Guys,
I owned this watch and having issue with heartrate. When I am measuring the heartrate without wearing it is giving me random heartrate. Here is the video for this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsF2DvbZSrI&feature=youtu.be
And "Ok google is working for me 2 out of 10 times"
I can't say as this is terribly shocking... first the heart rate monitors on these devices are never going to be terribly accurate... there's a number of problems inherit with the design, but they are okay for basic general use.
The sensor is designed to detect changes in your capillaries as blood is pumped and figure out heart beat rate based on that. But this is assuming there the sensor is in contact with your skin. If it isn't, there may be any number of things effect the reading. Looking at your video you were moving the watch around and at times had it positioned over different colors carpeting (it appeared). I suspect these things contributed to feeding odd data to the sensor, which it used to figure out a heart rate.
The Sensor only does what it's programmed to do and then feed the data to the software which interrupts the data assuming it's genuine.
For example: Pregnancy Tests... they tell women if she's pregnant or not... well... no, they actually don't. A pregnancy test looking for certain hormones in a woman's urine. These hormones are only produced when a woman is pregnant. The "sensor" looks for the hormones. If it finds them, it singles to the "software" in the sensor and the "software" reports to the woman: "You are pregnant!"
But here's the interesting this: If men with a certain type of cancer urinate on a pregnancy test, they will get a message saying they are pregnant! So what gives? The "sensor" saw the hormones (caused by the cancer) and feed that info to the "software" which then reported to the user: "You are pregnant!"
In the same way the heart rate sensor on the watch is getting weird bogus data that looks, for whatever reason, like heart beats. Just like the pregnancy test peed on my the guy, it assumes the data it's receiving is genuine. Then the software, just like in the pregnancy test, assumes the data it receives it genuine and reports on it.
At least this would be my best guess. I supposed I'd try to take your pulse with both the watch and manually a the same time (or nearly so) and see if they are close. If they are wildly off, then it might be a bad sensor. If they are close then I'd suspect a good sensor, just getting weird data when not on your wrist.
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Hello Everyone,
I just received my first ever "Smart Watch". The Fossil Q Founder. I purchased the leather band version. I am not really a watch person but I prefer a leather band over metal in general. I was actually due for a new watch as well being I lost my Seiko about two months ago. Other than my Q Founder the only other watch I have is my Rolex that belonged to my Grandfather. It is far to nice to wear daily though.
So, being I was in the market for a watch, I figured I may as well get a smart watch for the added functionality. It took me a while to make up my mind. It came down to the Huawei Watch and the Fossil Q Founder. The main reason I ended up going with the Q is the specs. I figured it may be a better investment with the Intel processor and 1GB of ram. I guess I was thinking it is " more future proof". I honestly preferred the design of the Q over the Huawei personally as well. The $275 price tag was just an added bonus. If only the Q had the Huawei display....
Aesthetics:
The overall build quality is very good in my opinion. The stainless steel case looks great, polished in some areas and flat in others. The finish is well executed. The leather band looks very nice as well. It appears to be made of high quality leather and the stitching should hold up for a long time. The charger even looks nice. It mimics the soft pillows found in watch boxes. The charging "disc" is slightly magnitized and lights up red while charging / blue when charged.
Performance:
The Q is very snappy. The Intel atom processor paired with 1GB of ram was clearly a good choice on Fossils part. I have yet to experience any lag. The display at 240ppi looks great. The Whites are truely White and the colors look really nice as well. I was wondering about the 240ppi. Obviously if you have the watch 4 inches from your face you can kinda see the pixels, but at a distance > 12 inches it appears very sharp. The 400mah battery should hold up well in the Q. It hasn't lasted me all day yet, but I have "Always on Display" turned on and being I have only had the Q for two days, I have been messing with it nonstop. lol. So I will update more on battery life later when it has a few more charge cycles and I am using it more normally.
Connectivity: The Q has Bluetooth 4.1 LE and WiFi. I believe the WiFi adapter in the Q only supports 2.4ghz, being it did not recognize my 5ghz network. I could be wrong though. I currently have the WiFi off because I am not sure why it is really needed. I just use it via Bluetooth with my Nexus 6. I have had zero issues with connectivity though. Once I had it paired with my Nexus 6, that was it. It always stays connected and connects instantly when powered on. I have yet to experience any type of connection issue.
Overall I feel the Q is an awesome smart watch and it is well worth the $275 for the leather or the $295 for the steel. This is all I have for now but I will update more later.
