I'm thinking about a new phone upgrading from Xperia SP.
But my dad has pre-paid (Vodafone Hungary).
There doesn't have a Xperia XZ and X Compact, and even X Performance. (i hate you, Vodafone Hungary), but has Xperia X, Xperia Z5, Z5C, Z3C. (i ingore low-mid range models like XA)
-Do you think this Xperia X better than Z5? (example benchmark, gaming, camera, but nope waterproof)
-Do you think this Xperia X worth upgrading from Xperia SP?
-Do you think it's little weak Snapdragon 650 with this little expensive in terms prices other phones? (A57 has two cores, it could have better a Snapdragon 652 has four cores A57)
-Or wait a new phones for skipping year? (like snapdragon 830 stronger chipset than snapdragon 820, but my Xperia SP is dying because slightly problems low RAM like FB messenger, FB app, ah please no Samsung, LG or Other phones because i don't like UI, Interface display)
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jenci8888 said:
I'm thinking about a new phone upgrading from Xperia SP.
But my dad has pre-paid (Vodafone Hungary).
There doesn't have a Xperia XZ and X Compact, and even X Performance. (i hate you, Vodafone Hungary), but has Xperia X, Xperia Z5, Z5C, Z3C. (i ingore low-mid range models like XA)
-Do you think this Xperia X better than Z5? (example benchmark, gaming, camera, but nope waterproof)
-Do you think this Xperia X worth upgrading from Xperia SP?
-Do you think it's little weak Snapdragon 650 with this little expensive in terms prices other phones? (A57 has two cores, it could have better a Snapdragon 652 has four cores A57)
-Or wait a new phones for skipping year? (like snapdragon 830 stronger chipset than snapdragon 820, but my Xperia SP is dying because slightly problems low RAM like FB messenger, FB app, ah please no Samsung, LG or Other phones because i don't like UI, Interface display)
EDIT: Moderator, please move to Q & A thread, sorry for accidentally selected the thread (if after moved thread then I'l remove this edit)
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- S650 isn't that weak. On paper it performs similar to a S808, and runs much cooler than a S810. In terms of gaming, it could run almost everything you throw at it on high settings (the rest are Tegra exclusives). 3GB RAM on a near-AOSP stock ROM will handle multitasking very well. Also, it doesn't heat up like the Z5 or M4 Aqua did. It was, like, 40°C after 2 hrs of Asphalt Xtreme and PSP emulator.
- IIRC the SP has 1GB of RAM. It is worth a jump, unless you wanna wait for another year.
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- S650 isn't that weak. On paper it performs similar to a S808, and runs much cooler than a S810. In terms of gaming, it could run almost everything you throw at it on high settings (the rest are Tegra exclusives). 3GB RAM on a near-AOSP stock ROM will handle multitasking very well. Also, it doesn't heat up like the Z5 or M4 Aqua did. It was, like, 40°C after 2 hrs of Asphalt Xtreme and PSP emulator.
- IIRC the SP has 1GB of RAM. It is worth a jump, unless you wanna wait for another year.
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-Yeah, but it shows video GTA SA and Asphalt 8 has sometimes FPS drops like 23-26fps, because it's Andreo 510.
S810 has Andreo 430 slightly faster loading time than Andreo 510 (S650).
-Yeah, But i'd wait until MWC february for new mid-range devices just like last year Xperia X was.
Also, thanks for reply, I been much thinking, because isn't worth the waiting loading time gaming and modern games with struggling Andreo 510. (Still rumored S830 with Andreo 540, it will probary Around 2017 October for flagship devices)
And future modern games for bigger graphics and RAM too. I'd say 4 years cycle is worth upgrade with less spending money. (Look my signature, because 3-5 year cycle upgrade a phone, plus after released phone 1-2 year ago is worth price like 260-550€ (approx.) than new released phones with overpriced like 700€~)
jenci8888 said:
-Yeah, but it shows video GTA SA and Asphalt 8 has sometimes FPS drops like 23-26fps, because it's Andreo 510.
