Hello everyone,
Right now I have another thread for the root over ADB with DirtySanta, I've that far. I have a potential method but I need more information on it from somebody else so I am waiting on a response from him, once i have that I'll work on it. If you guys have any other potential ideas that'd be great.
Thanks,
Abine45
This is my link to the root on ADB. I will be updating it tonight or tomorrow for the convenience of others. Thanks for waiting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-v10/general/temporary-root-adb-t3523538
NEW INFORMATION FOUND! I GOT SIGNIFICANT ROOT ACCESS WITH DIRTYSANTA!!!
SO i used the DirtySanta fearing for my life I wouldn't ruin my device, well the v10 failed it. rebooted and it didn't do anything but reboot back into the normal bootloader and stuff. But what i found is that he go the dirty cow to just work under root, so maybe from there we could do something, anybody have any ideas?
people care but it seems kind of like you expect people who have no clue to do any of this to assist. Hence the reason they are willing to pay a rather large sum of money for a bounty.
1. You cannot repackage a TOT file, well you can but, because it is digitally signed so that the locked boot loader will recognize it and allow it access to image the system. Repacking a rooted version on MM or Nougat will brick the phone if it is not digitally signed by LG.
2. You can pull a copy of the boot image with dirty cow but you can do that from the TOT or KDZ. You cannot put a new one in with dirty cow with out bricking the phone.
3. Most likely not. SELINUX policies combined with updates and fixes have removed most of the previous exploits.
4. Nothing personal but if you are asking us where the boot image resides... that does not inspire anyone here to give you a hand. You need to be in the android devs forum asking these questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking
Haxcid said:
people care but it seems kind of like you expect people who have no clue to do any of this to assist. Hence the reason they are willing to pay a rather large sum of money for a bounty.
1. You cannot repackage a TOT file, well you can but, because it is digitally signed so that the locked boot loader will recognize it and allow it access to image the system. Repacking a rooted version on MM or Nougat will brick the phone if it is not digitally signed by LG.
2. You can pull a copy of the boot image with dirty cow but you can do that from the TOT or KDZ. You cannot put a new one in with dirty cow with out bricking the phone.
3. Most likely not. SELINUX policies combined with updates and fixes have removed most of the previous exploits.
4. Nothing personal but if you are asking us where the boot image resides... that does not inspire anyone here to give you a hand. You need to be in the android devs forum asking these questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking
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How did Tungkick manage to repackage it then? The dirty cow exploit can exchange recovery though on an unlocked bootloader so shouldn't I be able to replace the boot image if done correctly wouldn't it work? I could possibly unpack everything and modify it all and test it but the issue comes back to repacking and flashing?
Ask him, but if you attempt to do this on a locked and encrypted boot loader then you will brick the phone. I mean think about it, if it was really just that simple every phone would be rooted and rom'd. Most phones running 6 or above have had the security vastly increased to make the phone secure so they can be used by government employees. Hence the introduction to SELINUX polices into the kernel which is why getting root is so unbelievably difficult. The locked boot loader resets everything at boot so getting root and maintaining is so hard combined with SELINUX does not allow standard root to perm. write anything to the system partition and then good old hboot kills anything you did mange to write on reboot... you can start to see how difficult this really is.
Tungkick did this on 5.1 Lollipop not 6.0 Marshmallow. The above mentioned difficulties with increased SELunix security plus 6.0 and up requires systemless root.
Still would love to know why no dev will go near this Phone. Does XDA have some deal with LG to not hack their phones? Very fishy why every dev avoids this device like it has the plague.
beavis5706 said:
Tungkick did this on 5.1 Lollipop not 6.0 Marshmallow. The above mentioned difficulties with increased SELunix security plus 6.0 and up requires systemless root.
Still would love to know why no dev will go near this Phone. Does XDA have some deal with LG to not hack their phones? Very fishy why every dev avoids this device like it has the plague.
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LG are just not popular devices for hacking due to they make if extremely difficult. LG is a Corp. friendly company it is why Verizon loves them where companies like HTC are a bit more user sympathetic.
Funny you say that
beavis5706 said:
Tungkick did this on 5.1 Lollipop not 6.0 Marshmallow. The above mentioned difficulties with increased SELunix security plus 6.0 and up requires systemless root.
Still would love to know why no dev will go near this Phone. Does XDA have some deal with LG to not hack their phones? Very fishy why every dev avoids this device like it has the plague.
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Funny you say that! Tungick said to me, and i quote "[email protected]#$g you" and blocked me from Facebook. He also told me that he wouldn't tell me because it's a secret. He didn't speak very great English, that's why there is an ing at the end of the F-bomb. I asked Jcase through XDA and he said he wouldn't and so i put it better explanation of help through an email and he said I was harassing him... In which case before hand he said he doesn't develop for LG because he says basically we are A-holes sadly and that we don't live up to our donation pledges.
That's what I'm saying though. It's like no dev will go anywhere near an LG device, at least the newer ones anyway.
They can't be much harder to crack than Samsung and those are getting cracked.
The person who rooted 5.1 on V10 basically tells you to F off. Yeah there is nothing odd about that.
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That's what I'm saying though. It's like no dev will go anywhere near an LG device, at least the newer ones anyway.
They can't be much harder to crack than Samsung and those are getting cracked.
The person who rooted 5.1 on V10 basically tells you to F off. Yeah there is nothing odd about that.
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True, that's why I'm going to try to do it. If you know anything and want to help could use it.
Wish I could help. All I know here is you need systemless root on 6.0+. This has nothing to do with the v10 in particular. Systemless root should work on all devices 6.0+. It has already been achieved on the Galaxy s7 and it has locked bootloader. I don't see any reason why this can't work on the v10.
I just installed Linux on my computer gonna try somethings this weekend... We need to keep in touch
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I just installed Linux on my computer gonna try somethings this weekend... We need to keep in touch
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For sure, message me on xda.
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Wish I could help. All I know here is you need systemless root on 6.0+. This has nothing to do with the v10 in particular. Systemless root should work on all devices 6.0+. It has already been achieved on the Galaxy s7 and it has locked bootloader. I don't see any reason why this can't work on the v10.
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Anybody can help! Do some research and send it and whatever you would like to do. Try different things, Try to modify bits of code and see what you can do! Always gotta start somewhere!
Modify code? You just went way above my head. I know about root, certainly don't know how to achieve it. That's why I count on the folks at XDA. I only have one v10, can't afford to brick it. Plus I already have root on 5.1.1 and I heard that 6.0 causes this phone to have problems.
Many, many v10's were offered up in order to attain root. Not one was taken by any dev. Maybe you can still get your hands on one of those.
You need to find someone that knows about systemless root. Without that you aren't getting anywhere.
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Modify code? You just went way above my head. I know about root, certainly don't know how to achieve it. That's why I count on the folks at XDA. I only have one v10, can't afford to brick it. Plus I already have root on 5.1.1 and I heard that 6.0 causes this phone to have problems.
Many, many v10's were offered up in order to attain root. Not one was taken by any dev. Maybe you can still get your hands on one of those.
You need to find someone that knows about systemless root. Without that you aren't getting anywhere.
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The thing with that is the fact that even if I know how systemless root works, I still have no way to install it, so first I need to find a way to get in the system.
Think I might have a way though
From what I understand systemless root will modify the boot image to attain root. Super SU will decide how to flash based on firmware version. Will automatically root normal with Lollipop and down, will automatically modify boot image on Marshmallow and up. How you will be able to modify the boot image on a VS990 without bricking it I don't know.
In order to do system less root we need a unlocked bootloader... It says that everywhere I'm reading
Hi abine45,
Please read this post completely, the guys here are close to obtain the perma root on android 6, using dirty cow.
https://github.com/timwr/CVE-2016-5195/issues/9
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I looked at this thread... a bit more technical than I am able to do... did it end up working? Looks like no, but I might have missed something.
Thanks!
Related
Hi Everyone,
Wanted to know if anyone has already figured out or through a different method, can help me root my phone.
It's an LG phone under GSM technology by TracFone for Walmart Straight Talk service. the Model is "LG l21g" or "lgl21g".
