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Truth be told I have been waiting for second gen WP7 devices to hit the canadian market, which doesnt seem to be happening anytime soon. Over the course of the past 3 months I have aquired an Acer Android tablet, sold my ipad and purchased an Android phone for my wife (casual user).
Now I am at the point where I am very tired of my 3 year old BB Curve and I want to start developing for the mobile market (for fun, possibly create custom apps for work, I am in IT)
I come from a Java background 10 years ago, then moved to .NET, which is why I was waiting for a Windows Phone, but has time has passed I have been following Android news and I am strongly considering getting an Android phone.
What I am not clear on is the Nexus line of phones, I guess this line of phones is managed by Google, which then chooses new OEMs as new phone are released? Is this a big benifit when it come to update/App support/ROMs..etc or is it a drawback?
Also, if you were to choose a phone to fit the following needs/wants, Is the Galaxy II or Galaxy Nexus a better fit (I really want a Samsung phone)
Needs
-Exchange support, not full, but the more ActiveSync features that are supported, the better.
-ROM Access, Id like to play around with ROM/Custimize the phone
-App support, I noticed on my Acer tablet a lot of apps are not available, that we can get on the phone
Wants
- I am stuck with this phonme for 2 years, so being able to upgrade to 5.0 when it comes out would be ideal.
- A Big screen! The softbuttons only on the Nexus is nice
- I want ICS right now, but I dont mind waiting till April when the GII gets it in Canada\
- I want to develop for it, if one is easier to development for (doubt it), it would be good to know.
Thanks, just looking for advice and figured this forum would be good, as I like to mess around with the software side of things, long time reader, first time poster!
ddemers said:
Truth be told I have been waiting for second gen WP7 devices to hit the canadian market, which doesnt seem to be happening anytime soon. Over the course of the past 3 months I have aquired an Acer Android tablet, sold my ipad and purchased an Android phone for my wife (casual user).
Now I am at the point where I am very tired of my 3 year old BB Curve and I want to start developing for the mobile market (for fun, possibly create custom apps for work, I am in IT)
I come from a Java background 10 years ago, then moved to .NET, which is why I was waiting for a Windows Phone, but has time has passed I have been following Android news and I am strongly considering getting an Android phone.
What I am not clear on is the Nexus line of phones, I guess this line of phones is managed by Google, which then chooses new OEMs as new phone are released? Is this a big benifit when it come to update/App support/ROMs..etc or is it a drawback?
Also, if you were to choose a phone to fit the following needs/wants, Is the Galaxy II or Galaxy Nexus a better fit (I really want a Samsung phone)
Needs
-Exchange support, not full, but the more ActiveSync features that are supported, the better.
-ROM Access, Id like to play around with ROM/Custimize the phone
-App support, I noticed on my Acer tablet a lot of apps are not available, that we can get on the phone
Wants
- I am stuck with this phonme for 2 years, so being able to upgrade to 5.0 when it comes out would be ideal.
- A Big screen! The softbuttons only on the Nexus is nice
- I want ICS right now, but I dont mind waiting till April when the GII gets it in Canada\
- I want to develop for it, if one is easier to development for (doubt it), it would be good to know.
Thanks, just looking for advice and figured this forum would be good, as I like to mess around with the software side of things, long time reader, first time poster!
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Go for the Nexus. It will have amazing dev support, and being a nexus is a huge benefit. It it guaranteed to get updates for 2 years, and receives all updates first. Unlocking the bootloader is a simple command throught the terminal emulator. Dev wise...you just can't go wrong with that phone.
Galaxy Nexus if your planning to dev as that's what its really made for as boot loader can be unlocked easily an it will have the next Android version guaranteed.
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another vote for Nexus S or Galaxy Nexus
you can also subscribe to the Samsung Developer program, to get loaner phones for DEVing
Thanks, looks like Nexus is the way to go
Thanks for the info, Is there a reference blog/document that outlines why the Nexus devices are special and what you get, not that I dont trust you all .
