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Ok guys, my friend's Note 10.1 got in a bootloop and he asked me to fix it for him, as it will be with me for a few days and I've already fixed it I decided to do a comparison, feel free to ask for my opinion on things I don't mention.
First off I guess I'll start with the ports
On the left side there's nothing on the Note while on our Nexus we have the Micro USB port and the 3.5mm headphone jack, on the right side we have the micro HDMI out, the note doesn't have anything on this side either.
At the bottom we find the pogo charger on the N10 and the charger/USB/MHL port in the Note, the S Pen is located in the right bottom corner, there's a Mic located at the bottom in both of them.
At the top we find the volume rocker and the power/lock key while on the Note we find those along with an IR blaster and a Holy Micro SD card slot (god damn it google)
It's also worth noting that the Note doesn't have NFC.
This is subjective but the tacky back and sides of the Nexus make it far easier to hold and it feels solider., the glossy back on the Note doesn't feel nearly as bad as I thought it would.
The speakers
I didn't think I would write anything about these but after some use I noticed the speakers on the Note sound better, this must be thanks to Samsung's tuning, as I'm almost completely sure these devices share the same hardwarein this area, perhaps we can copy it?
Oh and by the way the Note has different sound profiles on the video player and Music app, all of them sound better but this isn't limited to these apps, the difference is found across all apps, launch Youtube or third party music players and you'll notice it.
I'll talk about the performance without bringing the benchmarks here as you can find those everywhere else, for this test I´ll be comparing my sister's N10 (which isn't rooted and is completely stock) with the stock Note.
The Note is running 4.1.2 while my sister's N10 is running 4.2.2, I'll start by clearing all recents and closing everything with the task manager on the Note
Scrolling across the homescreens and the app drawer is really smooth on both however there are micro lags on the Note - Disregard that, I had one update left and wehn I did it it got rid of the micro lags while this doesn't happen on the Nexus, I suspect this is the launcher's fault tough.
Launching apps happens at pretty much the exact same time most o the time, the Nexus is faster by fraction of a second some times.
The note does have more free RAM all of the time as it's GPU doesn't need as much of it as the on the N10, It can use as much as 1.78gbs of it while we can only use 1.2gbs
For the browser comparison I'll be using chrome beta on both, all browsing data has been cleared. I can compare the AOSP browser performance but I'd have to use my N10.
I'll just say that the sites load faster the Nexus, after that the browser experience is pretty much the same until you pinch to zoom which brings us to the screen section.
Edit: The S Pen is really useful when browsing as it can act as a mouse when you hover on website dropdown menus and the like.
The screens
This is probably where the biggest differences can be seen (as long as we don't talk about touchwiz), coming from the Nexus 10 you'll inmediately see the jagginess and lack of detail every f*cking where in the Note, from HD videos to text to images, sadly, this is the only thing the Nexus has going for it in the screen department.
The Note has a MUCH, MUCH better color reproduction, the next time I get my hands on my dad's iPad 3 I'll update this to tell you about a comparison between those 2 screens, I think the iPad looks better though.
Not only that but Samsung has also provided it with color modes which are a good thing to have, black levels between the N10 and the Note are comparable they are maybe a little darker in the note HOWEVER I've noticed the Nexus has a better black level (I believe that's how it's called, for reference go here www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php) The note has trouble with the darker tones.
The screen on the note is far far more responsive than the one in the Nexus I beleieve this is a software issues icause on purpose in the Nexus, do the following:
Open the your favorite broswer and make your thumb and index finger touch each other as when you prepare to pinch to zoom, now, with both fingers together start the pinch gesture, you'll notice how the Nexus will NOT begin to pinch to zoom until your fingers are about 1/3" apart from each other, This isn't a hardware issue as if you enable the show touches option in developer setting yo ucan see the device is registering both of them.
Now download and install the Quickpic gallery app from the Play store and pinch to zoom the same way in there, you'll see how that app behaves, the is the way the Note/HP Touchpad/iPad behave when you pinch to zoom in them.
Edit: I forgot to mention that the Note doesn't have any kind of backlight bleed.
The camera
Well, while the Samsung camera app offers many more options than the stock 4.2 camera.for some reason it takes longer to focus and the pictures are NEVER even close to the quality the N10 offers, the pictures are just terrible, I think this is the same sensor as the one in the N10 but for some reason the pictures are full of noise and lack detail.
The front facing camera is just as good as the one in the N10, Hell, I think it's better than the rear facing one, and like in the Nexus, it's one of the best front facing cameras I've seen. (It's miles ahead of the iPad)
Well, that's all I can think of at the moment, feel free to ask about other differences.