It is specifically running Android 5.0.1
I've learned it's better to follow a root process specifically made for the exact model of your phone. But since TracFones lack much in rooting fame, I'm hoping that there is a safe method used to provide basic root access to phones/devices that have the respective OS. For which in my case is version 5.0.1
I am new to rooting but not computers in general. I have searched for quite a while for a way to root my device by model. I've found nothing, and AndroidArea51 seemed to have a little success, but are not sharing a clear tutorial sadly. But I am skeptical about 1 click root apps and how they may tend root the device for a few months before unrooting automatically and then forcing the device owner to pay to root again. You know, the old regular malicious hijacking software you can't get rid of without a hard reset or what not.
I am also aware of locked bootloaders but am not sure of what it means for my request to root. Should i unlock mine if it is locked in order to root? Or is it unnecessary unless i want to flash a new rom onto my device? I've obviously read things online, but am still learning the relationships of all these things
I greatly appreciate all your time and help in anyway you can.
Thanks.
I used kingroot for a successful root on my LG destiny. Im hoping for recovery and roms soon but I don't know if any devs are intersted in our phone.
Failbringer60 said:
I used kingroot for a successful root on my LG destiny. Im hoping for recovery and roms soon but I don't know if any devs are intersted in our phone.
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hey Failbringer60,
Hope your holidays were great and thanks for your comment. I am very skeptical of software such as kingroot and iroot and others of the same nature that are usually one-click root types. Though i'm not against using it if it's the only way to root less popular devices such as ours, i would rather have a little tutorial/guide on how to use the app/software to root the device then get rid of that app and its bloatware (and any other malicious ware that comes from it) and sustain a more honest or reliable superuser app/access to more precisely control the permissions that apps from the app store demand before download and use.
I have seen in other forums where users find that these one-click root apps aren't so trustworthy after a few months, and the device doesn't adhere to them as it did before. It's these kinds of things that sort of scare me. but if you are aware of a way to use these apps to gain root access and then a way to get rid of them while keeping root on my device safely, I would be more than glad to learn.
I am very new to rooting android devices since i've never done it before. and am trying to use my knowlegde from some PC maintenince to understand these things. so i hope that you can excuse me for not fully understand some things. But i am open to any help that can be spared.
Thanks in advance
hi
try kingroot on playmarket it worked in my tablert, only takes some minutes if you are lucky
Thanks.
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hey Failbringer60,
Hope your holidays were great and thanks for your comment. I am very skeptical of software such as kingroot and iroot and others of the same nature that are usually one-click root types. Though i'm not against using it if it's the only way to root less popular devices such as ours, i would rather have a little tutorial/guide on how to use the app/software to root the device then get rid of that app and its bloatware (and any other malicious ware that comes from it) and sustain a more honest or reliable superuser app/access to more precisely control the permissions that apps from the app store demand before download and use.
I have seen in other forums where users find that these one-click root apps aren't so trustworthy after a few months, and the device doesn't adhere to them as it did before. It's these kinds of things that sort of scare me. but if you are aware of a way to use these apps to gain root access and then a way to get rid of them while keeping root on my device safely, I would be more than glad to learn.
I am very new to rooting android devices since i've never done it before. and am trying to use my knowlegde from some PC maintenince to understand these things. so i hope that you can excuse me for not fully understand some things. But i am open to any help that can be spared.
Thanks in advance
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Thanks, I hope your holidays were great as well. I understand your reasoning for concern. I haven't been able to successfully use supersu to handle root operations. Busybox will not install correctly either for me. I have successfully achieved root access though through kingroot. I don't remember the version I used but it has been rooted for well over 2 months with zero issues. I have replaced my bootanimations without bootloops as well.
I am currently trying to romdump and pull device tree to see if I can get a KDZ created or ported. As I am trying to get twrp recovery installed. And I think the only way for that to happen is to get to 5.1. But to answer any doubt. My experience with kingroot has been okay. Also rootchecker apps confirm root as well.
Failbringer60 said:
Thanks, I hope your holidays were great as well. I understand your reasoning for concern. I haven't been able to successfully use supersu to handle root operations. Busybox will not install correctly either for me. I have successfully achieved root access though through kingroot. I don't remember the version I used but it has been rooted for well over 2 months with zero issues. I have replaced my bootanimations without bootloops as well.
I am currently trying to romdump and pull device tree to see if I can get a KDZ created or ported. As I am trying to get twrp recovery installed. And I think the only way for that to happen is to get to 5.1. But to answer any doubt. My experience with kingroot has been okay. Also rootchecker apps confirm root as well.
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Thanks for your reply. I apologize for not being able to understand all the technical jargon when it comes to the android platform, but as i ask questions, i can pick up on it fairly quickly.
For now i take it that you are still figuring out a way to backup your android system, since the only offer the LG Destiny has, is to back up your data to google cloud. It seems that either tracfone devices took that ability away (since i think that any computer like device should have a recovery system - though i could be wrong) or it is a flaw in android 5.0.1 which is what our devices are running.
I take it that you are "romdump"-ing to kinda like create a clone in a storage space which you can turn into a recovery rom in case the device messes up - i think.
I'm glad to hear that Kingroot worked for you. I would like to try it too but i would first love to back up my system entirely so that if a noob like me does mess up, i haven't completely lost everything.
Can i ask you if you are able to delete/uninstall bloatware from your Destiny now that you have it rooted. But you say that you are not able to install supersu (which i assume is software that lets you control your device with admin rights)? Reading things online, i've come to see that kingroot has a supersu type of software, but that it's inferior or malicous or something, hence why people are trying to install supersu in replacement. I may be missing some facts there, but i'm always see a relationship between the two.
Would you lose your root access, or ability to remove bloatware and control other app permissions if you removed kingroot? Or is it supersu that retains the root access that kingroot achieved, but people are ridding their devices of kingroot because kingroot inevitably introduces its own bloatware at the price of a rooted device?
Sorry to sound all over the place. I've just seen a consistent connection between kingroot and supersu online everywhere i look. I've never seen how either of these apps work on a device once installed, but i do know that people are always using supersu right after using kingroot.
Exactly, for the LG leon user they got the update to 5.1 which enabled them to unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery for the ability to back up the rom. As for us Destiny users I think we aren't going to ever get anything but root for a while. And yes kingroot does install its own bloat ware. And I have removed all the stock bloatware that came with my phone.
Failbringer60 said:
Exactly, for the LG leon user they got the update to 5.1 which enabled them to unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery for the ability to back up the rom. As for us Destiny users I think we aren't going to ever get anything but root for a while. And yes kingroot does install its own bloat ware. And I have removed all the stock bloatware that came with my phone.
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Hi Failbringer60,
Were you able to somehow successfully backup your Destiny's rom to use as a recovery source? I myself just went through a whole lot of folly and have practically lost my device. I believe my spoiled Destiny is soft-bricked. It will not boot past the LG logo screen. I don't think it's looping since it doesn't fade to black and return repetitively. It's just frozen on that screen. Now i'm diving deep and reading a whole lot more about such problems and solutions, and am learning much more. But sadly, the design Tracfone has left the Destiny (and most likely it's other android models alike) is quite handicapped. I've come to understand that there is absolutely no boot menu with particular options you'd normally find in flagship models, and recovery only works if, well, if the device still works (as far as i've tried everything i know). Part of that recovery would make sense if content was the only concern. Though any system based malfunction is merely a complete loss. I have yet to download and try a few pc applications that others use to connect to their android devices. But since needing exact phone/model firmware or system image backup to fix many android issues are what these pc applications use, and LG having completely omitted the lgl21g model from all their lists on their site (except for the product landing page of course), I have no idea how it would help my situation. For all I've said, i may stand corrected, since i have yet to attempt the revival of my device.
So i hope no one gets annoyed when i ask weird questions, but i'll do what i can and document my findings. If you or anyone else may know how to help me, I would very much appreciate it. If you need more info from me. let me know.
Thanks.
i have been trying root apps like kingroot ect to root with and without pc and it fails everytime.
does boost have something in these phones to prevent it? yes according to kingroot my bootloader was unlocked when i tried rooting. if it helps my device info is
model# LGLs755
hardware. Rev 1.1
android version. 6.0.1
Kernel 3.18.22
build#MXB48T
if their is a way that has worked please let me know...thanks
oh and is their a way to perm unlock the bootloader that wont mess anything up
bigmoe1738 said:
i have been trying root apps like kingroot ect to root with and without pc and it fails everytime.
does boost have something in these phones to prevent it? yes according to kingroot my bootloader was unlocked when i tried rooting. if it helps my device info is
model# LGLs755
hardware. Rev 1.1
android version. 6.0.1
Kernel 3.18.22
build#MXB48T
if their is a way that has worked please let me know...thanks
oh and is their a way to perm unlock the bootloader that wont mess anything up
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Good morning BigMoe1738,
I think that you should try Kingoroot App or iRoot (if you have a PC of course) to root your LG. I have rooted my own LG L3ii using iRoot, but I do not own the LG Ls755.