Just search google or whatever. There are multiple blogs that detail all the abilities of the Google Nexus. Again though, for what you're wanting the Nexus is going to be the best thing kicking right now. Easy unlockable bootloader and the ability to take updates immediately if you like.
If you're going to develop you might want to check out www.thenewboston.com He starts at the very beginning of basic development and gets as advanced as you like more or less. Great resource.
Nexus is a great choice for you.
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Get the iPhone 4 and jailbreak it.
Galaxy Nexus. It will last you years because its a google phone and will always receive updates first. Plus, they have the highest dev support.
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Galaxy Nexus is the first choise then Galaxy S2. u can think sensation xe if u like sense
s2, galaxy nexus, atrix2,moro rzr droid, lg 2x, on this order
alex2792 said:
Get the iPhone 4 and jailbreak it.
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I find the IPhone way too small to type on + I want to stand out . If people use an on screen keyboard I dont understand how people can be productive with such a small phone. I work with a lot of Iphones due to clients purchasing them, so I have been able to test them thoroughly.
Nexus or Galaxy S2
If you want a big phone get the Samsung Galaxy Note.
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SGS II for sure!
I have been a long time android user (windows mobile before that, palm before that). I love the flexibility of the platform. I love using my phone to do things that historically you need a pc to do. (usenet,movies,bittorent, now chromecast)
That being said while I enjoy the Note 3 and Android as a whole I find the flexibility I loved about android (roms,kernels,etc) is slowly going away with locked boot loaders. The note 3 has had the least developer support of any android phone I have had to date (HTC incredible, galaxy nexus, gs3)
In addition because of the number and variety of android devices the accessories for Android devices are generally less quality and slower to market then the Iphone. My galaxy nexus never got a proper car dock.
So now I am faced with a hard question. If I am forced to buy a phone with a locked bootloader I might aswell get a I phone (and jail break it). Because there are only 2 models of Iphone the dev support is much more focused. The accessory market is better etc, car integration.
Is any one else in the situation. Right now I am debating the nexus 6 (dual speakers unlocked bootloader) and the Iphone 6 plus. With the next HTC one max on the list if that is ever announced.
Is anyone else in the same boat.
*obviously everyone experience with android will be different*
It kinda sounds like you've answered your own question already.
In my experience, every Nexus has been terrible for accessory support. Remember that dock that was supposed to release very soon after the 1st gen Nexus 7? And didn't show up until right before or right after the 2nd gen Nexus 7 came out? Yeah. The Galaxy Nexus had some pretty mediocre accessory support, too. It got a Commuter and Defender, and in like two colors.
The one Android phone I had that had awesome accessory support was my Razr M. I had a car dock, the phone itself had an awesome car mode and all. The next Android phone that I've experienced with half decent support was the S5, but the Galaxy Note line doesn't get the same love. With my Note 3, I use my Spigen Bounce case (love the hell outta this thing) and a universal car mount if I need to use it as a GPS. That's all I really need, I guess.
My one knock against the 6 Plus is how awkward that thing looks. Of course, that's personal opinion, but I have a feeling a lot of Note 3 owners may share in my sentiment on that. I could be wrong.
I'm in the same boat except I definitely won't get the Note 4. My wife has a 6+ and I love messing around with the thing. On the other hand I love Android and have a ton of money with apps/music etc on it. I'm seriously torn myself I love the 6 inch screen, speakers, unlocked bootloader etc. On the Nexus, But the 6+ feels great imo in hand and is ridiculously smooth. And with jailbreaking it there is actually quite a bit you can do with them after reading up on it. I think I'm probably going with the 6+ personally. As you also stated the accessories for it for outweigh other phones, the 128gb option is nice, and just to get a new OS to play around with.
We have a thread to discuss other devices here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466108
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Hey everyone,
I got finally got the urge to buy a smartwatch and couldn't refuse the 30 dollar deal AT&T had with the contract. (Yeah, I know it's weird to get a 2 year contract for a watch, but even if I cancel it, it's still very cheap lol)
What I exactly want still doesn't exist (Gear S like watch with added features of S2 like NFC for tap to pay, IPX68 water resistance, some type of a smart bezel/dial, better app support like android wear for tizen) so I got what I think would work for me and went with it.
