up using it because it was no better or worse than CM13 (being CM13 based)
No other ROM I tested came close to CM but I have to mention Tipsy OS as a very good rom!
I have a 1st gen moto e that was my original personal daily driver until my work phone (given to me by my employers-A Sony Xperia M2) updated to lollipop and the touchscreen failed.
So my E1 took on the duty of becoming my work phone, I had to get it unlocked from Tesco to take my work Vodafone sim, but at a small cost.
My wife brought me the E2 last December as an early Christmas present (I suspect because it had £20 off the retail price hahaha) and I lost no time modding it, unlocking the bootloader, flashing twrp and installing CM12.1 within the first 24 hours of getting it home.
The E2 is way better than the E1 but the E1 copes with damp and dusty conditions at work, runs CM13 by squid flawlessly and even though its nowhere near as fast or fluid as the E2, it just copes with CM13.
The E2 copes better with anything you throw at it. I'm not a fan overlayed ROMs either but I'm running Xpirits excellent port of sense 7 and blinkfeed on my E2, and its totally fine.
I just wish the ringtone was louder on the E2, I have modded mp3s with various apps but I find them too distorted to use as ringtones.
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Blinkfeed/sense 7 port by Xpirit on my moto E 2nd gen [emoji41]
Here my take on this subject:
I feel as if the moto e is better now with running cm13 on mine. Stock wasn't bad, just I never been a big fan of xposed(shocker I know) and the longevity of the phone increases for me as I can run the latest android os thanks to the hard work of the devs.
Now I haven't flashed another rom except stock MM. but I feel very contempt for now with cm13 and how it performs for my needs with this phone. Last part off topic:
I also feel as if this could be the last moto e from Motorola(lenova whatever blah) and I also feel like that the moto g will just come in cheaper models that will replace the e. So this phone could be the last of a solid running android phone with stock android under 5inch that's actually worth the money!
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For me, nothing beats stock 6.0 with squid kernel. I've tried CM13 but the battery life wasnt even similar to stock 6.0 (yes, also with squid kernel installed). I dont play games, i only care about battery life and stock 6.0 is the best for that (at least for me).
pd: CM12.1 and stock 5.1.1 are great too if i install squid kernel + xposed + greenify + powernap. Stock 6.0 doesnt need so much work to give me great battery life.
903tex said:
Here my take on this subject:
I feel as if the moto e is better now with running cm13 on mine. Stock wasn't bad, just I never been a big fan of xposed(shocker I know) and the longevity of the phone increases for me as I can run the latest android os thanks to the hard work of the devs.
Now I haven't flashed another rom except stock MM. but I feel very contempt for now with cm13 and how it performs for my needs with this phone. Last part off topic:
I also feel as if this could be the last moto e from Motorola(lenova whatever blah) and I also feel like that the moto g will just come in cheaper models that will replace the e. So this phone could be the last of a solid running android phone with stock android under 5inch that's actually worth the money!
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I always use the Stock ROM since I faced serious issues with CM13 (But that's another story). I think the official firmware is much more stable compared to CM13, moreover it has Moto display and the audio effects EQ I can't live without. There will be a next Moto e (that's what the rumours suggest. Search Motorola affinity on the web) though it has been reported that it will feature a mediatek chip. This means ROM development will be slow and there will never be official CM13 on that device.(Since Cyanogenmod officially support only snapdragon chips).
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Can you suggest me a good custom miui rom for the phone? I want one with the best battery life. Thanks
neilsp said:
Can you suggest me a good custom miui rom for the phone? I want one with the best battery life. Thanks
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1) Try yourself to find the best ROM..
2) battery life is nearly identical for all roms i tried.. (AOSP Extended, Resurrection Remix, Lineage OS, AICP)
neilsp said:
Can you suggest me a good custom miui rom for the phone? I want one with the best battery life. Thanks
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Custom Miui rom? Eh, there is no custom Miui roms I guess, you could try flashing Xiaomi.eu roms. That's all I know about mi roms.
Just flash an AOSP based rom, best for business
AFAIK, every custom ROMs / MIUI roms gives same battery life.
Good rom - criteria in post
Hi there. I finally got permission to unlock the bootloader in my xiaomi redmi note 4 global Version (snapdragon). Well, actually it's a device I'm Setting up for a friend.
I will try several roms for the Note 4 mido, but I Need some helpf from you to narrow the roms I'm going to try.
