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Hi everyone, I have the OnePlus X and very happy with it, but in the back of my mind there's still that small issue that's it has last year specs, now gearbest has the Xiaomi Mi4c for £150, £30 cheaper then the OnePlus X, I just want to hear you opinion, if you would swap the X with the Mi4c, considering the that the Mi4c has up to date specs, IR blaster, better camera and a CM13 build already... Looking at this seems like a no brainer, but for some reason I still feel like I should stay with the X
Let me know your thoughts and have a awesome Christmas...
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Mi4c is like a polycarbinate OPX that runs faster and lasts longer. The only issue would be network support so check the bands first. I suggest you spend a little extra to get the 3/32GB version as no SD card is supported.
OnePlus X , definitely
Karly Johnston said:
Mi4c is like a polycarbinate OPX that runs faster and lasts longer. The only issue would be network support so check the bands first. I suggest you spend a little extra to get the 3/32GB version as no SD card is supported.
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Runs faster where? You mean everyday life/use or the difference is only notable on heavy usage? And what about smoothness?
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hugoprh said:
Hi everyone, I have the OnePlus X and very happy with it, but in the back of my mind there's still that small issue that's it has last year specs, now gearbest has the Xiaomi Mi4c for £150, £30 cheaper then the OnePlus X, I just want to hear you opinion, if you would swap the X with the Mi4c, considering the that the Mi4c has up to date specs, IR blaster, better camera and a CM13 build already... Looking at this seems like a no brainer, but for some reason I still feel like I should stay with the X
Let me know your thoughts and have a awesome Christmas...
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Xiaomi better HW, 1+X better OS(in US)
i do agree mi4c has better hw but opx will have better dev support in the long run. miui updates do come in on a weekly basis with their beta roms but lack in custom roms. Mi4c cm13 has bugs still and so as opx's cm13. do note that miui rom runs heavily as well. it all comes down to tuning in the end of the day really.
Yeah, I'll stay with the OPX for now, hopefully the dev support will continue, now that MasterAwesome has stopped developing for OPX =( he help loads with the progress of CM12.1, if the OPX has the same support has the original OPO, then yes, this will be totally worth it
Thanks for your opinion guys =D
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Runs faster where? You mean everyday life/use or the difference is only notable on heavy usage? And what about smoothness?
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Runs faster everywhere, especially in gaming and web browsing. Mi4c also has much faster internal NAND as Oneplus really cheaped out on emmc. It might not look like a flagship, but it sure runs like one. The 801 was beast in its day but it is two years old now. It isn't Armv8, doesn't support Open GL 3.1, isn't 64 bit, has slow storage... it is over a year behind the internals of Mi4c and its performance confirms this. Not to mention battery life is 40% better on the Mi4c. It has three ROMs out not to mention the entire MIUI community. It checks out as a better device unless you just care about looks. That goes to OPX.
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Runs faster everywhere, especially in gaming and web browsing. Mi4c also has much faster internal NAND as Oneplus really cheaped out on emmc. It might not look like a flagship, but it sure runs like one. The 801 was beast in its day but it is two years old now. It isn't Armv8, doesn't support Open GL 3.1, isn't 64 bit, has slow storage... it is over a year behind the internals of Mi4c and its performance confirms this. Not to mention battery life is 40% better on the Mi4c. It has three ROMs out not to mention the entire MIUI community. It checks out as a better device unless you just care about looks. That goes to OPX.
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I think you're wrong. --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz5tU9lBjQ4
I'm currently using CM12.1 (stable 3.0) by MasterAawesome. Also I have used Mi4c, its a good performer. In the end it's Oneplus X which feels way more luxurious in hand than Mi4c. Also dev support for O+X is on rise. MasterAwesome's build already running just fine, not to mention three are some things yet to be fixed. On other side O+X's kernel has been made public. WHICH leads to some serious kernel build for stock OxygenOS e.g. Blue_spark by know name here on XDA. I would definitely not hesitate recommending Oneplus X over Mi4c.
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4c: Plastic feeling too strong
Xiaomi 4C is too thick and heavy. I much prefer X.
I own both I I can't say which one is the best.
It depends of your priority.
For heavy use and gaming, I would recommend Mi4c (if the 32Go are enought for your games / music....). Battery is really good.
For other use, I would recommand OPX. The screen is better. I find it more ergonomical or practical to use. Don't know why, it's just a felling. Battery is not bad at all. Dieep Idle, is good.
I can last around 2,5 days with a little use (airplane during night, gmail synchro and phone, something like 3H screen on on this period.)
There are others Pro / Cons : NFC / Tuner Radio....
Ah, and reverse thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/mi-4c-oneplus-x-t3240885
It my moderately extensive battery testing, the OPX smoked the Mi4c (OPX best = 7 hours 51 minutes, while Mi4C best was 5 hours 30 minutes) in the web page refresh test, and matched the Mi4c in the video playback test (best score from both was 6 hours 45 minutes). Yes, this is not "real world" usage OST tests, but they are indicative.
Also note that Mi4c kernel has not been released and may never be released.
The hardware differences powerwise (SoC etc...), while measurable, is not something you'd ever notice in real life usage unless rendering video or compiling code.
Mi4c has a better camera, but will anyone notice if you're only posting on Facebook and in emails, eg digital sharing / not making big prints? Probably not. The IR remote is a real positive for Mi4c if you have devices you'd really use it with. For myself, the possibility of TF SD expansion with the OPX is a far bigger bonus than IR remote.