If you have any questions about the Q feel free to comment.
PS: I VERY carefully opened up the Q. I really wanted to know which Intel atom it is actually running. I couldn't find out though being the chip is covered with a metal shield. All I could see on the board was a Hynix chip, the vibration motor. It is actually very easy to get inside though. There are 4 tiny screws on the back side of the watch. Once removed, the circular housing slides right out of the watch housing. (The part with the lugs / where the band attaches) I will say that the battery is truely 400mah. The WH and V is printed on the battery. I did the math and it is exactly 400mah. Not 399, not 401, 400.
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I read an early article on the Q Founder from Android Police that stated it did have a speaker. This proved to be false. This was one of the deciding factors on my purchase of the Fossil. I was at Best Buy a couple weeks ago and was able to try on the Huawei Watch. I really liked it, and much more than my Fossil. It just seemed to fit me much better being it is not nearly as "huge" and I really liked the higher resolution AMOLED display with no "flat tire". I ended up ordering one from BH Photo being it was on sale for $300, no sales tax, and free overnight shipping. This is pretty much the same price I paid for the Fossil after tax, which I returned for a refund.
I did like the Fossil Q Founder, I really did. I just liked the Huawei Watch even more. Having owned both, I have no regrets going to the Huawei. If someone were to ask me today which to get, I would have to say the Huawei due to the display, speaker and battery life.
I got the metal band one, and the charger is the same as the leather band one, it's kind of a pain, you can't just lay it on there, but I got a Moto 360 charger, and it works perfect. I still need to try the 5GHz network.
From a traditional watch owner's perspective I really like the Founder. Its size and fit are similar to my traditional Fossil watches and I found the price to be reasonable considering the watch's specs.
What kind of battery life are you getting and if this is not your first Android Wear watch how does it compare? My first full day with the watch was about 14 hours before it powered off. I'm already looking at ways to extend my battery.
I've seen some people claiming the Moto360 charger works with the Founder and others that say it doesn't. The chargers are Qi (same as Fossil), cheep, and widely available on Amazon and Ebay so if anyone has tried it out I would love to know.
Hello everyone,
i got the leather version for Christmas and i'm pretty happy with this watch.
My batterie life is good enough for one day. After a 16h day there is round about 20% left.
I charge my watch with the fossil charger but it should work with every QI-charger.
I tried it out with the original QI-station of my LGG4 and it work.
I limited my notifications, adjusted my brightness to 1, and installed Wear Battery Stats. I am seeing a full day and then some now.
One oddity, I use the Fossil digital face and the temperature is off constantly. I can't seem to find any settings for refresh or location. Anyone else see this problem?
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Help identify the CPU
Anyone with the Q Founder have AIDA64 installed?
Go to 'System Files' and tap 'Build Properties' to view the build.prop.
Look for ro.board.platform .. This should help identify which Intel CPU is in the watch.
Post a picture of it, if possible.
Thanks.
Here you go.
Cool. Thank you.
So the SoC is a variant that sits between the unit in the Intel Edison & the z34XX Series.
This is also the first 64bit SoC in an Android Wear device.
temp wrong
Wetzel402 said:
I limited my notifications, adjusted my brightness to 1, and installed Wear Battery Stats. I am seeing a full day and then some now.
One oddity, I use the Fossil digital face and the temperature is off constantly. I can't seem to find any settings for refresh or location. Anyone else see this problem?
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I am seeing the same thing with that watch face. But the Fossil app watch settings shows it correctly.
bcas400g said:
I am seeing the same thing with that watch face. But the Fossil app watch settings shows it correctly.
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I noticed when Fossil published the Fossil Q app update a week or two ago the temperature is now accurate for me. I'm now getting full days out of the battery with anywhere from 20% to 50% battery left depending on usage and length of my day. I am happy with my purchase.
bcas400g said:
I am seeing the same thing with that watch face. But the Fossil app watch settings shows it correctly.
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Yeah, I noticed the temperature issues as well and it is annoying as hell. I live in europe, so I want to see celsius degrees and the digital watch face
is either completely off or shows fahrenheit. On the classic watch face the scale is USELESS. If you set the temperature to celsius the scale goes from +40 to -20.
An information in digital is here way better. An analog scale looks good - i give you that - but if you want a quick information, you are looking in the wrong place.
And it goes on: The classic watch face changes often by itself from celsius to fahrenheit and when you want to change it back in the settings you have to do it
several times or juggle around with the other indicators. I contacted fossil via twitter and email and got ZERO answer to my feedback and my wish for a obviously needed
software update.
