A way to root without flashing/wiping? - Verizon LG G3

Hi there!
I simply want to backup all my text messages using Titanium Backup. I was able to do this before when I had 5.1 on my LG G3, but after a broken phone and having marshmallow preinstalled on the replacement phone, I didn't worry about it since Marshmallow for the LG was actually a huge upgrade and it retained all the great phone features (like the camera). Now, I'm going to get a new phone and want to transfer my text messages, but Verizon only keeps 3 months of messages or something like that. I also want to be able to do a factory reset, but I need to backup my messages first.
I checked through some various threads (this one kept popping up): http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/verizon-lg-g3-one-toolkit-vs985-root-t3124846 , but it seems like you have to get rid of firmware, which usually requires a complete flash and a new OS, but I really don't want to do that.
Help please! Por Favor! Bitte!

No one...?

Please don't be impatient. I'll answer just as soon as I have time to carefully read your post, unless someone else answers first.
First, some questions. What are you using for texting right now? Verizon Messages automatically backs up and restores text messages over the internet and I was under the impression that it backs up everything, but maybe I'm wrong.
Even if you're not using VZ Messages right now, you can switch to it in order to have it back up your texts automatically as all the text message apps access the same central store of text messages on your phone.
Also, I assume the phone you're switching to isn't an LG? Otherwise you would be able to use the built-in LG Backup to back up and restore whatever you want, including text messages.
I don't know if you could use Titanium Backup with KingRoot, if KingRoot will root your phone. KR provides a temporary root until you reboot, and then you need to use it to root your phone again. It requires internet every time you root your phone with it and installs a bunch of stuff behind the scenes too, but just grasping at straws for ideas.
I don't know if there are any alternate text message apps you could also install that have some kind of built-in backup ability.
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Yes, sorry, just trying to get the messages backed up before something crazy happens. And no, I doubt I will stay with LG, though a friend got the LG V20 and he really likes it, otherwise I was going to be going with the Moto Z Play for the great battery life it seems to be offering. Verizon might store everything...that is a possibility, I was under the impression it was only 90 days of past messaging though.
All my old tricks for trying to root don't seem to work with Marshmallow though and all the advanced security stuff they put on to prevent rooting.

Anyone else...?

is titanium backup a must for backing up your text messages? if you're willing to try other apps, there are sms backup apps out there that don't require root. http://play.google.com/store/search?q=sms%20backup&c=apps give one of them a shot. i don't have any experience with them though. i use titanium backup to back up my text messages and call logs.

@roirraW "edor" ehT is correct. You can backup your text messages using VZW. That's how I do it.
But there some free apps that will do it as well. I used to use one, but I can't remember what is now since I just use VZW's cloud to backup my text messages.
Their Message+ app will restore them for you. You can just that first to restore your messages and then switch to another default text app after that.

iBolski said:
@roirraW "edor" ehT is correct. You can backup your text messages using VZW. That's how I do it.
But there some free apps that will do it as well. I used to use one, but I can't remember what is now since I just use VZW's cloud to backup my text messages.
Their Message+ app will restore them for you. You can just that first to restore your messages and then switch to another default text app after that.
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I confirmed with a Verizon agent that it is only 3 months of text messages. Though, the agents have often been wrong on such topics. Titanium is great because it actually backs up MMS as well, keeping all the photos inline with the messages. When I tried to use other, non-TB backup apps, they seemed to not actually backup the MMS. I could be wrong though...

Is anyone aware of an app that can upload these into their database? Like google messenger?

thegreataus said:
Is anyone aware of an app that can upload these into their database? Like google messenger?
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There is one app I used to use that would back up your messages to the Google cloud.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=backup.email.inapp
I don't know if it still works. It states it is still compatible with the G3 from my Google Play entry. The last time it was updated was back in 2014, so whether this still works on Marshmallow or not is something I cannot answer to since I don't use it anymore.
I use the LG Backup tool which works just fine for backing up text messages and restoring them and it doesn't require root.

