Hi all,
I have 2 Yotaphones 2 (one for private use, one company). Great devises, especially the business use. Now my son's birthday is coming up and he wants a Yotaphone, too (no iPhone! . Does anyone know what happened to the yotaphone 3? It was announced to be released in Q1 this year in cooperation with ZTE to increase availability and reduce price. Since then (Q3 2015), nothing has happened.
Does anyone know more?
Cheers
Andreas
Grimus07 said:
Hi all,
I have 2 Yotaphones 2 (one for private use, one company). Great devises, especially the business use. Now my son's birthday is coming up and he wants a Yotaphone, too (no iPhone! . Does anyone know what happened to the yotaphone 3? It was announced to be released in Q1 this year in cooperation with ZTE to increase availability and reduce price. Since then (Q3 2015), nothing has happened.
Does anyone know more?
Cheers
Andreas
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Based on a few Russian articles I found, it would seem that their new Chinese overlords were not willing to take the risk launching Yotaphone 3 during the original Summer of 2016 launch window. And now that the window has closed, so they have to renew the device specs to match the market. The new estimate would be Summer of 2017 earliest.
Source: http://izvestia.ru/news/632694 (you can get the main idea with Google Translate)
It was confirmed by yota that it's in development. Probably it will be available this year (2017)
The Instagram account of Yota Devices unexpectedly displayed a new post in early march mentioning the 3rd generation of their device :
https://www.slashgear.com/the-yotaphone-3-is-still-coming-or-so-it-seems-06477241/
That's all we get since the time they abruptly went in silent service.
A five inch colour e-ink screen would truly be aweinspiring
With latest news it seems that Chinese stakeholders don't want to put their money for the launching of YotaPhone 3 as of now (which russians have already developed-designed). Hence, postponing its launch obliges YotaDevices to re-do from scratch the designed YotaPhone 3, because hardware components become old rapidly.
Yesterday I saw a YD206 for 95€ on AliExpress and I think it's worth it, expecially with the MM update coming out.
Do you guys know what the teaser on the website is about? Could it really be the Yotaphone 3? I honestly didn't expect that any more.
https://yotaphone.com/ru-ru/
Waiting for Yotaphone 3 Hisense annunce A2 Ace, i find some information on the web and wrote here.
rien-ne-va-plus said:
Do you guys know what the teaser on the website is about? Could it really be the Yotaphone 3? I honestly didn't expect that any more.
https://yotaphone.com/ru-ru/
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It's about YotaPhone 3 for sure: one of the articles about it
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It's about YotaPhone 3 for sure: one of the articles about it
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I'm sorry but that's hardly an article - it just guesses and adds no information to what I wrote above.
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Waiting for Yotaphone 3 Hisense annunce A2 Ace, i find some information on the web and wrote here.
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There have been a number of rumors around other dual screen phones, none of which I've seen on the market yet. At some point even the Xiami Mi4 was supposed to come with dual screen...
at youtube - hisense a2 at ces 2017
seeing their EPD, got ghosting and black is still "gray". maybe later they will improve it.
for me compare to yotaphone 2 more better but until MM update.. more ghosting..
but for yotaphone 3 teaser image, shape nearly same with hisense a2..
Ok, so the design of yota3 is kind of iphonenish...
here are some related posts
https://mixom.by/news/rassekrecheni-izobrajeniya-yotaphone-3
https://twitter.com/search?q=#YotaPhone3
http://andro-news.com/news/yotaphone-3-yota-3-na-oficialnyh-press-renderah.html
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4xLUYriP..._f1078e9398ac44069e28519e90fee764+%281%29.jpg
Does it have back lighting as new kindles?
Finally we see it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csdJ6rHH59w
4GB of RAM, and hte other specs as we commented before
I like it!
Hi all,
https://youtu.be/E1sYIb1AHE4
and
https://youtu.be/wrdvLOgRaP4
Competition:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...-Core-LTE-4G-5-5-Inch-Double/32807157386.html
Found a site that ships Y3 to US (for $650).
https://www.cect-shop.com/en/yota-y...-octa-core-2-0ghz-4g-lte-android-o-v2953.html
and on Ebay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/YotaPhone-...var=492358420547&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Just got the Yotaphone 3 as a gift. Has dual SIM slots (2nd SIM doubles as a TF card).
I can install Google package from it's appstore BUT can't get contact to sync with Google; Google contact apps doesn't work properly.
The 2nd screen only works with Kindle China version only (can log in with US account).
Overall an intriguing phone but not practical for me unless there's a non-China version.
I just received the hisense a2 from China here in United States. And. It seems to work quite well on att with the option to mirror full android on eink. If you cannot mirror the main screen on the eink screen in yp3 this is a mistake in the software design. Yp2 offered full android on the eink side In their latest russian firmware.
