Google services tracking - LG G5 Questions & Answers

I have my own Google account as well one my wife and use. I'll call mine account 1 and the shared account 2. About 2 weeks ago account 2 started tracking what i do in my phone as well a hers. Before that it only tracked hers. I have account 2 on my phone so I can get email, contacts, and calendar. Is there a way to not have this log what I do on my phone but still log hers, or is there another way I can get the email, contacts, and calendar?

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Mail App vs. GMail App

I got this phone a few days ago. Setup the standard Mail app with a Gmail account. Everything worked just fine until I went to the Market. The phone asked me to login to my Google account, which is the same as my Gmail login, BTW.
After doing that, unbeknownst to me, apparently the GMail app was also configured by that action. All of a sudden, my Mail app generated failed authorization, etc. errors. But, the GMail app was fine.
I like the Mail app better because I have other POP accounts, so having my Gmail account in the Mail app is more convenient. I tried everything, including try to delete the Gmail account itself in the Mail app, but I would get yet another error.
Tried deleting the Gmail account from the Gmail Mail app, and of course that can't be done either, without wiping the phone. Called VZW, spent 2 hours on the phone with them. We tried everything. They gave up and issued an RMA for immediate replacement of the phone.
This morning I saw an update notification for the Gmail app, so I let it run. Lo and behold, this Gmail Mail update somehow allowed me to remove the account from my Mail app. I guess both apps are inter-related in some way. I was able to add the account back into the Mail app, but it appears the Gmail app is now Alpha-Dog. Whenever I get any Gmail mail it goes into the Gmail App. The only way I can get Gmail mail into the Mail app is to do a Refresh. And, yes, the Mail app's Gmail account is set to Push.
Does anyone know if there's a way to uninstall/disable the Gmail app so that the Mail app can get my Gmail mail via push again, the way it orginally worked?
Know that I have been struggling with this since last night. Wouldn't you know it, that right when I give up and asked for all your help, I figure it out.
Apparently, as usual with this OS, things are not organized sensibly. The new GMail update removes the most important options for managing how mail is to be handled under Settings. For some reason, you know have to go to Accounts and Sync and select Google Account. From there I told it not to sync mail. Go figure!
I was going to tell you to go to settings/accounts/(your Gmail account)/ and tap "sync Gmail".
And also, don't call verizon. Everyone here knows that they are idiots. If you ever have a problem, come here.
I think you can turn off sync for it, then just type your emails into the mail app... I think you have to have a Gmail account on your phone now but I'm not totally sure.
GrayTheWolf said:
I was going to tell you to go to settings/accounts/(your Gmail account)/ and tap "sync Gmail".
And also, don't call verizon. Everyone here knows that they are idiots. If you ever have a problem, come here.
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I didn't want to bug everyone here for what should have been simple tech support.
You know what, though? While the Gmail app pushes immediately, the Mail app's Push seems to not be reliable, and can take FOREVER to Push when it does work, like anywhere between 10 minutes and an hour (yes, I have it set to Push for both Peak and Off-Peak times). One test message I sent from another account never even came, even when I Refreshed the account in the Mail app. I then went into the Gmail app, and refreshed the account there, and the message came into the Gmail app. I went back to the Mail app and Refreshed again, and the message showed up! ???
Any further thoughts? Anybody on an ICS leak see that all this stuff is fixed? I sure hope so.
Why don't you use gmail as your client for all your mail including pop3? Then just use the gmail app for all your mail.....
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Oldsteel68 said:
Why don't you use gmail as your client for all your mail including pop3? Then just use the gmail app for all your mail.....
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As far as I can tell, you can only use the GMail app for GMail accounts.
xv-6800 said:
You know what, though? While the Gmail app pushes immediately, the Mail app's Push seems to not be reliable, and can take FOREVER to Push when it does work, like anywhere between 10 minutes and an hour (yes, I have it set to Push for both Peak and Off-Peak times). One test message I sent from another account never even came, even when I Refreshed the account in the Mail app....
Any further thoughts? Anybody on an ICS leak see that all this stuff is fixed? I sure hope so.
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This is due to the built-in task-killer. Use K-9 mail, and you'll get your emails reliably pushed.
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xv-6800 said:
As far as I can tell, you can only use the GMail app for GMail accounts.
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Nope. Can use it for everything. Set everything up in gmail account from your pc browser and everything will reflect within the gmail app.
My gmail app is configured for my gmail and 5 of my business pop3 accounts. Works flawlessly.
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Are you saying to setup my GMail account itself to pop my POP addresses, then just add the one GMail account to the GMail app on my phone? (I already have some being popped by that GMail account, so I already know how to do that.) Or, are you saying that the GMail app on my phone can be configured to pop my POP addresses, as well as my GMail account?