I'm not downing the Mi4c. It's a great choice, but in terms of day-to-day typical and most beyond typical usage, the benefits of the stronger SoC and better camera aren't enough to recommend it over the OPX with TF SD slot, already released kernel and likely much broader custom ROM support for the foreseeable future.
So I went completely different way xD, I ordered a Huawei P8, I saw one for £165 and went for it, I know that dev support is non existing, but with Android 6 already available, I decided to try it, the design seems impressive and reviews say wonders about the camera, very important for me, with 2 young kids, a good camera is important, OPX was not bad at all, but some detail is missing from the photos...
I'll probably keep the P8 for a week or 2 and then I'll move along
Thanks everyone for you opinions =D and have a good year =D
Hi guys, I'm Hosso, sorry my poor English
Please let me know how is this phone in real life? Many mixed reviews are confusing me. Also please understand that I live in Mongolia and when I purchase something from US it will take 3-4 weeks to get here and purchase is not good/faulty then impossible to return, so I have to be very careful.
My current phone is Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and it is dying. When I compare SGNote 3 and Oneplus X in GSMArena I see almost same specs such as Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400, Adreno 330. I installed Cyanogenmod on my SGNote 3 when CM was available and still with CM ever since.
I want a phone with good battery life, good camera and good GPS, because I do lots of traveling, hiking, camping and taking outdoor pictures. But this time I can spend only $250-$350.
If software is only an issue on Oneplus X then how is it perform in CM? I've been using all my previous phones with CM, I have very good experience with CM, if all problems is related to Oxygen OS then I'm happy to install CM. But how stable is current CM?
My current choices are below, if you were me which one would you choose? Also if there are any other recommendation please let me know.
- Oneplus X (Good price, looks nice, to me small is really good, for one handed use in cycling, driving, hiking etc. But unknown to this brand and there are so many mixed reviews are scaring me, specs are outdated) $249
- Nexus 5X (Looks nice, smaller, fingerprint scanner but mixed reviews, medium spec) $349
- Nexus 6 (Water resistant, good reviews but discontinued, too big) $349
I hope I find my solution here and I think this is the best community in the internet
Thank you guys.
Hosso
hbayar_morph said:
Hi guys, I'm Hosso, sorry my poor English
Please let me know how is this phone in real life? Many mixed reviews are confusing me. Also please understand that I live in Mongolia and when I purchase something from US it will take 3-4 weeks to get here and purchase is not good/faulty then impossible to return, so I have to be very careful.
My current phone is Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and it is dying. When I compare SGNote 3 and Oneplus X in GSMArena I see almost same specs such as Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400, Adreno 330. I installed Cyanogenmod on my SGNote 3 when CM was available and still with CM ever since.
I want a phone with good battery life, good camera and good GPS, because I do lots of traveling, hiking, camping and taking outdoor pictures. But this time I can spend only $250-$350.
If software is only an issue on Oneplus X then how is it perform in CM? I've been using all my previous phones with CM, I have very good experience with CM, if all problems is related to Oxygen OS then I'm happy to install CM. But how stable is current CM?
My current choices are below, if you were me which one would you choose? Also if there are any other recommendation please let me know.
- Oneplus X (Good price, looks nice, to me small is really good, for one handed use in cycling, driving, hiking etc. But unknown to this brand and there are so many mixed reviews are scaring me, specs are outdated) $249
- Nexus 5X (Looks nice, smaller, fingerprint scanner but mixed reviews, medium spec) $349
- Nexus 6 (Water resistant, good reviews but discontinued, too big) $349
I hope I find my solution here and I think this is the best community in the internet
Thank you guys.
Hosso
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Why is your note 3 dying? Perhaps its better for you to buy a new battery (or other parts). Because in performance it will be almost the same.
My experience with opx is that it's the best < 140x70 mm with 5" device for me. Close followed is xiaomi mi4, but lack of amoled and design quality (aluminum trims) made me go for opx. My sot is stable around 6 hours with stock oos and root.
Mi4c has better battery life and better camera (when not tweaked). Mi5 has better hardware.
Huawei is an alternative too.
But both are less custom roms capable!
OPX has a tons of alternatives!
PS : it doesn't come from the US...
Well to be honest this OPX device maybe is not the best spec phone ever, but im my opinion for its price its a master piece, ther way it performs is absolutely great in every situation. From my view the important thing was to have a device with a good GPS, this phone is awesome at that, and of course, I wont use my phone to gaming but to work, that is the main point.
Everything depends on your necessities, mines are absolutely fulfilled with this phone.
Positive points are, overall performance and multitasking, its very fast 0 lag from my experience.
As negative I have some too, im honest, The gyroscope is not 100% precise, but nothing important just some little degrees.
And another point is that the back glass can get little scratches very easy.
I cant say nothign about that the gaming is bad cause I dont buy this device for gaming , instead of that I would have bough a gtx 970 for that purpose.
And the most important thing, and what for what I finallly decided to buy this phone, the magnificent team of independent developers, specially this community that bring us many possibilites and tweak our phones to be even more satisfied with them
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Mi4c has better battery life and better camera (when not tweaked). Mi5 has better hardware.
Huawei is an alternative too.
But both are less custom roms capable!
OPX has a tons of alternatives!
PS : it doesn't come from the US...
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Mi4C has touchscreen problems and no custom kernels. But a better CPU.
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Why is your note 3 dying? Perhaps its better for you to buy a new battery (or other parts). Because in performance it will be almost the same.
My experience with opx is that it's the best < 140x70 mm with 5" device for me. Close followed is xiaomi mi4, but lack of amoled and design quality (aluminum trims) made me go for opx. My sot is stable around 6 hours with stock oos and root.
