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I often see a few apps running in the background and wonder why they are not Grenified. This happens to me most with YouTube, Google Drive & Titanium Backup. There doesn't seem to be a reason why they should run in the background, thus I'd expect them to be hibernated by Greenify.
I have a rooted LG L7 II device running CM11.
Digdis said:
I often see a few apps running in the background and wonder why they are not Grenified. This happens to me most with YouTube, Google Drive & Titanium Backup. There doesn't seem to be a reason why they should run in the background, thus I'd expect them to be hibernated by Greenify.
I have a rooted LG L7 II device running CM11.
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Did you Greenify those apps? I had to ask since you didn't specifically say so. Also, is Greenify enabled in Device Administrators and Accessibility settings? And are you running Greenify in Root mode or Boost mode?
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Did you Greenify those apps? I had to ask since you didn't specifically say so. Also, is Greenify enabled in Device Administrators and Accessibility settings? And are you running Greenify in Root mode or Boost mode?
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Thanks. Gotta to admit that I didn't Greenify them manually, but waited for Greenify to do it automatically. I now sent them manually to hibernation and will keep track on whether they run in the background as they did before.
However, isn't the whole point behind Greenify that you don't need to do it manually, but let Greenify do that for you? AFAIK, neither of these apps have anything to do in the background, so isn't Greenify supposed to notice that and send them to hibernation?
Digdis said:
Thanks. Gotta to admit that I didn't Greenify them manually, but waited for Greenify to do it automatically. I now sent them manually to hibernation and will keep track on whether they run in the background as they did before.
However, isn't the whole point behind Greenify that you don't need to do it manually, but let Greenify do that for you? AFAIK, neither of these apps have anything to do in the background, so isn't Greenify supposed to notice that and send them to hibernation?
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Greenify doesn't automatically greenify(!) any app. There are many apps running in the background, some required, some not required. So you make the choice to greenify whatever you choose to, depending on your requirements. This is because if you greenify all the apps running in the background, you will lose some functionality. While you may choose to greenify one particular app because you don't need it to run in the background, I may not agree with you since I may require its functionality. So to each his own. That is the beauty of Greenify, that it allows you to choose.
However, once you greenify a particular app, Greenify takes over and further greenifying that app is automatic.
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Greenify doesn't automatically greenify(!) any app. There are many apps running in the background, some required, some not required. So you make the choice to greenify whatever you choose to, depending on your requirements. This is because if you greenify all the apps running in the background, you will lose some functionality. While you may choose to greenify one particular app because you don't need it to run in the background, I may not agree with you since I may require its functionality. So to each his own. That is the beauty of Greenify, that it allows you to choose.
However, once you greenify a particular app, Greenify takes over and further greenifying that app is automatic.
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Thanks for your answer. I did Greenify apps manually in the past, ones that I considered their running in the background as unnecessary (such as a shopping app I had which kept notifying me of new deals). However, I thought that Greenify could somehow identify apps who run in the background without need, and so it would send them to hibernation automatically. Guess I was wrong here.
Hello,
So I was using Greenify and hibernate Facebook app, but with the last week or so. My facebook app sometime doeasnt load, showing "cant connect right now" and I tried to search google. most issues I've found are Greenify's issue on facebook, especially when facebook got hibernated and woke up for a long time. I had to restart my device to getting facebook working again, ridiculous.
so any workaround on this? As we know that facebook app is the worst battery sucker.
I'm using Resurrection Remix 7.1.2 on Mi 5s Plus, rooted and privileged
Thanks.
Best option is to use one of the 'lite' Facebook alternatives which preserve functionality without the corresponding hit on battery life and data consumption. Also make sure non of Greenify's alternative doze/hibernation modes are enabled (aggressive/deep/shallow) as they are known to create side effects with few, if any, corresponding benefits on Android 6 and above. Good luck.
I use greenify in shallow hibernation mode and Facebook works fine and doesn't eat much battery.
With samsung optimize system and android N, I feel my battery did not better when using Greenify - noroot version.
Do you have the same issue or I dont know how to configure Greenify?
I stopped using greenify.
Yes, I have apps still running in the background which Greenify stops. I can see this on Better Battery Stats.
I stopped using Greenify. I don't find a need for it. I've got an unlocked S8+ with device maintenance and it tells me which apps are using more than 1%of battery.
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I've also stopped using it. Samsung has done a fine job with device maintenance closing down apps that run in the background.
No need whatsoever
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The modern Android scheduler does a better job at this than apps like greenify will be able to.
Agreed with everyone else that needing it is obsolete
i don't use greenify anymore too. samsung making better system battery usage anymore. this is the end of Greenify on samsung
+1, no need for greenify
Do you have some services you don't want to run in background that starts itself even after you've closed them? Then yes, you still need greenify.
