Hi all,
I've been rooting my devices for a long time (since my HD2) and using custom software, but these days I just don't seem to find the time. Combined with the stock 6P software being pretty good, I haven't felt the need.
However, I am now forced to use my phone as my primary music listening device, usually hooked up to my home stereo. Much like my Nexus 6, before the 6P I have now, the audio output seems very low. On my last phone, there was a file that could be edited to boost the audio output (judging from the values in the file, it defaulted to 80% max vol?) and required at least root to do.
So, a few questions:
Do I have to wipe my device to get root access?
Are there exposed modules that can boost my audio output? Or,
I spotted an 'audiophile' rom recently - would that be my best bet for better audio output?
Any possible solutions to low audio output volume would be great!
Cheers
Ross
phanteh said:
Hi all,
I've been rooting my devices for a long time (since my HD2) and using custom software, but these days I just don't seem to find the time. Combined with the stock 6P software being pretty good, I haven't felt the need.
However, I am now forced to use my phone as my primary music listening device, usually hooked up to my home stereo. Much like my Nexus 6, before the 6P I have now, the audio output seems very low. On my last phone, there was a file that could be edited to boost the audio output (judging from the values in the file, it defaulted to 80% max vol?) and required at least root to do.
So, a few questions:
Do I have to wipe my device to get root access?
Are there exposed modules that can boost my audio output? Or,
I spotted an 'audiophile' rom recently - would that be my best bet for better audio output?
Any possible solutions to low audio output volume would be great!
Cheers
Ross
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thays my problem before... i came from moto x pure edition.. sound way better there. i dont want to root my nexus 6p .. just install equilizer fx from playstore and disable music fx.. now my audio boosted by 50%. .. its way better now.
Thanks pato, but I've tried EQ apps before, on my nexus 6 - while they may improve audio quality, you can't get any serious volume gains without some serious clipping.
Do I have to wipe my device to get root access?
No
Try this mod.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/r-s-e-sound-systems-auditory-research-t3379709
Thanks Turgur,
That mod looks like just what I want, but it also says you need a custom recovery - I thought that required unlocking / resetting your device?
Either way I'll probably be trying it out later...
Cheers
Ross
phanteh said:
Thanks Turgur,
That mod looks like just what I want, but it also says you need a custom recovery - I thought that required unlocking / resetting your device?
Either way I'll probably be trying it out later...
Cheers
Ross
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Unlocking your bootloader will wipe user data, but you can just back it up to a PC, unlock, then copy it all back over after. It adds some time to the process. But, after that, there's very little need to ever format internal again.
Just root it and edit these two value <ctl name="RX1 Digital Volume" value="96" /><ctl name="RX2 Digital Volume" value="96" /> I put mine at 96 now it sounds way better than stock. Its system/etc/mixerpath by the way.
troyd28 said:
Just root it and edit these two value <ctl name="RX1 Digital Volume" value="96" /><ctl name="RX2 Digital Volume" value="96" /> I put mine at 96 now it sounds way better than stock. Its system/etc/mixerpath by the way.
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How are you doing this in android 7?
I have romtoolbox with rb text editor that work in android 6.
Tried other editors that let me change but will not save.
Well I'm learning, I may have done it the hard way by coping to computer & changing that way but it did work.
Edit: This little edit along with Deuteronomy 2.23 Classic makes sound outstanding!!!
Thanks troyd28
crackerjack1957 said:
Well I'm learning, I may have done it the hard way by coping to computer & changing that way but it did work.
Edit: This little edit along with Deuteronomy 2.23 Classic makes sound outstanding!!!
Thanks troyd28
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You're welcome, I try not to go above 96 because it distorts and sounds crappy I maxed it at 99, you can also edit the speaker of the phone itself or the microphone volume and other stuff in there. Thanks to the XDA community I learned that little trick.
Anyone get this to work on Pure Nexus?
It has 6 lines to change vrs 4 lines on stock rom.
When I change it breaks sound.
Edit: Forgot to set permissions, working now.
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Now that we have root for our Z3v's... I've been playing around with trying to find/edit the files that control our phones speaker volumes (both in call earpiece volume and speaker phone volume). I don't necessarily need to increase the speaker volume for playing music because most of the time I'm using bluetooth, but I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in that as well.
