Related
Q&A for [APOLLO/RECOVERY LOCKED] Safestrap Recovery v3.72/v3.75 [B02 2014-07-03]
Some developers prefer that questions remain separate from their main development thread to help keep things organized. Placing your question within this thread will increase its chances of being answered by a member of the community or by the developer.
Before posting, please use the forum search and read through the discussion thread for [APOLLO/RECOVERY LOCKED] Safestrap Recovery v3.72/v3.75 [B02 2014-07-03]. If you can't find an answer, post it here, being sure to give as much information as possible (firmware version, steps to reproduce, logcat if available) so that you can get help.
Thanks for understanding and for helping to keep XDA neat and tidy!
Fire HDX 8.9 vs Kindle Fire HDX 8.9
Okay, so I have noticed that Hashcode built this for both the 7" and 8.9" versions of the Kindle Fire HDX, but does the 8.9" version here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2612772
Does this support the 3rd generation Fire HDX 8.9" version? I noticed that the download links say it supports systems earlier than 14.3.2.1 and later than 14.3.2.1, but does it support the newer Fire HDX 8.9" system 4.1.1? Judging from what I have researched, I believe that there isn't much difference between 14.3.2.1 and 4.1.1. Has anyone tried to root or install CM on this newest version of the HDX 8.9 yet?
Thanks in advance.
WickdWzrd said:
Okay, so I have noticed that Hashcode built this for both the 7" and 8.9" versions of the Kindle Fire HDX, but does the 8.9" version here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2612772
Does this support the 3rd generation Fire HDX 8.9" version? I noticed that the download links say it supports systems earlier than 14.3.2.1 and later than 14.3.2.1, but does it support the newer Fire HDX 8.9" system 4.1.1? Judging from what I have researched, I believe that there isn't much difference between 14.3.2.1 and 4.1.1. Has anyone tried to root or install CM on this newest version of the HDX 8.9 yet?
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, it's not possible to mod FireOS 4 in any way.
Safestrap apk for Kindle Fire HDX 14.3.2.3.2
Hi I'm trying to install safestrap on my kfhdx, but all the links in the forums seem to be broken. Any suggestions on where I can find this download? Thanks a lot
j1mbo83 said:
Hi I'm trying to install safestrap on my kfhdx, but all the links in the forums seem to be broken. Any suggestions on where I can find this download? Thanks a lot
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Available here.
Although I'm not sure why you want to install safestrap as the firmware version you are running (self reported as 14.3.2.3.2) permits flashing 'native' twrp which is far more robust. From there you can flash CM11 or Nexus 2.0.5. With a bit of work you can also unlock your bootloader which opens the door to CM12 and Nexus 4.x. None of these roms work with safestrap.
Safestrap is a primary used by those who cannot flash 'native' twrp (most newer Kindles) and/or if you wish to toggle between Fire OS and Nexus 1.01. Those are the only roms that work with safestrap. Also note you must take steps to block OTA while using Safestrap or risk bricking your device. At present the only method that works reliably is HDX toolkit.
Thanks for the reply, I'm obviously new to this but I've rooted my Kindle, installed Google play, but recently Google has been forcing updates of play services and I'm afraid to mess with anything else until I can either unlock bootloader it install custom recovery, if you could point me in the right direction on how to do this I'd appreciate it. Didn't know I could install twrp. Any directions in layman's terms would help, thanks.
j1mbo83 said:
Thanks for the reply, I'm obviously new to this but I've rooted my Kindle, installed Google play, but recently Google has been forcing updates of play services and I'm afraid to mess with anything else until I can either unlock bootloader it install custom recovery, if you could point me in the right direction on how to do this I'd appreciate it. Didn't know I could install twrp. Any directions in layman's terms would help, thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Installing a custom recovery (twrp) is straight forward given your version of Fire OS. Please confirm you really are on v14.3.2.3.2 and OTA (over-the-air) updates have been blocked and if so, via which method. Did you roll your device back from a higher firmware version? Sorry for all the questions - want to make sure the foundation is solid before taking next steps.
Outline to install custom recovery:
- side load Flashify (here). You can also find/install this from Play Store if working on your device.
- download custom twrp (here); you want Apollo v2.8.6.0
- use Flashify to backup your current recovery (don't skip this step)
- use Flashify to flash (install) the twrp recovery image previously downloaded. You must use this image; don't go downloading/flashing a generic version!
When complete you device will reboot back into Fire OS as if nothing changed. You can verify twrp was correctly installed by powering down and then restarting by pressing power + vol-up. Release the power button when the grey Kindle logo appears; release the vol-up button a few seconds alter. After a few moments a blue logo should appear and you will enter twrp recovery. Have a look around but don't change anything. Reboot you device and post back for further instructions (actually information on next steps; where the fun begins!) .
Be aware that any type of flashing can render your device unusable. The steps outlined above are relatively safe if you follow directions carefully and double check each action before executing. Ask questions in advance; don't panic and start doing unscripted stuff if something goes wrong.
I am running v14.3.2.3.2, I rooted the kindle and blocked OTA updates using hdx toolkit. I did this maybe about 7 months ago and never rolled back. Will these directions still work for me?
j1mbo83 said:
I am running v14.3.2.3.2, I rooted the kindle and blocked OTA updates using hdx toolkit. I did this maybe about 7 months ago and never rolled back. Will these directions still work for me?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looks good. Just go slow and double check each step. Once twrp is installed and confirmed working you can then flash either the Nexus or CM11 rom which will give you unfettered access to the Play store and all the goodness of a 'generic' android device. Effectively your Kindle looses its identity as an Amazon tablet. Nexus (what I use) has proven rock solid but is getting a bit long in the tooth. CM11 is based on KitKat and only has a minor issues with bluetooth, LTE and occasionally wifi. Most users of this rom are quite happy and can easily work around the issues.
Prior to flashing a new rom you should make a complete backup of your current system in twrp and then store that image on another device. Also keep in mind that once you flash twrp it is very difficult to restore your device to full 'stock'. Assume a one way trip.
Edit: Forgot to mention LTE. At present none of the roms support LTE but that will likely change in the near future. If you have an LTE enabled tablet you'll have to decide if that or play store access is more important.
Thanks. Ok I installed flashify, then followed your link to download and install twrp and it has a note at the top that says to unlock boot loader. I don't think it is unlocked. How do I check this? And if it isn't, how would I go about unlocking it?
---------- Post added at 09:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:11 PM ----------
Ok I successfully installed twrp, created a backup, and saved it to another device. Ready for the next step. Thanks for all your help.
Congrats. If you are asking how to know if you are unlocked, chances are good it is locked. You do not need to unlock the bootloader, but it is highly recommended as once successfully unlocked it is another failsafe, and opens up other roms (like cm 12). To unlock it, I suggest grabbing Draxie's automated (slightly) script from the original dev section. Know that the act of unlocking the bootloader is difficult, and will require you to learn more about your device, but it does pay off in the end.
j1mbo83 said:
Thanks. Ok I installed flashify, then followed your link to download and install twrp and it has a note at the top that says to unlock boot loader. I don't think it is unlocked. How do I check this? And if it isn't, how would I go about unlocking it?