I have just bought the Yotaphone 3, however I can't mirror the main screen onto the eink screen of my Yota 3. I have the Yotaphone 2, so would there by a way to port the Yotahub/Yotacover/Yotapanel apps from the 2 to the 3? Also, all the instructions are in Chinese which is slightly annoying. Do you think the mirroring function would be added later by an update? Thanks
Possible YP3 Changes.
Depends on if the same developers (as YP2) are responsible for the updates in YP3 (HK).
In YP2, they prioritized RU versions (not the HK version). But some of the firmware changes/useful addons over time were significant with EU/HK and especially RU.
With the new CN/RU partnership, who knows. I am waiting until someone (preferably in English) demonstrates a good software update with YP3 (and a decrease in price) before pulling the trigger.
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Hello, when projecting anything from my phone to Samsung Smart TV, only the upper half of the screen is rendered correctly. The lower half is scrambled/green , pixelated and full of artifacts, no matter the phone is in portrait or landscape.
My Smart TV is flawless with Mate 7, Samsung Tab S 10.5 or Asus Zenfone 6 when using Mirror Share.
Previously on Marshmallow 6.0 MirrorShare worked without problems with my Huawei P9plus .
On my friend's Huawei P9plus, identical with mine and with similar Samsung smart TV, the problem is absolutely the same.
Huawei, please fix this major problem as soon as possible.
My phone : VIE-L09C432B360, unrooted.
Have you found a solution to this? Mine does the same and I can't find a similar topic anywhere else. It's very annoying as worked perfectly before
I hope Huawei read this forum and make things working properly. Don't try to mess your phone/root/reset , at least I don't. If Huawei want to be number three, two or the best brand in smartphone industry they must read and solve customers complaints. Sadly, every brand have some (major) flaws, for me Huawei is the best compromise. Until...
PS: I had a problem with mirror sharing (Huawei Mate 7, veeery slow speed, almost unusable ) in the past but it was resolved after the last update and now it works okay .
Huawei, please do your homework properly to be number one !
Easy come, easy go and upset clients sometimes don't come back.
Mine is VIE-L29C636B370 currently.
Tried on my Samsung (Smart)TV for MirrorShare feature and does not seem to have issues.
There's around half second to one second delay in pushing the display to the TV though. "Seemingly" slower than before update (because I never really measured the time previously).
Then is a bug for single sim international version VIE-L09C432B360. Before Nougat, on Marshmallow my P9plus mirror share function was without issues(I used it frequently) . Now I have to use my Samsung Tab S 10.5 tablet for mirror sharing so please Huawei do your homework and respect your clients, I paid 700 Euros last year in July for your product.
After last update to android 7 my mirrorShare feature is casting the screen to a samsung tv with half of the screen is totally green . Before the update everything was working fine.
I search the case and found many people asking the same question with no answers yet. Any Help ?
Sadly after yesterday's update to B370 (from B360) mirror share is the same, flawed with half screen bug.
Huawei, please fix this major problem, please !
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Discover the same bug in my p9 B386
Actually hostpot (wifi share) don't work
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After last update to android 7 my mirrorShare feature is casting the screen to a samsung tv with half of the screen is totally green . Before the update everything was working fine.
I search the case and found many people asking the same question with no answers yet. Any Help ?
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Any resolution guyz ?
Huawei don't care about us. Probably this is my last new, full price Huawei "flagship" smartphone.
Same problem on an Honor 8 with Android 7
+1 P9 B386
I wonder if this problem exist on P10/plus, Mate 9 or other newer Huawei phones.
Updated to B376 today (OTA) but the bug still here.
Probably my next phone will be another brand, Sony Xperia or...
I've got a P9 and a Mediapad M3 and only shows to top of the screen as well while connecting to Samsung tv. A Galaxy Tab3 doesn't have this problem.
Same problem with my huawei P9, running B391 firmware!
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Then is a bug for single sim international version VIE-L09C432B360. Before Nougat, on Marshmallow my P9plus mirror share function was without issues(I used it frequently) . Now I have to use my Samsung Tab S 10.5 tablet for mirror sharing so please Huawei do your homework and respect your clients, I paid 700 Euros last year in July for your product.
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The same problem...I thought it was just a samsung bug..:crying:
+1 same problem Huawei P9 Plus, latest Nov 2017 update VIE-L09C432B378 talking to a 2013 Samsung Fully Patched HD SmartTV. Annoying.
same prob in vie-l29c185b390 march
well done huawei ...................................................
I thought I was the only one with this kind of issue. It's really annoying because I always use mirrorsharing! I went back to were I bought it since I thought that the problem was the unit. They changed it with a brand new phone but the mirroshare still won't work!
Hello Guys,
I’m considering buying Huawei 10 (NOT Pro), but since it’s not officially available in the countries I spend most my time in (Poland and UK), I’ll have to get it from Chinese shop. Having said that, I have my concerns and I’d be glad if you could walk me through them. My apologies if some on those questions were already answered, but some of the feedback I’ve gather from this forum come from the “early days” of this phone and I don’t know if they are still valid. Let’s get to it:
1) Is the system in Polish language? It might be under “(…) and many more languages” but I’d like to know
2) I should be looking for version L29, correct? Are those “international” versions on sites like https://www.giztop.com/huawei-mate-10.html really international, or just Chinese ones with switched software?