Please inform me if you try these methods.
Regards,
Apousiologos
I'm finding that the LG x Power is bullet proof. I have tried every kind of way to root it that I can find on the black mart to the internet and youtube. Nothing seems to want to work. The good news is the phone doesn't brick after a failed attempt. That is my experience only. It may freeze up but still can be turned off and back on again.
So I ask... Is there any working things out there?
I want to learn to code to make a way to root if someone wants to help me? Trying to get info to learn how and linux a computer.
Just got a system update from LG... Wondering if I should hold off on it as long as I can?
Such a sad strange sick world we live in where we have to knowingly attempt to make our mobile computers vulnerable to viruses just to have administrative rights to a system we bought and paid for...
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Rooting work with FRP lock enabled?
Hi, I am trying to root my Lg X Power as well. However in preparation of this, I factory reset it, completely forgetting about the FRP.
So long story short, I need some sort of bypass for the FRP lock, or a way to root that doesn't care about the FRP being activated.
Hey I just found a post about it at another page, they claim it works on this model, as well as other versions of the X power, has anyone read about it or try it??
NoBrickToday said:
I'm finding that the LG x Power is bullet proof. I have tried every kind of way to root it that I can find on the black mart to the internet and youtube. Nothing seems to want to work. The good news is the phone doesn't brick after a failed attempt. That is my experience only. It may freeze up but still can be turned off and back on again.
So I ask... Is there any working things out there?
I want to learn to code to make a way to root if someone wants to help me? Trying to get info to learn how and linux a computer.
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I would so be down for that if someone would right the code I could figure out how to get that far.
If we can get a stock image for my LG x charge (lg x sp320) im ready to install Magisk...
I have a boost lg-320 7.1.1 can anyone help me with rooting? Ive tried all the obvious one clickers and im without a PC.
james.ellis92 said:
I have a boost lg-320 7.1.1 can anyone help me with rooting? Ive tried all the obvious one clickers and im without a PC.
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Here you go:
1) Obtain hammer
2) smash LG Phone
3) research, research, research
4) buy different phone with working root
In all seriousness, if you can take the phone back do so. LG phones do not root. If unable to return it, hopefully you at least got a good deal. Next time do the homework and buy something with a known root. The days of buying a phone and just rooting it with an all-in-one kit are over.
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bornagainpenguin said:
Here you go:
1) Obtain hammer
2) smash LG Phone
3) research, research, research
4) buy different phone with working root
In all seriousness, if you can take the phone back do so. LG phones do not root. If unable to return it, hopefully you at least got a good deal. Next time do the homework and buy something with a known root. The days of buying a phone and just rooting it with an all-in-one kit are over.
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I don't understand why LGLS755 are so hard to root. I tried for months to root it. XDA can't do it I have tried every root tool myself.
boots123456 said:
I don't understand why LGLS755 are so hard to root. I tried for months to root it. XDA can't do it I have tried every root tool myself.
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The reason it can't be rooted is because manufacturers and software developers are securing THEIR investment. By locking down devices it increases security measures against malicious attacks from outside sources and software and decreases the risk of consumers reporting vulnerabilities and attacks on their hardware and software due to end-user modification.
While we own the individual hardware with the software installed, we do not own the RIGHTS or LICENSE to the software and hardware. Therefore we cannot claim to be able to do whatever we want with the device just because it's in our pockets.
You want root? Get any Samsung, HTC, Pixel or older LG device. While the same rule above applies, people try harder on them because they are the most popular devices among users and the ecosystem between them is very similar and easily exploitable.
Aside from all that, root and rom developers don't really give many ****s about low-end, stupid cheap hardware anymore like they used to. *Insert related Metallica lyric here*
DrSubstance said:
Hi, I am trying to root my Lg X Power as well. However in preparation of this, I factory reset it, completely forgetting about the FRP.
So long story short, I need some sort of bypass for the FRP lock, or a way to root that doesn't care about the FRP being activated.
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I bypassed this with the talkback option
How do i root my phone
How do i root my phone it's really pissed me off
bornagainpenguin said:
Here you go:
1) Obtain hammer
2) smash LG Phone
3) research, research, research
4) buy different phone with working root
In all seriousness, if you can take the phone back do so. LG phones do not root. If unable to return it, hopefully you at least got a good deal. Next time do the homework and buy something with a known root. The days of buying a phone and just rooting it with an all-in-one kit are over.
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what? LG phones can get ROOT, its just difficult to do so, and some models can't get it, but not all of them... just unlock bootloader, install the right recovery and then flash super su, of course every phone is different and the procedures may be different
Antel1904 said:
what? LG phones can get ROOT, its just difficult to do so, and some models can't get it, but not all of them... just unlock bootloader, install the right recovery and then flash super su, of course every phone is different and the procedures may be different
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Yeah? Those some models have included the last three that I've purchased. Most of the time a root exists for some European model but not the US model so when I try to do my diligence and research it comes up as having a root method only for me to discover that the method does not actually work.
Your word games to the contrary I think the posts in this thread make it clear that LG phones do not have root. Much easier to write off LG than to keep wasting money on phones that don't actually root. Effectively LG phones do not root.
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I am sorry you haven't rooted yet with this phone.
james.ellis92 said:
I have a boost lg-320 7.1.1 can anyone help me with rooting? Ive tried all the obvious one clickers and im without a PC.
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Hi,
I have the same phone. Lg-sp320 x-charge. On boost/sprint. I have a computer and i can use adb to push files and run a script. I don't know if i need to preform a permanent oem unlock for the bootloader. And im sure i can probably find, well i hope i could find an original firmware. Any help would be a godsend. Thanks.
LG phones do too root. I've done several
equitube said:
LG phones do too root. I've done several
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Great!
Root this one. Root the last several LG phones released. LG phones *used* to root. They do not any more.
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bornagainpenguin said:
Your word games to the contrary I think the posts in this thread make it clear that LG phones do not have root. Much easier to write off LG than to keep wasting money on phones that don't actually root. Effectively LG phones do not root.
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I've rooted several LG phones
Hello guys this guide is for who want to root phone without disabling ota updates.
(BOOTLOODER SHOULD BE UNLOCK)
BIG THANKS FOR MAKING PATCHED BOOT IMg @Jan.Pul
IAM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY CAUSE OF YOUR DEVICE DO IT ON OWN RISK)
1)Download patched boot.img from link below
2)copy that patched boot.img to your adb folder
3) adb debugging should be on and oem unlock should be on for unlock bootlooder
4)turn off your device and go into fastboot mode by pressing holding volume down and power key
5) check whether fastboot detect your device or not by typing this command on (cmd) FASTBOOT DEVICES
6) if fastboot shows that your device is connected your good to go
7) you need to boot into patched boot.img for this type a command FASTBOOT BOOT patched_boot.img your device will boot automatically
8) download magisk manager apk from google and. Open ur magisk manager and install ad direct method and reboot
If you get bootloop dont worry just press your power key for 5sec it will boot automatically
PATCH BOOT IMG : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cU6qOMiHlGdSAbRtMVgTlHummcGksnt6/view?usp=drivesdk
Guessing this is for the Indian/Chinese version and the bnd-l24 is still sitting on the shelf? And rooting without making a backup isn't usually the smartest thing to do but we all know that.
Is there a source this came from by any chance?
Yes..But Why?
maximran said:
maximran said:
this guide is for who want to root phone without disabling ota updates.
(IAM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR AMY CAUSE OF YOUR DEVICE DO IT ON OWN RISK)
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str8stryk3r said:
rooting without making a backup isn't usually the smartest thing to do but we all know that.
Is there a source this came from by any chance?
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I Eh... Would Love To See This Happen..
I'm... still at a loss to understand why so many people want to root the 7x... Now?
There is an adaway substitute available... ( Search it if you care to ) no root needed.
You can adjust DPI...
You have Themes....
You can remove apps from user view... ( Search it if you care to )
And.... removing unwanted apps WILL NOT free up more RAM.. RAM Management will just fill the allotted space with something else...