---------- Post added at 09:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:11 PM ----------
Ok I successfully installed twrp, created a backup, and saved it to another device. Ready for the next step. Thanks for all your help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Congrats!! See post from lekofraggle (here) which I fully agree with. However, I think you can defer the bootloader unlock for a little while recognizing that it provides an important failsafe should you bork your device and is a prerequisite for some roms (eg: CM12).
Next step involves flashing a rom of your choice. Recognize all aps/data will be wiped; you'll be starting clean. However, anything previously purchased in the play store can be downloaded again assuming you use the same credentials when setting up accounts on the 'new' rom.
Choices:
- Nexus 2.0.5: JellyBean based, rock solid, near AOSP (unmodified Android). Info/links here.
- CM11: KitKat based, popular across numerous Android devices with useful extensions baked in. Some minor BT/WiFi flakiness on HDX devices. Info/links here.
Both roms can also be downloaded using the ROMs tab at the top of this page. Don't go trying anything else. You want HDX Nexus or CM11-Apollo. Magic Beans will also work but carries no significant advantage over the other two and hasn't see much development in recent months.
All ROMs can be flashed from twrp. Be sure to make a backup of your current environment first. Use caution in twrp if you are new to the tool; it's easy to mess things up including a full brick of your device.
I recommend you start with Nexus. It's a great rom that will serve you well; an upgrade (KitKat) is in the works and should be released in the not-too-distant future. CM11 is also a fine choice and offers greater compatibility with some of the more recent app releases. Both are further customizable via Xposed Framework but that's another discussion.
Ok thanks, I downloaded the zips, now I have just one more question (I know, I have a lot...). Do I need to wipe my system before installing new Rom?
j1mbo83 said:
Ok thanks, I downloaded the zips, now I have just one more question (I know, I have a lot...). Do I need to wipe my system before installing new Rom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Keep asking! Lots of devices have died in the hands of ignorant users (not intended to be an insult...were are all ignorant until educated).
In theory you do not need to wipe the device but there have been scattered reports of strange behaviors after performing a 'dirty' flash. My recommendation is to perform a factory reset (under wipe) from within twrp. This will clear data, cache and dalvik while leaving system and internal storage intact. If you opt for an "advanced wipe" select the previous 3 plus system; leave internal storage alone. Do not format or repair; just asking for trouble.
As always make a backup before proceeding and store a copy of that off-device. Short term keep a copy on the device along with the rom image just in case you have to redo something and can't connect via tether. Rare but it does happen.
Hello,
I'm hoping that someone can help me out with this.
Last December i bought a Fire HDX 7 (Thor). I immediatley followed the procedure to install Safestrap and the Thor Nexus ROM v2.0.1. Shortly after that my device got lost. Just last week I found it because my parents moved. After this I started looking around the internet to check if there are any 5.0 or 5.1 ROMs available. I found out they are indeed available.
What I want to do now is get rid of Safestrap, unlock the bootloader and install TWRP to be able to flash new ROMs. I want to start using TWRP because I'm used to working with TWRP.
The problem is that I can't seem to find a way to get this done, despite searching for it on this page for several hours. Can anyone help me on the right track? Would be very much appreciated.
Timmetjuh said:
Hello,
I'm hoping that someone can help me out with this.
Last December i bought a Fire HDX 7 (Thor). I immediatley followed the procedure to install Safestrap and the Thor Nexus ROM v2.0.1. Shortly after that my device got lost. Just last week I found it because my parents moved. After this I started looking around the internet to check if there are any 5.0 or 5.1 ROMs available. I found out they are indeed available.
What I want to do now is get rid of Safestrap, unlock the bootloader and install TWRP to be able to flash new ROMs. I want to start using TWRP because I'm used to working with TWRP.
The problem is that I can't seem to find a way to get this done, despite searching for it on this page for several hours. Can anyone help me on the right track? Would be very much appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your options are determined by the current version of Amazon firmware installed on your device. I assume you retained Fire OS in the base slot. Boot into that and poke around settings until you find the version number (should be 13.x.x plus some other gibberish). Post what you find and we'll go from there.
Caution: You should disable wifi immediately after booting into Fire OS to prevent an automatic update from Amazon from spoiling your day. At minimum an update will limit future options. I can also brick your device depending on firmware level and other previous mods (including safestrap). Disabling wifi in Nexus is not sufficient as the two roms operate independently.
Davey126 said:
Your options are determined by the current version of Amazon firmware installed on your device. I assume you retained Fire OS in the base slot. Boot into that and poke around settings until you find the version number (should be 13.x.x plus some other gibberish). Post what you find and we'll go from there.
Caution: You should disable wifi immediately after booting into Fire OS to prevent an automatic update from Amazon from spoiling your day. At minimum an update will limit future options. I can also brick your device depending on firmware level and other previous mods (including safestrap). Disabling wifi in Nexus is not sufficient as the two roms operate independently.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could it be that I somehow deleted the Fire OS back then? Don't really remeber what I did exactly..
Timmetjuh said:
Could it be that I somehow deleted the Fire OS back then? Don't really remeber what I did exactly..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Quite possibly. Enjoy Nexus; it's a good rom. Alternatively, follow the directions to see if you still have Fire OS installed. If at/below v3.2.6 then Lollipop is possible albeit with a lot of work and significant risk to your device. Otherwise you are limited to Fire OS and Nexus.
Seriously, if you don't recall what you did and can't figure out how start Safestrap in recovery mode be happy with what you have. There are no step-by-step guides. You have to read (a lot) and be prepared for numerous setbacks including an unrecoverable brick of your now working Kindle.
Davey126 said:
Quite possibly. Enjoy Nexus; it's a good rom. Alternatively, follow the directions to see if you still have Fire OS installed. If at/below v3.2.6 then Lollipop is possible albeit with a lot of work and significant risk to your device. Otherwise you are limited to Fire OS and Nexus.
Seriously, if you don't recall what you did and can't figure out how start Safestrap in recovery mode be happy with what you have. There are no step-by-step guides. You have to read (a lot) and be prepared for numerous setbacks including an unrecoverable brick of your now working Kindle.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry for my late response.. I just started Safestrap and can only find 1 ROM slot, the Stock ROM slot which probably means that I deleted the original OS.
I did find some files on my laptop that brought some memories back. What I did back then is downgrade the original software to version 13.3.2.6 and than to 13.3.1.0. Does this create any new possibilities?
I just managed to create a new ROM slot and succesfully installed stock 13.3.2.6 on it, so now running on Nexus ROM and stock 13.3.2.6.
Timmetjuh said:
Sorry for my late response.. I just started Safestrap and can only find 1 ROM slot, the Stock ROM slot which probably means that I deleted the original OS.
I did find some files on my laptop that brought some memories back. What I did back then is downgrade the original software to version 13.3.2.6 and than to 13.3.1.0. Does this create any new possibilities?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Timmetjuh said:
I just managed to create a new ROM slot and succesfully installed stock 13.3.2.6 on it, so now running on Nexus ROM and stock 13.3.2.6.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Warning: Do NOT allow Fire OS to auto-update. Doing so will likely brick your device. Short term the best way to prevent this is to only boot into Nexus. If necessary I can walk you through blocking OTA. Seriously - stay out of Fire OS for now.