S810 has Andreo 430 slightly faster loading time than Andreo 510 (S650).
-Yeah, But i'd wait until MWC february for new mid-range devices just like last year Xperia X was.
Also, thanks for reply, I been much thinking, because isn't worth the waiting loading time gaming and modern games with struggling Andreo 510. (Still rumored S830 with Andreo 540, it will probary Around 2017 October for flagship devices)
And future modern games for bigger graphics and RAM too. I'd say 4 years cycle is worth upgrade with less spending money. (Look my signature, because 3-5 year cycle upgrade a phone, plus after released phone 1-2 year ago is worth price like 260-550€ (approx.) than new released phones with overpriced like 700€~)
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Well, you should wait for new flagships to go on sale if you doesn't change your phone that often.
In my calculation, this X can still handle most of the things for the next 3 years. Gaming is not really a big problem. Big companies always optimize their games for a majority of devices, including low-end ones.
Asphalt Xtreme still runs well on the first-gen Xperia Z.
New chipsets may sound... snappy, but it isn't too strong. (My 2011 PC still outperform both the S820 and the A10 Fusion). In the case of PC ports like GTA... why not play it on a damn PC already?
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Hello DuuDe's! 'Sup!?
I know, every device(CellPhone) is best at one department, but i wanna Know: (3 Questions)
1-Wich is the best Device With 512mb of RAM?
2-Wich is the best Device With 768mb of RAM?
3-Wich is the best Device With 1024mb of RAM?
I wanna know all these 3 segments.
The device im seeking, is one that No matter what App or Game i "Trow" to it, it execute it Flawlessly.
And I know, i cant install like 300k apps because that loads the device and lags it, but i know the Ext2/3/4 partition Trick
NOTE: Really dont care too much if its LTE enable or not. If price difference is considerable for just Having LTE i may discard it... All because in my country LTE will arrive in 2016 if not latter :'(
Anyway, if you guys help me with that, I Will be Thankfully
Cheers!
LG Optimus Speed, HTC Sensation, Samsung Galaxy S2
I'd definitely say, the best smartphone (also because it has 1GB RAM) is the Galaxy S2 which runs super smooth and should handle every apps flawlessly (just for some Tegra games you need to install chainfire but the 1.2GHz Dual Core Chip plus Hardware acceleration is awesome).
The number of devices with 768MB RAM isn't that big either, I'd choose the HTC Sensation which also has a 1.2 GHz dual core processor and nice screen and built quality, maybe runs a tiny bit worse that the S2 but it is definitely a great phone which also probably handles apps and games without problems.
The number of devices with 512 MB RAM is endless and the qualities of these devices depend on many things.
They usually handle applications and games (also 3d ones) as they are menu to be- all which is more a matter of the used processor. The best chip in a 512MB RAM phone is in the LG Optimus speed I think (Nvidia Tegra2, dual core) which runs very nice, also with high end Tegra optimized 3d games, and the OS will be even faster if you install CM7. The speed is pretty cheap for a dual core phone btw.
Hope this helps.
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I'd definitely say, the best smartphone (also because it has 1GB RAM) is the Galaxy S2 which runs super smooth and should handle every apps flawlessly (just for some Tegra games you need to install chainfire but the 1.2GHz Dual Core Chip plus Hardware acceleration is awesome).
The number of devices with 768MB RAM isn't that big either, I'd choose the HTC Sensation which also has a 1.2 GHz dual core processor and nice screen and built quality, maybe runs a tiny bit worse that the S2 but it is definitely a great phone which also probably handles apps and games without problems.
The number of devices with 512 MB RAM is endless and the qualities of these devices depend on many things.
They usually handle applications and games (also 3d ones) as they are menu to be- all which is more a matter of the used processor. The best chip in a 512MB RAM phone is in the LG Optimus speed I think (Nvidia Tegra2, dual core) which runs very nice, also with high end Tegra optimized 3d games, and the OS will be even faster if you install CM7. The speed is pretty cheap for a dual core phone btw.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks men, i see more clear now.
The HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio, its worth to expect the release of it?
What do you say? Should i spect 2012 for buy the phone?
All those 3 options, or any Dual-Core phone will last 2 year flawless on executing Apps?
I ask because, i see how the phone world is evolving... Like Gaming on PC, in 6 month u cant play the last games... I don't want giving 500/600 and in 1 year or less i have to change it, cuz lag/Don't Execute
2 years is a very long time
It's impossible to pretend how the whole thing will develop in two years, it's just certain that we will at least have Quadcore chips then (Nvidia's quadcore processor will probably come in the first quarter of 2012 and the devices a little later). And I'm pretty sure that there will be games optimized for this Nvidia chipset which may not run anywhere else- like it's today with the Tegra2. But the number of those games is relatively small (at least now) and most current 3d games with nice graphics van be played on current (or even >1 year old 1GHz) phones, look at the SE Xperia play!
The Sensation XE is no bad choice (1.5GHz Dual Core Snapdragon, 768MB of RAM, but that isn't that hugely important for the choice of games). If you can get it for a good price you won't buy a bad phone with a powerful processor- although I think I'd still prefer the Galaxy S2.
I really can't guarantee that a phone you but today will do everything a new phone maybe be able to do in two years, I'm even sure that a 2013/2014 device will be able to handle things a 2011 phone won't but you shouldn't be too sad about that. The device will still run well in two years and it will probably run 97% of all available games- but I still can't look into the future.
I don't know how long you want to wait with the purchase of your next phone, in a few months there will be certainly better phones- e.g. the next Nexus will be unveiled in some days, not sure what to expect from it, also the price of current flagships will drop.
What might be great for you if you love gaming would be a successor to the Xperia Play but I haven't heard anything about it yet.
hey everyone
any disadvantages about Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc S ?!!
I am thinking about getting it so please HONESTLY any disadvantages in this device
First of all, post in questions in...
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Only thing are the 512MB RAM that's a little bit bad.
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arc/arc S single core phone
u should wait for new SE phone named nazomi/Lt26i--dual core.......
and the amount of ram available in arc is 512 Mb only whereas nazomi would be having 1gb ram.......so u will feel the diiference......
I don't care about Dual core much because Android is going to release ICS which is fully optimized for dual core. So it can wait until most the app developers compile their program optimized for dual core it like having a Super bike and you can't drive faster on roads. But as far as jpg compression is too high no way to reduce it (As far as I know). Then yes the RAM could have been 768 or 1 GB but 512 is low if you run lot of apps. Battery life could have been better. But compared to the advantages this phone offers you won't really realize the disadvantages.
Hope this helps!
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I don't care about Dual core much because Android is going to release ICS which is fully optimized for dual core. So it can wait until most the app developers compile their program optimized for dual core it like having a Super bike and you can't drive faster on roads. But as far as jpg compression is too high no way to reduce it (As far as I know). Then yes the RAM could have been 768 or 1 GB but 512 is low if you run lot of apps. Battery life could have been better. But compared to the advantages this phone offers you won't really realize the disadvantages.
Hope this helps!
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but in my view by the next year dual core would be minimum requirement of high end phone......
and dual core will have a greater impact if you run lot of application and do multitasking
BTW:-720p screens are great for mobiles
Well, it is already but makes no sense as the apps aren't optimized yet.
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ShyamSasi said:
I don't care about Dual core much because Android is going to release ICS which is fully optimized for dual core. So it can wait until most the app developers compile their program optimized for dual core it like having a Super bike and you can't drive faster on roads. But as far as jpg compression is too high no way to reduce it (As far as I know). Then yes the RAM could have been 768 or 1 GB but 512 is low if you run lot of apps. Battery life could have been better. But compared to the advantages this phone offers you won't really realize the disadvantages.