3) My current phone is Oneplus 3 – and I admire the simplicity of almost-stock Android. How much off a detour is MIUI in comparison? Will I have to deal with a lot of bloating in the system?
4) Since there won’t be a version for “big” markets like US and UK – could there be any issues with updates? Will Huawei abandon the support for international version anytime soon – speculatively speaking? Or is it possible for them to introduce this phone to US/UK/PL, but later?
5) I’d be taking 4gb 64gb version, but I’ve been using 6gb phone for a while now – will this “downgrade” be visible in daily use?
6) I’ve seen some complaints about the camera. I understand it’s not “perfect”, but right now I’m using oneplus3+g.cam port from Pixel 2 – so I should still experience a bump in quality, right?
7) I want to buy it from this site https://www.giztop.com/huawei-mate-10.html. Is there any reason I should pick a different one/wait?
Thank you for all your future answers, and apologies for a longer post.
Cheers!
I'm in a similar situation. I'm planning to buy from eBay the international version. The sellers there are based in either France or Ireland, they say they give you a year warranty but crucially you have PayPal protection.
I've seen other sites where a minority of phones never turn up or are broken and it's incredibly hard to get the money back.
DeadOne said:
Hello Guys,
I’m considering buying Huawei 10 (NOT Pro), but since it’s not officially available in the countries I spend most my time in (Poland and UK), I’ll have to get it from Chinese shop. Having said that, I have my concerns and I’d be glad if you could walk me through them. My apologies if some on those questions were already answered, but some of the feedback I’ve gather from this forum come from the “early days” of this phone and I don’t know if they are still valid. Let’s get to it:
1) Is the system in Polish language? It might be under “(…) and many more languages” but I’d like to know
2) I should be looking for version L29, correct? Are those “international” versions on sites like https://www.giztop.com/huawei-mate-10.html really international, or just Chinese ones with switched software?
3) My current phone is Oneplus 3 – and I admire the simplicity of almost-stock Android. How much off a detour is MIUI in comparison? Will I have to deal with a lot of bloating in the system?
4) Since there won’t be a version for “big” markets like US and UK – could there be any issues with updates? Will Huawei abandon the support for international version anytime soon – speculatively speaking? Or is it possible for them to introduce this phone to US/UK/PL, but later?
5) I’d be taking 4gb 64gb version, but I’ve been using 6gb phone for a while now – will this “downgrade” be visible in daily use?
6) I’ve seen some complaints about the camera. I understand it’s not “perfect”, but right now I’m using oneplus3+g.cam port from Pixel 2 – so I should still experience a bump in quality, right?
7) I want to buy it from this site https://www.giztop.com/huawei-mate-10.html. Is there any reason I should pick a different one/wait?
Thank you for all your future answers, and apologies for a longer post.
Cheers!
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1 - I don't know for sure but it should be there !
2 - Yes L29 is the version you should look for ! You can get one from here https://www.ebay.fr/itm/NEUF-HUAWEI...234857?hash=item4b2e0e4729:g:41oAAOSwytJaE9rW that's where I got one for my uncle
3 - EMUI is very customised version of Android but with big possibilities for themes so you should be able to make it look as you want
4 - We can't be sure of anything in that domain ^^ I just left Samsung because of giving update slowly... But for sure as the flagship of the brand it should get update faster than others
5 - It'll not. Some may not agree with me but 4gb of Ram is largely enough today !
6 - As I'm not a professionnal I could not tell ^^ but for sure Mate 10 camera is amazing and will only improve with software update improving AI
7 - As I answered on 2, you can get it from dwi on ebay, I've took 2 phones from them (S7 dual sim and Huawei Mate 10)
I live in the UK and I bought the L29 version, it works fine and you can select the system language when you setup the phone. The only issue I found is HiCloud wouldn't work but I rebranded to the L09 version and everything works
To answer your point 6
I'm also using a ported version of the camera app on my previous phone which is a Xiaomi Mix and the phone is notorious for its very poor camera lens.
It surprises me totally what software can achieve where the hardware fails at.
Even on the ****ty camera, the software managed to capture IMO equal or more details as compared to M10 on the pro mode.
So at the end of the day. Your OP3 having a better lens than the Xiaomi Mix should experience probably equal or maybe seeing a 5 to 10% bump in details.
If there's ever a chance that M10 could have the ported camera from Pixel on our phone I'll definitely be a very happy man.
Hi jay. I too live in the UK and planning the buy the L29. Was the re branding just to get the hicloud? Or were there other features?
Thanks
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Hi jay. I too live in the UK and planning the buy the L29. Was the re branding just to get the hicloud? Or were there other features?