I am no Safestrap expert but I believe the rom in the 'base' slot becomes the default when you uninstall Safestrap. So you may have some shuffling to do. Another concern is whether removing/reinstalling Fire OS will impact the ability to recognize the OS once Safetrap is gone. You need a functioning version of Fire OS (and recovery) to follow the 'standard' rollback/update/flash procedures.
However, there may be a shortcut. If 13.3.1.0 was the base rom just prior to installing Nexus and wiping out Fire OS you then should be able to flash twrp without further prep. That would give you access to both Nexus variants and CM11. Unfortunately, there is no easy way to determine the bootloader version which is the component that really matters. It should match the last version of Fire OS that was natively installed before you overwrite it with Nexus.
Unfortunately, the recent install of 13.3.2.6 into a safestrap slot complicates matters. I believe installs within Safestrap leaves the bootloader untouched. But I can't be sure. A misstep can leave your device in an unrecoverable condition; don't go experimenting.
Let's see which recovery you have installed. Power down the device then restart holding power + vol-up. When the grey Kindle logo appears release the power key; vol-up can be released a few seconds later. What happens after the grey logo disappears?
Davey126 said:
Warning: Do NOT allow Fire OS to auto-update. Doing so will likely brick your device. Short term the best way to prevent this is to only boot into Nexus. If necessary I can walk you through blocking OTA. Seriously - stay out of Fire OS for now.
I am no Safestrap expert but I believe the rom in the 'base' slot becomes the default when you uninstall Safestrap. So you may have some shuffling to do. Another concern is whether removing/reinstalling Fire OS will impact the ability to recognize the OS once Safetrap is gone. You need a functioning version of Fire OS (and recovery) to follow the 'standard' rollback/update/flash procedures.
However, there may be a shortcut. If 13.3.1.0 was the base rom just prior to installing Nexus and wiping out Fire OS you then should be able to flash twrp without further prep. That would give you access to both Nexus variants and CM11. Unfortunately, there is no easy way to determine the bootloader version which is the component that really matters. It should match the last version of Fire OS that was natively installed before you overwrite it with Nexus.
Unfortunately, the recent install of 13.3.2.6 into a safestrap slot complicates matters. I believe installs within Safestrap leaves the bootloader untouched. But I can't be sure. A misstep can leave your device in an unrecoverable condition; don't go experimenting.
Let's see which recovery you have installed. Power down the device then restart holding power + vol-up. When the grey Kindle logo appears release the power key; vol-up can be released a few seconds later. What happens after the grey logo disappears?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I see the following:
Kindle Fire System Recovery
Your Kindle doesn't seem to be able to boot. Resetting your device to Factory defaults may help you to fix this issue.
Then I get the options to Reboot or to reset to Factory Default.
Oh, the Fire OS is not connected to any networks so it won't be able to update.
Timmetjuh said:
I see the following:
Kindle Fire System Recovery
Your Kindle doesn't seem to be able to boot. Resetting your device to Factory defaults may help you to fix this issue.
Then I get the options to Reboot or to reset to Factory Default.
Oh, the Fire OS is not connected to any networks so it won't be able to update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok - a working stock recovery. That's good.
I am conflicted on next steps. The scripted approach would have you uninstall Safestrap (assuming Fire OS had remained in slot 0), rollback to 3.1.0 and then install twrp. However, since slot 0 now contains Nexus I do not feel removing Safestrap is wise. Nor to I think reinstalling Fire OS in the base slow will yield a functioning system once Safestrap is gone.
The 'shortcut' would have you flash twrp recovery (via adb or Flashify) since your bootloader *should*_be at the right level due to a previous 3.1.0 rollback. However, if that is not correct you will end up with a borked recovery which is difficult to rectify.
In your shoes I would probably do nothing given the device is fully functional. The developer of the Nexus rom is working on a KitKat 'upgrade' which is close to being released; a Safestrap variant will hopefully follow. There's no shame in running Nexus. Upgrade to v4.4, add a few Xposed modules and you have fully supported, near AOSP environment that's only lacking a few eye candy elements from Lollipop.
Davey126 said:
Ok - a working stock recovery. That's good.
I am conflicted on next steps. The scripted approach would have you uninstall Safestrap (assuming Fire OS had remained in slot 0), rollback to 3.1.0 and then install twrp. However, since slot 0 now contains Nexus I do not feel removing Safestrap is wise. Nor to I think reinstalling Fire OS in the base slow will yield a functioning system once Safestrap is gone.
The 'shortcut' would have you flash twrp recovery (via adb or Flashify) since your bootloader *should*_be at the right level due to a previous 3.1.0 rollback. However, if that is not correct you will end up with a borked recovery which is difficult to rectify.
In your shoes I would probably do nothing given the device is fully functional. The developer of the Nexus rom is working on a KitKat 'upgrade' which is close to being released; a Safestrap variant will hopefully follow. There's no shame in running Nexus. Upgrade to v4.4, add a few Xposed modules and you have fully supported, near AOSP environment that's only lacking a few eye candy elements from Lollipop.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not that I don't like the Nexus ROM, I just like to experiment with these things..
So I just installed TWRP with Flashify (started Flashify from NEXUS) and now I seem stuck at the grey Kindle fire logo. I'm just going to leave it alone for a few hours, hopefully it boots later today.
Davey126 said:
Ok - a working stock recovery. That's good.
I am conflicted on next steps. The scripted approach would have you uninstall Safestrap (assuming Fire OS had remained in slot 0), rollback to 3.1.0 and then install twrp. However, since slot 0 now contains Nexus I do not feel removing Safestrap is wise. Nor to I think reinstalling Fire OS in the base slow will yield a functioning system once Safestrap is gone.
The 'shortcut' would have you flash twrp recovery (via adb or Flashify) since your bootloader *should*_be at the right level due to a previous 3.1.0 rollback. However, if that is not correct you will end up with a borked recovery which is difficult to rectify.
In your shoes I would probably do nothing given the device is fully functional. The developer of the Nexus rom is working on a KitKat 'upgrade' which is close to being released; a Safestrap variant will hopefully follow. There's no shame in running Nexus. Upgrade to v4.4, add a few Xposed modules and you have fully supported, near AOSP environment that's only lacking a few eye candy elements from Lollipop.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It still boots after a very long time, however I don't know if I get the possibility to enter recovery because it takes several hours to boot. Any more ideas?
Timmetjuh said:
It still boots after a very long time, however I don't know if I get the possibility to enter recovery because it takes several hours to boot. Any more ideas?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Power down device and attempt to enter recovery by pressing power + vol-up. Release the power button after the grey logo appears; vol-up can be released after a few seconds. What happens next? Likely one of the following (good -> bad):
- blue screen followed by twrp recovery
- stock recovery with only two options: factory reset and reboot
- continuation of grey kindle logo
Davey126 said:
Power down device and attempt to enter recovery by pressing power + vol-up. Release the power button after the grey logo appears; vol-up can be released after a few seconds. What happens next? Likely one of the following (good -> bad):
- blue screen followed by twrp recovery
- stock recovery with only two options: factory reset and reboot
- continuation of grey kindle logo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm stuck at the grey Kindle logo..