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Is there a way to restore TXT messages from a nandroid backup?
I'm SBFin to 2.3.5 to install Eclipse 2.0.1.......
I dont want to use an app from the market....
Isn't there a way to just push something from the nandroid backup to somewhere in /data?
I remember seeing someone talking about this, but all search turns up with people saying use "this" from the market its free!
Does anyone know if this is even possible? Not really a big deal if not, I just like having all my threads there with the history.....
** Is there a way to manually insert my old call log too? **
Thanks guys!
Why are you against using an app from the market? Just a curiosity question.
Yeah this can't help you for this current situation, but MyBackup Root is an excellent app from the Market. I use it to restore SMS, MMS, all my apps, data, etc. I definitely recommend it.
Not 100% sure but I believe you can restore you texts with handset.
I know you're not going to like this, but the only way I really know of is using an app. Not sure why you have such an aversion to doing this as many of them are free.
I use GO SMS (it's free) and that will allow you to backup and restore your text messages. I believe, as someone else has stated, Handcent does this as well. It's also free.

[Q] Full Phone Backup and Restore

Hi Guys,
The iphone had itunes where whenever you update to a new IOS, it will restore everything with a simple click (contacts, sms, apps, settings, everything etc). From what I have read, Titanium backup seems to do this however, it requires root access. As well, I've tried to use the PC Companion backup/restore function, while it claims that it backed up my text messages, when I tried to restore, all it did was restore my pictures, it seems to restore nothing else. Therefore, my question is, is there a program available that will do a FULL backup/restore without the need for root access?
bill1clinton said:
Hi Guys,
The iphone had itunes where whenever you update to a new IOS, it will restore everything with a simple click (contacts, sms, apps, settings, everything etc). From what I have read, Titanium backup seems to do this however, it requires root access. As well, I've tried to use the PC Companion backup/restore function, while it claims that it backed up my text messages, when I tried to restore, all it did was restore my pictures, it seems to restore nothing else. Therefore, my question is, is there a program available that will do a FULL backup/restore without the need for root access?
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No. You need root and/or unlocked bootloader (for using CWM) to do a full backup.
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Mybackup allows you to back up applications & media and data. To backup images of the ROM you'll need xRecovery and thats not possible in your case as the guy above me mentioned clearly.
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bill1clinton said:
Hi Guys,
The iphone had itunes where whenever you update to a new IOS, it will restore everything with a simple click (contacts, sms, apps, settings, everything etc). From what I have read, Titanium backup seems to do this however, it requires root access. As well, I've tried to use the PC Companion backup/restore function, while it claims that it backed up my text messages, when I tried to restore, all it did was restore my pictures, it seems to restore nothing else. Therefore, my question is, is there a program available that will do a FULL backup/restore without the need for root access?
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A simple answer is NO. You need root access to backup application data.
When I saw the Backup & Restore option under PC Companion, like you I also wa delighted and tested it for disappointment.
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Sikiduck said:
Mybackup allows you to back up applications & media and data. To backup images of the ROM you'll need xRecovery and thats not possible in your case as the guy above me mentioned clearly.
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I don't need to backup the ROM. I only want things such as contacts, sms, settings, apps backed up.
I do apologizes if I sound like I'm being an Apple fanboy. However, as restrictive and annoying itunes was, it certainly did an excellent job in getting you up and running very quickly and easily.
bill1clinton said:
I don't need to backup the ROM. I only want things such as contacts, sms, settings, apps backed up.
I do apologizes if I sound like I'm being an Apple fanboy. However, as restrictive and annoying itunes was, it certainly did an excellent job in getting you up and running very quickly and easily.
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Agreed on your point with iTunes, but the concept of Google is to keep as much as possible off to the cloud.
There are plenty of apps out there on the Play store.