The criteria the roms should fullfill:
- Simple
- Stable
- good battery life
- fast/snappy
- good camera-app preinstalled
- good gps / navigation
- Fingerprint sensor working
- front sensor-Buttons working
- if possible, OTA updates
Would AOSP ext, Resurrection Remix and Lineage be a good choice, or are they instable/too Feature rich? What about AICP? What's the difference between slim7 and candy7? Would they be good? Thank you very much for any Input, really looking Forward working with this device and to get rid of miui...
cant unlock my yet, but you could you share which one worked best? thanks
Multirom.me
I tried XenonHD, Lineage and AOSP ext. so far, always the latest version. I love the simplicity of Xenon, and that it uses the Nova Launcher. Unfortunately, it bugs me that the soft-buttons on the front don't vibrate (yet). Lineage... I just tried it too short to judge it.
Resurrection was too complicated/feature rich for my taste.
Then I installed AOSP extended, and I really, really like it. It's really stable, it works, and it has all the daily-driver qualities that I need.
plz link to the extended rom if u can , thanks
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I tried XenonHD, Lineage and AOSP ext. so far, always the latest version. I love the simplicity of Xenon, and that it uses the Nova Launcher. Unfortunately, it bugs me that the soft-buttons on the front don't vibrate (yet). Lineage... I just tried it too short to judge it.
Resurrection was too complicated/feature rich for my taste.
Then I installed AOSP extended, and I really, really like it. It's really stable, it works, and it has all the daily-driver qualities that I need.
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plz link to the extended rom and guide for new member if u can , thanks
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plz link to the extended rom and guide for new member if u can , thanks
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Here you go:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...evelopment/rom-aospextended-rom-v3-3-t3578477
Hey guys! Which andr68rus ROM is better for battery life! Idle and SOT, both, official versions of every version.
Selections are
Paranoid Android (final), Dirty Unicorns (final), Omni ROM (final), Ressurection Remix(final)
Please comment everybody, this will help me a lot and if possible share screenshots of your SOT's as proof.
Have a nice day
Jatin
I got 3 to 4 hours on Omni and RR.
Nougat rom you can edit kernel for better battery but less performance maybe can get 5 hrs SOT. I tried Nougat Hexagon rom and like it more than mentioned rom.
For me its Dirty Unicorns. Also u can use RR-PS, its based on my device tree, but have framework modification for great powersave.
Also very good rom is AOKP marshmallow.
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For me its Dirty Unicorns. Also u can use RR-PS, its based on my device tree, but have framework modification for great powersave.
Also very good rom is AOKP marshmallow.
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Thank you very much! I don't like RR PS Because i didn't find much difference in battery in comparison offical version, even in idle, idk why! But you said very good ROM is aokp marshmallow but last time when I tried it camera wasn't working after first reboot, that's why I am not on it. Is that camera issue fixed? If not then I will use DU from today. Thanks for reply
Hello guys!
Can you help me to choose a firmware? Don't care about battery. Just fresh stable version. Android 7+, English version, for T-Mobile LTE.
Thank you!
I decided to flash a rom. But i can't decide which one best for daily driver.
I want to know that.. Please tell me which is the best.. Guys which rom are you using?
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Hard to say because they're all pretty much alike. Pick your poison (Stock/Lineage/AOSP) and read up on the flavours the devs add to each one. Whatever floats your boat. All the active ones - that I have tried - are stable :shrug:
MiyuruB said:
I decided to flash a rom. But i can't decide which one best for daily driver.
I want to know that.. Please tell me which is the best.. Guys which rom are you using?
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If you want to try out nougat roms first then, resurrection remix is a must try. Now resurrection remix comes with a ton of customisations but if you are more of a stock guy then lineage os or slim rom is for you. However if you wanna directly try out oreo (which I won't recommend) then liquid remix, aosp extended 5.1 and aoscp are roms to definitely try out.
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Hard to say because they're all pretty much alike. Pick your poison (Stock/Lineage/AOSP) and read up on the flavours the devs add to each one. Whatever floats your boat. All the active ones - that I have tried - are stable :shrug:
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what about pixel experience ? I decided to try that out? is it bad or how is that? still i didnt test any custom rom.
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If you want to try out nougat roms first then, resurrection remix is a must try. Now resurrection remix comes with a ton of customisations but if you are more of a stock guy then lineage os or slim rom is for you. However if you wanna directly try out oreo (which I won't recommend) then liquid remix, aosp extended 5.1 and aoscp are roms to definitely try out.