Did it! Managed to flash the stock bootloader, rollback and install TWRP. Now ready to flash CM11. Thanks for you help!
Timmetjuh said:
Did it! Managed to flash the stock bootloader, rollback and install TWRP. Now ready to flash CM11. Thanks for you help!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Congrats! Had a bad feeling after your earlier post; glad that was misplaced. Enjoy CM11 and all the goodness that comes from a liberated HDX.
At some point you should consider unlocking the bootloader. That will provide an important fail safe should things go wrong and opens the door to newer roms. Unlike previous flashes there is little/no risk in unlocking. It will either work or not with no adverse consequences. Unlocking can be a frustrating ride as the process involves multiple steps in unfamiliar territory but ultimately the benefits outweigh the effort IMO. Nothing that needs to be tackled right away but keep it on your radar ... especially if you plan to experiment with other roms.
Unlock bootloader
Hello davey,
I am also interested in getting from safestrap v4 to an unlocked bootloader in order to use a lollipop ROM. My 3rd gen hdx 7 started on 4.5.5 so I did OTA rollback to 3.2.8, upgraded to 4.5.2, then rooted and safestrapped. Unfortunately I lost my stock ROM, but I current have both CM11 and HDZ nexus v4 on 2 different ROM slots. What would be my best way to proceed? From my research so far, it would appear I need to flash hdx nexus 2.0, then flash rollback image to get to modified 3.2.4, and from there 3.1.0 stock update with will allow me to use python method to unlock BL. Is this all correct?
Thanks in advance for your guidance
slothdabski said:
Hello davey,
I am also interested in getting from safestrap v4 to an unlocked bootloader in order to use a lollipop ROM. My 3rd gen hdx 7 started on 4.5.5 so I did OTA rollback to 3.2.8, upgraded to 4.5.2, then rooted and safestrapped. Unfortunately I lost my stock ROM, but I current have both CM11 and HDZ nexus v4 on 2 different ROM slots. What would be my best way to proceed? From my research so far, it would appear I need to flash hdx nexus 2.0, then flash rollback image to get to modified 3.2.4, and from there 3.1.0 stock update with will allow me to use python method to unlock BL. Is this all correct?
Thanks in advance for your guidance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. You can NOT unlock the bootloader! You can NOT downgrade to 3.2.4 and then further to 3.1.0/3.2.3.2! DON'T attempt to do so, you will brick your HDX!
Your only available option is to stay on 4.5.2 and use Safestrap v4 with either Nexus and/or CM11.
slothdabski said:
Hello davey,
I am also interested in getting from safestrap v4 to an unlocked bootloader in order to use a lollipop ROM. My 3rd gen hdx 7 started on 4.5.5 so I did OTA rollback to 3.2.8, upgraded to 4.5.2, then rooted and safestrapped. Unfortunately I lost my stock ROM, but I current have both CM11 and HDZ nexus v4 on 2 different ROM slots. What would be my best way to proceed? From my research so far, it would appear I need to flash hdx nexus 2.0, then flash rollback image to get to modified 3.2.4, and from there 3.1.0 stock update with will allow me to use python method to unlock BL. Is this all correct?
Thanks in advance for your guidance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately, you can not unlock your bootloader. Amazon introduced anti-rollback protection that will hard brick the device if rolled back below 3.2.8. Sorry, mate.
Davey126 said:
Unfortunately, you can not unlock your bootloader. Amazon introduced anti-rollback protection that will hard brick the device if rolled back below 3.2.8. Sorry, mate.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks Davey, you have been very helpful replying to me in another thread also. My reason for seeking a ROM other, than Nexus v4 or CM11, is the kitkat bluetooth tether/VPN bug documented at code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=62714 (sorry for no direct link, xda won't let me post them yet). A "work around" is to establish a wifi connection, even if it doesnt have internet access. This, for whatever reason, allows kitkat to forward the packets to apps on the kindle. I probably could get away with plugging in an old access point at work to enable the sharing sharing of my phones data connection with my safestrap kitkit kindle, but this isn't practical outside of my workplace.
FYI, I cant share my phone's connection via wifi because its an ATT note 4 with lollipop, a locked bootloader, and no permaroot available. I doubt there's a way to tether between 2 android devices via microUSB; but i'd be open to that too!
Thanks again for your wisdom and expertise!
slothdabski said:
Thanks Davey, you have been very helpful replying to me in another thread also. My reason for seeking a ROM other, than Nexus v4 or CM11, is the kitkat bluetooth tether/VPN bug documented at code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=62714 (sorry for no direct link, xda won't let me post them yet). A "work around" is to establish a wifi connection, even if it doesnt have internet access. This, for whatever reason, allows kitkat to forward the packets to apps on the kindle. I probably could get away with plugging in an old access point at work to enable the sharing sharing of my phones data connection with my safestrap kitkit kindle, but this isn't practical outside of my workplace.
FYI, I cant share my phone's connection via wifi because its an ATT note 4 with lollipop, a locked bootloader, and no permaroot available. I doubt there's a way to tether between 2 android devices via microUSB; but i'd be open to that too!
Thanks again for your wisdom and expertise!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I actually just got it working by running the following as SU in terminal emaulator
# ip route add default dev tun0 scope link
Not sure yet if I have to do this every time I tether, but if so, i think i can just make a script to execute automatically?
After install the safe strap, the recovery is changed to side strap so I cannot use the stock recovery.
but the stock image is only suitable for stock recovery.
I cannot find the way to completely recover as stock status. (Maybe I'm not a good searcher.)
I'm hesitating to install safe strap because of that reason.
Thanks.
Safestrap does not change Amazon's stock recovery. It is still there; you can access stock recovery by pressing power + vol-up (volume up) from a cold start. Release the power button when the grey Kindle logo appears followed by the volume button a few seconds later.
Simply stated, stock recovery and Safestrap recovery are different beasts and reside in different locations on your device. They can and do coexist.
If you install/configure Safestrap as recommended (Fire OS in the base slot; alternative rom in a secondary slot) you can easily return to stock by simply deleting secondary slots and then uninstalling Safestrap recovery via the original apk. It is more difficult to restore your Kindle to factory if you have installed a non-Amazon rom to the base slot.
At present there is an issue with Safestrap v4.0.1 that prevents WiFi from being enabled on secondary slots. That is prompting some (self included) to install Nexus v4.x into the base slot. However, ggow has provided a 'recovery' image that can be used to restore the Fire OS to the base slot if desired. At present there is not an equivalent image for Safestrap 3.x although tools exist to build such an image if someone has the motivation/skills/time.
Davey126 said:
Safestrap does not change Amazon's stock recovery. It is still there; you can access stock recovery by pressing power + vol-up (volume up) from a cold start. Release the power button when the grey Kindle logo appears followed by the volume button a few seconds later.