Thanks
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Yeah it was just so I could use HiCloud, didn't feel like a fully functional phone without it
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Yeah it was just so I could use HiCloud, didn't feel like a fully functional phone without it
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What for this hicloud?
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What for this hicloud?
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It's backup software
Leechoonhwee said:
To answer your point 6
I'm also using a ported version of the camera app on my previous phone which is a Xiaomi Mix and the phone is notorious for its very poor camera lens.
It surprises me totally what software can achieve where the hardware fails at.
Even on the ****ty camera, the software managed to capture IMO equal or more details as compared to M10 on the pro mode.
So at the end of the day. Your OP3 having a better lens than the Xiaomi Mix should experience probably equal or maybe seeing a 5 to 10% bump in details.
If there's ever a chance that M10 could have the ported camera from Pixel on our phone I'll definitely be a very happy man.
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Here you go my friend : https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-016-174405463-android-apk-download/
It's working on my Mate 10 Pro, imo it gives a little bit less blurriness and the photo is clearer in overall, sadly it lacks some features for our phone
Give us some results about photo quality please
Regards,
Safe
Safe0716 said:
Here you go my friend : https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-016-174405463-android-apk-download/
It's working on my Mate 10 Pro, imo it gives a little bit less blurriness and the photo is clearer in overall, sadly it lacks some features for our phone
Give us some results about photo quality please
Regards,
Safe
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Thanks for the link. I'm not referring to the stock Google camera but the exact one on the pixel phone.
https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/www...gle-camera-hdr-customization-raw-support/amp/
It is the HDR+ that makes all the difference but sadly Google only enables it for the Pixel phone.
Hey sorry to jack this thread but whats the drawbacks of the Chinese version, bloat ware?? And wouldn't it get updates faster?
Also, wouldn't it be a better idea to buy the AL00.. 128 GB, 6 GB RAM Chinese Mate 10 version if you wanted to keep that 6GB of ram?
I just killed my HTC 10 with water so I'm thinking upgrading to the 6GB ram version would be a better move coming from 4GB. I just wish it wasn't so expensive lol 4GB international version is about $800 CND on ebay..
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Hey sorry to jack this thread but whats the drawbacks of the Chinese version, bloat ware?? And wouldn't it get updates faster?
Also, wouldn't it be a better idea to buy the AL00.. 128 GB, 6 GB RAM Chinese Mate 10 version if you wanted to keep that 6GB of ram?
I just killed my HTC 10 with water so I'm thinking upgrading to the 6GB ram version would be a better move coming from 4GB. I just wish it wasn't so expensive lol 4GB international version is about $800 CND on ebay..
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id like to know this too, also:
so which Huawei Mate 10 Pro 128gb version are you supposed to buy? there's L29 on ebay, L09 on clove uk website. handtec uk HM10P128TG, what's the difference between all of these? dual sim on amazon uk 128gb. L29 on wondamobile international version.
eglobal uk CN version. eglobal prices vary for 128gb version, why is that?
sorry so many questions!
essentially i'd want to root and custom rom, is there really dev support for this, I'm coming from samsung and devs have been a lot etc. im over samsung note series lol...
thx
Does anybody knows any store in USA that have Mate 10? My friend is traveling, at Orlando right now and he will bring to me. I don't know how customs works at USA so I think it's not a good idea to buy at Chinese sites
Cotinho said:
Does anybody knows any store in USA that have Mate 10? My friend is traveling, at Orlando right now and he will bring to me. I don't know how customs works at USA so I think it's not a good idea to buy at Chinese sites
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take it outta the box for customs, this way it looks like it's used. throw the box away
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Jay794 said:
I live in the UK and I bought the L29 version, it works fine and you can select the system language when you setup the phone. The only issue I found is HiCloud wouldn't work but I rebranded to the L09 version and everything works
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i live in the uk, where did you buy yours and how much? thanks
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take it outta the box for customs, this way it looks like it's used. throw the box away
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i live in the uk, where did you buy yours and how much? thanks
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I got mine from eGlobal, its was around £400 IIRC
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I got mine from eGlobal, its was around £400 IIRC
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what the difference between this and the CN? also is this the L29?
https://www.eglobalcentral.co.uk/huawei-mate-10-pro-6gb-128gb-dual-sim-mocha-gold.html
it doesn't have a version on it?
entwicklun said:
what the difference between this and the CN? also is this the L29?
https://www.eglobalcentral.co.uk/huawei-mate-10-pro-6gb-128gb-dual-sim-mocha-gold.html
it doesn't have a version on it?