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Thank you guys for taking time to answers my questions to help me make my decision. I just ordered onyx OPX .
About my Note 3, last summer I have dropped it into the river. Technician said he fixed it but it is acting weirdly since then, specially last 2 months, such as randomly restarts, freezes etc, so annoying. And I'm starting to like small phones, after using my girlfriend's Galaxy S5, it is so easy to use when I'm in active situations
Hey guys , i am about to buy a new phone and my options are: Nexus 5X, HTC M8 and Redmi Note 3 PRO.
I want to know which one has the : 1.better cpu/gpu for games
2.battery life and HEALTH over time because i want to stick with it at least 2 years.
3.which one is more future proof
I know the nexus 5x has the best support for CM which i like but the battery life is a very big downside.
And i want to know if its true that: if there is COLD WEATHER (-5/-10 degrees) outside the battery drains almost VERY fast ? FOR REDMI NOTE 3 PRO (i red this problems on a forum)
Hope you can guys help me sort it out.
Redmi Note 3 pro is definetly the best bang for buck, for performance and updates I'd go for 5X but that's much expensive than this device, I won't touch HTC.
In short, if you want a good phone for a decent price, go for Note 3 Pro, but if you want more performance then go for 5X, but in my opinion, kenzo has everything I need, good speed, fp sensor, and regular updates thanks to devs!
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Redmi Note 3 pro is definetly the best bang for buck, for performance and updates I'd go for 5X but that's much expensive than this device, I won't touch HTC.
In short, if you want a good phone for a decent price, go for Note 3 Pro, but if you want more performance then go for 5X, but in my opinion, kenzo has everything I need, good speed, fp sensor, and regular updates thanks to devs!
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What? SD650 performs better than 808 in both CPU and GPU, not even mentioning temperatures difference, battery and no throttling in SD650. It's not reddit, so let's just stop falsely praise Nexus devices, while in terms of performance they are below Xiaomi models. Hell, on Kenzo you can easily get twice as much SOT as in Nexus 5X, it's like not even competition at this point. I switched from 5X to Redmi Note 3 Pro and I'd say it was big upgrade, kenzo is just better in almost every term.
To OP, in all 3 of these points kenzo destroys rivals, you'd get a bit worse camera but that's probably only downside of this device, if you don't really use it that often then there is just no reason to not buy RN3Pro, and about that problem, I'm often using it outside and where I live, right now there is like -7 to -12 degrees and I haven't seen any drain, battery drops normally just like when I'm home.
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Redmi Note 3 pro is definetly the best bang for buck, for performance and updates I'd go for 5X but that's much expensive than this device, I won't touch HTC.
In short, if you want a good phone for a decent price, go for Note 3 Pro, but if you want more performance then go for 5X, but in my opinion, kenzo has everything I need, good speed, fp sensor, and regular updates thanks to devs!
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What? SD650 performs better than 808 in both CPU and GPU, not even mentioning temperatures difference, battery and no throttling in SD650. It's not reddit, so let's just stop falsely praise Nexus devices, while in terms of performance they are below Xiaomi models. Hell, on Kenzo you can easily get twice as much SOT as in Nexus 5X, it's like not even competition at this point. I switched from 5X to Redmi Note 3 Pro and I'd say it was big upgrade, kenzo is just better in almost every term.
To OP, in all 3 of these points kenzo destroys rivals, you'd get a bit worse camera but that's probably only downside of this device, if you don't really use it that often then there is just no reason to not buy RN3Pro, and about that problem, I'm often using it outside and where I live, right now there is like -7 to -12 degrees and I haven't seen any drain, battery drops normally just like when I'm home.
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So 3 more questions: I DONT CARE ABOUT CAMERA FIRST.
1. For gaming which one is the better one from these 2?
2. If i live in a cold country the fast draining battery when its -5 -10 Degrees is a deal breaker?
3.I heard something about xiaomi note 4x with 653 is real or its the normal xiaomi note 4 snapdragon ?
Man...its around -20 celsius where I live everyday right now for over a month and kenzo works flawless... iPhones are dying because of that non stop...first time I hear it for kenzo...
As for performance...its amazing, no lagg, even Vulkan support, simply the best for this value, better from 5x in every segment...
Redmi note 4 came new with SD625 which is less powerful, but supposedly even more battery friendly...but I get around 8-10h SoT most of the time so it doesnt really matter, compared to 5x, like 3h
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So 3 more questions: I DONT CARE ABOUT CAMERA FIRST.
1. For gaming which one is the better one from these 2?
2. If i live in a cold country the fast draining battery when its -5 -10 Degrees is a deal breaker?
3.I heard something about xiaomi note 4x with 653 is real or its the normal xiaomi note 4 snapdragon ?
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1. Between Redmi Note 3 Pro and Nexus 5X? Xiaomi, it has slightly better CPU and GPU but the real deal breaker is throttling and temperatures. On SD808 after some time it will get hot and CPU will start throttling, especially while playing for some time, on SD650 there is no such thing, phone might get a bit warmer, but you probably won't even feel it. Plus battery will drain a lot slower on 650.
2. I don't know about Nexus while it's cold because I got rid of mine before it's first winter, but Redmi Note 3 Pro doesn't really care about temperature outside. It works as good wherever it is.
3. Honestly I have no idea. I've heard about it too but after relase of Redmi Note 4 (Snapdragon) I'm not even sure if it's still gonna be relased. Guess we have to wait.
balazs312 said:
Redmi Note 3 pro is definetly the best bang for buck, for performance and updates I'd go for 5X but that's much expensive than this device, I won't touch HTC.