I'd like to be able to just modify the phones system files rather than use some sort of booster app.
From what I'm been able to find, the file located in /system/etc/ called mixer_paths.xml is what our device uses to control volume parameters. I've seen where other devices have had these types of files modified in order to boost max volumes.
Is this something we can do with our phones? The in call volume, both earpiece and speaker phone are just TOOOO quite for me.
This is about as far as I can comfortably go as I'm not a developer/programmer.
Anyone out there comfortable helping out with this idea? Is it possible.
hunter82i said:
Now that we have root for our Z3v's... I've been playing around with trying to find/edit the files that control our phones speaker volumes (both in call earpiece volume and speaker phone volume). I don't necessarily need to increase the speaker volume for playing music because most of the time I'm using bluetooth, but I'm sure a lot of people would be interested in that as well.
I'd like to be able to just modify the phones system files rather than use some sort of booster app.
From what I'm been able to find, the file located in /system/etc/ called mixer_paths.xml is what our device uses to control volume parameters. I've seen where other devices have had these types of files modified in order to boost max volumes.
Is this something we can do with our phones? The in call volume, both earpiece and speaker phone are just TOOOO quite for me.
This is about as far as I can comfortably go as I'm not a developer/programmer.
Anyone out there comfortable helping out with this idea? Is it possible.
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I also would like to know how to increase the volumes
I think it's almost comical how low the audio levels out of the headphone jack are. I don't know if this can be fixed or what but even playing at full volume it seems too low.
gabezermeno said:
I think it's almost comical how low the audio levels out of the headphone jack are. I don't know if this can be fixed or what but even playing at full volume it seems too low.
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I've been using the Sound Mod from Z3 Development version 3.3 with Dolby Digital Plus (I think it has beast audio) & the volume on the headphones is so loud at the second click up. They even have a way to go back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3015912
I'm using the beast audio mod as well. Good stuff.
scooby7557 said:
I've been using the Sound Mod from Z3 Development version 3.3 with Dolby Digital Plus (I think it has beast audio) & the volume on the headphones is so loud at the second click up. They even have a way to go back to stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3015912
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This mod says lollipop only, does it run on the vzw z3v?
Edit : Read entire post Nevermind. ?
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Sorry to dredge up an old thread.... You say you're using the sound mod. Did you flash that in recovery?
Checking this out first, just got root today and don't want a shiny new paperweight anytime soon
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Sorry to dredge up an old thread.... You say you're using the sound mod. Did you flash that in recovery?
Checking this out first, just got root today and don't want a shiny new paperweight anytime soon
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I did flash the sound mod through recovery but it only boosted speaker volumes, not in call volumes. I used the one without Dolby.
hunter82i said:
I did flash the sound mod through recovery but it only boosted speaker volumes, not in call volumes. I used the one without Dolby.
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Wow so we can flash .zip files in recovery now? Again just making sure, just rooted and there isn't a ton of info out there for our device atm. Thanks in advance
I flashed it in the dual recovery as well. Just make a backup first because the zip they have to take it back to stock isn't for our phone. In other words if you ever want to go back you should wipe & reload the backup. And make sure you don't install the lollipop version.
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Does this mod increase speaker volume in general? Like listening to music?
So, I've found that the audio on Lineage OS and other Roms based on LOS wasn't as good as on the stock firmware. Both when it comes to mic and headphones audio.
I followed this up by comparing the "mixer_paths.xml" files from Lineage OS between the file from stock marshmallow as well as stock nougat (A2017G model) and there are quite a few missing lines in the AOSP version and some lines that just have different values. B.T.W Is the "mixer_paths.xml" the only file where you edit values which have to do with audio?
Anyway, I then used the standard mixer file from the stock Marshmallow firmware on the Lineage OS rom and although the sound is lower than with the standard mixer file from LOS the audio is noticeably better according to my ears. (This could be placebo but I doubt it. I also use the HD 598 headphones which are quite good compared to many other headphones on the market so the difference in audio quality is easier to discover).
Feel free to try this out if you are on a AOSP rom and want better audio. Steps below:
1: Make sure you're rooted and have disabled system write protection.
2: Navigate to System -> etc -> mixer_paths.xml.
3: Cut the "mixer_paths.xml" file to a backup location in case you want to go back.
