Hello!
I have some basic questions about the security of rooted android devices. I'm running Cyanogenmod 11 actually on my SGS3. Of course I rooted it to install custom Recovery and ROM. So is there any possibility for an App to get Root Access without recognition?
I dont need the Root access anymore, I only wanted to install Cyanogenmod and thats it. What to do to fully unroot Cyanogen?
Another question:
If i have enabled "only install from trusted sources" am I safe? Or could there be sort of drive-by-downloads for example on this site sometimes i get the pop-up "your phone has (13) viruses, click ok ...".
Yeah thats it, I'm a little bit paranoid especially according to my passwords, are they safe!?
Thanks a lot and Greets from Germany!
RedMr said:
I'm running Cyanogenmod 11 actually on my SGS3. Of course I rooted it to install custom Recovery and ROM. So is there any possibility for an App to get Root Access without recognition?
I dont need the Root access anymore, I only wanted to install Cyanogenmod and thats it. What to do to fully unroot Cyanogen?
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You can't be unrooted and have CyanogenMod installed; that's an oxymoron. You can, of course, be unrooted without CM installed, but you can't have 'em both.
RedMr said:
If i have enabled "only install from trusted sources" am I safe? Or could there be sort of drive-by-downloads for example on this site sometimes i get the pop-up "your phone has (13) viruses, click ok ...".
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You're safe even without "only install from trusted sources" turned on. Just make sure not to install anything at all that you didn't specifically tell your device to install.
RedMr said:
I'm a little bit paranoid especially according to my passwords, are they safe!?
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Unless you have an actual trojan or virus installed on your phone, your passwords are perfectly safe.
To check and make sure you're secure, download and install the avast! Mobile Security & Antivirus app from Google Play, and run a device scan.
Is there any possibility for getting installed without recognizing?
Can an app get Root permissions without giving them?
RedMr said:
Is there any possibility for getting installed without recognizing?
Can an app get Root permissions without giving them?
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If you're not already, you need to use a Super User app like SuperSU (the best one). It allows you to grant/deniy apps root access. If it asks to grant/deny permission to an app that you didn't install or isn't a function of CM, or simply don't want to grant root access, then deny it permission.
EDIT: As Nookie said, you can't accidentally install something even if you allow installations of apps that aren't from "trusted sources". If you do install apps from non "trusted sources", just be smart about it.
My phone just root and install siratus rom.Then installed xpose installer with some modules. After activate module and restart, everything fine. So i install ViPER4+driver and flash ViPER4 theme. After restart it show pop up " Unfortunately ,T-mobile has stopped" . It's so annoy me a lot. How to get rid of that. I tried to find anyway to uninstall ViPER4 but seem unluck. Anybody know how to?
Have you disabled all T-Mobile related apps in Settings -> Apps?
I think I remember experiencing the same when I rooted my phone and denied root access for Tmobile's app before disabling it. Try disabling all of the T-Mobile apps that you can live without and let us know what you find.
Yep,I found it and now uninstall it and it gone.Thanks for advice me. But another problem is ViPER4 ,it seem hard to uninstall it.I still can't find the way to take it out.
Hey there, I'm running resurrection remix m on lg g2 and apperantly a game called fate/go is detecting custom ROMs. (Its detecting any emus,root related stuff even dev settings & app modification) I keep getting root detection message even after removing root. Safetynet works fine stuff like pokemon works okay but it's detecting somehow. I've tried orion and cm so far and never got this working. Is there any chance to avoid this or find the way it detects me? Something like checking certificates. Thank you all in advance.
if it is detecting your root status then try hide my root app or if you want change permissions then install xprivacy which is a xposed module
Ahmed Alisha said:
if it is detecting your root status then try hide my root app or if you want change permissions then install xprivacy which is a xposed module
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Nope, I removed the root itself and safetynet is working fine. They prolly are checking custom roms in a way.
Newest stable version works but doesn't ask for root privilege. Rooted using Chainfire's supersu.