Have you done any gaming on the note 10.1? I am especially interested in hearing about heavy games like MC4 or so as sometimes my N10 lags during gameplay for MC4. It is however pretty smooth on other games like Nova 3 and asphalt 7 with gorgeous graphics.
Thanks in advance if you consider this.
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What about the battery life? I am really curious about this question.
Sometimes the nexus 10 has some laggs while using the chrome browser.
I also miss the 3g modul in the n10
The battery on the Nexus is a bit better (my sister has a lot of battery sucking apps though, and I'm UV'ed in my Nexus so I won't use it to compare it with the Note) I have yet to try any heavy games, I'll run NFSMW later today after I flash the Note as it went back to the damn bug even after the ODIN restore.
Don't use Chrome... Use the stock browser or Boat browser.
No lags, delays, anything - pinch to zoom is ultrasmooth and pages load fast.
I get the feeling that people experiencing lags or sluggish behavior are running a ton of un-optimized widgets, because I never had any problems and my benchmark results are stupidly high compared to anything else.
anazei said:
Don't use Chrome... Use the stock browser or Boat browser.
No lags, delays, anything - pinch to zoom is ultrasmooth and pages load fast.
I get the feeling that people experiencing lags or sluggish behavior are running a ton of un-optimized widgets, because I never had any problems and my benchmark results are stupidly high compared to anything else.
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I know but you can't load the AOSP browser on the Nexus unless you root it, I could use mine for comparison though.
I actually had the note 10.1 before i got the nexus 10. It was the white version and boy was she pretty. Just a little too much plastic for my taste. The screen was gorgeous! With all honesty I enjoy it a little better then the nexus 10 screen. I guess I'm a rich color type of guy. The downside of the things was the fact I felt the screen was built for the s pen using only. Every time I tried to swipe across a application it would open that app up if I wasn't using the s-pen. It got to the point where it was unbearable to use. So I got the nexus 10 And been loving this beast every since. I love the feel of the tablet, the front speakers are nice and the most important reason why I fell in love with this thing. Stock android and The SPEED!!!! The speed is the fastest i seen on any android devices and i had them all. Also the camera is one of the best you can find on a tablet.
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I actually had the note 10.1 before i got the nexus 10. It was the white version and boy was she pretty. Just a little too much plastic for my taste. The screen was gorgeous! With all honesty I enjoy it a little better then the nexus 10 screen. I guess I'm a rich color type of guy. The downside of the things was the fact I felt the screen was built for the s pen using only. Every time I tried to swipe across a application it would open that app up if I wasn't using the s-pen. It got to the point where it was unbearable to use. So I got the nexus 10 And been loving this beast every since. I love the feel of the tablet, the front speakers are nice and the most important reason why I fell in love with this thing. Stock android and The SPEED!!!! The speed is the fastest i seen on any android devices and i had them all. Also the camera is one of the best you can find on a tablet.
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You say the screen was better on the Note?? I just returned the note because I couldn't stand reading text on it, it was just too fuzzy for my tired old eyes. I was assuming the Nexus would be better being that it has a higher resolution. I guess I'll have to make a Staples run and see if they have the Nexus' in stock and see for myself.
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You say the screen was better on the Note?? I just returned the note because I couldn't stand reading text on it, it was just too fuzzy for my tired old eyes. I was assuming the Nexus would be better being that it has a higher resolution. I guess I'll have to make a Staples run and see if they have the Nexus' in stock and see for myself.
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He meant color wise, the screen on the Nexus I'd the shapest one you'll find on any tablet, reading on it is great but whoever calibrated it crippled it on purpose.
The N10 is sharp and you will have no problems as far as reading text on it.
Note port?
So I love my Nexus 10, but I was wondering if anyone has tought of porting the Note 10.1 ROM to the Nexus? I just need a little more productivity from this tablet. Plus the stock browser is faster than the chrome.
my nexus 10 also has the hdmi slot.. why the note 10,1 uses a samsung dongle.. like a apple type variant.. only samsung approved
Upgraded from Note 2 to Mega and here's some thoughts after using it for nearly a week. This is based on the unrooted stock rom.
Likes:
1. Bigger, brighter, and whiter screen on the Mega. It makes watching video on the phone a real pleasure. The white colors on my Note 2 are always yellowish and blacks are clipped.