4: Download either the marshmallow or the nougat file that I've provided below and rename it to "mixer_paths.xml" and paste it in the same location. System -> etc.
5: Reboot.
6: Profit? I don't know, it's up to you if you think it sounds better. Remember that with cheap earbuds you most likely won't hear a difference, at least I wouldn't.
You can try the process with either the Nougat or the Marshmallow file i uploaded. The Nougat is a little bit louder.
In case you want to go back then just copy the mixer_paths.xml file you backed up and replace the current mixer_paths.xml file in the same directory as above. Also reboot.
Edit: As @RUNNERX pointed out, make sure that the permissions are set to 644 and then reboot to make sure it's working correctly.
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I think we need a properly soundmod...
I tried with stock ROM (B19 A2017U) but it only affects the Normal Mode in headphones.
There's so much potential with this device... Ak4490 is a beast that needs to be released from its "cage".
As far as I can tell, the problem is that no custom rom is using the akm dac?
This is too bad, especially since regular dac sounds in my opinion much much better (and different) in aosp with the latest sound fix compared to stock normal (loudness being part of it). Still it is clearly not the akm dac.
On stock, both normal and superior mode have some kind of strange tuning, almost like there is some postprocessing even with dolby off. On aosp that seems to be gone at least.
It was mentioned previously that the mixer XML was ignored and all changes needed to be made the (ADC**?) files. This has since been patched resulting in proper use of akm DAC. The issues with the sound not being as good quality wise lies within these files, not the XML.
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It was mentioned previously that the mixer XML was ignored and all changes needed to be made the (ADC**?) files. This has since been patched resulting in proper use of akm DAC. The issues with the sound not being as good quality wise lies within these files, not the XML.
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Ok. Where would I find these files?
icenight89 said:
It was mentioned previously that the mixer XML was ignored and all changes needed to be made the (ADC**?) files. This has since been patched resulting in proper use of akm DAC. The issues with the sound not being as good quality wise lies within these files, not the XML.
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So can anyone confirm that they got the akm dac working with headphones? (and comment on the results?)
I installed the AOSP extended 7.1.2 and then magisk zip, but it didn't seem to work, though it did play louder (and stereo on speakers).
Maybe I'll try a different rom...
cfbruck said:
So can anyone confirm that they got the akm dac working with headphones? (and comment on the results?)
I installed the AOSP extended 7.1.2 and then magisk zip, but it didn't seem to work, though it did play louder (and stereo on speakers).
Maybe I'll try a different rom...
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I was under the impression that the headphone DAC has been working since early March. The stereo speaker fix has nothing to do with the headphone DAC.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70971100&postcount=1041
Ok, it might just be that it sounds bad in the LOS-implementation then. Thanks to senny for exploring possibilities.
Just to give some feedback
This definitely changes the sound. Standard aosp sounded kind of raw to me, with tizzy trebles, though with a lot of detail. This makes it smoother, sounds more like it should in a way, easier to listen to.
There is some loss of information though, and soundstage a bit smaller.
(I found that if I tried to copy and replace the file it didn't work (sound not working). I had to first delete the mixer file present, then paste the other one.)
After replacing the file make sure permissions are 644 and reboot.
cfbruck said:
Just to give some feedback
This definitely changes the sound. Standard aosp sounded kind of raw to me, with tizzy trebles, though with a lot of detail. This makes it smoother, sounds more like it should in a way, easier to listen to.
There is some loss of information though, and soundstage a bit smaller.
(I found that if I tried to copy and replace the file it didn't work (sound not working). I had to first delete the mixer file present, then paste the other one.)
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Well good to hear that more people find a difference.
when i'm looking at this: http://blog.son-video.com/en/2017/01/test-fiio-x5-iii/
I can't help but think that ZTE could have done so much more to make the experience more complete. The fiio got viper pre-installed, and digital low pass filter to play with that are actually coming straight from AKM :
"Five different 32-bit digital filter types are available: Short delay sharp roll-off and short delay slow roll-off filters have overall short delay characteristics. Sharp roll-off filter and slow roll-off filter preserve the phase difference and a new filter that has even slower roll-off character was added to these four filters. They are selectable according to the user audio and system preferences."
We've got a phone with one of the best DAC in the world, but can't do much because android by default is limited, and it seems obvious that zte don't have a lot of experience when it comes to makes audiophile device. a partenrship with fiio, cayin, or ibasso would have been terrific, especially considering that fioo and cayin have both already launch a product with an akm4490 running on android at full potential.