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Well that's the Mate 10 Pro, not the Mate 10, the Pro does not have an SD card slot. I don't know what the CN is but the L29 I had was for the Singapore market, so Huawei Cloud didn't work until I flashed the L09 Firmware
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Well that's the Mate 10 Pro, not the Mate 10, the Pro does not have an SD card slot. I don't know what the CN is but the L29 I had was for the Singapore market, so Huawei Cloud didn't work until I flashed the L09 Firmware
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yeah I noticed it's the pro, tbh I wanted the finger scanner on the back. I'm going from a lifetime of sd card to no sd card. feel like I'd need a tutorial on how to go about that and backing up consistently lol....
think I can get away with no SD card
so how come they list an item with no model number?
also can you change the soft key buttons placements? move them into opposite spots etc lol?
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yeah I noticed it's the pro, tbh I wanted the finger scanner on the back. I'm going from a lifetime of sd card to no sd card. feel like I'd need a tutorial on how to go about that and backing up consistently lol....
think I can get away with no SD card
so how come they list an item with no model number?
also can you change the soft key buttons placements? move them into opposite spots etc lol?
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Regarding the model number, no idea maybe use the live chat and ask them lol.
Yes you can change the positions of the on screen buttons
Here are some informations from xiaomi India official Twitter
https://twitter.com/RedmiIndia/status/1147030045216526336?s=09
yes and hopefully more devs pickup the device so we can see roms dedicated for the device.
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yes and hopefully more devs pickup the device so we can see roms dedicated for the device.
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I heard that India version will be code raphealin, as they have same hardware. Do you think china version (rapheal) and India version (raphealin) will have the universal ROM package? Otherwise, can we flash rapheal to raphealin? I bought a China version before, and I'm afraid of that.
tenshikurabu said:
I heard that India version will be code raphealin, as they have same hardware. Do you think china version (rapheal) and India version (raphealin) will have the universal ROM package? Otherwise, can we flash rapheal to raphealin? I bought a China version before, and I'm afraid of that.
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I think it depends on which bands are unlocked on the phone. I don't know if India and China provider share the same bands? The mi9t has different bands unlocked then the k20.
I think that will be named as anticipated K20 Pro. but they were advertising as k20 pro so who knows. Im just sure that software development wise they'll share the same stuff
I'll wait for reviews from early adopters. I have never owned a Xiaomi device before and I am only inclined towards this because of its AMOLED panel. If the quality isn't as good as OnePlus panels or if the device has issues itself like people faced touch issues on Poco F1, I might skip it completely.
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I think it depends on which bands are unlocked on the phone. I don't know if India and China provider share the same bands? The mi9t has different bands unlocked then the k20.
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They do mostly, you can check their respective band compabilities at kimovil .dotcom
I recon there will be differences when the global version is released, but for China and India they seem to be the same.
Would post link to the website but first 10 posts rule...
SozzR said:
They do mostly, you can check their respective band compabilities at kimovil .dotcom
I recon there will be differences when the global version is released, but for China and India they seem to be the same.
Would post link to the website but first 10 posts rule...
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I've found the info on Kimovil.com to be out of date, though to be fair most sites I've looked at, which provide lte band info, are out of date. It looks like once they've added the info, they never bother to update it when carriers open up more bands on their networks. I now check the info on Wikipedia, it's more work, especially on a phone, as you have to trawl through massive tables to find the data, but the info is normally up to date.
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I've found the info on Kimovil.com to be out of date, though to be fair most sites I've looked at, which provide lte band info, are out of date. It looks like once they've added the info, they never bother to update it when carriers open up more bands on their networks. I now check the info on Wikipedia, it's more work, especially on a phone, as you have to trawl through massive tables to find the data, but the info is normally up to date.
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Thanks again for the quality information
Who's buying the Alpha sale 855 voucher ?
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Who's buying the Alpha sale 855 voucher ?
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I was initially planning to. BUT it is not a pre order. That voucher does not guarantee you early or separate or priority access for buying. And in India it will be very difficult to even buy one once it goes up for sale. It will be out of stock within seconds, thats the problem. And this Alpha sale, will only block your money in a online seller Flipkart or Mi.in . That is useless. I was atleast hoping for a separate access for those who make the payment now.
Funk Wizard said:
Who's buying the Alpha sale 855 voucher ?
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I bought it on mi website
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I was initially planning to. BUT it is not a pre order. That voucher does not guarantee you early or separate or priority access for buying. And in India it will be very difficult to even buy one once it goes up for sale. It will be out of stock within seconds, thats the problem. And this Alpha sale, will only block your money in a online seller Flipkart or Mi.in . That is useless. I was atleast hoping for a separate access for those who make the payment now.
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I HAVe just read the t&c and it says atleast incase of purchase from mi website that only the people with the access pass will be able to purchase the phone on 17th and also that if you dont complete the purchase or the validity has expired your money will be refunded
Doge199 said:
I was initially planning to. BUT it is not a pre order. That voucher does not guarantee you early or separate or priority access for buying. And in India it will be very difficult to even buy one once it goes up for sale. It will be out of stock within seconds, thats the problem. And this Alpha sale, will only block your money in a online seller Flipkart or Mi.in . That is useless. I was atleast hoping for a separate access for those who make the payment now.
