Better to have battery mod connected all the time or not - Moto Z Questions & Answers

I got my Moto Z with battery pack for almost a week now
It seems battery mod drains faster than internal
With normal usage and both fully charged, mod takes around 5 hours to drop to 30% and internal at 100%
Without mod it takes a 10-12 hours for internal to drop to 40%
So after playing around and checking stats I noticed the phone accept the battery mod as an external charger
when battery mod is connected its like it is connected to charger so it wont doze or deep sleep and so that causes the battery mod drain very fast
So ...
for those who got the battery mod, I think its best not to connect the battery mod all the time, and use it as a charger when needed.

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Are you using @janjan his ROM? There are some optimizations, battery saving not the least. You also should have the mode set to Efficiency Mode and not Standard, as Standard drains more power to keep the battery at 100% all the time, while Efficiency is much better for both the Internal Battery and Battery Pack.

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yanniclord said:
Are you using @janjan his ROM? There are some optimizations, battery saving not the least. You also should have the mode set to Efficiency Mode and not Standard, as Standard drains more power to keep the battery at 100% all the time, while Efficiency is much better for both the Internal Battery and Battery Pack.
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I'm using @JackyGreen Rom, but will try @janjan too
The deference between standard and efficiency mode is not much, tried both.
As soon as battery drop to 80% which took around 3-4 hours on my average daily usage, it will be the same,
Phone uses mod as charger and will not sleep/doze and drain all the mod juice to keep battery at 80% and that takes up to 4-5 hours max.

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I think its best if the mode has a 3rd option,
for example, start charging the phone at 50% and go up to 80%

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papampi said:
I think its best if the mode has a 3rd option,
for example, start charging the phone at 50% and go up to 80%
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Me too... I'm not sure if this can be obtained by kernel or by Rom (system)...
This could be a good tip for @janjan or @erfanoabdi for their future development... :fingers-crossed:

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enetec said:
Me too... I'm not sure if this can be obtained by kernel or by Rom (system)...
This could be a good tip for @janjan or @erfanoabdi for their future development... :fingers-crossed:
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I don't know if moto mod manager is open source we can do that, else we should somehow hack apk file (maybe with Xposed)

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erfanoabdi said:
I don't know if moto mod manager is open source we can do that, else we should somehow hack apk file (maybe with Xposed)
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Any way to make the battery mod a bit more convenient would be much appreciated.
For now, I just keep it in my car dashboard and use it as a charger when needed.

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I've noticed that my phone seems to doze when the battery pack is connected. Obviously it isn't as much as if the battery pack isn't connect, but my phone will sleep even with the mod connected. The behavior oddly didn't seem to appear until after about a weekof using the mod, but I can confirm that the battery pack does not keep the phone away as much as a regular external battery would

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papampi said:
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As soon as battery drop to 80% which took around 3-4 hours on my average daily usage, it will be the same,
Phone uses mod as charger and will not sleep/doze and drain all the mod juice to keep battery at 80% and that takes up to 4-5 hours max.
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I'm testing my Moto Z with my Incipio and I don't see this behaviour on my phone: as soon as the main battery reach 80%, the charge start only every some minutes for short time laps just to mantain the 80% level...
This shouldn't create big issues with Doze mode and sleeping since of the short periods of charging... just look at the attached explaining screenshot...

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To answer to topic question, in my first days of use, it seems to me that Incipio battery is a lot more efficient if used to throttle charging Moto Z ever @80% than toe charging it from lower levels.
In the second case it discharges very fast, while in first one it seems able to do it's work very efficiently with lower discharge rates... :fingers-crossed:
These are only impressions obviously...

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Are there any cases/bumpers for the phone with the Incipio pack? It's a little slippery for me, so was hoping for a bumper that has some soft ridges or is matte.

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andydumi said:
Are there any cases/bumpers for the phone with the Incipio pack? It's a little slippery for me, so was hoping for a bumper that has some soft ridges or is matte.
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I got the Verizon bumper. It allows for swapping of mods also. Gives it a little grip.
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andydumi said:
Are there any cases/bumpers for the phone with the Incipio pack? It's a little slippery for me, so was hoping for a bumper that has some soft ridges or is matte.
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I ordered a bumper directly from https://www.incipio.com/
https://www.incipio.com/cases/smart...roid-cases/moto-z-droid-co-molded-bumper.html
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swejuggalo said:
I ordered a bumper directly from https://www.incipio.com/
https://www.incipio.com/cases/smart...roid-cases/moto-z-droid-co-molded-bumper.html
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Half off right now btw
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Hi, I use a Moto Z but do not have the battery mod. But theoretically, you could hack in a way to control the charging of your phone with the battery mod even while keeping it plugged in all the time. You'll have to open up the battery mod and solder a miniature switch between the VCC line of the mod to the connector pin interface on the mod to do this. So only when the switch is closed, the mod starts to charge the device.
Like I said I do not have a battery mod to try this, but this is probably the easiest way to do it.

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papampi said:
I think its best if the mode has a 3rd option,
for example, start charging the phone at 50% and go up to 80%
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checkout my tool and Efficiency Mode Enhancer : https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/themes/app-battery-mod-percentage-t3575753
erfanoabdi said:
I don't know if moto mod manager is open source we can do that, else we should somehow hack apk file (maybe with Xposed)
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after my works on mod manager app and custom roms i figured out how is this working and made tool with Xposed to change Efficiency Mode values
(Working with unofficial Nougat Xposed)