Maybe we can hope that some developer with at interest in audio can unlock some of the potential.
Listening some more with the mixer files I have to say it really is a big improvement, especially with the marshmallow to me.
Whatever it is that makes it better should be part of LOS. Using LOS 14.1 with the beastmode kernal and the changed mixer paths - it actually sounds pretty good.
However, for me changing the mixerpaths breaks audio functionality. I get no audio in calls, neither speaker nor headphones. I am using the sounds fix for stereo speakers 4.1, maybe that affects it.
Does it work without side effects for you senny? Whats your setup?
No mixer_paths.xml
Hi,i have marshall london phone and i'm sure i don't have mixer_paths.xml to edit,please help me to find the file responsible for editing volume output values.
FocaTm said:
Hi,i have marshall london phone and i'm sure i don't have mixer_paths.xml to edit,please help me to find the file responsible for editing volume output values.
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same here I did not find the mixer_paths.xml file in my AOSP extended Android pie rom.
Install "Ainur JamesDSP v1.7" Magisk module and choose the HQ 64bit driver
Install "Audio Modification Library v.1.8.1" Magisk module
Reboot
Configure JamesDSP app
Confirmed working (speakers & headphones (can't test bluetooth)) on my FIG-LX1 (L31) - EMUI 8.0.0.148(C432) - Magisk v17.1
Edit: If you don't want ringtones/notification-sounds to be processed, switch DSP registration from global to conventional. (3dot menu - top right, screenshot added)
Huge thanks to natanrosenfeld (he made a YT video, explaining a fix for previous version (now fixed with v1.7)) - and especially the JamesDSP dev team!
Great news I seen it on .android-hilfe.de myself
Messing around and cant seem to get it right, either too loud or doesnt work
Viper4android was much easier to setup, using Huawei DTS.irs or srs_2_1.irs then not much else and worked great
redultra82 said:
Great news I seen it on .android-hilfe.de myself
Messing around and cant seem to get it right, either too loud or doesnt work
Viper4android was much easier to setup, using Huawei DTS.irs or srs_2_1.irs then not much else and worked great
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Have you tried using the same impulse response files with JamesDSP?
Copy the .irs (or .wav, .flac) to /storage/emulated/0/JamesDSP/Convolver and enable Convolver in JamesDSP.
Works great here.
Greetings from "androphil"
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Have you tried using the same impulse response files with JamesDSP?
Copy the .irs (or .wav, .flac) to /storage/emulated/0/JamesDSP/Convolver and enable Convolver in JamesDSP.
Works great here.
Greetings from "androphil"
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I did thanks
Can you send screenshot of what you have, not sure on other settings
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(...)Can you send screenshot of what you have, not sure on other settings
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Even if we'd share the exact same setup (e.g. settings/IR xy sound great with my Shure SE425 in-ear headphones, but not so great with my AKG Q701) and preference of music, it would still be incredibly subjective and mainly based on taste. Certified sound-engineers would probably disagree, I guess
My suggestion is: leave every (other) option off, download a pack of different IRs (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/collection-convolver-samples-389-t3140299) and try each one out. If you found one you like, (slightly) tune it with the EQ. At least that's my "non-pro" approach.
Mostly all I want is to make the phone louder, well the phone speaker, on Bluetooth speakers etc it's fairly OK
Next issue is echo sound on ringtone and notification
I'll try IRS out and maybe someday have Viper4android
It's a system-wide audio-mod, so yes, if you have e.g. Virtual Room Effect turned on or use a noticably "reverberating" impulse response file, you'll experience echo on ringtones/notification-sounds too.
I've managed to make the speakers slightly louder by choosing the highest IR Volume Level (30dB), but I think the device's speaker volume level/overall sound-quality is just physically limited. They are not the "best" speakers after all.
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It's a system-wide audio-mod, so yes, if you have e.g. Virtual Room Effect turned on or use a noticably "reverberating" impulse response file, you'll experience echo on ringtones/notification-sounds too.
I've managed to make the speakers slightly louder by choosing the highest IR Volume Level (30dB), but I think the device's speaker volume level/overall sound-quality is just physically limited. They are not the "best" speakers after all.