Simply stated, stock recovery and Safestrap recovery are different beasts and reside in different locations on your device. They can and do coexist.
If you install/configure Safestrap as recommended (Fire OS in the base slot; alternative rom in a secondary slot) you can easily return to stock by simply deleting secondary slots and then uninstalling Safestrap recovery via the original apk. It is more difficult to restore your Kindle to factory if you have installed a non-Amazon rom to the base slot.
At present there is an issue with Safestrap v4.0.1 that prevents WiFi from being enabled on secondary slots. That is prompting some (self included) to install Nexus v4.x into the base slot. However, ggow has provided a 'recovery' image that can be used to restore the Fire OS to the base slot if desired. At present there is not an equivalent image for Safestrap 3.x although tools exist to build such an image if someone has the motivation/skills/time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
summarizing what you say is,
1. Installing Safestrap doesn't touch the stock recovery.
2. If there's stock rom on the base slot, Just put the stock rom on the /sdcard/ to roll back to perfect stock device.
3. If non-stock rom is on the base slot, it's more complicating but thanks to the ggow's 'recovery image', I can roll back to the stock device from safestrap 4.0.x.
Thank you very much, Davey126!
By the way, where can I find "ggow's recovery image"?
Likesoft said:
summarizing what you say is,
1. Installing Safestrap doesn't touch the stock recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Correct.
Likesoft said:
2. If there's stock rom on the base slot, Just put the stock rom on the /sdcard/ to roll back to perfect stock device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's even simpler than that. Delete any secondary slots (make sure you are working with the correct slot!) and then uninstall SafeStrap using the original apk. If FireOS was in the stock slot it will become the default OS after SafeStrap is uninstalled. Note this has not been extensively tested in Safestrap v4 when Nexus and FireOS have been toggled in the stock slot. Nor will it work if Nexus remains in the stock slot after Safestrap is uninstalled; would likely yield a brick.
Likesoft said:
3. If non-stock rom is on the base slot, it's more complicating but thanks to the ggow's 'recovery image', I can roll back to the stock device from safestrap 4.0.x.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is my understanding. I have reached out to ggow for confirmation (best wait for that).
Likesoft said:
By the way, where can I find "ggow's recovery image"?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In the first post of the Safestrap v4.0.1 thread (here).
Davey126 said:
Correct.
It's even simpler than that. Delete any secondary slots (make sure you are working with the correct slot!) and then uninstall SafeStrap using the original apk. If FireOS was in the stock slot it will become the default OS after SafeStrap is uninstalled. Note this has not been extensively tested in Safestrap v4 when Nexus and FireOS have been toggled in the stock slot. Nor will it work if Nexus remains in the stock slot after Safestrap is uninstalled; would likely yield a brick.
That is my understanding. I have reached out to ggow for confirmation (best wait for that).
In the first post of the Safestrap v4.0.1 thread (here).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi Davey126, agreed if we are talking about an existing Safestrap v4.0.1 installation/
@Likesoft, what is your current setup?
Things to include in your answer:
- What ROM are you running and what version?
- Which version of Safestrap are you using
- Which Amazon ROM base did you have prior to installing Safestrap.
This information will help to determine what your next steps are, depending on what you are trying to achieve.
Davey126 said:
Correct.
It's even simpler than that. Delete any secondary slots (make sure you are working with the correct slot!) and then uninstall SafeStrap using the original apk. If FireOS was in the stock slot it will become the default OS after SafeStrap is uninstalled. Note this has not been extensively tested in Safestrap v4 when Nexus and FireOS have been toggled in the stock slot. Nor will it work if Nexus remains in the stock slot after Safestrap is uninstalled; would likely yield a brick.
That is my understanding. I have reached out to ggow for confirmation (best wait for that).
In the first post of the Safestrap v4.0.1 thread (here).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The reason why I told you the method of using stock recovery with stock rom is that I want to roll back "perfect stock rom(which is not rooted)".
Anyway, I really thank you!
ggow said:
@Likesoft, what is your current setup?
Things to include in your answer:
- What ROM are you running and what version?
- Which version of Safestrap are you using
- Which Amazon ROM base did you have prior to installing Safestrap.
This information will help to determine what your next steps are, depending on what you are trying to achieve.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
- What ROM are you running and what version?
-> I'm using apollo(Lte version) with stock 4.5.2 without rooted.(Still I'm stock rom. I wanna try to use Nexus 4.0.2)
- Which version of Safestrap are you using
-> I have not installed Safestrap yet. because of my lack of knowledge of the method of recovering stock rom..
- Which Amazon ROM base did you have prior to installing Safestrap.
-> 4.5.2 (As I said, I've not installed safestrap yet.)
Likesoft,
I would recommend rooting and blocking OTA updates so you do not get pushed to a version that you can neither root nor install safestrap if you want.
*.4.5.2 is the only version of the software which supports safestrap v. 4.
Also, you need to know that the stock recovery is not a true recovery. As such, if you use it to restore while safestrap is installed, you are almost ensured a brick. Safestrap makes a tinkering almost unrisky, but using the stock recovery is one exception (the only one I can think of at the moment).
lekofraggle said:
Also, you need to know that the stock recovery is not a true recovery. As such, if you use it to restore while safestrap is installed, you are almost ensured a brick. Safestrap makes a tinkering almost unrisky, but using the stock recovery is one exception (the only one I can think of at the moment).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Flashing an incompatible rom to the 'stock' slot is risky and could yield a brick. You should only experiment in secondary slots. However, some roms have wifi issues in safestrap v4 secondary slots which has yet to be resolved. That said, safestrap v4 is a huge leap forward giving devices running FireOS v4 options that were previously unthinkable. Just have to understand the (hopefully short term) limitations.
Thanks Davey. I knew there were other highly risky activities I was forgetting. I am kind of knew to safestrap. "Flashing" safestrap on an incompatible ROM os version would probably do it too.
Hey everyone I recently bricked my kindle fire because I was not careful enough about loading a custom ROM. Long story short I followed the instructions for a kindle fire HD7 instead of HDX7. Luckily, Amazon's customer service is WAY better than their operating systems because I was able to return my bricked device and get a new one within 3 days!
That being said, I was wondering if anyone here could provide a good, clear guide, or at least overview of the steps I need to take to install cyanogenmod 11 or some other custom ROM on my kindle fire hdx 7. I have been searching for a decent guide, but haven't been able to find one. Links to actual resources would be even better. I don't mind searching on my own, but I need at least enough information to not screw up my device again. Any help anyone could give me would be very appreciated! Thank you!
and just for reference my device is Kindle Fire HDX 7" THOR currently running FireOS 4.5.5
tropicallazerbeams said:
Hey everyone I recently bricked my kindle fire because I was not careful enough about loading a custom ROM. Long story short I followed the instructions for a kindle fire HD7 instead of HDX7. Luckily, Amazon's customer service is WAY better than their operating systems because I was able to return my bricked device and get a new one within 3 days!