I use SMS Backup & Restore to backup SMS. It does a pretty good job and it can be scheduled as well if you like.
Contacts can be sync to Google and again, you can export the contacts to SD Card if you prefer that way.
The applications and their data (if allowed by the developer), settings are also can be backed up to the Google servers if you enable the option Settings --> Privacy --> Back up my data. I tested this and majority of the apps don't support it, yet. I guess app developers will support in the future.
LiveSquare said:
Agreed on your point with iTunes, but the concept of Google is to keep as much as possible off to the cloud.
There are plenty of apps out there on the Play store.
I use SMS Backup & Restore to backup SMS. It does a pretty good job and it can be scheduled as well if you like.
Contacts can be sync to Google and again, you can export the contacts to SD Card if you prefer that way.
The applications and their data (if allowed by the developer), settings are also can be backed up to the Google servers if you enable the option Settings --> Privacy --> Back up my data. I tested this and majority of the apps don't support it, yet. I guess app developers will support in the future.
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Thanks for the helpful advice. I certainly do appreciate it. If I may though, Android being that much more customizable then iOS, I find it rather strange that there is no program that serves the same purpose as iTunes. I love how much I can customize my experience with Android, however, it certainly presents quite a significant annoyance when there is a need to re-do all your customization just because you updated to a new firmware. Once again, not trying to troll, just puzzled.
bill1clinton said:
Thanks for the helpful advice. I certainly do appreciate it. If I may though, Android being that much more customizable then iOS, I find it rather strange that there is no program that serves the same purpose as iTunes. I love how much I can customize my experience with Android, however, it certainly presents quite a significant annoyance when there is a need to re-do all your customization just because you updated to a new firmware. Once again, not trying to troll, just puzzled.
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Oh, definitely not trolling - it really is annoying. Especially when there's an option in Android to "back up all my settings and application data to the cloud" but it does not back up all savegames, nor SMS, etc etc. Much like you, I kinda expected a bit more here.
This is probably why SE put in it's own backup/restore service.
bill1clinton said:
Thanks for the helpful advice. I certainly do appreciate it. If I may though, Android being that much more customizable then iOS, I find it rather strange that there is no program that serves the same purpose as iTunes. I love how much I can customize my experience with Android, however, it certainly presents quite a significant annoyance when there is a need to re-do all your customization just because you updated to a new firmware. Once again, not trying to troll, just puzzled.
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Rashkae said:
Oh, definitely not trolling - it really is annoying. Especially when there's an option in Android to "back up all my settings and application data to the cloud" but it does not back up all savegames, nor SMS, etc etc. Much like you, I kinda expected a bit more here.
This is probably why SE put in it's own backup/restore service.
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From the day I bought my first Android phone (X10), I've been puzzling and searching for this very answer and the same software an option like you mentioned. But until today, I haven't found one.
But I'm pretty sure that Google will surely hear this and will implement a new one or improve the existing one. Until those days come....
I came across a guide on how to back up everything on the galaxy nexus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
I don't have a galaxy nexus & I haven't tried it myself.
I found freeware software that lets you backup apps (and you don't need to download the additional data when you restore them), texts and contacts, which worked pretty fast and didn't crash or hang like PC Companion tends to do.
It's called Wondershare MobileGO.
http://www.wondershare.com/android-manager/
May not be completely what you had in mind as it doesn't backup settings and such, but at least you don't need root and it backs up quite a lot of useful stuff.
Snmjm said:
I came across a guide on how to back up everything on the galaxy nexus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
I don't have a galaxy nexus & I haven't tried it myself.
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I guess it only works in ICS. Tried it on XS and get an error "adb: cannot open file ./backup.ab" (of course, I tried the solution provided in the thread, but didn't work).