In short, if you want a good phone for a decent price, go for Note 3 Pro, but if you want more performance then go for 5X, but in my opinion, kenzo has everything I need, good speed, fp sensor, and regular updates thanks to devs!
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quantesh said:
What? SD650 performs better than 808 in both CPU and GPU, not even mentioning temperatures difference, battery and no throttling in SD650. It's not reddit, so let's just stop falsely praise Nexus devices, while in terms of performance they are below Xiaomi models. Hell, on Kenzo you can easily get twice as much SOT as in Nexus 5X, it's like not even competition at this point. I switched from 5X to Redmi Note 3 Pro and I'd say it was big upgrade, kenzo is just better in almost every term.
To OP, in all 3 of these points kenzo destroys rivals, you'd get a bit worse camera but that's probably only downside of this device, if you don't really use it that often then there is just no reason to not buy RN3Pro, and about that problem, I'm often using it outside and where I live, right now there is like -7 to -12 degrees and I haven't seen any drain, battery drops normally just like when I'm home.
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Man...its around -20 celsius where I live everyday right now for over a month and kenzo works flawless... iPhones are dying because of that non stop...first time I hear it for kenzo...
As for performance...its amazing, no lagg, even Vulkan support, simply the best for this value, better from 5x in every segment...
Redmi note 4 came new with SD625 which is less powerful, but supposedly even more battery friendly...but I get around 8-10h SoT most of the time so it doesnt really matter, compared to 5x, like 3h
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quantesh said:
1. Between Redmi Note 3 Pro and Nexus 5X? Xiaomi, it has slightly better CPU and GPU but the real deal breaker is throttling and temperatures. On SD808 after some time it will get hot and CPU will start throttling, especially while playing for some time, on SD650 there is no such thing, phone might get a bit warmer, but you probably won't even feel it. Plus battery will drain a lot slower on 650.
2. I don't know about Nexus while it's cold because I got rid of mine before it's first winter, but Redmi Note 3 Pro doesn't really care about temperature outside. It works as good wherever it is.
3. Honestly I have no idea. I've heard about it too but after relase of Redmi Note 4 (Snapdragon) I'm not even sure if it's still gonna be relased. Guess we have to wait.
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I dont have a big bugget, is there a big difference in gaming or battery life between 2gb and 3gb ram ?
RootNightmareX said:
I dont have a big bugget, is there a big difference in gaming or battery life between 2gb and 3gb ram ?
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In battery life probably none, about gaming I can't tell, but I don't think that there is that much of price difference to save a little money, 3 gb would be overall better for future, but if I had to buy 2 gb version I'd probably switch instantly to some AOSP custom rom because MIUI used to eat 1,2-1,5gb ram on my 3 gb model so it would probably be a little left for gaming, and on custom roms it's mostly less than 1 gb usage for system. But by buying 3 GB u also get more storage which would probably be nice to have more games instead of wasting money for bigger SD card or something, so think about that too
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In battery life probably none, about gaming I can't tell, but I don't think that there is that much of price difference to save a little money, 3 gb would be overall better for future, but if I had to buy 2 gb version I'd probably switch instantly to some AOSP custom rom because MIUI used to eat 1,2-1,5gb ram on my 3 gb model so it would probably be a little left for gaming, and on custom roms it's mostly less than 1 gb usage for system. But by buying 3 GB u also get more storage which would probably be nice to have more games instead of wasting money for bigger SD card or something, so think about that too
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And just wondering its easy to install custom roms on it ? Or i must pay for it like HTC S OFF or something ?
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And just wondering its easy to install custom roms on it ? Or i must pay for it like HTC S OFF or something ?
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And i dont want to use MIUI i dont like it.
Are CM/AOSP roms stable enough (good battery,performance) ?
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And i dont want to use MIUI i dont like it.
Are CM/AOSP roms stable enough (good battery,performance) ?
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For unlock bootloader you have to write for a permission, it takes 1-3 days for them to respond and after unlocking it's just pretty much same as in other devices, no problems at all.
About stability, there are tons of stable MM roms and quite a lot of Nougat ones. The only bugs are from what I know flashlight working sometimes after 2nd tap or 3rd and not as good fingerprint reading if you get the goodix model, but it's still not bad, and it's probably gonna be fixed soon. Except these ROMs are stable and have pretty much same battery life as MIUI (because it's very good in terms of battery) and, I'd say, smoother than stock. Benchmark-wise custom ROMs get like 10-20k more in Antutu, plus some of ROMs add Vulkan libs so if you change build.prop you can download and play Vulkan games, they perform really well!
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For unlock bootloader you have to write for a permission, it takes 1-3 days for them to respond and after unlocking it's just pretty much same as in other devices, no problems at all.
About stability, there are tons of stable MM roms and quite a lot of Nougat ones. The only bugs are from what I know flashlight working sometimes after 2nd tap or 3rd and not as good fingerprint reading if you get the goodix model, but it's still not bad, and it's probably gonna be fixed soon. Except these ROMs are stable and have pretty much same battery life as MIUI (because it's very good in terms of battery) and, I'd say, smoother than stock. Benchmark-wise custom ROMs get like 10-20k more in Antutu, plus some of ROMs add Vulkan libs so if you change build.prop you can download and play Vulkan games, they perform really well!
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And must i pay or it is hard to unlock the bootloader? Can it be unlocked by default(when)?
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And must i pay or it is hard to unlock the bootloader? Can it be unlocked by default(when)?