Also happened to me, but here's the deal, just follow the new setup wizard without root access anyways, then when you have access to the app settings you can change to root mode and force to greenify anything, or try to activate any settings that require root, super su should prompt, then you can grant root access, it's working fine for me now
Best of luck
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Which settings require root? I've toggled all the settings and none of them made it ask for root.
olliebean said:
Which settings require root? I've toggled all the settings and none of them made it ask for root.
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For me it asked for root when I changed settings under "wake up tracking and cut off".
If nothing happens to you reboot your phone and try again, you could also check to see if there is any denied requests of greenery in super su app and manually grant it.
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ghst7 said:
Also happened to me, but here's the deal, just follow the new setup wizard without root access anyways, then when you have access to the app settings you can change to root mode and force to greenify anything, or try to activate any settings that require root, super su should prompt, then you can grant root access, it's working fine for me now
Best of luck
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Oh it works just fine. It's just not showing up in Supersu as having root access.
I have the same problem.
After I updated from the market today I can't get greenify to properly request root access.
When I run it I tell it I'll rooted, see it saying it's requesting root access but supersu doesn't prompt then says it can't get root. Same results with rebooting.
In supersu there are no request prompts from greenify. I deleted the greenify access to see if that would get it to reprompt but it still says can't get root and supersu shows no requests in logs.
Other apps still work fine in supersu.
Edit --
Interesting, I disabled the module in xposed and when it prompts for root supersu pops right up. So I gave it access that way but logs show that once the module is reenabled it never asks for root.
Weird
Can't get root privilege
I've updated it trough the market and followed the wizard. When its given the choice i selected root but response is> there is no root<, so i decided to recheck it manual as suggested in the app)Same problem, no root request popup, not showing in su(chainfire). Also wake up tracker does not remember it's setting.
What i did so far:
Reinstall greenify, reinstall SU, deselect Geenify module and select again in xposed.
Reboot
Never it shows up in SU or get root request permission popup.
On a samsung s4 gt 505 root xposed greenify donate pack. kitkat 4.4.2
rockah said:
I've updated it trough the market and followed the wizard. When its given the choice i selected root but response is> there is no root<, so i decided to recheck it manual as suggested in the app)Same problem, no root request popup, not showing in su(chainfire). Also wake up tracker does not remember it's setting.
What i did so far:
Reinstall greenify, reinstall SU, deselect Geenify module and select again in xposed.
Reboot
Never it shows up in SU or get root request permission popup.
On a samsung s4 gt 505 root xposed greenify donate pack. kitkat 4.4.2
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Got mine to work by deselecting Greenify module in Xposed and rebooting. Started Greenify app and it said to either to activate the Xposed module or select non-root mode. I clicked on Greenify settings and tried to change Xposed settings and a popup window asked if I wanted to activate Xposed module. I selected yes, Xposed started, I selected Greenify module and rebooted. During the bootup process, Greenify asked for root permissions.
A similar process worked for me: deactivated the Xposed module, rebooted, started the Greenify app, then I went into the Greenify settings and turned on the enhanced wake up tracker, which caused Greenify to request root. Granted permission, then reactivated the Xposed module and rebooted again. Checked in SuperSU that Greenify had permissions, then I just had to re-enable the Xposed based features in the Greenify settings.
Having done that, however, I see from the SuperSU logs that Greenify isn't actually requesting any root permissions since I re-enabled the Xposed module. I suspect the new version is using Xposed for all its root access and no longer needs root permissions for the app in Boost (Xposed) mode.
Lots of guessing here.
I tried doing a plain re-install. Greenify comes up with the new setup process, tells me it's going to request root access and then does... nothing. Then it complains it can't get root access and stays there so can't install anymore. Completely broken. Unless I want to go without root which is not my intention as I don't want to use it with a reduced feature set.
dreinulldrei said:
Lots of guessing here.
I tried doing a plain re-install. Greenify comes up with the new setup process, tells me it's going to request root access and then does... nothing. Then it complains it can't get root access and stays there so can't install anymore. Completely broken. Unless I want to go without root which is not my intention as I don't want to use it with a reduced feature set.
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Read prior posts for further guidance. Seems others have got it to work. I had zero/nada/no problems on latest betas w/Xposed and SuperSU 2.76. YMMV.