2. More natural color compared to the Note 2. My favorite screen mode is "standard".
3. Handles videos well. Played 720p mkv action movies with DTS audio and it handles them without a single hiccup. I used Archos Player to do that. Didn't test the stock video player since it doesn't support DTS audio
4. Easier to grab compared to Note 2.
5. The power button and the volume rocker are easier to press.
6. Higher DPI. It seems Samsung is using higher DPI for fonts, which makes the phone feel more like a tablet than a phone.
Dislikes:
1. No S pen. If you use that a lot, then you are going to miss it. I use it sometimes but I can manage the life without it.
2. No AC3 support. Sammy wants to save money here therefore you will have to buy a third party player with AC3 and/or DTS decoding. Of course if you don't mind, you could always re encode mkv movies to MP4 with AAC or mp3 audio which is then supported. I am just lazy.
3. Not enough accessories on the market. This is not he most popular phone so not so many accessories are available yet. Hope there will be more.
4. The rear camera lens: why does it have to stick out so much from the back??? Look at the iPhone, and some Sony phones. They don't have that ugly protrusion at the back!
5. Although easier to grab compared to Note 2, it is still a slippery phone. I am getting a rubberized back case to improve that.
6. When I am typing, the predicted words comes up later than on the Note 2. It's noticeable but not annoying yet because I don't type that fast. You may not like it if you are a turbo texter.
Everything else is pretty much the same as my Note 2. The Mega may not have the fastest CPU in the world, and it doesn't have 3 Gb of ram, but I didn't experience much lag at all.
Games:
I don't play games so I asked my 8 year old boy to test it for me. His answer is "no lags". Of course he didn't test all those CPU and GPU intensive games so don't quote me on that.
Battery life:
At full blast which means full brightness, all radios on, it lasts between 5 to 6 hours. I am quite impressed.
Screen sharpness:
being a 720p phone with the largest screen (am I right? ), I was worried that I will see a lot of pixelation. In reality I hardly notice that at all. I am sure a 1080p screen will look nicer. Maybe we will see that in Mega 2? Let's hope for one. And I don't mind if they make the screen even larger. If they can narrow the bezel like they did with the Note 3, they can make a 6.5 inch screen without making the phone larger.
Pocketability: it fits in my pant pockets but I have to admit it reaching the limit.
Final thoughts: Obviously there's a limit how big a phone can be. With the Note 3 being nearly physically identical to the Note 2, it looks like Samsung has decided that's the largest size they are willing to go if they wanted to keep the Note series popular. Hence the Mega looks like their experimental device: let's throw everything on the wall and see what sticks. It will be interesting to see how the market responds to the Mega within the next few months.
Conclusion: I am keeping the Mega and selling my Note 2.
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I must add that the viewing angle of the Mega is less than the Note 2.
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I was strongly considering one (or a voice capable 7" Tab 3 for less!) but found a T-Mobile Note 2 at a really good price. The screen resolution never bothered me; my 7.0+ has the same resolution in a larger device and it looks just fine. It all came down to the deal I could get. I still might get a T211, though I'm not thrilled about it's camera.
So my daydream headsets have arrived from the Verizon promo. So far I'm pretty impressed with the experience and the build quality. The pixel having only 1080p has made for a somewhat odd "looking through a screen door" view, but the motion and controls are great. I have never tried vr before so I have nothing to compare it to. I did compare the nexus 6 and moto z play with the pixel in the daydream headset (granted the nexus and moto were using cardboard app). The nexus shows a slightly better picture than the moto and the moto slightly better than the pixel despite the pixel and moto z play having the same resolution and the moto being half inch larger. The pixel however showed the best motion which should be no surprise because it's the only one with daydream support.
After an hour or so of farting around in vr I felt just an odd feeling with my eyes. Not a head ache but similar to the feeling of driving for hours on end. I believe this could be a result of the lower resolution. Anyway, I'm very pleased with my included with purchase daydream headset and will probably use it a few times a month as time permits and new apps and games come out.
I received mine today as well promo from Project Fi and I must say I am also very impressed. I played around with the YouTube VR as well as some games. Great quality, and super comfortable when wearing the headset. YouTube VR is probably my most favorite. Puts your right in the action of the video. Super sweet.
Kind of wish I got an XL but only when using daydream. And even then it really isn't an issue. I love my pixel and my daydream, and Google home, and Chromecast.... Yeah
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I love Daydream so far. The low resolution is really noticeable if you look at it, but it's also easy to ignore if you don't, so.... My biggest complaint is that it's awkward to run existing VR (Cardboard) apps, since they won't show up in the Daydream Launcher. You have to put your phone in the headset, but not close it, wait for the NFC tag to launch Daydream, then switch back to your real launcher, run the app you want, close the headset, and finally put it on. Quite a ridiculous process just to launch an app! Someone needs to make a standard app launcher for Daydream.