You need to make a backup ??? Eh.... Your Stock Software WILL NOT FAIL Unless you are in there messing with it or, are installing illegal apps that are cancering your unit.
Battery Management apps like Greenify? really? how many of you even have to use the Power Saving options already installed in the 7x? I'm getting a day and a half easy.. without using any of the Power Saving options.. YMMV of course.
Oreo is 3 to 4 weeks away.
There still, is No Stock Image Available from Honor to turn to should your Rooting efforts fail you.
So, What possible benefits are you getting by Rooting Nougat Now..
It's YOUR device.. and I wish you the best of luck should you find a reason that you feel justifies the need to root right now..
I'm going to Root my 7x as well... once a Stock Image is available from Honor and, EMUI / OREO 8.0 , The Updated Security Patch and Facial Unlock / AR options are delivered.. That will hold me for the 6 - 7 months I'll own the 7x.
I am just so curious why so many would gamble with Root.. with no clear cut method of being able to recover from a catastrophe.... and no real benefit at this time.
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maximran said:
I Eh... Would Love To See This Happen..
I'm... still at a loss to understand why so many people want to root the 7x... Now?
There is an adaway substitute available... ( Search it if you care to ) no root needed.
You can adjust DPI...
You have Themes....
You can remove apps from user view... ( Search it if you care to )
And.... removing unwanted apps WILL NOT free up more RAM.. RAM Management will just fill the allotted space with something else...
You need to make a backup ??? Eh.... Your Stock Software WILL NOT FAIL Unless you are in there messing with it or, are installing illegal apps that are cancering your unit.
Battery Management apps like Greenify? really? how many of you even have to use the Power Saving options already installed in the 7x? I'm getting a day and a half easy.. without using any of the Power Saving options.. YMMV of course.
Oreo is 3 to 4 weeks away.
There still, is No Stock Image Available from Honor to turn to should your Rooting efforts fail you.
So, What possible benefits are you getting by Rooting Nougat Now..
It's YOUR device.. and I wish you the best of luck should you find a reason that you feel justifies the need to root right now..
I'm going to Root my 7x as well... once a Stock Image is available from Honor and, EMUI / OREO 8.0 , The Updated Security Patch and Facial Unlock / AR options are delivered.. That will hold me for the 6 - 7 months I'll own the 7x.
I am just so curious why so many would gamble with Root.. with no clear cut method of being able to recover from a catastrophe.... and no real benefit at this time.
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Oh I agree with ya. I'm not fooling with mine until a definitive stable method comes out after oreo. I might even hold off until we start getting some custom rooms and kernels. I've unlocked my bootloader and that's about the extent of my Honor 7x modding for the time being.
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A Question Sir..
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RaiderWill said:
Oh I agree with ya. I'm not fooling with mine until a definitive stable method comes out after oreo. I might even hold off until we start getting some custom rooms and kernels. I've unlocked my bootloader and that's about the extent of my Honor 7x modding for the time being.
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Have You Tried "Re-Locking" Your Bootloader.. And Then Doing A Factory Reset?
Just asking because.. I thought.. (And I Could Be 100% WRONG) I read somewhere that, relocking using the command line causes the 7x to brick..
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Have You Tried "Re-Locking" Your Bootloader.. And Then Doing A Factory Reset?
Just asking because.. I thought.. (And I Could Be 100% WRONG) I read somewhere that, relocking using the command line causes the 7x to brick..
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No I unlocked the bootloader so I wouldn't have to in the future. Why, bootloader unlocking China cause me to not be able to do ota updates? I was under the impression that only rooting and installing twrp would cause issues with ota but I could've read wrong
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@maximran, root with Magisk "KEEPFORCEENCRYPT=true"; but if I change to "false", should work too?
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No I unlocked the bootloader so I wouldn't have to in the future. Why, bootloader unlocking China cause me to not be able to do ota updates? I was under the impression that only rooting and installing twrp would cause issues with ota but I could've read wrong
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True, even I have unlocked my bootloader but I still received OTA.
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@maximran, root with Magisk "KEEPFORCEENCRYPT=true"; but if I change to "false", should work too?
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It will not work
Interesting!
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No I unlocked the bootloader so I wouldn't have to in the future. Why, bootloader unlocking China cause me to not be able to do ota updates? I was under the impression that only rooting and installing twrp would cause issues with ota but I could've read wrong
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True, even I have unlocked my bootloader but I still received OTA.
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Really ?
Please.. let me know once the update arrives.
I've NEVER seen a Signed O.T.A. software update package walk through the front door of a device with an Unsecured Bootloader.
Aren't you guys getting the "Exclamation Warning" screen when you first boot up letting you know your device is officially "Unsecure" ?
I'm not rooting Nougat.. just curious.. you normally get an "Update Failed!" message.. Thanks!
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RaiderWill said:
str8stryk3r said:
Asder.mko said:
Really ?
Please.. let me know once the update arrives.
I've NEVER seen a Signed O.T.A. software update package walk through the front door of a device with an Unsecured Bootloader.
Aren't you guys getting the "Exclamation Warning" screen when you first boot up letting you know your device is officially "Unsecure" ?
I'm not rooting Nougat.. just curious.. you normally get an "Update Failed!" message.. Thanks!
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Well, I got the OTA in December itself but since I had rooted and installed twrp recovery, I wasn't able to install the update.
Yes, we get that " your device is not secure... Blah blah blah..."
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str8stryk3r said:
Asder.mko said:
Really ?
Please.. let me know once the update arrives.
I've NEVER seen a Signed O.T.A. software update package walk through the front door of a device with an Unsecured Bootloader.
Aren't you guys getting the "Exclamation Warning" screen when you first boot up letting you know your device is officially "Unsecure" ?
I'm not rooting Nougat.. just curious.. you normally get an "Update Failed!" message.. Thanks!
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Before I went ahead an unlocked my bootloader I checked as many sources as I could about if whether or not I'd still be able ota update and the vast majority of the things I read states that what causes the update to fail is not having stock rom and not having stock recovery. The bootloader being unlocked doesn't modify those or any system files so everything should be fine. Unless Huawei changed things specifically for our Honor 7x then there shouldn't be any problems with ota updates. I guess I'll find out when the L24 people start saying they got updates and I don't receive it or can't install it
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Well, that's quite right. I don't know whether Huawei/Honor implemented THAT thing, but yeah reverting back to stock conditions wand applying OTA wouldn't be an issue!
( P.S - I'm stuck here too as I have OTA update since December but haven't reverted to stock to install it. I don't yet know properly about manual installation! )
(I haven't received my 7x yet and I haven't had any recent experience with Huawei OTA updates and I am not advocating that anyone should alter their phones in any way which would void their warranties... )
However, I was surprised to hear in this forum that Huawei has made things more restrictive since the Mate2. Given that you can still obtain bootloader unlock codes (and the only reason AFAIK is to allow you to flash a new recovery) and that Huawei has publicly committed to open-source and has given 7x's to developers, it seems contrary to a "lockdown" philosophy. Rather, it would appear as they are still encouraging 3rd party development to prolong product lifespan in order to attract cheapskates like me who still use a 4-year old phone.
Things may have changed but In order to get OTA updates, here were some of the issues on the Mate2 :
Some people had a difficult time obtaining the bootloader unlock codes. Either you can get a code or you couldn't. Without an unlocked bootloader, you can't flash a different recovery.
You "can't" flash TWRP. That's not entirely true. You needed to restore the appropriate version of Huawei recovery before each OTA, because update.zip can only be interpreted by the appropriate recovery. (Think format differences between CWM and TWRP.)
You were able to root and still obtain OTA. (Albeit, there was only one OTA. The rest had to be downloaded to SD and flashed. But that was okay back then 'cause no one outside of China really knew about Huawei.) The updates weren't checking whether you had modified the existing software or not. Once you've voided your warranty, Huawei didn't care if you then decide to then make your phone more vulnerable or accidentally brick it. The problem was that the update could fail if you remove a piece of bloatware that Huawei decided to update. (The folders would be missing for example. And the update would not recover gracefully.)
But a big THANKS to previous posters which reminded me to backup everything (basically as soon as I receive my 7x).