I like the looks of the watch, it does its job. The battery life is worse than on the huawei, the g watch r and the moto 360 2nd but the most annoying issues are the ones emntioned above.
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Dito13 said:
Yeah, I noticed the temperature issues as well and it is annoying as hell. I live in europe, so I want to see celsius degrees and the digital watch face
is either completely off or shows fahrenheit. On the classic watch face the scale is USELESS. If you set the temperature to celsius the scale goes from +40 to -20.
An information in digital is here way better. An analog scale looks good - i give you that - but if you want a quick information, you are looking in the wrong place.
And it goes on: The classic watch face changes often by itself from celsius to fahrenheit and when you want to change it back in the settings you have to do it
several times or juggle around with the other indicators. I contacted fossil via twitter and email and got ZERO answer to my feedback and my wish for a obviously needed
software update.
I like the looks of the watch, it does its job. The battery life is worse than on the huawei, the g watch r and the moto 360 2nd but the most annoying issues are the ones emntioned above.
/rant end.
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My temperature was good for quite a while after Fossil updated the Fossil Q app but it is now stuck again.
I would like to see an option for the classic watch face to show the weather digital. I would also like to see options to show more info in ambient mode (like temp).
Regarding the battery life, it is decent but I am hoping that an Android Wear update is released with optimizations for the Intel chip set.
I will forward this thread to Fossil. Hopefully this will speed up the process.
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I will forward this thread to Fossil. Hopefully this will speed up the process.
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With any luck they will read it but I'm not going to hold my breath. It would be great to see one of their software engineers get on XDA to discuss features and improvements.
They answered right away that they will forward this thread to their android development division. I hope that a software update will change some of the points discussed here to the better. It would be quite brash to throw a product on the market with quite a number of teething troubles and just leaving it at that.
... but it did happen quite so often in the past
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They answered right away that they will forward this thread to their android development division. I hope that a software update will change some of the points discussed here to the better. It would be quite brash to throw a product on the market with quite a number of teething troubles and just leaving it at that.
... but it did happen quite so often in the past
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Impressive. Thank you.
Hopefully we see something come of it.
I have noted that each time my weather temperature gets stuck my battery also drains rapidly. I believe there is a bug there needed to be squashed.
My observation is that the battery runs a lot longer after I turned the watch off for some time. I don't do this normally but I noticed it right away. Maybe there is some overflow issue
Amazon app on fossil q
Had mine since Christmas, anybody have a problem with amazon app? Mine always says needs update, then it says updating but nothing ever happens. I contacted fossil but they say to contact amazon and they haven't had much advice. Tried the usual uninstall and reinstall on phone, restart everything yada yada yada. If no fix, anyone know how I can just remove app from with and not phone?
Thanks
Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but I can't find a good place.
As it is I've been after an Android Ware watch for several years but just can't tolerate the idea of my wrist emitting light (it's a personal hangup), so have been after a "Transflective" smart watch (such as the Pebble or Amazfit) that runs Android Ware. From what I can tell the Fossil Q Founder is the best contender but I'm finding it very difficult to actually get an idea of how well the transflective display works as all the photos and most of the videos always show the watch with the screen active. Is it even possible to use the watch exclusively in reflective (that is non-back lit mode) like a regular digital watch such as an old school Casio and only have it "light up" when one actively interacts with it? It's an odd hangup but I just can't abide by the idea of my watch lighting up if I swing the steering wheel over while I'm driving or whatever. I also don't want my watch showing a completely black face (like the Apple Watch does) most of the time and coming to life when one gestures it to.
Basically I want it to function as a regular old fashioned digital watch 95% of the time and only give away that it's "smart" when I actively interact with it. Is this achievable with this watch?
S.Bartfast said:
Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but I can't find a good place.
As it is I've been after an Android Ware watch for several years but just can't tolerate the idea of my wrist emitting light (it's a personal hangup), so have been after a "Transflective" smart watch (such as the Pebble or Amazfit) that runs Android Ware. From what I can tell the Fossil Q Founder is the best contender but I'm finding it very difficult to actually get an idea of how well the transflective display works as all the photos and most of the videos always show the watch with the screen active. Is it even possible to use the watch exclusively in reflective (that is non-back lit mode) like a regular digital watch such as an old school Casio and only have it "light up" when one actively interacts with it? It's an odd hangup but I just can't abide by the idea of my watch lighting up if I swing the steering wheel over while I'm driving or whatever. I also don't want my watch showing a completely black face (like the Apple Watch does) most of the time and coming to life when one gestures it to.