Similarly, whenever a VR app asks for a permission, you can seemingly approve it with the Daydream remote, but then you have to remove the headset and approve it again by clicking on the screen. Very bizarre.
The Google Play Movies app is disappointing ,since you can't zoom or move the screen at all, forcing you to look straight ahead, instead of putting it on and staring up at the ceiling while lying in bed, which I enjoy doing with YouTube videos. I also wish it had the curved screen feature.
Hopefully things will continue to improve as time goes on. Most of the Cardboard apps seem to have been forgotten about and not updated in a year or more, and the Daydream controller is not compatible with whatever control mechanism Cardboard used (I guess it had a trigger button?), so many of those apps don't work well.
Just turn off NFC and you can use the cardboard apps to your heart's content. Also FYI you can use the USB A to C adapter and plug in an Xbox remote for truly nausea inducing gaming fun!
My concern is how incredibly hot the phone gets. I get worried every time I put it in the headset. And then it's only a matter of time before the "phone is getting too hot" message starts appearing.
My Pixel gets real warm in the Daydream gizmo, but certainly not "too hot to touch" as I saw one reviewer claim. Nothing to compare it to, so I don't know nothing about no screen door. I did take off my wet-apply matte screen protector because it made the image "grainy".
I played with it for awhile, looked at all the content that's available, etc. Pretty cool, but as far as I'm concerned it still belongs on the "gee whiz" pile. "Cool" only takes you so far, and I don't see any killer app for it at this point.
Actually, my 7-year old granddaughter is getting more use from the Daydream gizmo than I am.
Edit: Thx to tjarvis for that tip about turning off NFC to view Cardboard content; makes sense, but I hadn't thought it through.
360/3D video and games is the only killer apps for VR. The "big" screen apps (WSJ, CNN) is a joke, I rather read articles and watch 2D videos on my 24" monitor.
360 video is kind of fun to watch, but will the interest last?
I only tried 2 free VR games, so can't comment on the benefit of a real VR game over old fashion non-VR games.
My Pixel is so hot that Daydream app pops up a message saying it will slower the rendering, then the VR is so laggish that it is completely unusable. But I am using bluetooth earphone, I suspect the bluetooth earphone is drawing too much power in addition to VR.
I think as far as hardware is concerned, the Tab S3 is fairly decent but when it comes to Android, I'm not so sure.
Speaking honestly and realistically, is the Tab S3 an equally good professional (well-rounded) tablet as an iPad Pro or is the Apple product a more polished solution? (Because lets face it, Apple has dominated the tablet market and continues to make improvements in that space to point where I personally feel that their products offer a very polished user experience, to the point of possibly being good enough to replace a notebook)
I had the 9.7 iPad pro for a while. The main thing I didn't like was that there was no resistance between the pencil and the screen. It was just too slippery to feel "right" as a note taker, which is one of my primary uses of a tablet. The S-Pen feels better with the rubber tip giving a little drag. I also didn't like the lack of a file manager,but that looks to be coming in iOS 11. I don't have the keyboard case for my S3 yet, so I can't comment on that. As always, there are a couple apps I can't get on Android, but others I can now that I'm on Android. I like the physical feel of the S3 better, but that's very subjective. I haven't done much with using Flow with my phone yet, that seems interesting also.
Thank for that feedback.
I'm still in two minds about whether I should spring for a Tab S3 or go for the iPad Pro 9.7 which is the same price.
Yes, I'm also interested in Samsung Flow. Specifically how well it works and whether it works with non-Samsung phones.
Byte_76 said:
Thank for that feedback.
I'm still in two minds about whether I should spring for a Tab S3 or go for the iPad Pro 9.7 which is the same price.
Yes, I'm also interested in Samsung Flow. Specifically how well it works and whether it works with non-Samsung phones.
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I have an Ipad Pro 9.7 and 10.5 and love them. Decided to get the Galaxy Tab S3 just to play with it at work and see how it compares to the iPad. Let's just say it feels like coming from a Ferrari and getting into a Yugo (no offense to Yugo lovers, i'm sure it gets great gas mileage). The galaxy Tab feels sooo slowww compared to the Apple Tablets. If you're looking for speed and ease of use i'd say get the Ipad. I doubt you'll be disappointed. The Galaxy feels so slow switching profiles and starting apps that i don't even use it beside for some gaming since I can play my many clash camps on one tablet ... Now ipad Pro 10.5, there's the winner here for screen responsiveness... but price still too high... but it's the best notebook replacement... no lag whatsoever... a speed daemon...