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No, it's free. You just have to ask for permission in MIUI site and wait for permission rights on your account, then you simply download one program from MIUI, connect device and click unlock button, it will do it automatically. But I heard that some people are having problem with that and have to first flash MIUI gloval dev via EDL to make program work, for me I didn't have to do anything, unlocked it on version that came with me from shop.
balazs312 said:
Redmi Note 3 pro is definetly the best bang for buck, for performance and updates I'd go for 5X but that's much expensive than this device, I won't touch HTC.
In short, if you want a good phone for a decent price, go for Note 3 Pro, but if you want more performance then go for 5X, but in my opinion, kenzo has everything I need, good speed, fp sensor, and regular updates thanks to devs!
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RootNightmareX said:
Hey guys , i am about to buy a new phone and my options are: Nexus 5X, HTC M8 and Redmi Note 3 PRO.
I want to know which one has the : 1.better cpu/gpu for games
2.battery life and HEALTH over time because i want to stick with it at least 2 years.
3.which one is more future proof
I know the nexus 5x has the best support for CM which i like but the battery life is a very big downside.
And i want to know if its true that: if there is COLD WEATHER (-5/-10 degrees) outside the battery drains almost VERY fast ? FOR REDMI NOTE 3 PRO (i red this problems on a forum)
Hope you can guys help me sort it out.
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Battery is certainly very good on redmi note 3 pro and u can install android nougat also. Lineage OS, slim roms, rr are all well supported here. Its really like the best of two world a good os good performance massive battery! Dont think mich go for the redmi note 3 pro. But have no idea about quick nattery drain in chilled areas.
Go for Redmi Note 3 Kenzo.
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Battery is certainly very good on redmi note 3 pro and u can install android nougat also. Lineage OS, slim roms, rr are all well supported here. Its really like the best of two world a good os good performance massive battery! Dont think mich go for the redmi note 3 pro. But have no idea about quick nattery drain in chilled areas.
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drmuruga said:
Go for Redmi Note 3 Kenzo.
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quantesh said:
No, it's free. You just have to ask for permission in MIUI site and wait for permission rights on your account, then you simply download one program from MIUI, connect device and click unlock button, it will do it automatically. But I heard that some people are having problem with that and have to first flash MIUI gloval dev via EDL to make program work, for me I didn't have to do anything, unlocked it on version that came with me from shop.
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For gaming between REDMI NOTE 4, NEXUS 5X AND REDMI NOTE 3 PRO, i should go with REDMI 3 NOTE PRO?
RootNightmareX said:
For gaming between REDMI NOTE 4, NEXUS 5X AND REDMI NOTE 3 PRO, i should go with REDMI 3 NOTE PRO?
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Yes, Redmi Note 4 isn't as powerful as RN3Pro. Though you would get better battery life with SD625, but it would be better choice if battery was more important for you than raw power, but I'd say kenzo has big enough battery so there is pretty much no reason to buy even longer lasting phone while in my case I'm charging phone like once for 3 days with ~3h SOT usage per day.
I just bought the Redmi Note 3 Pro Special Edition and I love it. It's taking forever to unlock because of Xiaomi servers not being updated timely but I love the phone. It's fast, Battery is amazing, 4K video and HD Slow motion are killer.
quantesh said:
Yes, Redmi Note 4 isn't as powerful as RN3Pro. Though you would get better battery life with SD625, but it would be better choice if battery was more important for you than raw power, but I'd say kenzo has big enough battery so there is pretty much no reason to buy even longer lasting phone while in my case I'm charging phone like once for 3 days with ~3h SOT usage per day.
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MikeyLee said:
I just bought the Redmi Note 3 Pro Special Edition and I love it. It's taking forever to unlock because of Xiaomi servers not being updated timely but I love the phone. It's fast, Battery is amazing, 4K video and HD Slow motion are killer.
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And is the construction or display better on REDMI NOTE 4? I heard its 2.5d its there a difference ?
we got fully stable cm14.1 with volte, awesome battery backup, dual sim, IR blaster, very good display. and all at very low price. nexus is very costly man. i think three times the price of kenzo.
Guys Currently I am using SAMSUNG GALAXY S7 and planning to buy this device during this BBD for 15k.
As it's been more than a year since POCO F1 was launched, and if I will buy this phone or any other then I am gonna use it for at least 2yrs minimum.
I am very much confused, have so much questions in mind..
1) Will it go that long(2yrs)?
2) Is it worth to buy now?
3) Do you feel the need of an ultra wide lens as of now it's the current trend in market?
4) Does it show screen bleeding or ghost touches?
5) Switching from an amoled to a lcd panel will be bad experience? How is the screen quality?
6) LAST, still there is no news of POCO F2, is it good to buy F1 now or wait for another POCO device with a hope of that it will release soon?
Why I am asking these que. Because I am totally confused right now, Guys please help me out.
Yes ,Redmi K20 pro is another option but it's out of my budget even after price the will get slashed to 25k during BBD.
I'm buying it on big billion days sale this sep
poco is old but It's cutting edge competitive because of the aggressive prize cuts, and whatever phone you gonna purchase now for the 15K would be no match of snapdragon 845, it's still the second-best processor for android out there, also It have ultrafast internal memory UFS 2.1 and you can't go wrong with 6 gb of ram so it's pretty future proof, and you know for what I'm buying this in 2019 even after 1 year of its release, the camera! yes, there is 64 MP camera under this range but I've seen semple up close and I'm getting poco.
Well, the developer who made POCO F1 is retired, no much update now, only if you flash another rom...
so the best way is K20 or 9T, with them you have Snapdragon 855, poco have 845.