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what about pixel experience ? I decided to try that out? is it bad or how is that? still i didnt test any custom rom.
Why did you say don't try Oreo? I don't need lot of customization..actually i don't like bla bla.. I need stock rom.. what about cardinal rom? and i want a daily driver rom
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MiyuruB said:
what about pixel experience ? I decided to try that out? is it bad or how is that? still i didnt test any custom rom.
Why did you say don't try Oreo? I don't need lot of customization..actually i don't like bla bla.. I need stock rom.. what about cardinal rom? and i want a daily driver rom
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I used cardinal for a week and i must say it's pretty good for daily driver. Smooth and stable. I tried a few oreo roms (omnirom, aex and cardinal) and i prefer cardinal in overall performance + battery. I used velvet kernel in all those roms. I decided to switch back to nougat rr since i like all those customization options and battery life is much better in nougat for now.
akisg said:
I used cardinal for a week and i must say it's pretty good for daily driver. Smooth and stable. I tried a few oreo roms (omnirom, aex and cardinal) and i prefered cardinal in overall performance + battery. I used velvet kernel in all those roms. I decided to switch back to nougat rr since i like all those customization options and battery life is much better in nougat for now.
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Please tell me which nought rom are u going to use?
MiyuruB said:
what about pixel experience ? I decided to try that out? is it bad or how is that? still i didnt test any custom rom.
what about pixel experience ? I decided to try that out? is it bad or how is that? still i didnt test any custom rom.
Why did you say don't try Oreo? I don't need lot of customization..actually i don't like bla bla.. I need stock rom.. what about cardinal rom? and i want a daily driver rom
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Pretty much all the roms are stable enough to use as a daily driver. But oreo isn't mature as of now. That's why i said not to try oreo. Plus since you haven't tried any custom rom for this devce, you "should" atleast have a look what the custom side of nougat has to offer. Don't get me wrong, oreo is good, and it's the best android right now, but there are some bugs regarding wifi and Bluetooth connectivity, and cellular network. However if you are really excited to try out oreo, especially pixel experience, then the only catch in the rom is that, many times the device is being referred as pixel and not Redmi note 4, like the setup says "set up your pixel device" , which for me i am not a huge fan of. Instead the i am gonna share my procedure for the perfect stock experience. So I've used the aoscp rom for about 2 months and it has been really good. It has a near stock experience but includes some tiny features like accent color changer, and button remapping. So what i do is, i install the rom, and along with it i install the micro package (or more recently i had started using the aroma package to install only what i need), and after gapps i install product sans font (attached thw zip in case you wanna try), and the ambient display gesture. Now at this point sometimes i also install the stormguard kernel zip file (stormguard is an overclocked kernel which actually gives nice increased performance, especially in games). Now this is my perfect setup for my device. Maybe you'll have something else? But definitely try this out.
MiyuruB said:
Please tell me which nought rom are u going to use?
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I am currently using Luis Build.
It's the only unofficial rr build that is updated till now afaik, since there is no more official update.
I've tried almost all ROMs that are available for RN4..But when comes for daily usage I'd prefer LineageOS or resurrection remix.
And out of these two if stability and performance where of utmost important to me I'd use LineageOS(obvious isn't it??).
And if I wanted to customize my ROM as per my wish then RR it is. Doesn't mean RR is not stable it's just that Lineage is better in terms of stability.
Happy flashing!!
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Pretty much all the roms are stable enough to use as a daily driver. But oreo isn't mature as of now. That's why i said not to try oreo. Plus since you haven't tried any custom rom for this devce, you "should" atleast have a look what the custom side of nougat has to offer. Don't get me wrong, oreo is good, and it's the best android right now, but there are some bugs regarding wifi and Bluetooth connectivity, and cellular network. However if you are really excited to try out oreo, especially pixel experience, then the only catch in the rom is that, many times the device is being referred as pixel and not Redmi note 4, like the setup says "set up your pixel device" , which for me i am not a huge fan of. Instead the i am gonna share my procedure for the perfect stock experience. So I've used the aoscp rom for about 2 months and it has been really good. It has a near stock experience but includes some tiny features like accent color changer, and button remapping. So what i do is, i install the rom, and along with it i install the micro package (or more recently i had started using the aroma package to install only what i need), and after gapps i install product sans font (attached thw zip in case you wanna try), and the ambient display gesture. Now at this point sometimes i also install the stormguard kernel zip file (stormguard is an overclocked kernel which actually gives nice increased performance, especially in games). Now this is my perfect setup for my device. Maybe you'll have something else? But definitely try this out.