Oh....if you are flashing a custom recovery, you should also backup the "stock" recovery after each OTA update. Sometimes the recovery is also updated. (That's what I meant by "appropriate" version.)
iammudd said:
(I haven't received my 7x yet and I haven't had any recent experience with Huawei OTA updates and I am not advocating that anyone should alter their phones in any way which would void their warranties... )
However, I was surprised to hear in this forum that Huawei has made things more restrictive since the Mate2. Given that you can still obtain bootloader unlock codes (and the only reason AFAIK is to allow you to flash a new recovery) and that Huawei has publicly committed to open-source and has given 7x's to developers, it seems contrary to a "lockdown" philosophy. Rather, it would appear as they are still encouraging 3rd party development to prolong product lifespan in order to attract cheapskates like me who still use a 4-year old phone.
Things may have changed but In order to get OTA updates, here were some of the issues on the Mate2 :
Some people had a difficult time obtaining the bootloader unlock codes. Either you can get a code or you couldn't. Without an unlocked bootloader, you can't flash a different recovery.
You "can't" flash TWRP. That's not entirely true. You needed to restore the appropriate version of Huawei recovery before each OTA, because update.zip can only be interpreted by the appropriate recovery. (Think format differences between CWM and TWRP.)
You were able to root and still obtain OTA. (Albeit, there was only one OTA. The rest had to be downloaded to SD and flashed. But that was okay back then 'cause no one outside of China really knew about Huawei.) The updates weren't checking whether you had modified the existing software or not. Once you've voided your warranty, Huawei didn't care if you then decide to then make your phone more vulnerable or accidentally brick it. The problem was that the update could fail if you remove a piece of bloatware that Huawei decided to update. (The folders would be missing for example. And the update would not recover gracefully.)
But a big THANKS to previous posters which reminded me to backup everything (basically as soon as I receive my 7x).
Oh....if you are flashing a custom recovery, you should also backup the "stock" recovery after each OTA update. Sometimes the recovery is also updated. (That's what I meant by "appropriate" version.)
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My thoughts exactly. Why would they provide they website to unlock the bootloader if that kept ota updates from going through. The only thing that's really holding back the development of this device is Huawei hasn't released the full stock firmware package yet. I have the L24 version so it's exciting seeing L21/A10 making some progress because it's only a matter of time until things start to kick off all around.
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My thoughts exactly. Why would they provide they website to unlock the bootloader if that kept ota updates from going through. The only thing that's really holding back the development of this device is Huawei hasn't released the full stock firmware package yet. I have the L24 version so it's exciting seeing L21/A10 making some progress because it's only a matter of time until things start to kick off all around.
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No need for full fw broh need vendor partitions, device tree, kernel sources
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No need for full fw broh need vendor partitions, device tree, kernel sources
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Lmao, and that's why I'm not a developer. I just know having the stock image files is important so that when something gets screwed up got have something to fall back on.
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Yes, we get that " your device is not secure... Blah blah blah..."
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That Answers My Question As To Wether Or Not You Do See The Unsecure Msg..
Anyway.. Great Discussion.
Fact or Fiction... who will get the updates via O.T.A. ? The Non-Rooted, The Rooted.. or Both.
Even with Project Treble... will this device ever take off with Developer support ?
Will Huawei / Honor release a stock image of Nougat and Oreo ? ( Eh, Honor.. it's been 60 days since Kernel source was released.. and you know people are Rooting away.. why have you not released the stock Nougat image for the 7x?) and don't use working on EMUI & OREO as an excuse.. that's simply not good enough.. :angel:
I'm going to enjoy laying back... and watching how this unfolds.
Re-Reading my own words, as to what is the motivation for everyone Rooting Nougat now.. and what is anyone getting out of doing it.. because so much of what you would normally do with Admin Access is already incorperated into the 7x.. is there really a need to even Root whats coming without something like a Stable Linage / Franco Kernel combo ROM available vs a 100% stable Factory Fresh EMUI / Oreo 8.0 setup.
For me, it will be a fun to see what key Developers, ROM's and support in general.. the 7x actually gets.. and at what point they release firmware for restoration purposes.
You Just Never Know.
RaiderWill said:
That Answers My Question As To Wether Or Not You Do See The Unsecure Msg..
Anyway.. Great Discussion.
Fact or Fiction... who will get the updates via O.T.A. ? The Non-Rooted, The Rooted.. or Both.
Even with Project Treble... will this device ever take off with Developer support ?
Will Huawei / Honor release a stock image of Nougat and Oreo ? ( Eh, Honor.. it's been 60 days since Kernel source was released.. and you know people are Rooting away.. why have you not released the stock Nougat image for the 7x?) and don't use working on EMUI & OREO as an excuse.. that's simply not good enough.. :angel:
I'm going to enjoy laying back... and watching how this unfolds.
Re-Reading my own words, as to what is the motivation for everyone Rooting Nougat now.. and what is anyone getting out of doing it.. because so much of what you would normally do with Admin Access is already incorperated into the 7x.. is there really a need to even Root whats coming without something like a Stable Linage / Franco Kernel combo ROM available vs a 100% stable Factory Fresh EMUI / Oreo 8.0 setup.
For me, it will be a fun to see what key Developers, ROM's and support in general.. the 7x actually gets.. and at what point they release firmware for restoration purposes.
You Just Never Know.
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People like to root and mod their own devices for their own reasons but you're right, a lot of the reasons I modded past devices was because the roms almost always ran better than stock but the 7x imho runs great. Used to be kernels for better battery life and such. I like custom roms because I like to be able to do certain things that stock roms limited as far as customizing goes. A lot of people hate bloat and end up deleting every file on the phone that isn't necessary or to their liking to make the rom as minimal as possible.
But as of now I'm happy with the phone and don't feel the urge to need to root and and a custom recovery. The roms that eventually come would have to offer something worthwhile to flash. But hell, that's subject to change given how I'm feeling that day lol. There's a new AOSP based rom in another thread that sounds promising
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Will Huawei / Honor release a stock image of Nougat and Oreo ? ...
Re-Reading my own words, as to what is the motivation for everyone Rooting Nougat now.. and what is anyone getting out of doing it.. because so much of what you would normally do with Admin Access is already incorperated into the 7x..
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I assume that you already know this ... but I should mention it for others that you can run TWRP (if there is a version for one's phone) without flashing it. (I don't have my 7x yet, so I prob really shouldn't be trying to give detailed instructions anyways.) From there, you can make backups of the stock image, stock recovery, etc. (So thx again to this forum for reminding me that I should backup all stock images as soon as I receive my 7x so that MY fingerprints are not all over the backups.)
As to rooting, there ARE at least 2 things that Huawei hasn't provided without root:
Yes, I can make app backups (and/or use the Huawei "easy transfer"... not sure what app that is at the moment) but I'd assume that I won't be able to transfer it to a non-Huawei device. That's why I continue to use Titanium Backup.
USB Mass Storage Enabling (and by extension Selinux Passive mode). I want fast transfer to my desktop, etc.... and I want a drive-letter (yes, there are Win programs which only work with drive letters). Without UMS, I haven't found a way to do that.
New here. Didn't see a forum for the Moto G Pure XT2163. Mods - I am sorry. Please move wherever's best.
Discovered that the version Verizon is selling (notably the slickdeals thread on the one from Visible) is different. It's -2 vs. -4.
Looks like VZW disabled most of the bands that T-Mobile/Sprint use - 25, 41, 71, for example.
Looking to see if it's possible to enable those bands. One report on SD thread says they bricked their device trying RETUS version but IDK if the bootloader needs to be unlocked first, or if it would even help. Probably more work to unlock these bands if it's even possible.
Downloads look available here https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/ellis/official/
Haven't messed with flashing a phone in years. May be able to try later but hoping anyone else here can look into this.
I'm going to guess as is the case with most other Android devices branded by Verizon that the bootloader will be restricted from being unlocked. There is really no way around this as it's an OEM based policy. If you want to play with custom ROMs or root based modding, I would highly recommend ditching the Verizon or any other carrier branded variant with the exception of T-Mobile/Metro and Google Fi (there are others) that actually allow OEM unlock. Not only that, but if you're looking for certain connectivity bands, you don't want to settle for a carrier device variant designed to use a particular set of bands which don't include the ones you need. No sense getting a Verizon variant to run on T-Mobile/Sprint bands when you can, you know, get the T-Mobile variant in the first place. Get the global unlocked variant model if you can and start from there. Far easier than the headaches you'll get trying to transform VZW to TMUS.