Gave Greenify a try (thought we didn't need it anymore) and it does help improve from a ram management perspective to keep thos background running apps under control.
Will keep it!
I still think we need it, at least if you're rooted. I never use it uprooted though. A lot better with xposed as well
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Greenwich helps. Definitely. While the Samsung system closes the apps running in background, when I open greenify it still shows them as running in back ground. I can shut them off
I'm running a lineageos based custom rom on a samsung tablet. So it doesn't have the device maintenance app. I found that when I use greenify in conjunction with another app (shutapp) my battery and ram life have increased drastically! I use the widget from shutapp so I don't have to grant the extra permissions. This app actually shows you which apps are running in the background and keeps a number on the widget. I greenify those apps that I can't tell are running when I add apps in greenify and voila! The increase speed and battery has begun. Just thought I'd share a method that has been working for me!
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oui, même avec samrtphone récent, greenify améliore la batterie (en version payante bien sûre).
je viens de l etester sur samsung S22 5G.
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yes, even with a recent smartphone, greenify improves the battery (in the paid version of course).
I just tested it on Samsung S22 5G.
On my Mate 9 (running Oreo 8.0, no root) I installed Greenify, but Greenify displays that e.g. Opera is greenified, but in an Android task manager (Android Assistant app) it shows it is still eating CPU. The same applies to e.g. Brave browser which has 'no background' according to Greenify.
Does Greenift really hibernate apps ?
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On my Mate 9 (running Oreo 8.0, no root) I installed Greenify, but Greenify displays that e.g. Opera is greenified, but in an Android task manager (Android Assistant app) it shows it is still eating CPU. The same applies to e.g. Brave browser which has 'no background' according to Greenify.
Does Greenift really hibernate apps ?
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Of course it does. The size/activity in this forum plus frequent mentions in respected publications over many years should offer some clues to its integrity. Whether it is working on your device is a different matter.
Greenify does best on rooted devices as unharnessed ROMs can both undo actions and/or misrepresent status. It's quite possible an app placed in hibernation was later woken via internal trigger that Greenify can not suppress on an unrooted device. In the case of Opera (my preferred browser) there is regular syncing of tabs and downloading of *cough* 'news' if you have those features enabled.
I also question info coming out of the "Android Assistant" app. On my device it claimed all apps had zero CPU...including itself. Also did not display system partitions correctly nor properly detect the sensor suite. Granted I only spent a few minutes poking around. Maybe some switches needed to be thrown.
Finally, you probably don't need Greenify on Oreo as Doze does a find job with power management.
planetera said:
Don't I really need Greenify on oreo? Is Doze on Oreo really that good? Can you confirm please? I've been always using Greenify but if I don't need it on Oreo, I'll remove it
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Well don't take my word for it. Simply remove all apps from Greenify's hibernation list (hopefully there are not many there), observe device behavior over the next few days then make your own decision.
planetera said:
Well, thanks for information. Just made a quick research and everyone says Greenify is trash on Oreo. So I just uninstalled it. Thanks for heads up. Glad I've seen your comment
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Trash? Err-no. I have it installed on every one of my devices for valid reasons. Needed for generic power management on Doze capable ROMs? Probably not (and as such serving no purpose). Enjoy your device.
planetera said:
ok, but, when Greenify hibernates an app, you don't get notificaton froms this app, but when Android itself hibernates the app, you still get notifications, how does these two compare?
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It varies by app, developer approach and user settings. Many apps will experience delayed notifications with Doze while other punch right through. Greenify can be configured to permit notifications but only if the app utilizes GCM (Firebase). Aggressive doze, light hibernation, Xposed framework availability and several other variables contribute to notification behavior. If your head is spinning it should! End users should not need to know the contents of the underwear drawer. Best practice is to simply let Android do its thing without 3rd party tools unless one understands their behavior and application. At one time such tools were needed to achieve acceptable app/device performance and battery life. Not so today. Is such a simplistic solution 'optimal' form an enthusiasts point-of-view? Probably not. It is acceptable/reasonable from an end-user perspective? In most cases 'yes' yielding a good balance of performance and battery life with minimal interaction for those who simply want to enjoy their device vs. manage it. Good luck with whatever direction you choose.
Agree one hundred percent!
Greenify on Oreo is an appendage that is best left out in my opinion, since for most, Oreo itself manages the drain admirably. Though I have it installed, it is more by way of habit than necessity. I have experienced Oreo without Greenify and have no complaints.
Greenify is STILL works.