I have poco, and I like it and I will no buy another for at least 1 year more, until I broke it...
MIUI 11 will come later, but I don't know if MIUI will work to upgrade android from Pie to Q.
If you like flashing ROMs , testing, etc, its no problem for you.
But.....If it were you (Its me! I like having phone with best processor with lower price xD) , I was going to buy K20 or 9T pro (better that Oneplus 7 about specifications and lower price) because poco have 1 year and all what above user (Ramipro) said..
But if you don't use to play so much like...PUBG with max configs, and found the lower price, its good for daily usage ofc
Bought the POCO F1 since the date released and still don't have intent to change the phone yet. The update is lesser for now since the global beta is shut down but still quite active. I have no problem using it to play Mobile Legend China with Med-high spec. The camera itself is actually not bad, if you are not a professional camera person. For me, there are no screen bleeding nor ghost touches. For the screen well, amoled screen is always good but so I guess this is the cost here (not that I say POCO is bad, just amoled screen is gooood).
Well anyway, the spec of POCO F1 is still quite good for now so if you don't mind of old phone, go straightly buy it. Otherwise I'll just wait POCO F2 or buy newer phone.
leakcim90 said:
Well, the developer who made POCO F1 is retired, no much update now, only if you flash another rom...
so the best way is K20 or 9T, with them you have Snapdragon 855, poco have 845.
I have poco, and I like it and I will no buy another for at least 1 year more, until I broke it...
MIUI 11 will come later, but I don't know if MIUI will work to upgrade android from Pie to Q.
If you like flashing ROMs , testing, etc, its no problem for you.
But.....If it were you (Its me! I like having phone with best processor with lower price xD) , I was going to buy K20 or 9T pro (better that Oneplus 7 about specifications and lower price) because poco have 1 year and all what above user (Ramipro) said..
But if you don't use to play so much like...PUBG with max configs, and found the lower price, its good for daily usage ofc
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This was the only reason I was considering this device, as it has much better development community than one plus devices has right now.
Also you are right about K20pro, it's also the value for money for sd855 because of its a new chipset and better than oneplus 7..
well thank you bro for suggestion, I keep that circumstances in my mind while buying..
I had an F1 and sold it and got the Mi9T. I didn't like the 9T's under display fingerprint sensor (the position and speed of it; I like the tactile feel of a physical button). I sold the 9T and got a used Galaxy S9+. The battery life was terrible. I'm not sure if it was software related or if the battery was too old. However, I returned it, and I've just ordered a new F1. I plan to flash it with ResurrectionRemix or PixelExperience. It's the best phone I've owned (I've owned a lot), and I don't care if it's over a year old.
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poco is old but It's cutting edge competitive because of the aggressive prize cuts, and whatever phone you gonna purchase now for the 15K would be no match of snapdragon 845, it's still the second-best processor for android out there, also It have ultrafast internal memory UFS 2.1 and you can't go wrong with 6 gb of ram so it's pretty future proof, and you know for what I'm buying this in 2019 even after 1 year of its release, the camera! yes, there is 64 MP camera under this range but I've seen semple up close and I'm getting poco.
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Yessssss for a 15k subprice bracket it's beast.. I was confused, but now it seems like my vision got cleared b/w poco & k20 pro... :laugh:
Thanks buddy..:good:
Pumpino said:
I had an F1 and sold it and got the Mi9T. I didn't like the 9T's under display fingerprint sensor (the position and speed of it; I like the tactile feel of a physical button). I sold the 9T and got a used Galaxy S9+. The battery life was terrible. I'm not sure if it was software related or if the battery was too old. However, I returned it, and I've just ordered a new F1. I plan to flash it with ResurrectionRemix or PixelExperience. It's the best phone I've owned (I've owned a lot), and I don't care if it's over a year old.
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Wow thats a lot of experience you had with your devices...
Now I am confident about F1, I will buy that, as I will use custom roms only.. But one thing I want to ask that does it have screen bleeding issue when you had your previous F1? My friends who bought have that issue
EDIT-you don't need to answer that, I got it from Caferatte89..
Caferatte89 said:
Bought the POCO F1 since the date released and still don't have intent to change the phone yet. The update is lesser for now since the global beta is shut down but still quite active. I have no problem using it to play Mobile Legend China with Med-high spec. The camera itself is actually not bad, if you are not a professional camera person. For me, there are no screen bleeding nor ghost touches. For the screen well, amoled screen is always good but so I guess this is the cost here (not that I say POCO is bad, just amoled screen is gooood).
Well anyway, the spec of POCO F1 is still quite good for now so if you don't mind of old phone, go straightly buy it. Otherwise I'll just wait POCO F2 or buy newer phone.
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Okay, that means the screen bleeding issue was there only in the first batch when it was released.
I bought the Poco F1 after 3 months it was released and using it for a year and i am very happy with it. Never had touch problems or screen bleeding, i am a casual user, i take photos with google camera and the results are amazing, the only games i play are Vainglory and Auto Chess on 60 fps high settings and everything is buttery smooth. A friend of mine found a deal at a local store here in Romania for 190 euro which i think is a fantastic deal. The battery life is great, i usually get 4-5 h of screen on time and 2 days of usage, i think with Pixel Experience or LOS you can get better battery life but i like MIUI built in features so i am using the latest MIUI 10 with Android 9. Android 10 with MIUI 11 is planned this year. I attached some photos of my holiday so you can see how good the camera is https://drive.google.com/open?id=14g6V9zwMvkKYrV9lHB0Vu8nqdf9vWkvu
Its is a good phone but screen is not that great you gonna notice this more since you were using s7. There is ghost touch problem many people are facing it but performance is good, camera is good enough for the price battery life is great i get 8-9 hrs of screen on time regularly also development is good lots of custom ROMs stuff. So it really depends on your priorities do you really need this performance.