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I don't think that's the case. AFAIK only people with Alpha Sale pass will be able to order a unit on the launch date 17 and 18 and all the others can do so post 23rd onwards. If this is the case everyone with the alpha pass should be able to secure a unit without any flash sale.
Let's see and wait for the launch on the 17th, I'll share my experience if I am able to get my hands on the pro :laugh:
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It got released at 28k was expecting it to be 25k. Overpriced. Hadd good expectation from this phone but ... it is better to go for One Plus 7 that has no bloatware, good UI, fast android update and no ADs
Are the adds really that annoying ?
It's been a long since I've used MIUI so asking about it. (been using OP 3T until now...which got broken recently)
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Are the adds really that annoying ?
It's been a long since I've used MIUI so asking about it. (been using OP 3T until now...which got broken recently)
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Yes it is too annoying. I bought a Redmi note 7 recently, i feel i have no control over my phone. MIUI is a s**+. This is my first time using a MIUI. You have can't even debloat your phone, unless you root it/install TWRP in it. You have to disable ads everywhere in each app individually, but still ads pop up. I faced problem of even changing default browser, music ,video player etc... Its messed up. You better stay on pure android UI device (like that of one plus/android one phones), that will make your life peaceful. I need to switch to google pixel rom in my phone.
Doge199 said:
It got released at 28k was expecting it to be 25k. Overpriced. Hadd good expectation from this phone but ... it is better to go for One Plus 7 that has no bloatware, good UI, fast android update and no ADs
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Why do you feel its overprices? I agree that K20 is overprices but I feel the K20 Pro prices are fine for the features they are offering. But I am curious to know why people think K20 Pro base variant is overprices? Just because it has MIUI or the Redmi brand has an image of being cheap and people can't digest a higher price from this brand?
And i agree, ADs should die on MIUI. It's ridiculous now.
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Why do you feel its overprices? I agree that K20 is overprices but I feel the K20 Pro prices are fine for the features they are offering. But I am curious to know why people think K20 Pro base variant is overprices? Just because it has MIUI or the Redmi brand has an image of being cheap and people can't digest a higher price from this brand?
And i agree, ADs should die on MIUI. It's ridiculous now.
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Agree with you. I was more hopeful after Pcoc F1, redmi would be targeting the mid tier .. And price aggressively like 24-25k for K20 pro and 19-20k for K20. Its only that expectation that made most of us think that it is overpriced
I booked K20 128gb 6gb varient will be getting on. 23rd
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Agree with you. I was more hopeful after Pcoc F1, redmi would be targeting the mid tier .. And price aggressively like 24-25k for K20 pro and 19-20k for K20. Its only that expectation that made most of us think that it is overpriced
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Samsung just released A80 with Snappy730G and the price is an eye-watering INR 48K. That's ridiculous.
I am sure Poco F2 won't come this year. If it does, it'd be with a 730G or 730 chipset. No way Xiaomi is releasing a competitor to K20 Pro from one of their own sub-brands.
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If anyone has an Indian K20 Pro unit, I would appreciate if you can post your initial impressions and IF this still comes with Xiaomi ads.
So I was still in the fence about getting this or the x2 pro... But eglobal have all but stopped stocking the 9t. An and the news recently that xiaomi has discontinued the phone! Wow it's not even a year old....
What gives?
The Mi10 will come out next week and be the successor of the Mi 9 series. So I advise you to wait until the next model is released, I expect a price drop on the old models.
that's the reality of buying a xiaomi phone, you should buy it within the first two months of release, or buy it a year later when the new version is released and the phone you wanted gets a price cut.
I would still buy the 9t/pro over the mi 10 or a newer phone because I don't like the notch or punch hole in the screen.
hopefuly xiaomi releases a 10t with popup camera and 120hz OLED screen later in the year (or maybe a under screen camera)
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So I was still in the fence about getting this or the x2 pro... But eglobal have all but stopped stocking the 9t. An and the news recently that xiaomi has discontinued the phone! Wow it's not even a year old....
What gives?
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This will become a norm going forward, as tech advances at a rapid pace, 1 phone model won't get a full year in the market.
Once discontinued from production, for how long Xiaomi continues to provide OTA updates?
Usually about 2 years after the sale stopped (so in total 3 years). In the second year maybe 1-3 updates, in the third 1-2. This might change with Android 10 though, as less integration work is needed for updates.
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Once discontinued from production, for how long Xiaomi continues to provide OTA updates?
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Well under Android, phones must be get a minimum of 2 major OS updates, so it shipped with Pie so we will get Android 11, after that it's up to Xiaomi if they want to continue supporting or not, most likely they won't though.
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So I was still in the fence about getting this or the x2 pro... But eglobal have all but stopped stocking the 9t. An and the news recently that xiaomi has discontinued the phone! Wow it's not even a year old....
What gives?