The one thing I like about the Mail app is that you can have multiple e-mail accounts of ANY type configured, and when you reply to a message, you can choose to have the reply sent from ANY accounts, regardless of which account it was sent to. To elaborate, the only reason I have a GMail account is for the push aspect. I have 3 businesses, some of which I have multiple e-mail addresses for, as well as have several personal e-mail accounts. I have the important business accounts and the personal accounts set to send copies of received mail sent to the GMail account so they get pushed to the phone, which saves a LOT of battery juice. So, when I receive an important message on, say Business A E-Mail Account 1, I receive it in the GMail account set up in the Mail app on my phone. With the Mail app, I can easily choose to have the reply sent from, say Business B E-Mail Account 3 that I also have setup on my Mail app (I don't even have to actually pop Business B E-Mail Account 3, either, I just have to have it setup, so the receive setting is set to manual, so that account never has to pop the account, thereby, preserving battery juice).
So, the recipient sees my reply coming from Business A E-Mail Account 1, as he/she should.
Can the GMail app handle that type of function as easily as the Mail app on the phone?
FWIW, it would be a lot easier if GMail itself would offer that functionality, but it doesn't. Even if I reply via GMail using my PC, replies take on the "default" account's info, so if I reply to a message that comes into Business B E-Mail Account 3, the From and Reply To on that reply shows Business A E-Mail Account 1, if in fact Business A E-Mail Account 1 is the default account in my GMail account. I hope that makes sense.
Oldsteel68 said:
Nope. Can use it for everything. Set everything up in gmail account from your pc browser and everything will reflect within the gmail app.
My gmail app is configured for my gmail and 5 of my business pop3 accounts.
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Same here.
WookieFan said:
This is due to the built-in task-killer. Use K-9 mail, and you'll get your emails reliably pushed.
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Beat me to it. Love k9 mail.
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merlin66676 said:
Beat me to it. Love k9 mail.
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^^^ +3 this
jmorton10 said:
Same here.
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I just wanted to clarify for anyone else that might stumble across this thread that the GMail app on the phone only works with Google or GMail accounts. You can NOT setup any other type of e-mail address accounts in the GMail app. While you can go into your real GMail account, by going to GMail.com, and set your GMail account to POP other e-mail addresses, this does not offer the same benefits as having different accounts setup in a mail app, and depending upon your needs, may even give you undesirable results when you reply to messages received this way.
To add my 2 cents on this, if you are in need of any email accounts added to the mail app, if at all possible make sure they can be an exchange account, for the sake of battery life.
A huge battery killer is when your mail app is set to pull for new e-mail every 10-15 minutes. And on exchange it pushes your mail to your device when you have new mail, and only when you have something new, saving battery.
jazzyjames said:
To add my 2 cents on this, if you are in need of any email accounts added to the mail app, if at all possible make sure they can be an exchange account, for the sake of battery life.
A huge battery killer is when your mail app is set to pull for new e-mail every 10-15 minutes. And on exchange it pushes your mail to your device when you have new mail, and only when you have something new, saving battery.
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Good tip, but, not everyone has access to exhange server-based e-mail accounts. Not to fret, because below is how you can accommodate for e-mail accounts on servers that that don't have Push capabilities. (Please read all steps first before implementing, because your use could dictate in which order you'll want to add accounts in Step 2.)
1) Set up a GMail account to POP all other accounts.
2) In the Mail app, (not the GMail app), add all accounts (both GMail and non-GMail accounts).
3) For each of the non-GMail accounts, go to Settings and do the following:
In General settings, un-check Refresh on open.
In Send & Receive settings, click Update schedule, and under Frequency choose Manual for both Peak times and Off-peak times.
4) For the GMail account, go to Settings, select Receive settings, and under Update schedule choose Push Mail for both Peak times and Off-peak times.
Since the GMail account POPs the non-GMail accounts, any messages from the non-GMail accounts are pushed to the phone. Normally with G-Mail, both on the web and in the GMail app, if you reply to a message, the reply shows a that the reply is coming fron the GMail account, which you might not want, especially with work e-mails. But, in the Mail app you can actually reply reply from the account the message was originally sent to, even though it was pushed to your phone via your GMail account. Simply click Reply, then click From: at the top of your reply and choose the account you want the reply sent from. VOILA!
Tip: Note that accounts in the Accounts List are displayed in the order in which you add them; you CANNOT sort this list! Thus, if your use of this implementation is like mine, in which I always want to reply to messages via the same non-GMail address the message was originally sent to, add the non-Gmail accounts first, in order of your anticipated frequency of use. This way, when you click From: on your replies, your accounts are displayed in a sensible order. Over time it can be quite annoying to have to scroll down past a bunch of accounts to select an address you frequently use on replies. Ask me how I know.