If not there are plenty of other phones with better screen and camera's. Phone with snapdragon 7 series will good enough
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I bought the Poco F1 after 3 months it was released and using it for a year and i am very happy with it. Never had touch problems or screen bleeding, i am a casual user, i take photos with google camera and the results are amazing, the only games i play are Vainglory and Auto Chess on 60 fps high settings and everything is buttery smooth. A friend of mine found a deal at a local store here in Romania for 190 euro which i think is a fantastic deal. The battery life is great, i usually get 4-5 h of screen on time and 2 days of usage, i think with Pixel Experience or LOS you can get better battery life but i like MIUI built in features so i am using the latest MIUI 10 with Android 9. Android 10 with MIUI 11 is planned this year. I attached some photos of my holiday so you can see how good the camera is https://drive.google.com/open?id=14g6V9zwMvkKYrV9lHB0Vu8nqdf9vWkvu
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Daammmnnnnnn all those clicks were soo good, that it was like clicked from a high end phone. Gcam really did the great job in preserving details in the clicks when compared to stock....Well that's a peace of mind about camera department....
But still one thing I wanna ask ,do you feel the need of an ultra wide lens?
prakharayush31 said:
Daammmnnnnnn all those clicks were soo good, that it was like clicked from a high end phone. Gcam really did the great job in preserving details in the clicks when compared to stock....Well that's a peace of mind about camera department....
But still one thing I wanna ask ,do you feel the need of an ultra wide lens?
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The camera has a wider lens than the competition, i compared it to Mate 20 Pro main camera and Poco camera is wider. Also the difference between the 2 phones are not that big, Poco with GCam is almost the same as the Mate even in night mode. I impressed allot of people with the photos i took, most of the people thought it was a high end smartphone like iPhone, Samsung, Huawei.
Sky88 said:
Its is a good phone but screen is not that great you gonna notice this more since you were using s7. There is ghost touch problem many people are facing it but performance is good, camera is good enough for the price battery life is great i get 8-9 hrs of screen on time regularly also development is good lots of custom ROMs stuff. So it really depends on your priorities do you really need this performance.
If not there are plenty of other phones with better screen and camera's. Phone with snapdragon 7 series will good enough
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Actually I was considering this phone because of highly active development community only, it has lots of custom roms, tweaks, mods etc etc...
I was only confused because last time I bought brand new S7 ,it was one & half yr already old after the launch. In 2017 at that time it doesn't really bothered me because change of trend in smartphone market was not that really fast as of now, but still after some time(5mnths) I felt, at least I should gone for a device which has highly active development because S7 always had a problem either custom rom is not compatible with gcam or if it's compatible then quality of the photo is f**ked up.
But now days smartphone trends has paced up so fast that even after 6months it seems like you are out of the time.
Yaa I know, once you are with the device with such a support of development you are never gonna worry about this thing.
Well the main thing is that, Xiaomi has never spoken a word about Poco, that it is dead even after Jai Mani(head of product) has left the POCO brand.
It's the main point of my confusion, if I buy today F1 and company launches another POCO, then I would regret that I should wait at that time. But if Poco lineup is dead and I bought some other device,then again I would have regret that I left F1, which already has so much development.....
Another thing also confuse me, K20pro is just the appropriate upgrade and a successor to F1, seems like if another poco was to be launched, it was this K20pro. Then I should go for k20pro, but on k20pro I don't like that in-display fingerprint & motorised camera...
This whole sh*t thoughts has put me in a great confusion right now... should I consider F1 or not?
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The camera has a wider lens than the competition, i compared it to Mate 20 Pro main camera and Poco camera is wider. Also the difference between the 2 phones are not that big, Poco with GCam is almost the same as the Mate even in night mode. I impressed allot of people with the photos i took, most of the people thought it was a high end smartphone like iPhone, Samsung, Huawei.
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Thanks a lot petraru1, for giving such details and clearing the confusions about the camera on F1..
prakharayush31 said:
Actually I was considering this phone because of highly active development community only, it has lots of custom roms, tweaks, mods etc etc...
I was only confused because last time I bought brand new S7 ,it was one & half yr already old after the launch. In 2017 at that time it doesn't really bothered me because change of trend in smartphone market was not that really fast as of now, but still after some time(5mnths) I felt, at least I should gone for a device which has highly active development because S7 always had a problem either custom rom is not compatible with gcam or if it's compatible then quality of the photo is f**ked up.
But now days smartphone trends has paced up so fast that even after 6months it seems like you are out of the time.
Yaa I know, once you are with the device with such a support of development you are never gonna worry about this thing.
Well the main thing is that, Xiaomi has never spoken a word about Poco, that it is dead even after Jai Mani(head of product) has left the POCO brand.
It's the main point of my confusion, if I buy today F1 and company launches another POCO, then I would regret that I should wait at that time. But if Poco lineup is dead and I bought some other device,then again I would have regret that I left F1, which already has so much development.....
Another thing also confuse me, K20pro is just the appropriate upgrade and a successor to F1, seems like if another poco was to be launched, it was this K20pro. Then I should go for k20pro, but on k20pro I don't like that in-display fingerprint & motorised camera...
This whole sh*t thoughts has put me in a great confusion right now... should I consider F1 or not?