Two Questions... Phone book & App Backup

I I was wondering if there are any programs where I could do GREAT backups.
Mainly 1 for phonebook, so that I can safely copy all my contacts and modify them from the computer. I have like 300 numbers but want to erase 200 of them while still having them on computer if I need them. I can't find a reliable app to do this so am wondering if anyone has any experiences in it.
The 2nd backup I'm looking for is an APP one. It doesn't hve to necessarily backup the apps, but at least be able to queue all of them I want RE-installed and download them all from the google play store or something. I want to get into flashing ROMS, but I have like 7 pages of apps already that I don't want to lose, as I'm still sorting through trying to find the ones that work best for me so I can remove all the extras.
First off, I think these could've been answered by searching, so please do that in the future.
If your contacts are stored as Google contacts (as they should be), you can edit them from GMail. On the top left corner of the page, there is a menu that says "GMail." Click it and select "Contacts." I've found this to be the easiest way. It'll also always backup your contacts, and you can restore old versions of your contact list if you need to do so. (Since you talk about wanting to delete them from the phone, but keep a record of them, if you delete them from GMail and remember the date when you had them all in there, you can always restore it back to that date and they'll all be back.)
Also, from the People app, you can go to Menu -> Manage Contacts, and export the data.
Regarding backing up apps, this is the main reason I don't think you've done any research at all. There's a very-well-talked-about app called Titanium Backup that will backup and restore every app on your phone. You have to buy the key for it to restore all of them without your involvement--the free version requires you to give permissions to install each app.
First off, I did search prior to asking the question and could not find what I was looking for. There is no need to be rude, as searching was obviously the first step anyone would or at least SHOULD take before asking such a question.
As for your replies, I have chosen sync in my contacts, but they will not show up in Google for some reason. I've tried tons of ways, and it shows like it is syncing, but when I check... nothing there. I don't know if something is wrong in my settings or what, but I've tried many times... it just won't work for me for some reason. Maybe it's because I have 6 google accounts attached to phone, and even though I'm only syncing 1, it is mixing them up or something.
And I already have Titanium Backup, it keeps crashing on my phone for some reason, which is why I was looking for an alternative. I have over 300 apps on my phone right now. I know that's horrid, but I downloaded a ton of them for the same things so I can test them and find the ones I liked best, in which I plan to mark them all, re-flash the phone with whatever ROM (later once full rooting with S-off and everything has been tested more thoroughly), and only install those apps I liked, which should bring it down to maybe 100 apps or so.
I do understand I might SEEM like I didn't search, but trust me... I did.
Anyways, I thank you for your response (both the neg and the pos), and your time was greatly appreciated. I am about to toy with my settings and see if something is blocking the sync or something. I didn't know you could export from the people app though, so thanks for that especially.
UPDATE:
Man, thanks! That export feature is NICE! going to see how easy it is to modify it shortly, hopefully it's readable in Excel.
Regarding Titanium Backup, you are rooted and have granted Titanium Backup superuser permissions, correct?
Yes, I used that 1 click .bat file (from the first method that was shown). I think my superuser app was corrupt, so I re-downloaded it and it's working fine now. Thank you.
chinchillables said:
Yes, I used that 1 click .bat file (from the first method that was shown). I think my superuser app was corrupt, so I re-downloaded it and it's working fine now. Thank you.
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I ran into an issue with TB when I tried restoring from my OG EVO. I am rooted in the EVOLTE but not running a custom ROM. the ROM I was running was deodexed. Stock EVOLTE is not so I was unsuccessful in my restore. I bought mybackup pro and WA able to restore SMS and .MMS this way. Not sure I'd you are having the same issues or not though
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I agree, all contacts should be on google...then theres no worry about backups (ive had 3 android phones and a tablet and they all auto sync the contacts instantly).
Editing them on the computer is a breeze, the duplicate find/merge feature is simple and works very well.
What exactly are you all doing to make them sync though?
I went to Accounts & Sync
> selected the one GMAIL that I want the numbers synced to and hit sync now, but it doesn't do anything.