That being said, I was wondering if anyone here could provide a good, clear guide, or at least overview of the steps I need to take to install cyanogenmod 11 or some other custom ROM on my kindle fire hdx 7. I have been searching for a decent guide, but haven't been able to find one. Links to actual resources would be even better. I don't mind searching on my own, but I need at least enough information to not screw up my device again. Any help anyone could give me would be very appreciated! Thank you!
and just for reference my device is Kindle Fire HDX 7" THOR currently running FireOS 4.5.5
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Amazon support is usually quite responsive. Be aware device replacement for software issues under warranty is a one-time courtesy. You own the replacement (actually a refurb).
High level steps required to prep your device for CM11 (or Nexus v4):
- rollback to FireOS 3.2.8
- upgrade to FireOS 4.5.2
- root with Kingroot or other method
- block OTA (over-the-air updates) - step #1
- install Safestrap v4
- flash a Safestrap v4 compatible rom (currently CM11 or Nexus v4)
The above links are NOT click and execute! There are no step-by-step guides, helpful videos, comprehensive tutorials (despite titles suggesting otherwise), etc. You have to dive into the forums and wade through hundreds of posts (many off-topic/extraneous) to get feel for the detailed procedures. There are some outstanding posts but you'll need to find them. Be aware some steps carry significant risks including a full-on brick from which there is no recovery. Read instructions carefully and be sure to ask questions before taking action.
A few tips:
- download everything you need in advance storing them in uniquely named folders. Some steps mandate your HDX be isolated from any networks. While most items can be retrieved via USB tether it is much easier to simply head for the folder on your HDX when the file is needed.
- understand what USB debug means and know how to enable in FireOS
- install minimal adb + fastboot and learn basic adb commands such as 'install' and 'push'
- ES File Explorer is your friend; alway keep a copy of the apk on your device for installation when needed.
- never perform a 'factory reset' unless specifically advised to do so by someone experienced with HDX devices; many sad tales begin with 'I did a factor reset ...'
Good luck.
Wow, awesome, this was exactly what I was looking for. I just finished installing CM11, the whole process took me about an hour now that I understand what to do. Thanks for the guide, I have a feeling this will help more people than just me. I would add one more step for anyone else looking: When installing your custom ROM, go ahead and install gapps (https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps) so that you can access the google play store from your new ROM.
Here are some decent video guides on how to use Safestrap in case anyone needed help with that:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6fPF5UZsWw) General Safestrap usage
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR0WXCITq2Q) Specifically how to install a custom ROM
So I have just a few more questions now, CM11 can only access about 8 out of the 16GB on the device. Is there a way to expand that memory to the entire 16GB? I should probably just be satisfied with my progress so far, but I honestly would not miss the stock fireOS if it would give me more space.
When/if I need to update CM, do I need to flash each and every update via recovery?
Thanks for all the help so far, you da man!
tropicallazerbeams said:
Wow, awesome, this was exactly what I was looking for. I just finished installing CM11, the whole process took me about an hour now that I understand what to do. Thanks for the guide, I have a feeling this will help more people than just me. I would add one more step for anyone else looking: When installing your custom ROM, go ahead and install gapps (https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps) so that you can access the google play store from your new ROM.
Here are some decent video guides on how to use Safestrap in case anyone needed help with that:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6fPF5UZsWw) General Safestrap usage
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR0WXCITq2Q) Specifically how to install a custom ROM
So I have just a few more questions now, CM11 can only access about 8 out of the 16GB on the device. Is there a way to expand that memory to the entire 16GB? I should probably just be satisfied with my progress so far, but I honestly would not miss the stock fireOS if it would give me more space.
When/if I need to update CM, do I need to flash each and every update via recovery?
Thanks for all the help so far, you da man!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Based on a few reports CM11 works best in the stock slot. Seems WiFi won't enter a low power state in secondary slots resulting in excessive battery drain. Thoughts:
- backup up stock slot in SS recovery. Save archive off-device.
- backup cm11 slot, switch to slot slot and restore
- after stock slot w/cm11 confirmed ok delete secondary slot(s)
You'll have access to the full 16GB with ability to restore FireOS if needed.
---------- Post added at 08:00 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:55 AM ----------
tropicallazerbeams said:
Here are some decent video guides on how to use Safestrap in case anyone needed help with that:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6fPF5UZsWw) General Safestrap usage
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR0WXCITq2Q) Specifically how to install a custom ROM
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks - nice find.
@ggow - possible add to SS v4 OP or separate thread for newbies.
tropicallazerbeams said:
Wow, awesome, this was exactly what I was looking for. I just finished installing CM11, the whole process took me about an hour now that I understand what to do. Thanks for the guide, I have a feeling this will help more people than just me. I would add one more step for anyone else looking: When installing your custom ROM, go ahead and install gapps (https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps) so that you can access the google play store from your new ROM.
Here are some decent video guides on how to use Safestrap in case anyone needed help with that:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6fPF5UZsWw) General Safestrap usage
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR0WXCITq2Q) Specifically how to install a custom ROM
So I have just a few more questions now, CM11 can only access about 8 out of the 16GB on the device. Is there a way to expand that memory to the entire 16GB? I should probably just be satisfied with my progress so far, but I honestly would not miss the stock fireOS if it would give me more space.
When/if I need to update CM, do I need to flash each and every update via recovery?
Thanks for all the help so far, you da man!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Davey126 said:
Based on a few reports CM11 works best in the stock slot. Seems WiFi won't enter a low power state in secondary slots resulting in excessive battery drain. Thoughts:
- backup up stock slot in SS recovery. Save archive off-device.
- backup cm11 slot, switch to slot slot and restore
- after stock slot w/cm11 confirmed ok delete secondary slot(s)
You'll have access to the full 16GB with ability to restore FireOS if needed.
---------- Post added at 08:00 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:55 AM ----------
Thanks - nice find.
@ggow - possible add to SS v4 OP or separate thread for newbies.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
- Added links to the OP of Safestrap 4.0.1 thread
Okay I ran into one more problem. I followed your instructions on switching ROM-1 to ROM-STOCK, but when I was restoring the contents of ROM-1 to ROM-STOCK, the procedure failed. It didn't say why, it just showed up in red text saying "failed". So it rebooted, but since ROM-STOCK was selected and a restoration had just failed on it, nothing happens when I boot up. It is stuck on the grey kindle fire logo. Is there a way that I can get into safestrap?
tropicallazerbeams said:
Okay I ran into one more problem. I followed your instructions on switching ROM-1 to ROM-STOCK, but when I was restoring the contents of ROM-1 to ROM-STOCK, the procedure failed. It didn't say why, it just showed up in red text saying "failed". So it rebooted, but since ROM-STOCK was selected and a restoration had just failed on it, nothing happens when I boot up. It is stuck on the grey kindle fire logo. Is there a way that I can get into safestrap?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well crap - that's not good. The symptoms suggest Safestrap v4 may have been damaged. I assume you tried waiting, rebooted multiple times, powered off/on, etc. Is there any indication Safestrap (or any environment beyond the grey boot screen) is present?