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If you have budget around 15k i would suggest just go for it. There is no competition for this price range. I dont there will be poco f2 at this point I think they killed poco for k series. This phone has really good development as there are already Android Q ROMs available at this moment.
I have my Poco for almost one year and I can say that is really good for me.
- Battery is decent to great but it charges from 0 to 100% in almost 2h (I'm ok with that though);
- camera, as it was said, with GCAM, takes nice shots;
- it is planned to get Android 10 with MIUI 11 as well and I think that the community will support it afterwards;
- I really like the face unlock function with IR, works perfect almost every time (in strong light I encountered some delays);
- Fingerprint sensor is really fast and a good location, but somehow, because I got used to the face unlock, I barely use it;
- no overheating;
- I'm using as well MIUI 10 (with franko kernel) cause I like more the face unlock process on it, also the full screen navigation gestures;
- My device has the screen bleeding issue in the bottom side (I got used to it immediately) and had touchscreen issues but got better through the updates (I think it still lags behind other phones, usually in fast scrolling);
- It would've been great to have NFC for mobile payments;
- the design it's quite old with big notch and big chin;
If you mean that you will find it for 15k INR, I think it's worth it
What about ghost touch in Indian version of poco f1
prakharayush31 said:
Yessssss for a 15k subprice bracket it's beast.. I was confused, but now it seems like my vision got cleared b/w poco & k20 pro... :laugh:
Thanks buddy..:good:
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Just buy POCO or give ₹2K extra and buy Asus Zenfone 5Z it's also good with premium design, HiRes earphones in the box. I am buying POCO F1 in the sale from Amazon. If you're buying POCO F1 then buy it from Amazon, because it is ₹1K cheaper in Amazon. ₹15K for 6+128
Sky88 said:
If you have budget around 15k i would suggest just go for it. There is no competition for this price range. I dont there will be poco f2 at this point I think they killed poco for k series. This phone has really good development as there are already Android Q ROMs available at this moment.
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I am convinced now & gonna get poco F1 on this sale for an exchange of 6k, the price would effectively become 10k approx. , I think it's great deal... sd845 for 10k..
I'm new to OnePlus and the 11R looks promising with those specs and design. I want to know if it is good with all the user experience and software wise.
No one replied but I had a discussion with my friend who is a tech and it seems the phone is good for that price range so I bought the phone!
Yes, OnePlus 11R is great for the price. If you're chasing synthetic numbers (Geekbench scores/Antutu scores, get iQOO phones instead). The real world performance of the phone is phenomenal. No issues at all. Even gaming (around an hour of Genshin, stable 58-60 fps on highest settings). The phone does heat up a fair bit though, but no stutters that I noticed.
Camera is 8/10. Screen is 9/10. Battery 8.5/10. Sound 8.5/10. No lags/stutters at all. Software is like 7/10. You might run into an age-old issue with oneplus devices with 5GHz networks that is fixed when you disable accidental touch prevention.
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Yes, OnePlus 11R is great for the price. If you're chasing synthetic numbers (Geekbench scores/Antutu scores, get iQOO phones instead). The real world performance of the phone is phenomenal. No issues at all. Even gaming (around an hour of Genshin, stable 58-60 fps on highest settings). The phone does heat up a fair bit though, but no stutters that I noticed.
Camera is 8/10. Screen is 9/10. Battery 8.5/10. Sound 8.5/10. No lags/stutters at all. Software is like 7/10. You might run into an age-old issue with oneplus devices with 5GHz networks that is fixed when you disable accidental touch prevention.
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Thank you for the detailed review, I love the phone it is really great! As you said there may be a software issue with OnePlus but on this phone, it is smooth without any issues!
Pradeep Samgwan said:
Thank you for the detailed review, I love the phone it is really great! As you said there may be a software issue with OnePlus but on this phone, it is smooth without any issues!
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OnePlus has made a mess of Oxygen OS. I hope they fix it. I'm leaning towards iQOO and Vivo phones currently.
Samsung flagship will remain my primary device, atleast for the foreseeable future.
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OnePlus has made a mess of Oxygen OS. I hope they fix it. I'm leaning towards iQOO and Vivo phones currently.
Samsung flagship will remain my primary device, atleast for the foreseeable future.
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Yeah but it is good now, iQOO is also good I like their phone models but I prefer OnePlus. Samsung flagships are too expensive for me!
Pradeep Samgwan said:
Yeah but it is good now, iQOO is also good I like their phone models but I prefer OnePlus. Samsung flagships are too expensive for me!
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OnePlus makes good phones (hardware), and so do pretty much every other brand. What made OnePlus different and very special was their software, Oxygen OS. The company now has a bad team working for them ever since Carl Pei left, and the team has successfully removed the 'oxygen' from their OS, and suffocating the user experience as a result of it.
I have the OnePlus 8T and some of the things are super annoying about OOS 12 & 13. Enough to make me look for another phone. I bought the iQOO Neo 6 and the software experience is much better (although it has its own share of bugs too, but they are less annoying though). The hardware is just as capable, and cameras are good too for the price.
I hope OnePlus fixes the (super) annoying things about OOS 12 & 13.
I just got 1+ Ace 2(11R) which running ColorOS 13 (China ver). The software works pretty well. There are only a few bloatware and I got rid of it easily. The only thing annoys me is it doesn't have google services inside the OS. Although I can install Play Store and GG apps quite easily, it's still lack of basic GG syncronization for example: wifi settings, autofill id an password for apps,... Otherwise, build quality, camera, chipset, battery life,...are very good p/p. Looking forward for a stable Oxygen OS 13 for it!