Cross-flashing is not going to unlock bands, you need to change modem configuration. Throw your SoC(Mediatek) followed by "unlock bands" into Google and see if you have any luck.
I also didn't see a forum for the Moto G Pure and was wondering if anyone knows of a custom bootloader like TWRP or CWM for it? I think I have enough understanding of how to sideload the app, I just need something to send the phone. I tried using a random TWRP mod on it but it fails, invalid signature. I haven't tried doing the phone rooting thing in years now, but I have this Moto G Pure phone without any service on it that I'm willing to experiment on. It can be used as a test bed or data extraction device to put code from it on the internet if someone needs it to help custom rom makers for example by testing stuff on it. Perhaps that's why no one has a custom recovery for it yet.
I don't know exactly how to extract the phones current ROM data so all I've done so far is unlock the bootloader. The phone's carrier based on the unactivated sim card shows it's a T-Mobile branded device, but the T-Mobile and other carrier software is inactive other than the few Moto apps. An article on XDA say's the phone's suck, but that's just not true at least not to me. It's a fine phone like it is, but if I can format it's SSD and only install what I want it to have on it that would be great. It's just a spare sim locked phone that I can't use my active sim card in. So with that it's now a project phone. I would like to mainly just unbloat it and free up all that used space occupied by the recovery partition. I don't necessarily need a whole new ROM, just want to root it. That's the only way to erase those factory files that I know of.
For me unlocking the bootloader wasn't to hard to do. You have to make sure the drivers from Motorola are installed and have a current version of ADB available on a computer. I still had a version of ADB tools that was almost a decade old now so I had to update that for the fastboot oem_unlock_unlockcode (automated code from Motorola support) command to work. To find out if it can be unlocked or not go here:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone%2Fbootloader%2Funlock-your-device-b
At the Moto site they will guide you on how to generate the code they want you to send them. You have to sign in to their site to use that function though. After I finally figured out what to type in the CMD window it generated that code and I edited it down to one long line of numbers and give it to the page. In seconds I had an email with the unlock code inside.
Unlocking it seems to help with uninstalling some of the built in stuff, before I could only disable most of the apps that come with it. The apps are still probably on there I just have to factory reset it and they'll come back. Now however the removed apps don't show as using any internal storage, all the apps info numbers go to 0 bytes, but still even doing that it's still over 10GB of unmovable data. When it should really be more like 2-3 GB for the entire system. I hate how Google just inserts itself in your life even when you don't want it at all.
I anyone passing by reading this post needs more details please let me know and I'll try to get the information or even data files from the phone. Would a copy of it's stock firmware be of any help? If so let me know how I would go about saving a copy of it. I'll keep looking for answers but it seems this phone is not high on the priority list or is new or something. So there is only scam guides trying to tell you "How to unlock your phone" or "Install TWRP on Motorola devices" and other clearly click bait sites. I can't even find the stock rom for it on Motorola's site, just outdated versions from 2016, with different build numbers, that can't be right.
All I know is unlocking the bootloader was the first step on all the guides and I've done that. Got a warranty voided notice and everything. There currently isn't a custom recovery mod for this model as far I can tell. If I can ever find that then I can try Linage or just debloat Android 11 which is probably the safer and easier option provided I can find that Custom Covery'.
When it boots up now, it has to tell me it's unlocked and all the dangers it poses. Dangerous if you cared about what was on it I suppose. There is nothing on it I can't just copy back over to it, other than the stock operating system.
Oh yeah, it's model number and other side of the box information is:
Model Name: Moto G PURE
SKU: MO-XT21634-AJB (MOXT21634AJB)
Software Version RRH31.Q3-46-20
Production date was 12/15/2021
I'm not sure what other information to include.
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I also didn't see a forum for the Moto G Pure and was wondering if anyone knows of a custom bootloader like TWRP or CWM for it? I think I have enough understanding of how to sideload the app, I just need something to send the phone. I tried using a random TWRP mod on it but it fails, invalid signature. I haven't tried doing the phone rooting thing in years now, but I have this Moto G Pure phone without any service on it that I'm willing to experiment on. It can be used as a test bed or data extraction device to put code from it on the internet if someone needs it to help custom rom makers for example by testing stuff on it. Perhaps that's why no one has a custom recovery for it yet.
I don't know exactly how to extract the phones current ROM data so all I've done so far is unlock the bootloader. The phone's carrier based on the unactivated sim card shows it's a T-Mobile branded device, but the T-Mobile and other carrier software is inactive other than the few Moto apps. An article on XDA say's the phone's suck, but that's just not true at least not to me. It's a fine phone like it is, but if I can format it's SSD and only install what I want it to have on it that would be great. It's just a spare sim locked phone that I can't use my active sim card in. So with that it's now a project phone. I would like to mainly just unbloat it and free up all that used space occupied by the recovery partition. I don't necessarily need a whole new ROM, just want to root it. That's the only way to erase those factory files that I know of.
For me unlocking the bootloader wasn't to hard to do. You have to make sure the drivers from Motorola are installed and have a current version of ADB available on a computer. I still had a version of ADB tools that was almost a decade old now so I had to update that for the fastboot oem_unlock_unlockcode (automated code from Motorola support) command to work. To find out if it can be unlocked or not go here:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone%2Fbootloader%2Funlock-your-device-b
At the Moto site they will guide you on how to generate the code they want you to send them. You have to sign in to their site to use that function though. After I finally figured out what to type in the CMD window it generated that code and I edited it down to one long line of numbers and give it to the page. In seconds I had an email with the unlock code inside.
Unlocking it seems to help with uninstalling some of the built in stuff, before I could only disable most of the apps that come with it. The apps are still probably on there I just have to factory reset it and they'll come back. Now however the removed apps don't show as using any internal storage, all the apps info numbers go to 0 bytes, but still even doing that it's still over 10GB of unmovable data. When it should really be more like 2-3 GB for the entire system. I hate how Google just inserts itself in your life even when you don't want it at all.
I anyone passing by reading this post needs more details please let me know and I'll try to get the information or even data files from the phone. Would a copy of it's stock firmware be of any help? If so let me know how I would go about saving a copy of it. I'll keep looking for answers but it seems this phone is not high on the priority list or is new or something. So there is only scam guides trying to tell you "How to unlock your phone" or "Install TWRP on Motorola devices" and other clearly click bait sites. I can't even find the stock rom for it on Motorola's site, just outdated versions from 2016, with different build numbers, that can't be right.
All I know is unlocking the bootloader was the first step on all the guides and I've done that. Got a warranty voided notice and everything. There currently isn't a custom recovery mod for this model as far I can tell. If I can ever find that then I can try Linage or just debloat Android 11 which is probably the safer and easier option provided I can find that Custom Covery'.
When it boots up now, it has to tell me it's unlocked and all the dangers it poses. Dangerous if you cared about what was on it I suppose. There is nothing on it I can't just copy back over to it, other than the stock operating system.
Oh yeah, it's model number and other side of the box information is:
Model Name: Moto G PURE
SKU: MO-XT21634-AJB (MOXT21634AJB)
Software Version RRH31.Q3-46-20
Production date was 12/15/2021
I'm not sure what other information to include.
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hey i just came up on one of these today, nice phone considering... Any luck with trying to find a custom recovery? I have been looking as well but development seems pretty sparse right now. I am in the same boat as you, unlocked bootloader, locked everything else lol. I cant even find a way to root it without TWRP! I am curious if one of the other moto G series phones would have the same TWRP? Also check this out. It sounds legit but IDK...https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-motorola-g-pure-xt2163/
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hey i just came up on one of these today, nice phone considering... Any luck with trying to find a custom recovery? I have been looking as well but development seems pretty sparse right now. I am in the same boat as you, unlocked bootloader, locked everything else lol. I cant even find a way to root it without TWRP! I am curious if one of the other moto G series phones would have the same TWRP? Also check this out. It sounds legit but IDK...https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-motorola-g-pure-xt2163/
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Well I was able to use Magisk to "root" it with the patched boot file trick, but still that's not the same thing as I did before with a Samsung phone and the CWM recovery deal. That gave the user all the control they wanted. Even though the phone claims I have root access, I'm not sure what to do with Magisk's root trick. I still don't see a way to backup or install a different operating system or just a blank Android 11 OS. My knowledge there is limited and there isn't a custom recovery for this model as far as I can tell.