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I noticed the room effect and turned it off, but just using Irs or some of them and seemed to be an echo,
Speaker is good enough, it is only a phone after all, there are small bluetooth speakers now that have great volume to help
A nice guy from the Telegram channel pointed out, that you can avoid processing system sounds (ringtones/notification) by switching DSP registration mode from global to conventional (screenshot added to OP).
YEEEES!!!! This mod is also working on Huawei P20Pro with EMUI8.1.. I just follow the same steps above. Thanks a lot man!
callmeWhiskers said:
Install "Ainur JamesDSP v1.7" Magisk module and choose the HQ 64bit driver
Install "Audio Modification Library v.1.8.1" Magisk module
Reboot
Configure JamesDSP app
Confirmed working (speakers & headphones (can't test bluetooth)) on my FIG-LX1 (L31) - EMUI 8.0.0.148(C432) - Magisk v17.1
Edit: If you don't want ringtones/notification-sounds to be processed, switch DSP registration from global to conventional. (3dot menu - top right, screenshot added)
Huge thanks to natanrosenfeld (he made a YT video, explaining a fix for previous version (now fixed with v1.7)) - and especially the JamesDSP dev team!
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Hi do you know if I can change mixer path values without root and using adb on pc? , I'm trying to raise volume of WhatsApp calls, calls and maybe a bit of loud speaker volume but I'm trying to avoid root etc. Thanks any advice would be appreciated or a link to tutorials. I'm on psmart. Thanks again
jason13v8 said:
Hi do you know if I can change mixer path values without root and using adb on pc? , I'm trying to raise volume of WhatsApp calls, calls and maybe a bit of loud speaker volume but I'm trying to avoid root etc. Thanks any advice would be appreciated or a link to tutorials. I'm on psmart. Thanks again
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Sorry - I'm not an expert, so don't take my word for it - but I don't think that's possible, since all these files are stored in locations, where (non root) users don't have write permissions. Even with a rooted and/or custom recovery device, I don't think it's possible to alter app-specific volumes by just changing mixer_paths.xml values.
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Sorry - I'm not an expert, so don't take my word for it - but I don't think that's possible, since all these files are stored in locations, where (non root) users don't have write permissions. Even with a rooted and/or custom recovery device, I don't think it's possible to alter app-specific volumes by just changing mixer_paths.xml values.
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Sorry I know I mentioned whats app but really I just mean overall volume. With my moto g5 I was able to edit mixer path values which led to louder everything. But that was only with root as I'm new to adb. Thanks for your response
jason13v8 said:
Sorry I know I mentioned whats app but really I just mean overall volume. With my moto g5 I was able to edit mixer path values which led to louder everything. But that was only with root as I'm new to adb. Thanks for your response
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In case your bootloader is unlocked, iirc you could theoretically fastboot flash TWRP - and use TWRP's "privileged" terminal (e.g. (mount /system), adb pull/push and edit the file(s)), and then (re)flash stock recovery again - without actually rooting the device.
Again, I'm not an expert (also didn't try it myself) and can't guarantee above mentioned procedure works, despite my inner-Sherlock-Holmes tells me, your bootloader is actually not unlocked.
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In case your bootloader is unlocked, iirc you could theoretically fastboot flash TWRP - and use TWRP's "privileged" terminal (e.g. (mount /system), adb pull/push and edit the file(s)), and then (re)flash stock recovery again - without actually rooting the device.
Again, I'm not an expert (also didn't try it myself) and can't guarantee above mentioned procedure works, despite my inner-Sherlock-Holmes tells me, your bootloader is actually not unlocked.
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Yeah still locked dude, tried DC unlocker but they refunded as I'm on latest security patch and admitted there is nothing they can do right now.
Themes
Hi,
I noticed a weird static noise in my headphones when listening to music or any app using the default Android output. This is strong enough to be annoying at the lowest volume steps, and I can also notice it at higher volume when the track is quiet.
I think this noise is here from the start : H930DS HK bought in November, ROMs open EU 21o to 22j and even stock HK ROM if I remember correctly (I followed the WTF thread as soon as I received it but I tried it on original HK ROM). It is completely independent from headphones, but I don't have high impedance ones to test if it would disappear in this situation.