While doing all this, wife got jealous so we ended up getting her a rose gold moto 360 Gen 2. She's loving it so far.
I'm not the kinda guy to get last gen stuff, but I feel like this phone has some features I would want out of a smart watch, so I went with this instead of the S2 from AT&T. I would have really liked the LG Urbania (sp?) if it was still available and could make phone calls standalone.
ANYWAYS...
I just want to know if anyone decided to get a Gear S instead of a Gear S2 for whatever reasons... I'm curious what they were.
For me it was:
Proximity, and brightness sensor
bigger screen
doesn't look so much like another watch, so if I decide to wear my higher end watches, it doesn't look like I have 2 watches, but more so one smart device and one watch.
clasp and bit more premium feel
to go charger pack (maybe S2 has this too)
The reasons I considered S2 (and still do)
numbersync from at&t (is this coming to gear S?)
rotating bezel
slightly less obvious form factor (which contradicts my smart device thought)
NFC for tap to pay
I guess I'm just creating a discussion here. Feel free to chime in!
Personal preference
Still loving my Gear S. Haven't seen many S2 or even apple watches in Vancouver as yet, though I'm sick of people asking "Is that the Apple thingy?". I'm using this as a primary Phone these last few months only missing the camera function and initiating messages. That NFC Tap-to-Pay function you mentioned would be nice as well. As for customizing; I have several bands from E-bay to suit my mood and can even make it look high-end. (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s/accessories/stainless-steel-metal-band-gear-s-sale-t3091831). It IS water-resistant; I'm in the movie industry and this thing gets a beating/soaking from stunt and background work. Can't do without it anymore for exercise, riding , dog-walks or emergency - no more losing/forgetting/misplacing big old cellphone. Truth? I just really love showing off the convenience and features. Could've sold at least 2 dozen on set last season. The S2 and apple watch are simply extensions of their respective phones IMO.
I ordered mine from Ebay a few days ago. For me, it came down to the fact that they took away some great features in the S2. I like having the ability to use it as a standalone device. I also hate smartphones with rounded screens. Just doesn't make sense to me.
Techngro said:
I ordered mine from Ebay a few days ago. For me, it came down to the fact that they took away some great features in the S2. I like having the ability to use it as a standalone device. I also hate smartphones with rounded screens. Just doesn't make sense to me.
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You mean smartwatch? lol
I figured if I have 2 rounded watches, and I feel like wearing my rolex, it would be awkward to have 2 watch looking devices. at least with the phone like styling of Gear S, it looks like I have some smart device on my wrist lol.
and FYI, S2 does have a stand alone version.
razorseal said:
Hey everyone,
I got finally got the urge to buy a smartwatch and couldn't refuse the 30 dollar deal AT&T had with the contract. (Yeah, I know it's weird to get a 2 year contract for a watch, but even if I cancel it, it's still very cheap lol)
What I exactly want still doesn't exist (Gear S like watch with added features of S2 like NFC for tap to pay, IPX68 water resistance, some type of a smart bezel/dial, better app support like android wear for tizen) so I got what I think would work for me and went with it.
While doing all this, wife got jealous so we ended up getting her a rose gold moto 360 Gen 2. She's loving it so far.
I'm not the kinda guy to get last gen stuff, but I feel like this phone has some features I would want out of a smart watch, so I went with this instead of the S2 from AT&T. I would have really liked the LG Urbania (sp?) if it was still available and could make phone calls standalone.
ANYWAYS...
I just want to know if anyone decided to get a Gear S instead of a Gear S2 for whatever reasons... I'm curious what they were.