Hope this helps!
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I have to Agree to this, Single core phones are at par with Dual core phones for the year 2011
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but in my view by the next year dual core would be minimum requirement of high end phone......
and dual core will have a greater impact if you run lot of application and do multitasking
BTW:-720p screens are great for mobiles
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Yes that would be next year, but not now, and not early next year
i'm owning arc lt15i.
i think what really missing is front camera. not really necessory, but usefull when u need it (sometime skypeing with kids when away, force to use lappy)(ladies use it for mirror)
other than that, the body not so great. mine after few months the crome & paint chirped (yes, i hate wearing case to the arc sexy body)(& yes the body just painted plastic & plated chrome)
low/no internel memory sometimes annoyed, even with apps2sd, red level always make you sick. i know there is some solution, but some critical apps need to being in internel, for faster loading & avoid crash.
as sony, camera not really in good department, not optimize since iphone use same sensor type (yes iphone 5mp cam some better quality). not premium camera replacement. (but at least better than korean)
sound quality side, quite okay (better than korean, again). can satisfied normal user but not dedicated music player for audiophile.
other than cons, i can say it's okay, compare to korean. great call quality, great screen (but only when head on, narrow view).
should i suggest it? yes if you really get good deal (just take lt15 rather than lt18, more 400mhz not really good deal, if the price different too much)
other suggestion, consider premium htc phone. or if you don't mind smaller (but great) screen & love lots of apps rather than play with interface, just take original iphone 4 (new, used or 8gb). my wife use it & it's really great phone, over my arc in much side, of course not screen size. great camera, great ui fluid, great sound quality, great screen etc.
Xperia neo with 1ghz sd2, 512 ram..
I think we are way back ..
2013 is the last year for our mobile with custom roms we can go year may be less ...
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And the point of your thread/post is? Of course other than pointing to clear facts which everyone is aware.
I just wanna say that mobile technology improving much faster than we are expecting..
That's a good sign...
the majority of users wont spend more than 200euro for a phone so Yes Many new things might be created for Super-smartphones but they will still have to work on ther older ones. Most people i know buy cheap phones rather than Quad-Core phones. Mostly people dont even know what Dual-core or quad core is .
Cocluding i believe we are safe.
2013 mobile trend..
5inch 1080p
Quadcore CPU
2gb RAM
13mp camera
This is staring of the year we can expect more.... In mwc Feb 25th
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2013 mobile trend..
5inch 1080p
Quadcore CPU
2gb RAM
13mp camera
This is staring of the year we can expect more.... In mwc Feb 25th
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So? Frankly hardware is not everything. Software optimisation is more important.
I know things improve real fast, but I think it's time we stop following the trend. It is very costly to buy new phones every year.
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So? Frankly hardware is not everything. Software optimisation is more important.
I know things improve real fast, but I think it's time we stop following the trend. It is very costly to buy new phones every year.
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Yeah mate I agree !
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A good example is the jb update for the t, now has 800mb of free ram after boot, with ics 400....
Also in benchmark tests( if thats your thing) it is now out performing the HTC one x with its four cores.
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Benchmarks aren't a justifiable source to see your phone's performance!
Like mpiekp already told!
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Benchmarks aren't a justifiable source to see your phone's performance!
Like mpiekp already told!
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I don't have money for a Xperia S or Ion, so i have to be happy with Neo L.
1Ghz, 512mb ram is mid-range. Dual core, 512~1024mb ram is high-end, and if you **** money.... premium class, Xperia Z, S3, One X, iPhone 5....
This are ok specs for Neo series. HTC One V, same SoC, Samsung Galaxy Ace is 180 euros....lol, not much choice in mid-range area.
Here's something strange I encountered yesterday :
My brother has HTC explorer ( gb, pure stock untouched, 600 MHz MSM7225A, Adreno 200 ) .... Pretty well below average huh?