hehe, looks like I may have bricked my 2nd Fire....Tried waiting, rebooting and everything, still broke..... So Safestrap never really appeared to be damaged when it was rebooting after the installation failure. If I had to guess, I would say that ROM-1 and safestrap are totally fine, the only problem is that I can't access them because ROM-STOCK is selected. So what if I got my hands on one of those factory fastboot cables, do you think I could boot straight into fastboot, change my boot options to boot into recovery or my ROM-1?
tropicallazerbeams said:
hehe, looks like I may have bricked my 2nd Fire....Tried waiting, rebooting and everything, still broke..... So Safestrap never really appeared to be damaged when it was rebooting after the installation failure. If I had to guess, I would say that ROM-1 and safestrap are totally fine, the only problem is that I can't access them because ROM-STOCK is selected. So what if I got my hands on one of those factory fastboot cables, do you think I could boot straight into fastboot, change my boot options to boot into recovery or my ROM-1?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, with locked bootloader fastboot mode on HDX is practically useless, factory cable won't help you. Did you by any chance when you created ROM-1 slot changed data partition to bigger size? That would explain why restoration to STOCK slot failed. If you can't enter safestrap recovery at boot time, that means it IS damaged.
Yeah I did change the partition size when I created ROM-1. Thanks for all the help fellas, but it looks like I am right back where I started. Good thing my tablet was a gift
Im going to follow the process since I have at 4.5.2 rooted before.
How do I create the rom-1 to later install on stock without brick?
Or I should install directly to stock without doing rom-1?
alberto1414 said:
Im going to follow the process since I have at 4.5.2 rooted before.
How do I create the rom-1 to later install on stock without brick?
Or I should install directly to stock without doing rom-1?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Review the video in the Safestrap v4 OP for general usage info. For a variety of reasons I recommend only using the stock slot in SS v4. You should create a backup of the stock slot containing FireOS before flashing a new rom. Keep a copy off-device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61410598
Davey126 said:
Review the video in the Safestrap v4 OP for general usage info. For a variety of reasons I recommend only using the stock slot in SS v4. You should create a backup of the stock slot containing FireOS before flashing a new rom. Keep a copy off-device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61410598
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When being on safestrap after back up the stock slot.
do I have to do anything before flashing the new rom? like some wipes os what?
Can help with steps?
1. wipe? what to wipe?
2. flash?
3. factory reset?
I saw the instructions on the hdx nexus v4. but it doesnt say anything before flash. I think they talk about a new rom slot. but mine has the fire os.
alberto1414 said:
When being on safestrap after back up the stock slot.
do I have to do anything before flashing the new rom? like some wipes os what?
Can help with steps?
1. wipe? what to wipe?
2. flash?
3. factory reset?
I saw the instructions on the hdx nexus v4. but it doesnt say anything before flash. I think they talk about a new rom slot. but mine has the fire os.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I suggest you do some additional reading to gain confidence in the process. Briefly:
- backup the stock rom slot before taking any other action (use backup option within Safestrap v4)
- nothing needs to be done before flashing a new rom (Nexus v4 or CM11 only)
- each rom has its own requirements but in general performing a factory reset from within Safestrap is recommended. This is NOT the same thing as doing a factory reset from the Kindle recovery menu. Never to that unless instructed by an experienced member of the community.
While others may be willing to do so I will not provide a 'step-by-step' as all the information you need is one of the following threads. Reading and gaining confidence the the best way to avoid a mistake that could cripple your device. Community members are happy to answer specific questions as you become familiar with the details.
Safestrap v4
Nexus v4
CM11 for HDX (Safestrap build)
Read through posts now, thanks for the help
m1kemyer5 said:
Read through posts now, thanks for the help
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just one note: if it says factory reset in the installation notes it's the standard wipe only, i.e. you open the wipe menu, and swipe to wipe - do NOT go into advanced wipe!
Now it so happens @ggow implemented a System-wipe-protection in Safestrap v4 to prevent more bricked devices, but usually you should NOT have any reason to open the advanced wipe menu. Wiping System in Safestrap v3.7x is lethal (doesn't concern Safestrap v4 users, but can't be mentioned often enough).
Hi to all looking to have a custom rom, I recommend CM11 because it gives you a safe try and the wifi works.
Many new people trying nexus v4 are stuck.
If you like me, new to these things go with CM11.
I started with fire os 4.5.5 and downgrade to 3.2.8 to later upgrade to 4.5.2 , root and safestrap 4. create a new rom slot with default(no modification on size). to later install there the CM11 and everything without touching the stock slot of fire os 4.5.2.
If any one wants my personal experience, simple PM I'll be glad to help. just in this particular situation I just explained.
Thanks to the dev that made this posible.
alberto1414 said:
Hi to all looking to have a custom rom, I recommend CM11 because it gives you a safe try and the wifi works.
Many new people trying nexus v4 are stuck.
If you like me, new to these things go with CM11.
I started with fire os 4.5.5 and downgrade to 3.2.8 to later upgrade to 4.5.2 , root and safestrap 4. create a new rom slot with default(no modification on size). to later install there the CM11 and everything without touching the stock slot of fire os 4.5.2.
If any one wants my personal experience, simple PM I'll be glad to help. just in this particular situation I just explained.
Thanks to the dev that made this posible.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Quick clarifications to @alberto1414's comments:
- both Nexus v4 and CM11 run equally well in the stock (default) slot of Safestrap v4. There is no significant difference in stability or performance.
- creating one or more secondary slots allows multiple roms to reside on the device at the same time; a reboot is required to switch between roms.
- CM11 can function in a secondary slot; Nexus v4 and FireOS v4 can not as WiFi only works in the stock slot.
- flashing either Nexus v4 or CM11 to the stock slot overwrites FireOS; however this is not a problem as FireOS v4.5.2 can be restored at a later time either from a backup created by the user or as a 'fresh' install using a custom version available here.
- individuals who flashed Nexus v4 to the stock slot are not "stuck"; they can restore or reinstall FireOS 4.5.2 as outlined above.
- creating/using a secondary slot in Safestrap v4 significantly increases battery consumption. Root cause has yet to be identified but it appears the device never enters 'deep sleep' when secondary slots are in use.
- permanent device storage is shared across slots. This can become a problem on 16GB or 32GB devices. In contrast, all available storage is available to the stock slot if secondary slots are not created.
- Safestrap compatible roms are created/tested in the stock slot. Functionality and stability in secondary slots is not assured.
Ok so at first it wouldn't let me in until I plugged it into a computer or a fancy USB outlet. And it wouldn't let me go T the home screen. Now it wont let me on at all, after the home screen suddenly swooped in and ate this post on my Apollo, thus ****ing it. So now I can't get in at all. And I just rooted after I suddenly got this update, the newish one, and I renamed ota and ota contracts on accident. Is that a problem? Please help me...