For me it was:
Proximity, and brightness sensor
bigger screen
doesn't look so much like another watch, so if I decide to wear my higher end watches, it doesn't look like I have 2 watches, but more so one smart device and one watch.
clasp and bit more premium feel
to go charger pack (maybe S2 has this too)
The reasons I considered S2 (and still do)
numbersync from at&t (is this coming to gear S?)
rotating bezel
slightly less obvious form factor (which contradicts my smart device thought)
NFC for tap to pay
I guess I'm just creating a discussion here. Feel free to chime in!
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You mention it being last year's tech, but if you compare the gear s to the brand new standalone gear s2 you'll find that it has the exact same processing power. But the nfc would be a nice feature. What it really came down to for me was the gear s has the screen size that allows it to have a fully functional keyboard. The rotating bezel is great in the gear s2 for scrolling through notifications and other functions, but trying to type with that is annoying. I am still surprised at how often I use the on screen keyboard of the gear s
razorseal said:
I figured if I have 2 rounded watches, and I feel like wearing my rolex...
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I see what you did there, big baller.
Of course, I forgot the S2 has a standalone version. I saw it every time I went to the T-Mobile website to figure out how to get a data plan. But I'm sure it would be significantly more expensive than what I paid for the Gear S. But correct me if I'm wrong, they took away the speaker and the microphone from the Gear S2, right? I read that somewhere.
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I see what you did there, big baller.
Of course, I forgot the S2 has a standalone version. I saw it every time I went to the T-Mobile website to figure out how to get a data plan. But I'm sure it would be significantly more expensive than what I paid for the Gear S. But correct me if I'm wrong, they took away the speaker and the microphone from the Gear S2, right? I read that somewhere.
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They took away the speaker and microphone on the gear s2 and gear s2 classic, but they brought both back in the new standalone version
I will add that using the phone capability few days ago, (wife called, phone was downstairs, I was upstairs) it's a feature I will most certainly expect in a smart watch.
and that being said, even though the keyboard is tiny, it's rather usable with the 'swype' style typing. Easy to text if you have to. Used it several times already. I'll be missing that on the S2.. (of course I can T9 old school which I was pretty good at back in the day lol)
They both have positives and negatives that cancel each other out, but I'm getting used to my S that I don't know if I want to give it up lol.
Gear S Forward, Gear S2 Lost features.
Techngro said:
I ordered mine from Ebay a few days ago. For me, it came down to the fact that they took away some great features in the S2. I like having the ability to use it as a standalone device. I also hate smartphones with rounded screens. Just doesn't make sense to me.
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THIS!!
Exactly the same for me. I waited for the S2 and the speaker (used to Gear S). Once I realized that all notifications just disappear (can't get them back). I was not happy. The sole and main reason I left android wear.
God forbid, we DO want to go back and read a text again, or email, etc.
just my two cents.
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Got the Gear S2 the day it came out. Felt it did a lot of things right like the rotating bezel, the wireless charger etc. All things considered it felt like a watch that was more catered towards new buyers then early adopters. I've owned every iteration of the gear watch, kept my live for android wear and my nexus 6p.
I ended up returning my gear s2 because it didn't feel like an upgrade but more of I side-grade for all the things I gained i list another and it's so damn small. Not manly at all. If they made a bigger one I could be swayed. The size was really a deal breaker for me. After all the times I walked up to people at the office and pointed at their apple watch saying "Cute watch. Do they make them for men too?" Now the joke was on me. LOL.
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Got the Gear S2 the day it came out. Felt it did a lot of things right like the rotating bezel, the wireless charger etc. All things considered it felt like a watch that was more catered towards new buyers then early adopters. I've owned every iteration of the gear watch, kept my live for android wear and my nexus 6p.
I ended up returning my gear s2 because it didn't feel like an upgrade but more of I side-grade for all the things I gained i list another and it's so damn small. Not manly at all. If they made a bigger one I could be swayed. The size was really a deal breaker for me. After all the times I walked up to people at the office and pointed at their apple watch saying "Cute watch. Do they make them for men too?" Now the joke was on me. LOL.