Now mine ( Sony lww, ICS, MSM8255, Adreno 205, rooted , unlocked, bloatfree, custom rom& kernel, updated drivers, oc to 1.4 GHz ) ( Everything I could do to increase performance )
Who's the winner ? Mine ?
I played subway surfers on both. On HTC, due to its weak hardware, extreme lags are plausible. But devs are smart. When the game ran, it did not ran at full FPS ( say at 22 FPS rather than 30 ) . This way load reduces on both CPU and GPU so they have to calculate less instructions. This results in fairly good performance ( No extreme lags, touch responds all the time etc )
Now, for LWW, game tried to run at full 30 FPS. This means load on CPU and particularly GPU is maximum. Hence most of the time it ran real smooth but sometimes when 3D models became prominent, it lagged badly and my touch stopped responding. Result , the kid banged his head on a train engine .
Thus, it's not the hardware but software optimizations. One can point that I'm comparing gb and ICS. But still ( 600 MHz + heavy sense ) . That settles the seesaw.
( Not to mention, our devices on gb beat hell out of HTC exp. )
That's what we are not getting from Sony (swo)... compared to other manufacturers ics builds
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Hi. I am going to get a new phone, I am coming off of a Motorola Photon Q. I'm looking for a new phone and I don't really know which ones to get, I have a couple of them at the bottom. I am a moderate user. I text mildly, watch some youtube videos, etc. But I do like playing high-end games. My old Photon Q has an adreno 225, and it strains on playing MC4, around 13 FPS give or take.
The keyboard also just doesn't do much anymore and with 4 GB or storage, I can get one high-end game. -.-. I am considering these phones:
Htc One X+ - Because of good Tegra 3 clocked at 1700 and 64 GB space
Htc Droid DNA - Because of very good screen, but GPU might not be good enough for high end games? (Modern Combat, Asphalt, etc.)
Nexus 4 - Because cheap xD, GPU won't have as much strain on the lower resolution.
LG-G2 - 2300??? S800???? ADRENO330??? OF COURSE!
I haven't researched that many phones. (Only about 15 in-depth) so what is your opinion on these 4 phones? Any suggestions otherwise?
My budget is really around ~400 so the LG-G2 is like a dream haha...
Well thanks in advance!
Don't get a Tegra 3 for gaming. It's slow and it heats up.
Get a phone with a Adreno 320 GPU, they can deliver some power and are far more powerfull than a Tegra 3 with an ancient GPU.
Nexus 4 and HTC Droid DNA both have limited 16gb storage, which will become annoying.
For cheap gaming get a Oppo 5 or LG Optimus G. 32gb and adreno 320.
One X+ is perfect for everything else than gaming. Like music, 64gb and quality output.
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Don't get a Tegra 3 for gaming. It's slow and it heats up.
Get a phone with a Adreno 320 GPU, they can deliver some power and are far more powerfull than a Tegra 3 with an ancient GPU.
Nexus 4 and HTC Droid DNA both have limited 16gb storage, which will become annoying.
For cheap gaming get a Oppo 5 or LG Optimus G. 32gb and adreno 320.
One X+ is perfect for everything else than gaming. Like music, 64gb and quality output.
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AFAIK Droid DNA has external card slot...
I'd wait until the next HTC device comes out with a snapdragon 800 processor. Do some research into that and you'll quickly see why. I'm not talking about HTC's pianist phone the One Macs but soon after that they will have an actual phone size device with same specs. Maybe 4th quarter this year but will well worth the wait. I jumped the gun and got the one x+. Great phone for everything but gaming but if I waited just a few more months I could have gotten the HTC One that is better than Tue one x+ in every way except maybe the size of memory but 32g is more than enough for me personally. Just my input, don't rush cus a few months later a much better device will come out and you'll be like damn, should have waited.
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Don't buy a Tegra-powered phone if you want to play Gameloft games (no, I'm not advertising or anything!) E.g. asphalt 7 with this phone around 15 fps. Strangely, mc4 (fun game ) hangs around 40fps! I recommend you to buy a Snapdragon phone instead.