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Bro please give me that rom? Im using pixel experience now.. but i think its not what i want and some features are missing.. please give me your rom and what do you think about lineageos 15.1..should i install that ..or what is the prefect for daily driving?
MiyuruB said:
Bro please give me that rom? Im using pixel experience now.. but i think its not what i want and some features are missing.. please give me your rom and what do you think about lineageos 15.1..should i install that ..or what is the prefect for daily driving?
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Nahh that's old now dude, since aoscp became official i feel it has become slower in performance. So right now i am actually using the Treble supported lineage os 15.1, and it is pretty good. However if you want customisations then there are only two roms to choose, and they are Resurrection Remix and cdDroid. These roms are filled with customisation, and both of them are based on lineage os. I've tried both and used resurrection remix for a week or so, so the main difference between both of them is, regarding the ui. The features are more or less the same, but resurrection remix is based on an older version of los rn (resurrection remix 6.0.0 taken in consideration) whereas crDroid is based on newer aources and has better ui control.
And regarding Lineage os, it is pretty good. I always decrease the animation speed to 0.5x to be smooth, and after that it's been real smooth and good. It now has some more customisation and features added. It also has a feature to change the accent color and ui mode. Pretty good. I've attached screenshots for you to see.
(The los now has new icons too)
In conclusion if you want features, go with Resurrection remix or crDroid. (I'll prefer Resurrection Remix), but if you want some aosp rom with decent amount of customisation then go for Liquid Remix or Aosip.
(In below screenshot, keep in mind that i installed the product sans font and ambient display mod
@Arnova8G2 Is there any chance that you are fixing the perennial slow motion crash bug on RN4.. I hope it is done cos it is the only thing that is not working as of now.
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Nahh that's old now dude, since aoscp became official i feel it has become slower in performance. So right now i am actually using the Treble supported lineage os 15.1, and it is pretty good. However if you want customisations then there are only two roms to choose, and they are Resurrection Remix and cdDroid. These roms are filled with customisation, and both of them are based on lineage os. I've tried both and used resurrection remix for a week or so, so the main difference between both of them is, regarding the ui. The features are more or less the same, but resurrection remix is based on an older version of los rn (resurrection remix 6.0.0 taken in consideration) whereas crDroid is based on newer aources and has better ui control.
And regarding Lineage os, it is pretty good. I always decrease the animation speed to 0.5x to be smooth, and after that it's been real smooth and good. It now has some more customisation and features added. It also has a feature to change the accent color and ui mode. Pretty good. I've attached screenshots for you to see.
(The los now has new icons too)
In conclusion if you want features, go with Resurrection remix or crDroid. (I'll prefer Resurrection Remix), but if you want some aosp rom with decent amount of customisation then go for Liquid Remix or Aosip.
(In below screenshot, keep in mind that i installed the product sans font and ambient display mod
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Thanks for this long comment dude.. yeah going to try lineageos 15.1 .. No I don't like lot of customization s.. but what i want is applocks and any more.. i think lineageos best neh?
MiyuruB said:
Thanks for this long comment dude.. yeah going to try lineageos 15.1 .. No I don't like lot of customization s.. but what i want is applocks and any more.. i think lineageos best neh?
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App lock isn't present in Privacy Guard, unfortunately i was bummed too
Pixel experience was good but now not.
Nougat:
1. RR 5.8.5 by Alexey711
2. AOKP
3. Official Lineage OS
Oreo
1. Nitrogen OS
2. Pixel Experience by Alexey711
3. Lineage OS
4. RR 6.0.0 by Adesh15
RR 5.8.5 by Alexey711
Link?
Vintagee said:
RR 5.8.5 by Alexey711
Link?
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Check the Resurrection Remix thread. You can find it there.
Hi guys! I am making this thread so that we could have a place to tell the community which is the most satisfying ROM and kernel in our opinion and experience that you have used or most probably are using right now. Guys it would be really helpful if you share what qualities make that ROM or kernel most satisfying in your opinion like bb or performance or something unique about that ROM or kernel. Guys I welcome you to share any special settings (ROM or ka) you have done to achieve that satisfaction. So guys do share and help the community and show gratitude to respective developers as well .....
Thank You!