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I don't think it's discontinued in all regions. Still having strong sales in India atm
Is this the reason why we're stuck at a November security patch (Raphaelin)? Or am I missing something?!
Might be because of Corona virus currently, it's well possible that most employees must stay at home at the moment.
I'm looking to buy a new phone. I'm looking at OnePlus, as I want something close to Android stock.
I'm not a power user, I just want a good daily driver that will last me a few years and has a good camera.
I initially thought about the Nord 8/128 for €300. Then, I noticed the 12/256 version is at 350, and thought it might be a better option due to extra RAM and space. appvalley tutuapp tweakbox
Then, I noticed that the Oneplus 8T is at 400 for the 8/128 version, and thought about going for that even thought it's slightly out of my initial budget... but all reviews point out that it has a crappy camera.
On the other hand, all reviews I've seen say that the Nord 2 has a good camera (or, at least, it's the better out of these 3). The 8/128 version is at 400, while the 12/256 is at 440.
So, in a pure Black Friday fashion, I went from planning to buy the Nord for 300 to aiming for the Nord 2 for 440. Am I aiming correctly, or is this a mistake I'm going to regret?
Nord 2 is much better than Nord. Period. You can do own research.
Compared to 8T the camera is better. Even get better score than OP 9
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I cannot find better balanced phone than Nord 2. Reviewed OPPO, Motorola, Pixel, others OnePlus, Xiaomi, even Realme...
Few problems with being a OnePlus product and Mediatek SoC - so no easy to customize and custom ROM development. The update to Android 12 seems to bring Color OS to the phone. And seems a bit buggy, as per reports.
After almost 1 year of use rooted , very happy and stuck with latest OOS 11.3.
Edit: DN2103 12/256 bought for ~430€ on Amazon offer.
Why not the Nord 2T? The base model is only 20€ more expensive than the Nord 2 base model. I gifted it to a family member (not a power user) recently and they're very happy with it.
Also if software updates are important to you, you will get 1 more Android update on the Nord 2T vs the Nord 2.
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Why not the Nord 2T? The base model is only 20€ more expensive than the Nord 2 base model. I gifted it to a family member (not a power user) recently and they're very happy with it.
Also if software updates are important to you, you will get 1 more Android update on the Nord 2T vs the Nord 2.
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I need a second phone so I looked few models. 2T was one of them. I didn't like the Android 12 + Color OS, which came out of the box. Reviewed the sub-forum for the model here.
I am concerned about Android security updates. Unfortunately with every update OP brings new, unpolished features, imho.
I like Oxygen OS. Not sure if Color OS introduced in Android 12 update and remove fastboot mode are better decisions, regarding end users ...
About the updates when feel outdated will switch to custom ROM. We will have mature ones in few months. There is some right now, too.
Cheers.
Why not a Samsung , realme , OPPO , Vivo phone ? Oneplus isn't now what it was once time ago ... Support is ZERO since they passed resposability to indians more then that MTK is a pain for rooting or else . Look to Android 13 , it is developped and beta relesead , we don't have a stable Android 12 , yet and there aren't any signs to receive it soon . Every new update release is a real mess and one after other they missed important characteristic being all so minimal .
In my opinion , don't buy !!!
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Why not a Samsung , realme , OPPO , Vivo phone ? Oneplus isn't now what it was once time ago ... Support is ZERO since they passed resposability to indians more then that MTK is a pain for rooting or else . Look to Android 13 , it is developped and beta relesead , we don't have a stable Android 12 , yet and there aren't any signs to receive it soon . Every new update release is a real mess and one after other they missed important characteristic being all so minimal .
In my opinion , don't buy !!!
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OPPO and Realme are the same like OnePlus. Considering OPPO X3 Pro which is about 800€ now or less. Or X3 Neo ( a bit dated soc and screen ) but I am afraid that what happens with OnePlus will happens with two other brands. Realme GT2 an GT2 Pro are interesting, but as part of BBK we can expect the same. Buggy software and zero support as you stated.
About Samsung there are some not user friendly problems as I read, with the latest models, so discarded. Vivo 80 plus look great but it's price is 3x of my Nord 2.
What you really suggest to buy for 400-800€? Pixel 6? There are few review about it. Motorola Edge 30+ is now 600€. Maybe will go for it. And again, what are your suggestions? Thanks.
@ roldev : You're right , it's hard to pick one on global market phones today . We have a imense mid-range market , High-end are very expensive . What I noticed is all manufacturers have serious problems with software platforms like all specialist developpers are gone on other planets . Oppo , OnePlus , Xiaomi even Samsung released huge buggy updates beyond any understanding reasons . A few years ago there were updates tested and tested and tested and afterthat they released them by OTA or else . Today all seems to be a bunch of amateurs . It can't be right this way . Maybe all brands rushed to reveal a lot of new (but old) phones only for earn quick money to cover some market needs .