However, I am a proud user of Poweramp... and the experimental high res output (set up on 24 bits / 48kHz) is able to completely annihilate the static noise for all my tracks (encoded 16 or 24 bits / 44100Hz to 96kHz, flac or 320 MP3). Quad DAC section effects are working but unfortunately DTS:X is bypassed. In fact, if I disable Direct Volume Control the noise is back : in this situation it seems I can't use any audio effect.
I am completely unable to recreate this effect with Ainur Narsil or any audio mod (like Ainur, then I stopped experimenting with it as I read somewhere it would disable the Quad DAC).
How is this possible ? I already spent hours studying system .xml files, XDA threads and tried installing/uninstalling audio mods, but I didn't find any solution. My android audio knowledge is limited, so I came here to figured this out : does anyone have a suggestion ?
Thanks for reading this looooooong post :victory: !
Jilano34 said:
Hi,
I noticed a weird static noise in my headphones when listening to music or any app using the default Android output. This is strong enough to be annoying at the lowest volume steps, and I can also notice it at higher volume when the track is quiet.
I think this noise is here from the start : H930DS HK bought in November, ROMs open EU 21o to 22j and even stock HK ROM if I remember correctly (I followed the WTF thread as soon as I received it but I tried it on original HK ROM). It is completely independent from headphones, but I don't have high impedance ones to test if it would disappear in this situation.
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If you have any audio mod, uninstall all of them.
use Hifi status app to check whther your headphone is recognized as high impendance due to bae connection.
Overall, the static noise only happens on HIM mode ( which turn avc to 0 hence generate the noise), so if you have any mod that force HIm mod, it will make that noise. if everything is still happens with my suggestion (no HIM mode mod, and headphone recognize as normal headphone) you can try changing the avc from 14 to higher (18 or 20)
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If everything is still happens with my suggestion (no HIM mode mod, and headphone recognize as normal headphone) you can try changing the avc from 14 to higher (18 or 20)
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So, I deleted all my audio related mods and even reinstalled my custom kernel with HIM disabled. HiFi app does not show high impedance whatsoever, but the noise is still here...
I'm trying to figure out by myself how to modify the AVC, but I have a few questions : can I achieve that through system file modification (I will make my personal Magisk mod then) ? If it's the case, will I need aml when using audio mod ?
Thank you a lot for your answer.
Jilano34 said:
So, I deleted all my audio related mods and even reinstalled my custom kernel with HIM disabled. HiFi app does not show high impedance whatsoever, but the noise is still here...
I'm trying to figure out by myself how to modify the AVC, but I have a few questions : can I achieve that through system file modification (I will make my personal Magisk mod then) ? If it's the case, will I need aml when using audio mod ?
Thank you a lot for your answer.
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are you on stock? try modified the mixer_path_tavil.xml in vendor/etc. try searching for ess dac start then modified the next following avc value (one is 14 one is 0) to 16 or 18 to see how it goes
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are you on stock? try modified the mixer_path_tavil.xml in vendor/etc. try searching for ess dac start then modified the next following avc value (one is 14 one is 0) to 16 or 18 to see how it goes
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Well, I am on stock so I found the ESS DAC section in mixer_path_tavil and started to experiment with the values. I still don't understand which section serve which purpose, but with the avc value to 21 (3 times higher than the standard value from Anxious V30 mod) for the dac sections and 9 for the aux sections, the static noise is now gone.
I spend a long time trying to understand how mixer_path_tavil works... Is there a complete manual somewhere I can study ?
Jilano34 said:
Well, I am on stock so I found the ESS DAC section in mixer_path_tavil and started to experiment with the values. I still don't understand which section serve which purpose, but with the avc value to 21 (3 times higher than the standard value from Anxious V30 mod) for the dac sections and 9 for the aux sections, the static noise is now gone.
I spend a long time trying to understand how mixer_path_tavil works... Is there a complete manual somewhere I can study ?