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Don't get a Tegra 3 for gaming. It's slow and it heats up.
Get a phone with a Adreno 320 GPU, they can deliver some power and are far more powerfull than a Tegra 3 with an ancient GPU.
Nexus 4 and HTC Droid DNA both have limited 16gb storage, which will become annoying.
For cheap gaming get a Oppo 5 or LG Optimus G. 32gb and adreno 320.
One X+ is perfect for everything else than gaming. Like music, 64gb and quality output.
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My att hox+ plays all games smoothly I never had lag
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Tegra 3 is a very inefficient chip. It just isn't meant for gaming. As others have pointed out, if you're gaming then you're much better off with an Adreno 320 or better.
hey guys so i was planing to get the tegra note tablet. but reading up i see the snapdragon 800 cpu is pretty good too,
what one do i pick !? i have around £200-300 mark, i cant find any snapdragon 800 Tablets out there, im a Pc gamer looking for a kind of gaming tablet. anyhelp would be amazing.
thanks 181jenkins
I'd go for tegra 4 if you're a gamer
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Either one will be fine... The snapdragon 800 is a beast also
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Either one will be fine... The snapdragon 800 is a beast also
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gahh im a performance guy i like to have the Highest in the benchmarks, thats why im was looking at the snapdragon 800 now, but the tegra 4 has 72 gpu cores... hate looking for tablets lol
Tegra 4 has less games than snapdragon
They are just same in performance
But going with s800 will be a wise choice due to high dev support
Go for galaxy note 3 it has s800 cpu with 3gb ram
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Either one will be fine... The snapdragon 800 is a beast also
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adeelraj said:
Tegra 4 has less games than snapdragon
They are just same in performance
But going with s800 will be a wise choice due to high dev support
Go for galaxy note 3 it has s800 cpu with 3gb ram
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less games? how come? i thought the tegra 4 will have more "graphics" than the snapdragon?
im looking for a tablet for the 200-300 mark.
thanks 181jenkins
181jenkins said:
less games? how come? i thought the tegra 4 will have more "graphics" than the snapdragon?
im looking for a tablet for the 200-300 mark.
thanks 181jenkins
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I would like to suggest a tab:
Try Google Nexus 7 (2013)
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I would like to suggest a tab:
Try Google Nexus 7 (2013)
Please Don't Forget To Press The Thanks Button!! :thumbup:
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i have the nexus 7 2013 version, and i want to move away, i mean i went to the nexus 7 2012 version for the performance, and it seams they ate going away from that and going to more of the " screen resolution" side of things. i mean i dont really care about the resolution, as the higher it is the more fps it will take away from performance,
thanks 181jenkins.
Consider the Tegra Note or Shield
181jenkins said:
i have the nexus 7 2013 version, and i want to move away, i mean i went to the nexus 7 2012 version for the performance, and it seams they ate going away from that and going to more of the " screen resolution" side of things. i mean i dont really care about the resolution, as the higher it is the more fps it will take away from performance,
thanks 181jenkins.
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I am waiting on a Tegra Note for $199 (~150GBP I suspect). Frame rates should be nearly 2x that of the Nexus 7 2013, which has 2.5x the number of pixels and a weaker GPU. The HP Slate 7 Extreme may be the first variant available. It also has computational photography featires (real-time HDR, track-focus, and slow-motion with a 5MP camera), very good sound, and a highly accurate stylus. Recent builds have shown Antutu scores of >36K (see YouTube Chinese review), versus ~20K for the highest N7 2013 scores. And yes, that is at least as high as the Sony Xperia Xperia Z Ultra phablet which uses an S800.