So I still can't wipe the drive or remove the OEM partition that contains the installers for the bundled stuff. I'd still need some form of interface that has more features than the stock Fastboot and Bootloader modes offer I guess, or I just don't know how to use the software tools correctly. It's still locked even with root as far as I can tell but if there is something more I'm missing or an additional app to install for example, like SU. Is that still a thing? If I'm on the right track let me know.
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Well I was able to use Magisk to "root" it with the patched boot file trick, but still that's not the same thing as I did before with a Samsung phone and the CWM recovery deal. That gave the user all the control they wanted. Even though the phone claims I have root access, I'm not sure what to do with Magisk's root trick. I still don't see a way to backup or install a different operating system or just a blank Android 11 OS. My knowledge there is limited and there isn't a custom recovery for this model as far as I can tell.
So I still can't wipe the drive or remove the OEM partition that contains the installers for the bundled stuff. I'd still need some form of interface that has more features than the stock Fastboot and Bootloader modes offer I guess, or I just don't know how to use the software tools correctly. It's still locked even with root as far as I can tell but if there is something more I'm missing or an additional app to install for example, like SU. Is that still a thing? If I'm on the right track let me know.
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Thanks for the reply!!! I am speaking from a place of semi-ignorance here but I would thing that you could install SuperSU from inside the system, right? As long as the root binary is there...idk though and from what I hear, chainfire is not responsible for SuperSU anymore so it has become somewhat sketchy. I saw a post (about this phone, I think) that mentioned having to install terminal emulator and running root command from there to achieve legit root after flashing the patched boot.img. I will see if I can find the post again and update you. Is there anyway you could post the boot.img? Or give me a link for it?
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Thanks for the reply!!! I am speaking from a place of semi-ignorance here but I would thing that you could install SuperSU from inside the system, right? As long as the root binary is there...idk though and from what I hear, chainfire is not responsible for SuperSU anymore so it has become somewhat sketchy. I saw a post (about this phone, I think) that mentioned having to install terminal emulator and running root command from there to achieve legit root after flashing the patched boot.img. I will see if I can find the post again and update you. Is there anyway you could post the boot.img? Or give me a link for it?
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Well I can try and learn how to extract the phones information to my computer. I don't know how to do that exactly. The way I was able to get a hold of the phones stock firmware data was by using Lenovo's Smart Rescue and Recovery software.
You have to enable usb debugging mode, attach the phone to the computer with the software running and make sure that you didn't disable/delete Device Help. That app is what makes the Lenovo software work, otherwise the Recovery software fails to see the phone. If it sees the phone correctly then you can see the preselected target firmware it wants you to download under the Rescue tab along the top.
So I did that and grabbed the files it created without actually applying them to the device. The whole thing is a little over 2GB and difficult to host but I put the stock boot.img file here for anyone who needs it. If anyone wants all the files I can try to upload the whole thing one file at at time. That's the way it was sent to me, an uncompressed folder. If I zip it all up and try to upload it most sites will say file size exceeded. Anyway here's the link...
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MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.
www.mediafire.com
Thanks I was able to patch it with Magisk and achieve root. It looks like Magisk is an SU manager anyway. I have never used it before so this is a first for me. The root and bootloader unlock seem a little pointless without any recovery or ROM though....I guess it's time to learn how to compile one lol
I just picked up the Moto G Pure (XT2163-4) Android 11 aka Red Velvet Cake *sounds yummy lol*....I've been searching around and not seen any info about any rooting method for this device....besides the "Root All Motorola Phones" crap...and I don't feel like risking making a paper weight with it. Even on here it doesn't show up in the...add device list....was going to add to my profile...but can't.
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Thanks I was able to patch it with Magisk and achieve root. It looks like Magisk is an SU manager anyway. I have never used it before so this is a first for me. The root and bootloader unlock seem a little pointless without any recovery or ROM though....I guess it's time to learn how to compile one lol
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Yeah now we're on the same page then. I thought the same thing, not much use to have an unlocked boot loader and root access without software to make use of it. I gave the phone to my nieces to play with for now, but it's with in arms reach if I need it for instructions yet to be defined. I should receive updates to this post if anyone else responds.
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I just picked up the Moto G Pure (XT2163-4) Android 11 aka Red Velvet Cake *sounds yummy lol*....I've been searching around and not seen any info about any rooting method for this device....besides the "Root All Motorola Phones" crap...and I don't feel like risking making a paper weight with it. Even on here it doesn't show up in the...add device list....was going to add to my profile...but can't.
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Yeah appears it was produced in late 2021 or sold at that time so it's new and no one has made any custom firmware's or recoveries for it as far as I know. I don't know how to do that, requires computer programming skills. I don't have any of those.
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I just picked up the Moto G Pure (XT2163-4) Android 11 aka Red Velvet Cake *sounds yummy lol*....I've been searching around and not seen any info about any rooting method for this device....besides the "Root All Motorola Phones" crap...and I don't feel like risking making a paper weight with it. Even on here it doesn't show up in the...add device list....was going to add to my profile...but can't.
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I feel your pain! Had mine a few days and of course came to XDA immediately to find the DL on this joint but no luck... Ya I definitely don't recommend one click root method for this. If you want, I can post/link the patched boot.img i made with magisk. Mine boots with it and have confirmed root.
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Yeah now we're on the same page then. I thought the same thing, not much use to have an unlocked boot loader and root access without software to make use of it. I gave the phone to my nieces to play with for now, but it's with in arms reach if I need it for instructions yet to be defined. I should receive updates to this post if anyone else responds.
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Excellent, it's nice to be caught up with everyone else haha!! I am going to do some digging and posting and whatnot to try to find some info on porting a recovery for this model. I feel like it can't be too different from at least one or two of the other G series phones. I will see updates as well so please post if you come up with anything!!
BTW does anyone know the process of creating a device page for this joint?! I think this phone is definitely worth some development...
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Excellent, it's nice to be caught up with everyone else haha!! I am going to do some digging and posting and whatnot to try to find some info on porting a recovery for this model. I feel like it can't be too different from at least one or two of the other G series phones. I will see updates as well so please post if you come up with anything!!
BTW does anyone know the process of creating a device page for this joint?! I think this phone is definitely worth some development...
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Good luck finding anything that will load onto the phone. Seems like it would be possible to install LineageOS on it if nothing else. You'd think by now installing a phone's operating system would be similar to how operating systems are installed on other computers. All I get is invalid signature, way to much security (for them) on phone OS'es. With phones and PDA's apparently you can't just find the OS you want to use and install it. Where's the generic and bloat free Andriod 11 stock OS/firmware at? No such thing? It's either "Gaggles" way or nothing apparently. (It's ok if you don't know either, maybe someone else has more information about that.)
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Good luck finding anything that will load onto the phone. Seems like it would be possible to install LineageOS on it if nothing else. You'd think by now installing a phone's operating system would be similar to how operating systems are installed on other computers. All I get is invalid signature, way to much security (for them) on phone OS'es. With phones and PDA's apparently you can't just find the OS you want to use and install it. Where's the generic and bloat free Andriod 11 stock OS/firmware at? No such thing? It's either "Gaggles" way or nothing apparently. (It's ok if you don't know either, maybe someone else has more information about that.)
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Ya I'm definitely not going to try anything on the actual device, (ESPECIALLY if I am trying to put it together myself) but I am pretty sure you can test that stuff on a virtual system. Some kind of android emulator or whatever. As for a stock/debloated/de-odexed ROM, I haven't seen one but that couldn't be all that difficult to put together, right? I mean as long as the patched boot.img is included anyway. I feel like a recovery would be a higher priority though...? BTW, I have never used Lineage before, how is it?
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I feel your pain! Had mine a few days and of course came to XDA immediately to find the DL on this joint but no luck... Ya I definitely don't recommend one click root method for this. If you want, I can post/link the patched boot.img i made with magisk. Mine boots with it and have confirmed root.
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That would be great if you could share that patched boot.img......it is for the XT2163-4 MOTO G PURE correct?
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That would be great if you could share that patched boot.img......it is for the XT2163-4 MOTO G PURE correct?
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I feel your pain! Had mine a few days and of course came to XDA immediately to find the DL on this joint but no luck... Ya I definitely don't recommend one click root method for this. If you want, I can post/link the patched boot.img i made with magisk. Mine boots with it and have confirmed root.