Basically I want it to function as a regular old fashioned digital watch 95% of the time and only give away that it's "smart" when I actively interact with it. Is this achievable with this watch?
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Is there a solution to turn off backlight display
The child friendly app Kid's Corner is really great for controlling and containing your childs tablet use. It has one major deal-breaking drawback though in it's "health" forcing methods: It forces the child to sit in certain poisitions with a certain distance and under certain light conditions, otherwise a little teddy bear appears with a ringing noise, prompting the child to take action. That all sounds fine, but it's really not.
Problem with this, is that the light sensing is way, way to sensitive. Under all but the brightest conditions, this teddy bear will appear as an overlay non-stop, prompting the child to move to a more bright environment, effectively making any usage all but impossible. This makes Kids corner in my house only workable next to windows during daytime! I'm at a loss as to how this feature is not controllable by parents in any way and has passed any kind of quality control. Huewei support ackowledges the problem, but says tuning or turning off the feature is not possible.
What am I to do? I've tried turning off the "draw over other apps" permission, but that simply makes Kid's Corner crash whenever the teddy bear was supposed to be drawn. Any suggestions?
Unfortunately, I'm unable to offer a solution. I can however confirm the issue, the Kids Corner is truly useless due to these hardcoded "health features". I'm not sure how it's healthier for my child to sit underneath a bright spotlight.
Same problem for me
Hello, I have the same problem and I can not use this app. Yet I like it. I search long time for deactivated light sensor.
I'm actually utilizing a Pixel 3a and am having a similar issue I generally have during this season (winter). The warmed air dries everything out, including my skin, things are staticky, and so on and the unique finger impression peruser on the stopping boards functioning admirably, if by any means. Now and then I can record another print and make it work once more, yet frequently I need to return to opening with an example which is a PITA contrasted with the peruser while it's working! Different seasons it works extraordinary.
I'm mindful of the early issues with the in-screen peruser on the P6, however overall has it been reliably dependable once it begins working? There must be some other people who have seen comparative issues to what exactly I'm going through. A more dependable peruser could place me into a P6 in spite of the fact that I could in any case stand by to check whether a P6a appears.
Can someone explain why the compass of EVERY android phone I have ever owned has sucked? From a cheap HTC Aria to an uber-expensive S23U? Specifically, the compass seems to require re-calibration very frequently. For example, if you ask for walking directions in gmaps on an iPhone, the blue cone indicating the direction of motion is always correct and pointing in the appropriate direction. On every android phone I have owned it is frequently grossly off without calibration, sometimes by as much as 180 degrees. This affects the usability of the phone in augmented reality apps, whether it is hiking, figuring out where the sun is going to rise or set, where the milky way is going to be, etc. And even after the compass is calibrated it tends to drift for a few minutes after calibration, and cannot be trusted for critical use, for example "is the sun going to set between these two spires over there".
There may be regional magnetic anomalies.
blackhawk said:
There may be regional magnetic anomalies.
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Why has my wife's iphone never suffered then?
GroovyGeek said:
Why has my wife's iphone never suffered then?
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You probably shouldn't have swallowed those magnetic balls as a kid?
Borrow your wife's iPhone?
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Why has my wife's iphone never suffered then?
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Because different phones different problems? Report it on samsung members app with some proof
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You probably shouldn't have swallowed those magnetic balls as a kid?
Borrow your wife's iPhone?
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That could have been somewhat funny if it even peripherally addressed the question.
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There may be regional magnetic anomalies.
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OMG, do you mean Tycho Magnetic Anomaly 1?
My experience also. Have owned almost every iPhone model and the compass has always been flawless. Recently spent a week in Gran Canaria and used Google Maps on my S23 ultra for hours everyday. The compass was almost way off all the time. Calibration could help a minute and the it was off again.
The wife's and kids iPhones of course worked perfectly. I had to swallow my pride and ask them for direction a lot of times Love the phone but the compass is really a disaster most of the times
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That could have been somewhat funny if it even peripherally addressed the question.
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Couldn't resist
Using the phone is poor plan anyway if your navigation depends on it in remote areas.
Get a military compass; KISS.
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Couldn't resist
Using the phone is poor plan anyway if your navigation depends on it in remote areas.
Get a military compass; KISS.
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Fair. But what about walking in the city? Surely I should not have to carry a military compass in order to decide which way gmaps directions are sending me.