What can I say.... I do a clean install, the app says it's going to acquire root and then fails. I'd call this a bug... Honestly.
dreinulldrei said:
What can I say.... I do a clean install, the app says it's going to acquire root and then fails. I'd call this a bug... Honestly.
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Using SuperSU? If ≥ 2.77 try 2.76 (terminal build by ChainFire).
BTW - I tend to agree there's a glitch somewhere given complaints; Q&A will hopefully allow dev to isolate/rectify.
I'm using SuperSU v2.78 with the latest Greenify v3.0 build 5 beta and it working fine.
Wonder if I should drop back to v2.76 and how to even do that without losing root?
Davey126 said:
Using SuperSU? If ≥ 2.77 try 2.76 (terminal build by ChainFire).
BTW - I tend to agree there's a glitch somewhere given complaints; Q&A will hopefully allow dev to isolate/rectify.
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---------- Post added at 03:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:43 PM ----------
This page has a link to the SuperSU v2.76 zip on ChainFire's site, which can be flashed with TWRP, etc depending on your phone.
https://www.progeeksblog.com/download-supersu-for-android/
I have not tried to flash it myself.
divineBliss said:
I'm using SuperSU v2.78 with the latest Greenify v3.0 build 5 beta and it working fine.
Wonder if I should drop back to v2.76 and how to even do that without losing root?
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If life is good don't change anything! I'm not out to skewer SuperSU v2.78; the problems I and a few others experienced are likely outliers with various contributing factors. That said, SuperSU 2.76 has been rock solid on my devices as have most of ChainFire's previous releases. Sticking with what works for now.
rockah said:
I've updated it trough the market and followed the wizard. When its given the choice i selected root but response is> there is no root<, so i decided to recheck it manual as suggested in the app)Same problem, no root request popup, not showing in su(chainfire). Also wake up tracker does not remember it's setting.
What i did so far:
Reinstall greenify, reinstall SU, deselect Geenify module and select again in xposed.
Reboot
Never it shows up in SU or get root request permission popup.
On a samsung s4 gt 505 root xposed greenify donate pack. kitkat 4.4.2
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Did all of the above and it doesn't show in supersu. Strange thing is Greenify works with root+boost selected just fine. Doesn't show in su logs either.
If you moved Greenify apk to
"/system/priv-app", it won't need to ask SuperSU for root and won't be in the SuperSU log. Is that the case here?
craigevil said:
Did all of the above and it doesn't show in supersu. Strange thing is Greenify works with root+boost selected just fine. Doesn't show in su logs either.
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If you moved Greenify apk to
"/system/priv-app", it won't need to ask SuperSU for root and won't be in the SuperSU log. Is that the case here?
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Hum - assumed those with Xposed framework left Greenify as a user app. Perhaps not the case for all. As you pointed out one would not necessarily expect a prompt for privileged access if the app resides in "/system/priv-app" depending on how the active SU manager (typically SuperSU) is configured.
I don't think you can do anything to the SuperSU configuration to make it so apps in priv-app have to ask for SU permission. I have other apps in there and have never seen them ask and they are not in SuperSU log either.
I moved my Greenify apk into priv-app because it wasn't clear to me that there was nothing to gain by doing that as I already had Xposed installed and working. Have since moved it back to original folder in /data/app/.
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Hum - assumed those with Xposed framework left Greenify as a user app. Perhaps not the case for all. As you pointed out one would not necessarily expect a prompt for privileged access if the app resides in "/system/priv-app" depending on how the active SU manager (typically SuperSU) is configured.
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- Android 6.0.1
- SuperSU 2.78 (systemless root)
- Xposed
- latest Greenify Beta from PlayStore (in Root+Boost mode)
- NOT installed as system app or anything.
Same problem here -- Greenify never asks for root, is not listed in SuperSU logs. Greenify initially had root access iirc, but one of the updates from PlayStore removed it.
Nevertheless Greenify seems to be working fine though.
EDIT: All other root apps on my phone (OnePlus 2, stock OxygenOS 3.1) don't have any issues with root access.
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