The S800 in theory has a stronger GPU but a weaker CPU. The real picture is clouded by the fact that certain vendors (see arstechnica.com_gadgets_2013_10_galaxy-note-3s-benchmarking-adjustments-inflate-scores-by-up-to-20 - replace underscores with slashes) have gamed the benchmarks when using the S800. The T4 has generally shown higher benchmarks than the original reference builds (e.g. Antutu on my Shield is 41.5k vs 36.5k), whereas the S800 has yet to beat their reference design performance. Of course, their reference phone build was about a half-inch thick. So that might have something to do with it...
If you want ultimate FPS performance, get the Shield. It actually has a (very quiet) fan so the device can run at close to 100% capacity for hours - something no phone or tablet can do, and there is no benchmark gaming as confirmed by Ars Technica. The Tegra Note would be a good second choice. After that, things get murkier, with the Sony S800-based Xperia Z Ultra being a decent choice. However, it's stylus looks quite inferior to the Note (no pressure sensitivity, for example), and the higher PPI will translate into slower FPS. The camera is 8MP vs 5MP for the note, but the Z doesn't the same real-time capabilities, AFAIK.
Some people claim that the T4 is a "power hog", and Toshiba's poorly engineered T4 tablet heat-sink hasn't helped this view. But Laptop Magazine has shown the Shield running 4.2W TDP for the T4 at 1.9Ghz under hours of heavy use, which compares favorably to the S800 design TDP (see fudzilla.com_home_item_31532-qualcomm-aims-at-25-to-3w-tdp-for-phones).
Hope that helps!
deppman said:
I am waiting on a Tegra Note for $199 (~150GBP I suspect). Frame rates should be nearly 2x that of the Nexus 7 2013, which has 2.5x the number of pixels and a weaker GPU. The HP Slate 7 Extreme may be the first variant available. It also has computational photography featires (real-time HDR, track-focus, and slow-motion with a 5MP camera), very good sound, and a highly accurate stylus. Recent builds have shown Antutu scores of >36K (see YouTube Chinese review), versus ~20K for the highest N7 2013 scores. And yes, that is at least as high as the Sony Xperia Xperia Z Ultra phablet which uses an S800.
The S800 in theory has a stronger GPU but a weaker CPU. The real picture is clouded by the fact that certain vendors (see arstechnica.com_gadgets_2013_10_galaxy-note-3s-benchmarking-adjustments-inflate-scores-by-up-to-20 - replace underscores with slashes) have gamed the benchmarks when using the S800. The T4 has generally shown higher benchmarks than the original reference builds (e.g. Antutu on my Shield is 41.5k vs 36.5k), whereas the S800 has yet to beat their reference design performance. Of course, their reference phone build was about a half-inch thick. So that might have something to do with it...
If you want ultimate FPS performance, get the Shield. It actually has a (very quiet) fan so the device can run at close to 100% capacity for hours - something no phone or tablet can do, and there is no benchmark gaming as confirmed by Ars Technica. The Tegra Note would be a good second choice. After that, things get murkier, with the Sony S800-based Xperia Z Ultra being a decent choice. However, it's stylus looks quite inferior to the Note (no pressure sensitivity, for example), and the higher PPI will translate into slower FPS. The camera is 8MP vs 5MP for the note, but the Z doesn't the same real-time capabilities, AFAIK.
Some people claim that the T4 is a "power hog", and Toshiba's poorly engineered T4 tablet heat-sink hasn't helped this view. But Laptop Magazine has shown the Shield running 4.2W TDP for the T4 at 1.9Ghz under hours of heavy use, which compares favorably to the S800 design TDP (see fudzilla.com_home_item_31532-qualcomm-aims-at-25-to-3w-tdp-for-phones).
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I've got the Z Ultra as a daily driver and its very good... And the Snapdragon 800 cpu has been overclocked to 2.7ghz over in the Z1 forum. Not thats thats recommended lol
That tegra note looks really sweat gaming platform for the price though, I suspect they have kept the resolution down to keep the price down, but that resolution is perfect for better gaming performance. Stylus is a plus as well...