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For your information, hifi-dac = normal headphone, hifi-dac-advanced = high impedance headphone, hifi-dac-aux = aux (car or speaker)
The value is as following
ctl name="Es9018 AVC Volume" value="8" /> --> stock is 14, the higher, the smaller volume output, FYI, AVC stand for analogue volume control (basically should make less noise comparing to digital gain)
<ctl name="Es9018 Master Volume" value="0" /> --> no idea, should have no effect on audio quality, seem the lower the louder volume is
<ctl name="Es9018 HEADSET TYPE" value="1" /> --> type of headset, 1 = normal, 2 = high impedance, 3 = aux, this should determine the voltage output ( supposed so, but voltage output also hardcoded in kernel , so no idea how this turn out)
Edit: My headphone (64 Ohm custom headphone) was fine with HIM set at 8 (not 0), as i talked with John (developer of Ainur and narsil) , he said that he have no prob on his headphone, so it all fall down to headphone quality or so
Edit2: yes anxious mod modified to pseudo forced HIm mode and also mess up with DTS value (IMO, worse than stock)
Jilano34 said:
Well, I am on stock so I found the ESS DAC section in mixer_path_tavil and started to experiment with the values. I still don't understand which section serve which purpose, but with the avc value to 21 (3 times higher than the standard value from Anxious V30 mod) for the dac sections and 9 for the aux sections, the static noise is now gone.
I spend a long time trying to understand how mixer_path_tavil works... Is there a complete manual somewhere I can study ?
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I just want to point out that modding the values DOES NOT force HIM or AUX mode. Anxious and another op pointed this out as well.
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Mrxyzl said:
are you on stock? try modified the mixer_path_tavil.xml in vendor/etc. try searching for ess dac start then modified the next following avc value (one is 14 one is 0) to 16 or 18 to see how it goes
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That only changes volume lvl. It does not set DAC mode.
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I just want to point out that modding the values DOES NOT force HIM or AUX mode. Anxious and another op pointed this out as well.
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That only changes volume lvl. It does not set DAC mode.
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And yes, no one talking about changing the mode , he just had a problem with noise, i tell him to change the value and problem gone
I don't care about forced HIM (or falsified/pseudo/...), as I understand it's just a gain (you're not wasting your arguments on other threads @BROKEN1981 !). The modded DTS parameters I use are from JohnFawkes (he published them a while ago) and I like this side-by-side effect. In fact I state using Anxious mod but I edit it to match my needs... And now, I have installed narsil and jamesdsp : thanks to both of you my setup is perfect and noiseless.
I just don't understand how Poweramp with its HiFi Audio can clean all static noise without lowering my volume or anything... This is really weird.
Jilano34 said:
I don't care about forced HIM (or falsified/pseudo/...), as I understand it's just a gain (you're not wasting your arguments on other threads @BROKEN1981 !). The modded DTS parameters I use are from JohnFawkes (he published them a while ago) and I like this side-by-side effect. In fact I state using Anxious mod but I edit it to match my needs... And now, I have installed narsil and jamesdsp : thanks to both of you my setup is perfect and noiseless.
I just don't understand how Poweramp with its HiFi Audio can clean all static noise without lowering my volume or anything... This is really weird.
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Glad you have it sorted out, sucks when you have static when you're trying to listen to music.
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I upgraded from a V35 to a V60 and an very happy with the audio quality.
However, I listen to classic rock. Now I find that either Android, LG or Verizon has limited the LG V60's volume to 75% while using plug-in headset earphones and/or plug-in earbuds.
After two months of phone calls, in person visits to Verizon and web seatching there is nothing that can be done from a user perspective, that I can find. I've tried a couple of "volume booster" apps with zero success.
I've found this limitation using LG's earbuds, every set of earbuds I own, and, with Beyerdynamic 770's (250 ohm, Note, after reading reviews, I assumed the V60 would drive those 770's w/o issue). The limitation also exists played thru a NobSound DAC.
I've seen mention of "Poweramp" in other audio related threads, used in the thread to boost output from 48khz to 192khz, which should be amazing. But there are several similarly named apps...my guess is the aforementioned app is "PowerAmp Full Version Unlocker", for $5.49. Would this help volume as well?
Is there anyway to defeat this limitation?
Even a 10% increase would be satisfactory.
What if you turn on the DAC setting in the quick-settings? I'm sure you already thought of that.
svetius said:
What if you turn on the DAC setting in the quick-settings? I'm sure you already thought of that.
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Yes, no effect.
I'm using the Neutron Player app which has a 'use on-board device's volume control' option you could turn off & use your DAC. I did this to use my tablet with an iFi DSD nano and the next time I used the [stupid] USB C to 3.5mm dongle without the DAC, it nearly blasted my ears. So if you try it, be careful when you're not using an external DAC.