It can be very difficult to compare two tabs of different OS. At the end of the day, it is a question whether what you are more comfortable with? If you don't mind a closed ecosystem, then iOS would be suitable, but if you like more customization and want an open ecosystem, then Android would be the one.
Also, you have quite a few sites online elaborating the Tab S3 vs iPad Pro thing.
https://www.stuff.tv/features/samsung-galaxy-tab-s3-vs-apple-ipad-pro-97-which-best
The battery life might not be as good, and the speed isn't as fast as the iPad pro, but I also couldn't justify spending $649 for the tablet, $100 for the pen and another $150 for the keyboard. I got my Tab s3 for $449 and got the keyboard case for $65. The battery life gets me through the day. The most screen on time I've gotten is 9 hours, which is good enough for me. It might be slower than the iPad pro, but it's not a snail.
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Workflow dependent. Both are good, neither is a laptop replacement.
I haven't noticed a major difference in speed, Samsung screen is nicer. I also prefer the Samsung keyboard. IOS is improving at a great clip.
I had the og iPad Pro 9.7 and sold it within a week. Probably better hardware but I didn't like iOS or the rechargeable pen at all.
The BIGGEST issue for me: the wat the iPad Pro handles split screen. The S3 splits left/right in horizontal and top/bottom in portrait. The iPad also splits left/right when held horizontal but if holding it portrait, it also splits the screen left/right - which is pretty much useless. I could go for either of these tablets if I only needed to multitask when holding the tablet horizontally, but if I ever wated to multitask holding the tablet upright, the S3 is the only way to go.
Not sure why Apple hasn't fixed this. When I prepare for a class, I can hold the tablet horizontally (read on one side, write on the other) or upright (read on top, write on bottom). The Apple left/right split when holding it upright requires scrolling to continue to write (I use typical 8.5x11 dimensions in the event I want to print my hand written notes.
Also prefer a pen that doesn't cost $100 extra that has to be charged from the bottom of the iPad (risking snapping it off if I mishandle it).
If Apple would fix at least the way they split screen, I would consider buying one and overlook the pen issue.
I eventually bought both the iPad 10.5 and the S3 but ended up using the S3 more frequently. The 120Hz True tone display on the iPad is great but the AMOLED display on the S3 is still an absolute pleasure to use with vibrant and crisp image quality. They each have their strengths but you can't really go wrong with the S3.
The 4 speaker setup on the S3 sounds very good and I like that the surround audio is adjusted depending on the orientation of the tablet but the audio quality isn't quite as good as the iPad Pro 10.5 which has a slightly deeper sound with better bass.
I like that I can make calls and send SMS's as well as use WhatsApp on the S3. You can't do that with an iPad!
And the pen is great! I'm not an artist but just navigating the interface with the pen is a good experience as is the fact that the pen doesn't need to be charged like the Apple pencil.
Performance is decent as well. I haven't experienced any major lag and everything that I do with the tablet is fast and fluid, though I do run maintenance cleanups and reboot once in a while and I don't install a lot of unnecessary apps.
I get about a 1-2 days of battery life with around 9h SOT depending on how much I use the tablet and what I'm using it for. Obviously media and gaming consumes more battery while web surfing, email and document editing is fairly light on battery.
I've had a Note 2 then 4 since @ 2012-2013. I just bought a used Note 8 and have had it for @ 3 days. I really don't like it very much. I remember feeling like going from the the 2 -> 4 was unnecessary, but don't think I disliked the 4 when I first used it. I'm wondering if I just need to acclimate to it & tweak it to my preferences.
The camera seems awesome, I like the water resistance, I love having more RAM, fingerprint is great, otherwise:
-it feels more difficult to use
-it feels less intuitive opening multi window, using the settings menu, it feels like everything requires an extra 2-3 steps
-it doesn't feel noticeably faster to me in everyday use. Apps seem to take @ the same time to transition open, screen swiping feels about the same. Maybe it's noticeable under heavy use.
-it still takes 1:45 to charge
-the width feels much better in my hand, but I don't like the screen ratio. When using it as GPS in the car, it feels, at best, equal to the Note 4 (I think the 4's width is an advantage). It's really irritating that the top/bottom edges of videos get cut off when fullscreen. The screen color is nice.
-menu/back buttons are a wash. sometimes annoying, sometimes nice.