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@ roldev : You're right , it's hard to pick one on global market phones today . We have a imense mid-range market , High-end are very expensive . What I noticed is all manufacturers have serious problems with software platforms like all specialist developpers are gone on other planets . Oppo , OnePlus , Xiaomi even Samsung released huge buggy updates beyond any understanding reasons . A few years ago there were updates tested and tested and tested and afterthat they released them by OTA or else . Today all seems to be a bunch of amateurs . It can't be right this way . Maybe all brands rushed to reveal a lot of new (but old) phones only for earn quick money to cover some market needs .
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You are right. They focused on quantity and not on quality, to be more " competitive ". Investing in production and not in support.
My goal is to get a mid range phone with stable lineage os support. Hope this one will get such, despite of the Mediatek SoC.
Cheers.
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Why not the Nord 2T? The base model is only 20€ more expensive than the Nord 2 base model. I gifted it to a family member (not a power user) recently and they're very happy with it.
Also if software updates are important to you, you will get 1 more Android update on the Nord 2T vs the Nord 2.
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Nord 2T get 2 update for Android 13 & 14
Balanced device in a good price. Unfortunately, the OxygenOS updates are always very delayed. On the other hand, I have not experienced any important bug yet. For me, the ColorOS transition was successful. You can choose Nord 2T, it's slightly better.
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Balanced device in a good price. Unfortunately, the OxygenOS updates are always very delayed. On the other hand, I have not experienced any important bug yet. For me, the ColorOS transition was successful. You can choose Nord 2T, it's slightly better.
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Thank you.
ColorOS better than Oxygen OS? I hope you are right. 2T vs 2. Can you provide data? Not the marketing ones. Any benchmark or unbiased review? Newer not always means better, trust me.
1300 is rebranded 1200 with less performance.
The new firmware become more 'closed' to avoid need of support...
Two examples.
Sold my Nord 2 after two months. Far to many errors with it....
Assistant wont work from the lockscreen
Whatsapp voice message recording stops after 2 secs
Often charging only to 80% with optimized charging disabled
Bluetooth volume in car all over the place and not staying where I set it.
And also this "still on Android 11" update farce.....
Got a Xiaomi 11 T pro now which is much better value for money....
@terry_mccann maybe you got refurbished and 'tweaked' unit.
11 months with the Nord 2, here and did not face such problems, neither others.
Rock solid, stable, good performance and usability staying on oos 11 a_20.
Always update few months later to be sure that the bugs are fixed.
Despite de Mediatek SoC, there are few custom roms on active development for future. Lineage, Leos, Pixel experience, phh among others.
Even more, today bought the second Nord 2 on offer 350€ for 12/256 so I will clone 1:1 my 2 phones.
I choosed this model over OnePlus 9 pro for 660€ (12/256), Motorola Edge 30 pro (12/256) for 540€ or Motorola Edge 30 (8/128) for 360€....
The Nord 2 works well in my office with demanding workflow, in the fitness and the swimming pool, supporting some humidity even no oficial IP rating.
No bugs here. Rooted with magisk for 11 months. Hope this helps.
Cheers.
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@terry_mccann maybe you got refurbished and 'tweaked' unit.
11 months with the Nord 2, here and did not face such problems, neither others.
Rock solid, stable, good performance and usability staying on oos 11 a_20.
Always update few months later to be sure that the bugs are fixed.
Despite de Mediatek SoC, there are few custom roms on active development for future. Lineage, Leos, Pixel experience, phh among others.
Even more, today bought the second Nord 2 on offer 350€ for 12/256 so I will clone 1:1 my 2 phones.
I choosed this model over OnePlus 9 pro for 660€ (12/256), Motorola Edge 30 pro (12/256) for 540€ or Motorola Edge 30 (8/128) for 360€....
The Nord 2 works well in my office with demanding workflow, in the fitness and the swimming pool, supporting some humidity even no oficial IP rating.
No bugs here. Rooted with magisk for 11 months. Hope this helps.
Cheers.
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" Motorola Edge 30 pro (12/256) for 540€ or Motorola Edge 30 (8/128) for 360€...." , oh man , those two phone have GG3 on front and GG5 on back . In my opinion I couldn't see any stupid thing like that in history of manufacturers , it's so retarded ideea ... Despite their capabilities such of error with Corning Gorilla Glass is a real mess .
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" Motorola Edge 30 pro (12/256) for 540€ or Motorola Edge 30 (8/128) for 360€...." , oh man , those two phone have GG3 on front and GG5 on back . In my opinion I couldn't see any stupid thing like that in history of manufacturers , it's so retarded ideea ... Despite their capabilities such of error with Corning Gorilla Glass is a real mess .
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Yeah, their reason is that GC3 has better scratch resistance than GC5. So it's ok if you never drop your phone
Few bad decisions about this phone avoid it to be really good.
Really hope to have good 100% working custom ROM with easy update for the Nord 2. It's very popular and there's a lot projects...