Its a pitty the tegra 4 hasn't made its way to more phones/phablets. I think they will shift far more tablets than Shields as it a more versatile device for more people.. Anyone know if it will have the streaming capability of the shield? I suspect not.
Bro go for xolo play tab tegra4 obvi nvidia is the best for gaming and also tegra is overclockable
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I am waiting on a Tegra Note for $199 (~150GBP I suspect). Frame rates should be nearly 2x that of the Nexus 7 2013, which has 2.5x the number of pixels and a weaker GPU. The HP Slate 7 Extreme may be the first variant available. It also has computational photography featires (real-time HDR, track-focus, and slow-motion with a 5MP camera), very good sound, and a highly accurate stylus. Recent builds have shown Antutu scores of >36K (see YouTube Chinese review), versus ~20K for the highest N7 2013 scores. And yes, that is at least as high as the Sony Xperia Xperia Z Ultra phablet which uses an S800.
The S800 in theory has a stronger GPU but a weaker CPU. The real picture is clouded by the fact that certain vendors (see arstechnica.com_gadgets_2013_10_galaxy-note-3s-benchmarking-adjustments-inflate-scores-by-up-to-20 - replace underscores with slashes) have gamed the benchmarks when using the S800. The T4 has generally shown higher benchmarks than the original reference builds (e.g. Antutu on my Shield is 41.5k vs 36.5k), whereas the S800 has yet to beat their reference design performance. Of course, their reference phone build was about a half-inch thick. So that might have something to do with it...
If you want ultimate FPS performance, get the Shield. It actually has a (very quiet) fan so the device can run at close to 100% capacity for hours - something no phone or tablet can do, and there is no benchmark gaming as confirmed by Ars Technica. The Tegra Note would be a good second choice. After that, things get murkier, with the Sony S800-based Xperia Z Ultra being a decent choice. However, it's stylus looks quite inferior to the Note (no pressure sensitivity, for example), and the higher PPI will translate into slower FPS. The camera is 8MP vs 5MP for the note, but the Z doesn't the same real-time capabilities, AFAIK.
Some people claim that the T4 is a "power hog", and Toshiba's poorly engineered T4 tablet heat-sink hasn't helped this view. But Laptop Magazine has shown the Shield running 4.2W TDP for the T4 at 1.9Ghz under hours of heavy use, which compares favorably to the S800 design TDP (see fudzilla.com_home_item_31532-qualcomm-aims-at-25-to-3w-tdp-for-phones).
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i was looking at the shield but im in the uk adn the price of getting it shipped would be £100 ish with import tax etc, i cant see the point in spending around £350 on a shield when it retails at around £250 mark :/ i wish i could get one, but for now im waiting for the T4 note, anyone have any idea on when its coming out !? i keep thinking about the T4 as the tega zone and better looking games.
thanks 181jenkins
More Tegra Note Info
The chinese reviews are below. Use google translate. Also, I had to replace '/' with ' ' to get around the no-link ban.
A good overview is at pie.pconline.com.cn 365 3650116.html. Notice there is a mistake - the Note 7 does have a front facing VGA cam. And here is a video (remove the spaces): youtube.com-watch ?v= 4xOL3MtXEPU.
The video shows good benchmark scores, and highlights the use of the stylus. Personally, I wish this damn thing would come out! I really want a tablet with a stylus!
deppman said:
The chinese reviews are below. Use google translate. Also, I had to replace '/' with ' ' to get around the no-link ban.
A good overview is at pie.pconline.com.cn 365 3650116.html. Notice there is a mistake - the Note 7 does have a front facing VGA cam. And here is a video (remove the spaces): youtube.com-watch ?v= 4xOL3MtXEPU.
The video shows good benchmark scores, and highlights the use of the stylus. Personally, I wish this damn thing would come out! I really want a tablet with a stylus!
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seen it all just hate waiting for it lol, was rumours that it was going to be released on the 16th of October but obviously not :/, any one had anymore info about this ??