-i hate the s-pen pop out so far
I use my Note 4 mainly for:
-music + video playback over bluetooth earphones & connected to the car's head unit
-web browsing and/or youtube split screen
-S-Pen gets used almost daily (Note 7 stylus tips are awesome in the 4's pen!)
-GPS, I don't have many GPS problems or complaints about the receiver
-camera
I use the exclusive Note 4 features-
-swapping batteries (OEM + 2 Ankers/wall charger)
-IR transmitter @ 2-3x/week
I like that the Note 8 has-
-Awesome camera
-fingerprint sensor that you don't have to swipe
-more RAM. I haven't put it through the wringer with tons of open apps etc. Honestly I could just focus on shutting stuff down & clearing the phone more often, it's just a convenience.
-I really like pulling out the S-Pen and instantly writing on the lock screen. But pulling out the S-Pen is such a PITA compared to the 4, I think I would hate it for daily use.
-feels better in hand, I don't like the height so far.
-the curved front/back is a positive and negative
-the speaker sounds.. different. louder- i'm not sure if it's 'better'
I'm planning on reselling the 8 after 1-2 weeks. Any tips or suggestions before I do? I think I'll keep using the 4 for another few years. I've seen good reviews of the Pixel XL 2's speediness; but I have a 256gb microSD in my Note 4. I wish I could shave a couple mm's off the 4's bezels & give it some more powerful hardware. Thanks for any advice
Almost all your problems are solved in settings itself. Try to explore.
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I've had a Note 2 then 4 since @ 2012-2013. I just bought a used Note 8 and have had it for @ 3 days. I really don't like it very much. I remember feeling like going from the the 2 -> 4 was unnecessary, but don't think I disliked the 4 when I first used it. I'm wondering if I just need to acclimate to it & tweak it to my preferences.
The camera seems awesome, I like the water resistance, I love having more RAM, fingerprint is great, otherwise:
-it feels more difficult to use
-it feels less intuitive opening multi window, using the settings menu, it feels like everything requires an extra 2-3 steps
-it doesn't feel noticeably faster to me in everyday use. Apps seem to take @ the same time to transition open, screen swiping feels about the same. Maybe it's noticeable under heavy use.
-it still takes 1:45 to charge
-the width feels much better in my hand, but I don't like the screen ratio. When using it as GPS in the car, it feels, at best, equal to the Note 4 (I think the 4's width is an advantage). It's really irritating that the top/bottom edges of videos get cut off when fullscreen. The screen color is nice.
-menu/back buttons are a wash. sometimes annoying, sometimes nice.
-i hate the s-pen pop out so far
I use my Note 4 mainly for:
-music + video playback over bluetooth earphones & connected to the car's head unit
-web browsing and/or youtube split screen
-S-Pen gets used almost daily (Note 7 stylus tips are awesome in the 4's pen!)
-GPS, I don't have many GPS problems or complaints about the receiver
-camera
I use the exclusive Note 4 features-
-swapping batteries (OEM + 2 Ankers/wall charger)
-IR transmitter @ 2-3x/week
I like that the Note 8 has-
-Awesome camera
-fingerprint sensor that you don't have to swipe
-more RAM. I haven't put it through the wringer with tons of open apps etc. Honestly I could just focus on shutting stuff down & clearing the phone more often, it's just a convenience.
-I really like pulling out the S-Pen and instantly writing on the lock screen. But pulling out the S-Pen is such a PITA compared to the 4, I think I would hate it for daily use.
-feels better in hand, I don't like the height so far.
-the curved front/back is a positive and negative
-the speaker sounds.. different. louder- i'm not sure if it's 'better'
I'm planning on reselling the 8 after 1-2 weeks. Any tips or suggestions before I do? I think I'll keep using the 4 for another few years. I've seen good reviews of the Pixel XL 2's speediness; but I have a 256gb microSD in my Note 4. I wish I could shave a couple mm's off the 4's bezels & give it some more powerful hardware. Thanks for any advice
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"I wish I could shave a couple mm's off the 4's bezels & give it some more powerful hardware." How about use the Note 8! And go into the developer menu and speed up the animation! This thing flies!
- R. Kruse Ludington
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA
If you don't like the Note 8 & it's not for you, go ahead & sell it as planned. Everyone is different, no one here should convince you otherwise, they shouldn't have too, no point in asking our opinions, it's your preference. I went from Note 2 to Note 5. I'm not the type to upgrade every single year, not worth it IMO. Note 8 was a nice upgrade from the Note 5. I'm loving the Note 8, my favorite phone to date, but I'm also rooted with custom recovery so I can configure as I please, I can't live with out those features.