The app is a pain to setup but that's because, in part, it has so many configuration options. Think Android vs iPhone taken up several notches. Once it's setup, you'll get used to the GUI/Ux itself which I did not find intuitive. Anyway, there's a free eval. version if you wanted to check it out.
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Yes, no effect.
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Hmm....I know this kind of sucks, but how about an external DAC? Those usually work via USB C and can provide very loud, very clean output.
Op is using a DAC.
The limitation also exists played thru a NobSound DAC.
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I'm using the Neutron Player app which has a 'use on-board device's volume control' option you could turn off & use your DAC. I did this to use my tablet with an iFi DSD nano and the next time I used the [stupid] USB C to 3.5mm dongle without the DAC, it nearly blasted my ears. So if you try it, be careful when you're not using an external DAC.
The app is a pain to setup but that's because, in part, it has so many configuration options. Think Android vs iPhone taken up several notches. Once it's setup, you'll get used to the GUI/Ux itself which I did not find intuitive. Anyway, there's a free eval. version if you wanted to check it out.
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Thanks. It seems an app will be the solution. And I've seen Neutron Player mentioned in other threads.
To repeat your method as I understand it: Neutron allows me to turn off the phone's volume (which will bypass the 75% limitation) and send the raw signal via Neutron to my external DAC which will ultimately control volume?
And Im a bit confused by your advice to use caution the next time I plug in my phones directly into my phone with my wired headphone's 3.5 jack? That implies the phones limits are permanently bypassed? Am I understanding you correctly?
I'm also curious over PowerAmp app as well. Not being tech savy, intuitive is a plus.
And again, many thanks for taking the time to comment!
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To repeat your method as I understand it: Neutron allows me to turn off the phone's volume (which will bypass the 75% limitation) and send the raw signal via Neutron to my external DAC which will ultimately control volume?
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Correct!
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And Im a bit confused by your advice to use caution the next time I plug in my phones directly into my phone with my wired headphone's 3.5 jack? That implies the phones limits are permanently bypassed? Am I understanding you correctly?
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Right, so Neutron has another setting (and it could be Android too, not sure), that starts the app automatically when you connect headphones. Or at least it offers to start, and you can easily accidentally tap it when it pops up. I wanted to bypass my tablet's volume when I connected my external DAC, since that has a hardwire volume control so I enabled that 'bypass device's volume' control. However, later when I went to use my tablet to watch a quick video I plugged in my every day earphones, probably tapped Neutron player unintentionally, and it started playing at max volume. On my V60 phone that probably isn't super loud, especially from what you're saying. However on my Samsung tablet it was screaming loud. It happened long enough ago that I've forgotten the exact circumstances.
Anyway, that control doesn't permanently bypass the phone's volume control. You can shut it off, and I can't say for sure if it has any affect on other apps. I only made that mistake once. Later I realized the volume in Neutron was loud enough with my DAC connected. The internal volume may well be bypassed automatically. I guess I need to listen to some music again through this rig soon to test it out. Unfortunately for both of us that won't be tonight.
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I'm also curious over PowerAmp app as well. Not being tech savy, intuitive is a plus.
And again, many thanks for taking the time to comment!
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I haven't used PowerAmp since it first came out in the early 2000s with the advent of MP3s. But chances are it is more intuitive than Neutron Player. I'm a professional audio engineer by trade & tech nerd, yet still get caught up in the menus and different screens all the time. If it didn't sound so good and stream DSD files right along side PCM audio, and stream my entire music collection from my NAS, I'd kick it right to the curb.
My pleasure. Hope this helps! Cheers.
Any real solution for this yet? I think it can be bypassed with root access to the build prop or the sound mixer found in system/vendor/etc.
Any rooted user care to check?
Are you saying this can be fix in build prop?? Which entry?
I'm about to root my phone. Have already BL unlock it.
hooutoo said:
Are you saying this can be fix in build prop?? Which entry?
I'm about to root my phone. Have already BL unlock it.
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It should be in one of those two files. Most likely the sound mixer file though. I don't know exactly how the entry will look but i would guess something like "headphone volume limitations = max 75"
Change 75 to 100 save and reboot.
Again this is all just guesswork I'm not a developer and haven't rooted this particular phone yet and likely won't unless we get a custom aosp.