Variation: Alternatively, in Step 1, instead of setting the GMail account to POP the other accounts, you could set all other accounts to forward to the GMail account. This would result in faster receipt of messages sent to those addresses because messages sent to GMail are pushed right away. On the other hand, GMail POPs accounts on an hourly basis which cannot be changed by the user. That said, having GMail set to POP the other accounts can be safer, especially when GMail has server problems (which they do). By checking Leave a copy of retrieved message on the server when setting up the POPping in your GMail account, the messages being POPped by your GMail account will remain in your other accounts.
I think these instructions should be a sticky. :good:
xv-6800 said:
I think these instructions should be a sticky.
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I agree 100%.
I didn't have time to type out all this, but this is great info.
Personally, I have always used your 2nd variation & that works perfectly for me.
xv-6800 said:
Good tip, but, not everyone has access to exhange server-based e-mail accounts. Not to fret, because below is how you can accommodate for e-mail accounts on servers that that don't have Push capabilities. (Please read all steps first before implementing, because your use could dictate in which order you'll want to add accounts in Step 2.)
1) Set up a GMail account to POP all other accounts.
2) In the Mail app, (not the GMail app), add all accounts (both GMail and non-GMail accounts).
3) For each of the non-GMail accounts, go to Settings and do the following:
In General settings, un-check Refresh on open.
In Send & Receive settings, click Update schedule, and under Frequency choose Manual for both Peak times and Off-peak times.
4) For the GMail account, go to Settings, select Receive settings, and under Update schedule choose Push Mail for both Peak times and Off-peak times.
Since the GMail account POPs the non-GMail accounts, any messages from the non-GMail accounts are pushed to the phone. Normally with G-Mail, both on the web and in the GMail app, if you reply to a message, the reply shows a that the reply is coming fron the GMail account, which you might not want, especially with work e-mails. But, in the Mail app you can actually reply reply from the account the message was originally sent to, even though it was pushed to your phone via your GMail account. Simply click Reply, then click From: at the top of your reply and choose the account you want the reply sent from. VOILA!
Tip: Note that accounts in the Accounts List are displayed in the order in which you add them; you CANNOT sort this list! Thus, if your use of this implementation is like mine, in which I always want to reply to messages via the same non-GMail address the message was originally sent to, add the non-Gmail accounts first, in order of your anticipated frequency of use. This way, when you click From: on your replies, your accounts are displayed in a sensible order. Over time it can be quite annoying to have to scroll down past a bunch of accounts to select an address you frequently use on replies. Ask me how I know.
Variation: Alternatively, in Step 1, instead of setting the GMail account to POP the other accounts, you could set all other accounts to forward to the GMail account. This would result in faster receipt of messages sent to those addresses because messages sent to GMail are pushed right away. On the other hand, GMail POPs accounts on an hourly basis which cannot be changed by the user. That said, having GMail set to POP the other accounts can be safer, especially when GMail has server problems (which they do). By checking Leave a copy of retrieved message on the server when setting up the POPping in your GMail account, the messages being POPped by your GMail account will remain in your other accounts.
I think these instructions should be a sticky. :good:
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Now I agree with those settings that you have are good, at my job before we switched from Novell Groupwise to Gmail based, I used to do that to my Gmail account, the main problem I found was the pulling from Gmail can take 5 minutes to a hour to get any e-mail on those accounts, which can be okay for some, just was rendered useless for me.
jazzyjames said:
Now I agree with those settings that you have are good, at my job before we switched from Novell Groupwise to Gmail based, I used to do that to my Gmail account, the main problem I found was the pulling from Gmail can take 5 minutes to a hour to get any e-mail on those accounts, which can be okay for some, just was rendered useless for me.
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Yes, I listed that variation at the bottom of the instructions, specifically to let people know that this might be a good option for time-sensitive communication.
As a matter of fact, I have all work-related e-mail accounts set to send a copy (not a forward) of all messages to my GMail address. So, as soon as they hit my work accounts they get sent to my GMail account, which immediately pushes to my phone. By copying to GMail instead of forwarding, the messages stay in those accounts for safety reasons. I didn't include that info, because not all work e-mail accounts allow users to customize settings to that degree for security reasons, as you often have to have server admin rights to do things of that nature.
On personal accounts that I use for communications that are not time-sensitve, I simply have my GMail account POP those accounts.