GroovyGeek said:
Fair. But what about walking in the city? Surely I should not have to carry a military compass in order to decide which way gmaps directions are sending me.
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You can gauge NS/EW direction by streets, landmarks or the rising/setting sun. After a time it becomes second nature. Use anything at hand that works including distant sounds.
Or simply use gps plus maps. I navigated for decades using only maps and cross highways, roads, streets etc to determine my location and direction. Didn't use a compass; formed a rough idea of north using the map and/or visual clues. Today it's so simple to do many don't have basic map or navigation skills anymore. Getting lost means you get by the seat of your pants navigational training... try that in Boston
easycure197401 said:
My experience also. Have owned almost every iPhone model and the compass has always been flawless. Recently spent a week in Gran Canaria and used Google Maps on my S23 ultra for hours everyday. The compass was almost way off all the time. Calibration could help a minute and the it was off again.
The wife's and kids iPhones of course worked perfectly. I had to swallow my pride and ask them for direction a lot of times Love the phone but the compass is really a disaster most of the times
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I am guessin it's not the S23U's fault since ALL Android phones do it. Suggests that the screwup is at the OS level
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I am guessin it's not the S23U's fault since ALL Android phones do it. Suggests that the screwup is at the OS level
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The compass works smooth and true on my N10+ except in the present of magnetic anomalies. Maybe iPhone is using GPS
GroovyGeek said:
Can someone explain why the compass of EVERY android phone I have ever owned has sucked? From a cheap HTC Aria to an uber-expensive S23U? Specifically, the compass seems to require re-calibration very frequently. For example, if you ask for walking directions in gmaps on an iPhone, the blue cone indicating the direction of motion is always correct and pointing in the appropriate direction. On every android phone I have owned it is frequently grossly off without calibration, sometimes by as much as 180 degrees. This affects the usability of the phone in augmented reality apps, whether it is hiking, figuring out where the sun is going to rise or set, where the milky way is going to be, etc. And even after the compass is calibrated it tends to drift for a few minutes after calibration, and cannot be trusted for critical use, for example "is the sun going to set between these two spires over there".
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iPhones use a different sensor and calibration method that does not require the user to draw a figure-eight. Instead, the iPhone's calibration process is automatic and continuously adjusts the sensor's readings based on the phone's movement and orientation. Don't ask me why, in 2023, Samsung's flagship still requires drawing a figure-eight to recalibrate its sensor almost every single time, while my iPhone does it automatically. It's just ridiculous.
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iPhones use a different sensor and calibration method that does not require the user to draw a figure-eight. Instead, the iPhone's calibration process is automatic and continuously adjusts the sensor's readings based on the phone's movement and orientation. Don't ask me why, in 2023, Samsung's flagship still requires drawing a figure-eight to recalibrate its sensor almost every single time, while my iPhone does it automatically. It's just ridiculous.
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That's not the magnetic compass. I normally don't need to calibrate that but I only have one game that uses those sensors (might be the orientation sensor, there are several). My Samsung is very well behaved and predictable... likely a 3rd party app that's mucking yours up.
DevChek is handy for seeing and checking sensors.
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That's not the magnetic compass. I normally don't need to calibrate that but I only have one game that uses those sensors (might be the orientation sensor, there are several). My Samsung is very well behaved and predictable... likely a 3rd party app that's mucking yours up.
DevChek is handy for seeing and checking sensors.
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Certainly not my experience. I have seen the compass on Android off by as much as 180 degrees, and without calibration is almost.alaays off by around 45 degrees. Calibrating it makes it true... till next. Time you shut off the screen after which the figure 8 song and dance needs to be repeated.
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Certainly not my experience. I have seen the compass on Android off by as much as 180 degrees, and without calibration is almost.alaays off by around 45 degrees. Calibrating it makes it true... till next. Time you shut off the screen after which the figure 8 song and dance needs to be repeated.
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Don't see that but I rarely use it. Not sure what the calibration suppose to do unless there's nearby ferrous metal.
I have to add... in a city with lots of tall metal buildings, I often have trouble getting the figure 8 to do anything anyway.
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I have to add... in a city with lots of tall metal buildings, I often have trouble getting the figure 8 to do anything anyway.
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Yeah if bracketed by dense ferrous metal it will screw it up. It's pointless to calibrate in that case.
I can get pretty near to heavy trucks, in a large metal building and it's still fairly accurate.
However if I put in between two upright thick 8 inch C channels about 2 feet apart it goes way off by 45°.