But its benefit on recent Android versions is not as prominent as on earlier versions.
Coz we already have Doze starting from Marshmallow.
It works for me. I have a samsung tab a 9.7 sm-t550 with an aicp 8.1 rom (lineageos based). Therefore it doesn't have the built-in samsung app device maintenance. I've also discovered a little trick to using greenify that I want to share. I use greenify with another app called shutapp. Shutapp is an app that helps you force stop apps running in the background. Except I don't do that. I use it solely for the purpose of having an accurate number of apps running in the background. Then I open the app to see which ones are running. Next I open greenify and hibernate them. I use this method, because I found that when you force stop the apps they will open back up again. Also, I use the widget from shutapp and not the floating bubble which requires extra permissions granted. The widget does the same thing without the extra permissions. This method I discovered has improved my ram and battery life drastically. I can tell because I use status bar mini pro to monitor my ram speed constantly. And finally I do have Xposed with the donation package of greenify, didn't want to leave that out. Not sure if it makes a difference or not, but wanted to be accurate. That's it, hope that works for somebody else, take care.
I hear that greenify isn't really needed on Oreo but how about the xposed version of greenify? That ads a couple of more features, does any of those change the verdict to "must have on Oreo" for greenify?
ovizii said:
I hear that greenify isn't really needed on Oreo but how about the xposed version of greenify? That ads a couple of more features, does any of those change the verdict to "must have on Oreo" for greenify?
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The verdict doesn't change. Use of Greenify on Oreo may become "must" only if you have a rogue app which can't be controlled otherwise. Even then, it might be better to seek alternative apps instead of trying to control it with Greenify.
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I hear that greenify isn't really needed on Oreo but how about the xposed version of greenify? That ads a couple of more features, does any of those change the verdict to "must have on Oreo" for greenify?
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The verdict doesn't change. Use of Greenify on Oreo may become "must" only if you have a rogue app which can't be controlled otherwise. Even then, it might be better to seek alternative apps instead of trying to control it with Greenify.
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Greenify works just fine on recent Android builds. It is a tool that can be very beneficial when properly used to produce a specific outcome. That said, it is rarely needed on Android 6+ as doze handles most of the heavy lifting. Enjoy using your device vs trying to fix problems you haven't identified.
i have this app but i dont know wich apps to hibernate, because people recommend to hibernate apps that you dont use but i kinda use a lot of apps , and if i use the magisk version can i hibernate apps without missing notifications?
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i have this app but i dont know wich apps to hibernate, because people recommend to hibernate apps that you dont use but i kinda use a lot of apps , and if i use the magisk version can i hibernate apps without missing notifications?
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The only apps that need to be hibernated are those that frequently start or run in the background *and* consume significant resources. This is an infrequent occurrence on Android 6+ as doze keeps most bad actors in check. If you can not identify misbehaving apps there is little benefit to using Greenify.
so not even boost mode with the magisk module will make a difference?
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so not even boost mode with the magisk module will make a difference?
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Just to add to @Davey126's true and clear statement: Most likely not.
As you're obviously using Greenify4Magisk, please allow me to partially quote its OP:
A very simple module just to make Greenify work as a rom-integrated (privileged) app systemlessly (also known as Boost Mode), ...
* Note: You won't get any xposed-side features, since magisk is NOT xposed!
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To ensure not to miss any notification, Greenify needs to run as a Xposed module.
How can you tell that an app constantly restarts in background?
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How can you tell that an app constantly restarts in background?
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Check to see if it (or related processes) are running and, more importantly, consuming excess resources. Built in tools are a starting point including the often ignored/maligned Android battery 'app' and the 'running processes' gadget usually located under developer options. Don't kill everything you see; just because it has a pulse doesn't mean it has to die (or be hibernated).
Can you name a third party root-free most reliable tool for telling how much energy apps drain?
I would be glad to know if apps are consuming excess resources but this is not told by the onboard android 7 tools I know of. If I go to battery more settings the most usage shows to be from android OS, bluetooth (headphones) and screen. Still making full (and probably excessive) use of tools like brevent or greenify does make the battery graph flatten noticeably.
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Can you name a third party root-free most reliable tool for telling how much energy apps drain?
I would be glad to know if apps are consuming excess resources but this is not told by the onboard android 7 tools I know of. If I go to battery more settings the most usage shows to be from android OS, bluetooth (headphones) and screen. Still making full (and probably excessive) use of tools like brevent or greenify does make the battery graph flatten noticeably.
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Built in tools are more than adequate but if you prefer 3rd party give GSAM a whirl as I find it easier to use than BBS (Better Battery Stats). Some also like Accubattery; too much flash and dash for my tastes. Good luck.