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I've had a Note 2 then 4 since @ 2012-2013. I just bought a used Note 8 and have had it for @ 3 days. I really don't like it very much. I remember feeling like going from the the 2 -> 4 was unnecessary, but don't think I disliked the 4 when I first used it. I'm wondering if I just need to acclimate to it & tweak it to my preferences.
The camera seems awesome, I like the water resistance, I love having more RAM, fingerprint is great, otherwise:
-it feels more difficult to use
-it feels less intuitive opening multi window, using the settings menu, it feels like everything requires an extra 2-3 steps
-it doesn't feel noticeably faster to me in everyday use. Apps seem to take @ the same time to transition open, screen swiping feels about the same. Maybe it's noticeable under heavy use.
-it still takes 1:45 to charge
-the width feels much better in my hand, but I don't like the screen ratio. When using it as GPS in the car, it feels, at best, equal to the Note 4 (I think the 4's width is an advantage). It's really irritating that the top/bottom edges of videos get cut off when fullscreen. The screen color is nice.
-menu/back buttons are a wash. sometimes annoying, sometimes nice.
-i hate the s-pen pop out so far
I use my Note 4 mainly for:
-music + video playback over bluetooth earphones & connected to the car's head unit
-web browsing and/or youtube split screen
-S-Pen gets used almost daily (Note 7 stylus tips are awesome in the 4's pen!)
-GPS, I don't have many GPS problems or complaints about the receiver
-camera
I use the exclusive Note 4 features-
-swapping batteries (OEM + 2 Ankers/wall charger)
-IR transmitter @ 2-3x/week
I like that the Note 8 has-
-Awesome camera
-fingerprint sensor that you don't have to swipe
-more RAM. I haven't put it through the wringer with tons of open apps etc. Honestly I could just focus on shutting stuff down & clearing the phone more often, it's just a convenience.
-I really like pulling out the S-Pen and instantly writing on the lock screen. But pulling out the S-Pen is such a PITA compared to the 4, I think I would hate it for daily use.
-feels better in hand, I don't like the height so far.
-the curved front/back is a positive and negative
-the speaker sounds.. different. louder- i'm not sure if it's 'better'
I'm planning on reselling the 8 after 1-2 weeks. Any tips or suggestions before I do? I think I'll keep using the 4 for another few years. I've seen good reviews of the Pixel XL 2's speediness; but I have a 256gb microSD in my Note 4. I wish I could shave a couple mm's off the 4's bezels & give it some more powerful hardware. Thanks for any advice
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Don't worry, you'll get used to it.
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what I miss the most from the note 4 is the leathery back and the paint on the bezel that wasn't as likely to scratch or chip.
what I definitely do not miss is the 1 year life expectancy of the motherboard.
mine died from motherboard failure after about a year, it got repaired under warranty, and a year after I got it back it died from the exact same motherboard failure.
the note 8 feels more fragile on the outside, but I definitely wouldn't ever want to go back to the note 4.
I got the 8 and used it for a month or so. I them went back to the 4 for a couple of days thinking there wouldn't be much difference but in reality the 8 is so much better.
Although I wasn't a fan of the 18:9 display initially I do prefer it now and the 4 was also noticeably slower. Even with a new Anker battery the 8 out lasts the 4 by some margin.
I still have my Note 4 as a backup but definitely no going back for me.
A side from not having the user removable battery. I actually like the Note 8 more than I expected. It is fast, the design and features are very good. Just wished that Samsung Notes and S Note had the OCR function from the Note 8.
I had the Note, Note3, LG G4 (worst decision I've ever made) and now the Note8. When I got the Note3 I thought it was the best phone ever created, with so many good features that I liked. Now, having the Note8, I feel like this is the greatest phone ever made. There's nothing about the Note8 that I don't like.
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I had the Note, Note3, LG G4 (worst decision I've ever made) and now the Note8. When I got the Note3 I thought it was the best phone ever created, with so many good features that I liked. Now, having the Note8, I feel like this is the greatest phone ever phone. There's nothing about the Note8 that I don't like.
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Ditto
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Max_Terrible said:
I had the Note, Note3, LG G4 (worst decision I've ever made) and now the Note8. When I got the Note3 I thought it was the best phone ever created, with so many good features that I liked. Now, having the Note8, I feel like this is the greatest phone ever made. There's nothing about the Note8 that I don't like.
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Same as above, except for me I tried the LG V10 hated it.
Note 4 was my favorite so far. Obviously not withstanding technology advancement etc compared to the Note 8.