[Q] SMS/Text messages disappearing

Hi,
Sorry if this question has been answered elsewhere, but I couldn't seem to find anything on it, and everything I did find seemed to mostly be for Froyo on much older phones... The cause might still be the same but don't know.
Anyway, I recently installed SynergyRom on my Galaxy S4, I'm also admittedly a hoarder of text messages, and have 11,000 or so text messages backed up through sms backup & restore. I kind of like having them all on my phone (yes, I've read before that sometimes restored messages cause minor issues, but I like it *shrug*). Anyway, I restored the messages to my phone, and eventually when I was texting someone, the stock messaging app got a force close, after which, all of my messages had disappeared. I didn't think much of it, restored again, and then today when I received a text the app force closed again, and all my messages disappeared again. Any thoughts?
Hopefully the answer isn't just I need to be less crazy about saving texts, but if that's really the cause, that's it.. Anyway, help/suggestions would be appreciated. T hanks!
Waiting for the answer too. I did not root my phone or anything, just the original phone from store. Sometimes the messages in message app disappear. The phone shows "there is no message", the only thing I can do is create new message. After I restart the phone, the messages come back in the message app.
I know by default in the messaging settings that there is a setting check box for "delete old messages....seems after so many message it will delete from a certain point...something like 200 messages...deletes oldest first. Go in and uncheck the box...see if that helps. Having that many texts is nuts...your a texting border...
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Yea, I know about limits, and that's definitely not it.. I've heard other people say the text messages come back after you restart, but I'm not sure if that's only if you restart right away without sending more texts.. Mine didn't come back after a restart at least, but I didn't restart until much later.. Thanks for the suggestions so far though!
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NeonCloud said:
Hi,
Sorry if this question has been answered elsewhere, but I couldn't seem to find anything on it, and everything I did find seemed to mostly be for Froyo on much older phones... The cause might still be the same but don't know.
Anyway, I recently installed SynergyRom on my Galaxy S4, I'm also admittedly a hoarder of text messages, and have 11,000 or so text messages backed up through sms backup & restore. I kind of like having them all on my phone (yes, I've read before that sometimes restored messages cause minor issues, but I like it *shrug*). Anyway, I restored the messages to my phone, and eventually when I was texting someone, the stock messaging app got a force close, after which, all of my messages had disappeared. I didn't think much of it, restored again, and then today when I received a text the app force closed again, and all my messages disappeared again. Any thoughts?
Hopefully the answer isn't just I need to be less crazy about saving texts, but if that's really the cause, that's it.. Anyway, help/suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!
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I konw some data recoverying program will help to restore text messages from phone directly.
Not sure about retrieving from an app.
Visit CNET you might find something useful.
Was this ever solved? I'm having this too on STock mj7

Advice on backing up and restoring my Samsung Galaxy S6

Hey everyone!
My Samsung Galaxy S6 is about 6 months old roughly and the battery life has never really been all that great on it anyway, but lately I'm having some much more serious issues with it depleting really quickly, and dropping to 98% as soon as I take it off the charger. Anyway, my query was regarding backing up my phone and the best way to go about it. I came from an iPhone so I've never really had to back up an Android phone before, this is all new to me. I've googled and such but I figured it might be better to ask as I find a lot of the threads about it and posts in general online are quite old and maybe outdated now.
I want to be able to back up app data, contacts, messages, bookmarks (if thats a thing), login data, and so forth. I know photos and any files can be transferred to my macbook so I'm not too worried about that.
I have a Macbook so I'm not sure on what backup/restore programs are available or whether there is anything I can use to transfer files and such.
I don't know whether this will fix my problem but I figure it's well overdue for a restore anyway so who knows, maybe it'll help a little. Otherwise, I have it insured so I can always see about a fix if it's the battery itself that's faulty.
If you are stock without root or mods then Samsung Smart Switch should work. Google also syncs most things like apps and data, contacts, wifi passwords, etc and you can use a multitude of apps to backup call logs and texts. If you are rooted, you can use something like Titanium Backup. Then copy your internal storage to your Mac. Reset and copy back.
es0tericcha0s said:
If you are stock without root or mods then Samsung Smart Switch should work. Google also syncs most things like apps and data, contacts, wifi passwords, etc and you can use a multitude of apps to backup call logs and texts. If you are rooted, you can use something like Titanium Backup. Then copy your internal storage to your Mac. Reset and copy back.
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Ah yes I forgot to mention - my phone is not rooted. Are there any apps you recommend to back up texts and such? I didn't know whether Smart Switch was just for when you were switching phones.. I'm guessing it can restore once everything is backed up and the phone has been reset? Will make sure to back things up to Google too. Thanks
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/smart-switch-support/#!/faqs/1
They have a Mac version. It should be able to backup your messages and such according to their FAQs. I like Call Log Backup and Restore and SMS Backup and Restore for apps on the phone. Very simple and works for most any phone or Android version.
If you're not rooted Samsung Kies should be able to do the backup for you.
popthosegaskets said:
If you're not rooted Samsung Kies should be able to do the backup for you.
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With the S6 / S6 Edge, they introduced Smart Switch to replace Kies.
Thanks all! Will look into SmartSwitch and the other aforementioned apps. Really appreciate it! Also, is there any other way to connect the phone to my Macbook other than using Android File Transfer? I find the application very buggy and it keeps disconnecting from the phone when I'm trying to do stuff.
I don't use Macs, but I would suggest either an app like Wifi File Explorer Pro or if you are comfortable with command line stuff, just use adb.

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