gmail account is gone from mail app

Hi All
I have an international galaxy s3, so far I have used it as a regular user without any “shenanigans”
I have 3 mail accounts setup in the mail app
-Gmail
-Hotmail
-Exchange
Since 4 days ago, the gmail account has disappeared from the mail app (I still see it in the settings/accounts & sync)
The other two accounts are still there and working fine
Every time I manually re-add it like a new account into the mail app, it seems to work fine but within a few hours it disappears again, as if it was never there.
I would be very grateful for insight on this
Thank you very much
Elkp

Google Acct and Gmail in Accounts and Sync

Having hard time searching for answers to this due to the fact just about every thread has these keywords....
Here is my situation:
- Dinc2 running latest stock, rooted.
- have had for long time no issues. Received new phone due to warranty issues.
- setup google account and all is well, it is running just fine.
- within Settings>Accounts and Sync I see various accounts (Facebook, weather, etc) and 2 Google accounts (square icon with lower case g, not the gmail icon/account). 1 is for my gmail.com account and 1 is for my corp email (which uses gmail). So all is well.
- I took picture on phone and tried to send it from the gallery via the share icon and selected the gmail option in the list (note sharing via messaging (txt) has worked without issues forever). This brought me to setup of gmail account (I recently turned on 2-step security within google/gmail) and it asked for the application specific password. I got that setup and finished it just thinking it was using the gallery app to send the email so that is why it asked again.
- Once I did that I received email from VZW stating my email account (gmail one) is now setup with VZW, etc, etc. Now I typcially don't use the VZW backup assistant and don't go through any setup of email for VZW (maybe it happened in the background don't know but I have never done that didn't see that notification from VZW before). I know what this is from VZW just not sure why it happened when it did.
- Now when I go into Accounts and Sync I see my 2 original Google accounts, but also see a new Gmail (gmail icon with red M) for my gmail account. So I essentially have 2 'gmail' accounts setup on my phone within the accounts and sync area.
- I only see 1 gmail account when looking at my mail, but have noticed some emails not making and getting notifications saying the gmail account is not setup properly. I click that notification and then click finish setup and it says all is well.
- I tried deleting the gmail account (with red M icon) but it says I can't as it is used by other services on phone.
- I have gone to the VZW site and removed my gmail account from their 'server' and turned off backup assistant on the website as well (was never turned on, on the phone). I don't believe this should be an issue as I shouldn't have to use the VZW 'web email' setup they provide to customers to consolidate emails and provide web access since gmail already does that for me.
Anyone know what may be best way to resolve this? Do I have to have VZW 'web mail' setup? Should I plan to restore phone and again just setup the initial google accounts and just plan not to try and email from gallery and just use the 'attach' feature within the gmail app instead if needed?
I have tested emails from my phone and it seems they work for the most part, but it seems everyone once in a while they fail with that notice the gmail app is not setup properly (and suspect this is VZW screwing things up).
Long post, sorry, just frustrating and confusing and figured I would post it in case others have seen this.
Thanks.