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This is my 1st Note. I remember one of my colleagues had a note some years ago and I thought it was a monstrosity at the time. But he loved the thing and he would pull that S pen out and looked like he was having a ball. Now that I have one I understand that gleam in his eye. This device is just a great big beast of functionaliy and fun and hands down one of the best devices I've owned. Almost a year after purchase and it's running as smoothly as the day it was unboxed. I'm still on Nougat and Oreo has been sitting in the cue for weeks now. My phone runs great as it is now and I don't see anything that O has to offer that compels me to risk all of the problems others have had after upgrading. Anyone else?
I Have a note 3, a note 4, a note 7 and a note 8, the note 8 is obviously the best in every aspect, only thing I sometimes miss a little is the IR blaster, and of course the removable batt, but the water resistant feature gives you peace of mind, so, it is a ttade off, my note 4 has a a very annoying echo in calls, that would be my only complaint got tired trying to eliminate it
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Same as above, except for me I tried the LG V10 hated it.
Note 4 was my favorite so far. Obviously not withstanding technology advancement etc compared to the Note 8.
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I wanted the V10, but it wasn't available in South Africa. The reason I went for the G4 and not the Note5, at the time, is because I wanted a slightly cheaper phone and the Note5 didn't have the SD Card storage feature, which was a deal-breaker for me.
I see a lot of people saying the Note4 is or was their favourite. I have a friend that still has a Note4 and an S8 and she says she still loves the Note4 very much. More than the S8. She basically just uses the S8 for Whatsapp and the Note4 for everything else.
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I wanted the V10, but it wasn't available in South Africa. The reason I went for the G4 and not the Note5, at the time, is because I wanted a slightly cheaper phone and the Note5 didn't have the SD Card storage feature, which was a deal-breaker for me.
I see a lot of people saying the Note4 is or was their favourite. I have a friend that still has a Note4 and an S8 and she says she still loves the Note4 very much. More than the S8. She basically just uses the S8 for Whatsapp and the Note4 for everything else.
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Yep, Note 4 was lovely. Skipped the Note 5 for the same reason you did. Not being finiky, but I'd like to see some sort of future Note model without the curved edges. I don't think the curved edges have any purpose currently.
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My phone runs great as it is now and I don't see anything that O has to offer that compels me to risk all of the problems others have had after upgrading. Anyone else?
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That's great you like it as it is but the big argument for upgrading is the security patches...
You might find a few little extra's included that need searching for too as they aren't paraded around or listed in the changelog...
Not saying you have to but I have never had any problem with upgrades - using a non-rooted Exynos 950F.
Sometimes the pay-off is worth the risk and sometimes not, I'll leave it in your hands to decide what to do with your toy...
The curved and TV-remote type of body is definitely lame and unnecessary for a gadget that is supposed to have notes taking as its strong point. Why not leave those for the Galaxy S family ? The inability to change/remove battery is a combination of planned obsolescence and surveillance dystopia. The absence of AOSP/Lineage/Resurrection ROMs is the price we have to pay for Exynos. Battery and standby time are mediocre but at least it charges fast and the camera is good enough. The stylus is as crap/cheap as ever.
The problem is that, with Note 4, you want to go with performance/Exynos; then you basically have an unsupported/abandoned mobile, even though LineageOS has been resurrected lately in XDA by @dl12345 (original work by @bonuzzz). And the damn thing typically runs too hot and often throttles. RAM is low too.
Note 5 was a downgrade in every regard.
Note 3 was my favourite and probably the best, at least regarding popularity/support/market impact. But no OIS, terrible camera performance by today's standards (especially if you got rid of Samsung ROMs in order to make sense for having it), and the phone's built quality leaves a lot to be desired (Note 4 was an improvement).
A Note 7/FE with removable battery and a better built stylus would have been the ideal phone for me but designers/marketers/managers at Samsung never have a clue.
My Note 4 died a view months ago so I bought a Note 8. Although it has more power and all I still miss my Note 4. I hate the round edges of my Note 8. It's a pain in the a.. to use it with remote desktop. Those edges are good for nothing. I also hate the fact that I can't replace the battery anymore. Now I have to carry a power bank with me, while before I just had a fully charged replacement battery with me.
Screen and power is very good, but the old screen was better as it has not had this silly aspect ratio. I want to show my pictures with my phone, but due to the silly aspect ratio, I have huge black borders left and right and the actual area feels smaller than on my Note 4.
So yes, I liked my Note 4 more, but the Note 8 is not a bad phone at all.
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