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I would also like the patched boot.img if it is for the XT2163-4. Thanks
Hey boys I actually got rid of the moto g pure...for now at least lol! GREAT phone and I would be willing to get it back once there is some dev work done on it...will definitely be watching the threads on it. Good luck boys!!!
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I read the above posts, and it seems like even if I am able to root it using Magisk, I won't be able to flash it with custom rom?
Thank you Agent_Orange1488 for the posts.
Follow the instruction of your OS (GrapheneOS or CalyxOS) as normal, then just before locking the bootloader back follow the guide here. The end result is a OS with Magisk and root, but the bootloader can not be lock again (because of the root process).
So, if you would like to be able to record call, block advertisement and enjoy your device because it is your freedom to do with your device what ever you want, root your OS.
PS, if security is more important then privacy, rooting is not the way to go, at the moment I didnt find how to maintain both
Old news.
And technically, you CAN relock the bootloader if you wanted to, by resigning everything. There's links (somewhere, you'll have to search for it) to a program on git that someone wrote to do this, but I haven't tried it.
The reality is that locking the bootloader really doesn't do much for you. It might protect you a BIT if you lose physical control over it, but when you lose physical control over a device, you have to assume that its been compromised anyway.
Locking the bootloader will be essential in the future when Google enforces Hardware Backed attestation for those who use contactless payments.
This is good to know.
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Locking the bootloader will be essential in the future when Google enforces Hardware Backed attestation for those who use contactless payments.
This is good to know.
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Source?
96carboard said:
Source?
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It's all in This thread
Edit: More reading Here
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It's all in This thread
Edit: More reading Here
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Your links seem to be showing something about current issues that people are having, not about something "in the future" regarding enforcement of locked bootloader.
Edit: what I'm looking for is some statement from gooble that they intend to make some changes with respect to this, otherwise it appears to be just speculation.
Edit 2: The subject is also pretty off topic, since there's a good chance that it doesn't come into play at all with graphene or calyx, both of which do NOT include integrated binary gooble services. Graphene goes to a lot of trouble to make it installable, but strongly isolated from everything else, which includes restricting hardware status flags from being readable by it. Calyx promotes microG.
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Old news.
And technically, you CAN relock the bootloader if you wanted to, by resigning everything. There's links (somewhere, you'll have to search for it) to a program on git that someone wrote to do this, but I haven't tried it.
The reality is that locking the bootloader really doesn't do much for you. It might protect you a BIT if you lose physical control over it, but when you lose physical control over a device, you have to assume that its been compromised anyway.
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It may be old news for you, I didnt find it anywhere. That is why I posted it here, just in case there are people like me that looking for that answer.
Asking in the GrapheneOS chats, I only got an answer that rooting is not supported and not recommended.
Since I'm using call recorder to my work and will be glad to block advertisements locally, and god forbid, I also would like to use either Graphene or CalyxOS.
I dont see other way around it unless using root.
Can you please send your links for looking back the bootloader? that will be awesome. Thanks!
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Can you please send your links for looking back the bootloader? that will be awesome. Thanks!
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Use the search bar at the top of the screen, or read through all the other threads in the 6 and 6pro forums, that's what I would have to do to find it for you.
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Use the search bar at the top of the screen, or read through all the other threads in the 6 and 6pro forums, that's what I would have to do to find it for you.
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Very sad respond from you. You can be helpful and point me to the right direction and with less arrogance attitude of yours...
XDA is a place to share knowledge, not to show your arrogance on how good you are to type in google search.
FYI, if anyone want to sign the bootloader after using Magisk this is probably the way
Rooting Graphene/Calyx/LeOS/DivestOS/eOS/CopperHead completely defeats t he purpose as now it gives potentially a malicious app root abilities.
As the head of Graphene's Twitter once said "but why... that opens so many security risk doors"|
You can't re-lock the bootloader with root unless you create a new avb-key. Don't bother rooting security roms, its pointless.
Yes, you are right, it is lowering the security of the phone. But, that's ok, each one with his use case of attack. If it is ok for you to use your phone without sudo, good for you. Since I'm not Edward Snowden and I'm not afraid to use sudo on my machines, and when I do, I know enough when and how to use it.
Therefore, I don't see why I can't use sudo on my phone. Especially when some of us do need our phone to perform tasks that currently are not supported by Security oriented OS as you mentioned, AND also do want to lower our information footprint on the net. For this case using sudo on the formation ROMs seems ideal.
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Very sad respond from you.
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Very sad that you expect to be spoon fed when you have the capacity to search for yourself.
to make it easier for people who may look for it (I was one of those people)
this is that script mentioned earlier which will allow you to resign the rom to allow you to lock the bootloader with Magisk https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...s-and-add-adb-root-and-other-changes.4440367/
This is exactly what I needed https://github.com/chenxiaolong/avbroot
I believe so anyway, still actually trying to get it to work, just need to setup android studio as far as I can make out
then you can easily patch the rom with magisk and sign it with your own keys
And this information could be useful as well https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/signing-boot-images-for-android-verified-boot-avb-v8.3600606/
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to make it easier for people who may look for it (I was one of those people)
this is that script mentioned earlier which will allow you to resign the rom to allow you to lock the bootloader with Magisk https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...s-and-add-adb-root-and-other-changes.4440367/
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So how would this work? Would I have to unlock and wipe after every update
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So how would this work? Would I have to unlock and wipe after every update
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I have been working on this when I have had time, I have been able to successfully flash Graphene with Magisk and lock the bootloader, turning what I learned into this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lock-boot-loader-magisk-root-grapheneos.4510295/
I believe there is a way to update with signed OTA files that are patched with Magisk, using AVBRoot that I use in the guide
I haven't figured this part out yet. it took me long enough just to work it out for the firmware/system rom but I will definitely be trying and updating the guide as I learn more about the process
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I have been working on this when I have had time, I have been able to successfully flash Graphene with Magisk and lock the bootloader, turning what I learned into this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lock-boot-loader-magisk-root-grapheneos.4510295/
I believe there is a way to update with signed OTA files that are patched with Magisk, using AVBRoot that I use in the guide
I haven't figured this part out yet. it took me long enough just to work it out for the firmware/system rom but I will definitely be trying and updating the guide as I learn more about the process
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That sounds extremely promising.
Since proton is obsolete now, I'm searching for a rom with sandboxed google play that I can root. Rooting GrapheneOS seems to be the only way for that.
Locking bootlaoder doesn't really matter to me, but rooting graphene and then being able to dirty flash updates later (I don't care about OTAs, even if it's cool and comfortable) is important.
How would you update graphene right now when you're rooted? Just dirty flash the new rom, then flash patched boot.img?
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That sounds extremely promising.
Since proton is obsolete now, I'm searching for a rom with sandboxed google play that I can root. Rooting GrapheneOS seems to be the only way for that.
Locking bootlaoder doesn't really matter to me, but rooting graphene and then being able to dirty flash updates later (I don't care about OTAs, even if it's cool and comfortable) is important.
How would you update graphene right now when you're rooted? Just dirty flash the new rom, then flash patched boot.img?
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If you don't care about locking the boot loader you do lose some physical security advantages of it
but it does make the process easier, I believe you should just be able to use AVBRoot as it's intended
GitHub - chenxiaolong/avbroot: Maintain Android Verified Boot using a custom key while rooted with Magisk
Maintain Android Verified Boot using a custom key while rooted with Magisk - GitHub - chenxiaolong/avbroot: Maintain Android Verified Boot using a custom key while rooted with Magisk
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Once you have completed all the initial steps then updates are as simple as
Follow step 6 in the previous section to patch the new OTA (or an existing OTA with a newer Magisk APK).
Reboot to recovery mode. If stuck at a No command screen, press the volume up button once while holding down the power button.
Sideload the patched OTA.
Reboot.
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If you don't care about locking the boot loader you do lose some physical security advantages of it
but it does make the process easier, I believe you should just be able to use AVBRoot as it's intended
GitHub - chenxiaolong/avbroot: Maintain Android Verified Boot using a custom key while rooted with Magisk
Maintain Android Verified Boot using a custom key while rooted with Magisk - GitHub - chenxiaolong/avbroot: Maintain Android Verified Boot using a custom key while rooted with Magisk
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Once you have completed all the initial steps then updates are as simple as
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If updating is that easy with a locked bootloader I'm gonna try this. Thanks for your efforts man
Anyone know if I can I expect the same procedures to work for GOS installed on a Pixel 5 or 4?