Multiple Accounts?

So since the latest google voice update, instead of selecting a different account for google voice, it now forces you to add the account. Now i'm wondering a) am i the only one sharing a google voice mailbox between 2 phones and b) should i perhaps go to a multi-account setup?
pre update:
my wife had a google account and used my google voice account
i had my own google account, so anytime a message was left for either of us, no matter who's phone we had we could get the message. Now if i had my account to her phone she also gets my gtalk, gmail, etc, unless i set them not to sync, but it's very easy to accidentally start gtalk with the wrong id, etc. It got me thinking, maybe I should create a new gmail account for things we like to mutually have i.e. a voice mail box , calendar and contacts and then we each have our own accounts for gmail, gtalk, etc
Having never used 2 accounts on one phone will this be pretty seamless? Anyone using this method? Anyone have ideas what some of the problems might be with this issue?

Google Voice - notifications from one account are displaying my other GV account

I have two gmail accounts, each with their own Google Voice account. Account 1 is my primary account, and I have even ported my phone number to this account. I'm using this account on my phone (nexus 5), and have 0 issues with this account. All texts, voicemails, etc come through with no issues. Account 2 is largely not used. I would like to use account 2 on my nexus 7, for texts, and maybe making calls if I don't want to give out my real number to someone.
My issue is when I'm logged in to account 2 on my nexus 7, I'm getting text notifications for account 1 on my nexus 7. But if I were to open Google Voice on the nexus 7, once GV refreshes, the texts disappear. It doesn't happen the other way around. If I get a text/vm to account 2, it does not notify my phone, which is logged in to account 1.
I've checked the settings in both GV accounts, and neither account is linked to the other, or to send copies of texts/vm notifications to the other. How do I stop notifications from GV account 1 to stop displaying on account 2? I have cleared cache, data, uninstalled the app. The only thing i have not done, is a reset of the nexus 7.
I was initially logged in to account 1 on my nexus 7, but I would have thought removing the app from the device would have essentially erased all traces of the account 1 on the nexus 7. I even signed out of hangouts, to make sure Google was not treating this like my phone, and sending it both places.
Is account 2 the primary account on that device? Also is sync turned on for voice on account 1?
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ajster1989 said:
Is account 2 the primary account on that device? Also is sync turned on for voice on account 1?
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Account 1 is the primary account for both devices, but I do not send copies of texts to my email.
I'll have to check my tablet when I get home.
Every app that is tied to your gmail will have an option for syncing under thw accounts setting. Try disabling it for account 1.
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Well, there is nothing under the account settings for my google accounts for Google Voice. But, if I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd say Google was out to make me look like a fool. All I did was uncheck the "sync Google +" and "sync Google + photos" from account 1, and now everything is fine. I'm not getting notifications for account 1 under account 2. I hope it stays that way. But I don't think the change for Google+ syncing had anything to do with my issue being resolved.
Oh well....

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