My choice is crdroid nougat official with stock kernel. Super stable and nice bb for my usage. I'm using it right now. No special settings. Just extreme battery saver all the time.
I think that the combination ofofficial RRos nougat and beacon kernel is very stable. I'm using it right now
I haven't used many ROMs but the most satisfying ROM for me is Viper Coral [nouget ]. Its butter smooth and best batter backup. It also doesn't have slow charging problem unlike other Oreo ROMs . It take only 2-2.5 hours to complete charge the device. Since I am not a Jio user I don't know about volte.
for me it's the viper os coral 3.1.1 final by impulsar it even shows certified in device status in play store , it's the most stable rom for me gr8 bb no volte issue nothing it's the best with stock kernel & also with beacon
Both vipers are great I.e. impulsar's and dinesh's both are certified in play store
Unofficial CrDroid by difr
Extreme performance!
Yup.. True.. Extreme performance.. Butter smooth, excellent multitasking possibilities. Good battery backup (but not the best), but wen compared to performance, this is more than sufficient.. Excellent work by developer.. Kudos..
liquid remix, stock kernel.
I am very pleased with AEX 4.6 and the Spicey Kernel. Great battery backup, responsiveness and performance, GCamMod and everything else is working. The only downside is that it is not actively maintained anymore, so no new security updates. As I had several problems with Oreo ROMs and their GAPPS, I hope that the developers will iron out these issues to make the switch sometime in the future (the unofficial crDroid build was promising, but GAPPS didn't work there for me).
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I am very pleased with AEX 4.6 and the Spicey Kernel. Great battery backup, responsiveness and performance, GCamMod and everything else is working. The only downside is that it is not actively maintained anymore, so no new security updates. As I had several problems with Oreo ROMs and their GAPPS, I hope that the developers will iron out these issues to make the switch sometime in the future (the unofficial crDroid build was promising, but GAPPS didn't work there for me).
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Why? Is there any issue when you were using oreo GApps?
I'm using Oreo and Nano GApps right now, it runs normally without any issue
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Why? Is there any issue when you were using oreo GApps?
I'm using Oreo and Nano GApps right now, it runs normally without any issue
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Yes, I had issues with the 8.1 April 1st release (pico and nano) from opengapps.org. I first flashed the ROM, rebooted and then flashed GAPPS and I got "play services stopped" as soon as I try to setup my device. And as I did mention in the other posts, I've tried other ROMs and TWRPs as well with the same reproducible result and ran out of options there. Hence I got back to AEX 4.6 and even flashing it together with GAPPS went without problems wheras I get bootloops if I flash them together with Oreo ROMs.
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Yes, I had issues with the 8.1 April 1st release (pico and nano) from opengapps.org. I first flashed the ROM, rebooted and then flashed GAPPS and I got "play services stopped" as soon as I try to setup my device. And as I did mention in the other posts, I've tried other ROMs and TWRPs as well with the same reproducible result and ran out of options there. Hence I got back to AEX 4.6 and even flashing it together with GAPPS went without problems wheras I get bootloops if I flash them together with Oreo ROMs.
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I have exactly the same issue and cannot use any Oreo rom beacause of that...
Can someone tell us which working version of oreo Gapps to use? I tried yesterdy with april 14th release and the bug is still there.
Manzing said:
I have exactly the same issue and cannot use any Oreo rom beacause of that...
Can someone tell us which working version of oreo Gapps to use? I tried yesterdy with april 14th release and the bug is still there.
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I did try even older ones from December, but that did not work as well. Look overe here in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-3s/help/flash-oreo-roms-t3743439/page4
Some people found a solution which worked for them, but I haven't tried them myself yet.
Bootleggers and unofficial crdroid by difr
I have used many custom roms with stock and beacon combo (excluding treble as beacon for treble is not out yet)
I vote for Bootleggers ROM.
It's a complete package with 99.9% pure android bug-less experience. All features work flawlessly. Best thing about this rom is Battery Backup. it's amazing, a LOT more compared to any other rom be it Nitrogen RR Firehound Cr AEX LiquidRemix Viper PixelExperience MIUI etc. I have tried them all but finally Bootleggers compelled me to stick with it for Battery Backup and almost NO bugs.
My latest choice - AEX oreo build by Woivod
AEX oreo build by Woivod, hands down.
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AEX oreo build by Woivod, hands down.
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+1
CR droid by diffr (14042018) - best performance, great battery, fast charging (1950 mA), mostly stable, No heating issue, Best gaming performance.