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I feel you on the size issue also. On the new standalone s2 they did make it a little larger, but it still isn't enough of an upgrade to make me switch out my gear s
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I feel you on the size issue also. On the new standalone s2 they did make it a little larger, but it still isn't enough of an upgrade to make me switch out my gear s
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I agree. You know what bugs me though? Why the hell did they not update the software on the strip to match the s2? The new keyboard? The new features that can easily be replicated? The skin? I don't get it. I hate how Samsung just abandons their product after 18 months. It really irks me... Just saying.
I think u did forget that the standalone version of s2 dose have a E sim card. Wich is so new that few countrys do have it.
I love my GS and would never downgrade it for S2.. S2 is not a bad watch..but i have tested the moto 360 and a round little screen is no fun for scrolling or using or reading. The only thing i miss in my S is the camera.
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Compared the S2 and the S couple days ago at the AT&T store. Some features are neat (mainly the alternative way to scroll and I like the S health app more) but that's about it. I didn't like the flimsier rubber band, and side by side, that is a very small screen.
AT&T rep and I compared on screen typing (on a pinch if you must) it was a serious PITA even with T9. As we all know, S voice doesn't always work so...
I don't see myself letting go of this watch for an S2. LIike someone said, it's more of a sidestep then an upgrade.
I'll be sticking with the Gear S.
We'll see what S3 brings to the table end of this year. I'm pretty sure it will be another circular watch though.
And I do wish Samsung wouldn't abandon their products so fast. I wouldn't mind if they continued to update the software on this thing and bring few things update like S health.
I've also been messing with the wife's moto 360 2015. it's ok... I'm not really sold on the android wear experience either.
To be fair, s voice is a million times better than what it used to be. It was unusable back in the days of the s3/s4. It's nowhere near as good as Google, but at least it's acceptable on the tizen watches
Hey guess quick question I previously have the S8+ and I was wondering if I should get the S9 or wait for the note 9 or the s10
Any suggestions
Unless you don't mind upgrading at least once next year (and footing second hefty bill) you should wait. The S9 and S9+ have been widely received as purely iterative phones.
The Note 9 rumors up to this point in time have basically confirmed that it will be a similarly uninteresting device. It seems as though the most remarkable features will be yet another camera sensor and an S Pen with Bluetooth. Whether those inclusions are enough to sway you into shell out a few hundred dollars is your own choice.
That being said, all appearances suggest that the S10 will have a number of groundbreaking new selling points. Listening to the rumor mill isn't necessarily the wisest thing to do, but Samsung has to find something to keep people buying their devices. Most manufacturers cannot get away with putting out the same phone over the course of a few years. With luck they'll find a way to continue contending with the big players in the field. The S10 is their soonest opportunity to demonstrate that they can still innovate.
Tha ks fir the input guess ill wait for the s10
Hello,
I have a dying Tab S that I would like to change. I have an opportunity for a Galaxy Tab S3 (SM-T820) for 330 euros. It's a second hand. Bluetooth is not working, else everything is fine.
It seems a goo deal but 2 things are worrying me:
- I don't feel an overall love for the Tab S3 around. Globally, people don't seem satisfy of it. But I can't really say if they don't really like it or because they think it should not be so expensive considering the perfs,
- The second point is almost the same. The community don't care about this model. ie: there are neither official TWRP or LineageOS for this model.
Do you think I should buy a Galaxy Tab S2 instead or stay on my first deal for the S3?
The only reason to buy the S3 right now is to save money in comparison to the S4. The S3 with the optional keyboard will offer almost the same solution as the S4 but without the DeX mode. In addition, in the S3, because the screen is under 10 inches, you would be able to use all the Microsoft Office programs without a license. You would need an Office365 license for the Tab S4. I have the S3 and it works great with almost every application.
However, on the basis that things may get progressively more complex and may need more of a processing muscle, the best option may be to purchase an S4, although I understand that paying anything between $750-850 is not an easy decision
Thanks for your answer
So I finally took the S3 today. It's a second hand (but never have been used)at a good price, else I would not have bought it. I know the S4 will be better but much more expensive and I would not pay so much.