Leafen said:
Ok so at first it wouldn't let me in until I plugged it into a computer or a fancy USB outlet. And it wouldn't let me go T the home screen. Now it wont let me on at all, after the home screen suddenly swooped in and ate this post on my Apollo, thus ****ing it. So now I can't get in at all. And I just rooted after I suddenly got this update, the newish one, and I renamed ota and ota contracts on accident. Is that a problem? Please help me...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Renaming OTA contracts is a problem! Given device is rooted it may be fixable via ADB. Also possible you can go further and unlock bootloader which yields complete control to repair/replace FireOS. I am travelling today and can not immediately help with details. Will check back later (24 hours) to see if help is still needed.
Thanks for the reply. However, I am unsure how to do what you suggested since its on a bootloop because I renamed the file apparently.
Thanks for the reply. However, I am unsure how to do what you suggested since its on a bootloop because I renamed the file apparently.
Leafen said:
Thanks for the reply. However, I am unsure how to do what you suggested since its on a bootloop because I renamed the file apparently.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bootloop further complicates matters. How much time passes before the device restarts? Does it ever make it to the login screen?
While there is still a glimmer of hope the situation is dire. Pretty good chance the device can not be recovered. I say that not to be negative but rather recognizing Apollo is not a cheap gadget. Amazon crippled native recovery capabilities making simple fixes impossible to apply. Akin to making tires a non replaceable item (brilliant). Just want to prepare you for an unpleasant outcome...
Davey126 said:
Bootloop further complicates matters. How much time passes before the device restarts? Does it ever make it to the login screen?
While there is still a glimmer of hope the situation is dire. Pretty good chance the device can not be recovered. I say that not to be negative but rather recognizing Apollo is not a cheap gadget. Amazon crippled native recovery capabilities making simple fixes impossible to apply. Akin to making tires a non replaceable item (brilliant). Just want to prepare you for an unpleasant outcome...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oi. Uh. It's normal procedure up to the colored Kindle logo. Goes off the same amount of time as usual. And it never makes it to the put in your password screen. Not yet anyways.
Scratch that I'm in. Changing Ota contracts back
It worked. I'm able to get back in the home screen. But now I need safestrap again for the ROM I already have partitioned on this device.
Leafen said:
It worked. I'm able to get back in the home screen. But now I need safestrap again for the ROM I already have partitioned on this device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Great! Assuming a factory reset did the trick (I didn't immediately suggest that course of action as it can sometimes make things worse; other things to try first).
If you install Safestrap v4 choice of ROMs is limited to Fire Nexus and CM11 - both KitKat based. Unlocking the bootloader opens the door to a wider selection of Lollipop and Marshmallow based ROMs. Unlocking is not risky but does require a bit of technical knowledge and some patience. An unlocked device is also easier to recover in the event of a ROM crash or bootloop.
Assuming you want to proceed with Safestrap download the app from here. Make sure you get the build appropriate for your device. Install/launch the app and then select the option that installs Safestrap recovery. Please note this is not a true recovery environment and has none of the special powers associated with TWRP. Its singular purpose it to support the two custom ROMs noted above on a locked device. Unlocked devices do not need to use Safestrap.
Once Safestrap recovery is installed reboot your device. After the grey Amazon logo you will be presented with a 'robot' screen where you can choose to continue booting into FireOS or enter Safestrap recovery mode. Choose the latter. After a few moments device will enter Safestrap recovery which emulates TWRP.
Do you know what to do from here?
Warning: Once Safestrap v4 recovery is installed you should NEVER perform a factory reset via the stock recovery menu. Doing so will brick the device.
Oh! Well. Id like to know about unlocking my boot whatever. Now Marshmallow and lollipop are Android 4. S.omething right? Oh um. Do you mind telling me how to do it, especially since I got jammed into the new update, breaking my safestrap I already had and leaving the slot out to dry? That would be appreciated!
Leafen said:
Oh! Well. Id like to know about unlocking my boot whatever. Now Marshmallow and lollipop are Android 4. S.omething right? Oh um. Do you mind telling me how to do it, especially since I got jammed into the new update, breaking my safestrap I already had and leaving the slot out to dry? That would be appreciated!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well you got "jammed" into a FireOS update because Safestrap was improperly configured. Details matter. Suggest proceeding with reinstalling Safestrap and forget about unlocking the bootloader thingy. Do not create or attempt to use a secondary slot. Custom ROM overwrites FireOS in the stock slot. Lots of posts outlining Safestrap best practices that apparently were not read or ignored.
Bootloader unlock thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/thor-unlocking-bootloader-firmware-t3463982
No the reason I was booted out was because i was having to be stuck on the FireOS because I have to have it for well.. Showing reasons. Don't worry about that. But Safestrap was done perfect, I had it going on for A long while. I successfully used two or more ROMs with perfect functionality.
Leafen said:
I successfully used two or more ROMs with perfect functionality.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If using multiple/secondary slots worked well enough for you, great!
Full functionality can not be achieved in secondary slots with Safestrap v4 which is an adaptation specific to this device and was never intended to support dual boot capability. Issues impacting ROMs operating in secondary slots:
- restricted BT/WiFi radio functionality (less of an issue w/CM11)
- only 2 of 4 CPU cores available (other two disabled)
- the two active cores run at 100% regardless of load
- device will not enter deep sleep when secondary slot is active
- poor performance and lousy battery life resulting from above
If you only use the secondary slot on occasion and radios work then it's obviously a personal call if the limitations are problematic.
Davey126 said:
If using multiple/secondary slots worked well enough for you, great!
Full functionality can not be achieved in secondary slots with Safestrap v4 which is an adaptation specific to this device and was never intended to support dual boot capability. Issues impacting ROMs operating in secondary slots:
- restricted BT/WiFi radio functionality (less of an issue w/CM11)
- only 2 of 4 CPU cores available (other two disabled)
- the two active cores run at 100% regardless of load
- device will not enter deep sleep when secondary slot is active
- poor performance and lousy battery life resulting from above
If you only use the secondary slot on occasion and radios work then it's obviously a personal call if the limitations are problematic.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I only had the battery thing. Otherwise I used my secondary rom pretty much all the time.
Leafen said:
I only had the battery thing. Otherwise I used my secondary rom pretty much all the time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And ½ the CPUs disabled. So why not install the custom rom in the stock slot?
Davey126 said:
And ½ the CPUs disabled. So why not install the custom rom in the stock slot?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have o keep up appearances pretty much. The reason why I dont really need to tell you. But its for appearences sake
Leafen said:
I have o keep up appearances pretty much. The reason why I dont really need to tell you. But its for appearences sake
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep - I get it. Not specifics (obviously) but understand optics. As an aside unlocking the bootloader offers no significant benefit given your situation. Enjoy.
Davey126 said:
Yep - I get it. Not specifics (obviously) but understand optics. As an aside unlocking the bootloader offers no significant benefit given your situation. Enjoy.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Crap. Safestrap isnt working for this update. Dang. Gotta wait for ggow or someone to make it.
Leafen said:
Crap. Safestrap isnt working for this update. Dang. Gotta wait for ggow or someone to make it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Must be on FireOS 4.5.2.0 or 4.5.5.1 to run Safestrap v4. Rollback/upgrade options are available but ugly. Pretty sure Safestrap won't be receiving any further updates now that the HDX bootloader can be unlocked on any rooted 3rd gen device.