Root without Unlocked Bootloader? - Moto Z Questions & Answers

Hey I was curious if anyone has tried to get root access like what the LG G3 had with its locked bootloader? I had the LG G3 and had root access and TWRP recovery with a locked bootloader. I forget what that particular process was called, but was wondering why nothing like that has come out for the locked bootloader Moto Z. This phone has been out for a few months now, and I am really surprised that there is not root for the locked Moto Z.

XperianceIT said:
Hey I was curious if anyone has tried to get root access like what the LG G3 had with its locked bootloader? I had the LG G3 and had root access and TWRP recovery with a locked bootloader. I forget what that particular process was called, but was wondering why nothing like that has come out for the locked bootloader Moto Z. This phone has been out for a few months now, and I am really surprised that there is not root for the locked Moto Z.
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+1 ...I was thinking the same...

Dirtycow
XperianceIT said:
Hey I was curious if anyone has tried to get root access like what the LG G3 had with its locked bootloader? I had the LG G3 and had root access and TWRP recovery with a locked bootloader. I forget what that particular process was called, but was wondering why nothing like that has come out for the locked bootloader Moto Z. This phone has been out for a few months now, and I am really surprised that there is not root for the locked Moto Z.
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I've been messing around with the dirtycow exploit but still I haven't gotten anything to work. I'm still trying though and I'll letchu know if anything works.

I don't think that's possible with Moto. Their development is pretty strict.

Manish54 said:
I don't think that's possible with Moto. Their development is pretty strict.
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What do you mean exactly?

Any news?

carasd said:
Any news?
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I've had no luck with dirtycow

Nope

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Is it possible to use the official unlock bootloader for H860?!

I have been surfing the web for couple of days to find a way to unlock the bootloader for LG G5 H860, but i couldnt find any thing
could any one help me with that ?
not possible. H850 EU only... as stated on the official site as well as the XDA G5 thread for bootloader unlocking.
To expand on what @autoprime said, at the moment, the only model that can have the bootloader unlocked is the H850.
autoprime said:
not possible. H850 EU only... as stated on the official site as well as the XDA G5 thread for bootloader unlocking.
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Is it "not possible" for ever or what ?
azher98 said:
Is it "not possible" for ever or what ?
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probably not YET possible. We still have to wait for someone to discover an exploit. Non-unlockable bootloader doesn't necessarily mean no root forever, there are billions of ways out there to do it, but no one has found it yet for our variant. I remember rooting my Xperia Acro S without unlocking it (even though it was possible at that time). I love the phone anyway, even without root.
any update about unlocked boot loader for h860 (dual sim)?
Thanks!
soulkeeper4 said:
any update about unlocked boot loader for h860 (dual sim)?
Thanks!
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Nope
Im also looking for h860 root or twrp
Alexgamerboy said:
Im also looking for h860 root or twrp
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And atm you won't find them.
I'm the official h860 bootloader unlock
Use me to guide your way to a new level of greatness
ExtraDan said:
I'm the official h860 bootloader unlock
Use me to guide your way to a new level of greatness
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How did you do it?
please guide to all
ExtraDan said:
I'm the official h860 bootloader unlock
Use me to guide your way to a new level of greatness
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Hi how did you do it?
Can you give us your method please?
Thank you
Guys I dont really have the unlocked bootloader method, I was joking about being thy unlocked bootloader, as like uh, a messiah.
ExtraDan said:
Guys I dont really have the unlocked bootloader method, I was joking about being thy unlocked bootloader, as like uh, a messiah.
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Not funny.....
ItBankRock said:
probably not YET possible. We still have to wait for someone to discover an exploit. Non-unlockable bootloader doesn't necessarily mean no root forever, there are billions of ways out there to do it, but no one has found it yet for our variant. I remember rooting my Xperia Acro S without unlocking it (even though it was possible at that time). I love the phone anyway, even without root.
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I've graduated to the G5 from the G3, the bootloader for which was locked down tight by LG. The geniuses working on the G3 developed an exploit called Bump! that let users flash ROMs on the G3 despite its locked bootloader. It would be nice if something equivalent could be developed for the G5.

V20 just got boot loader unlock, does this help us with locked G5's?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-recowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594
I have the Canadian G5, is there anyway this can translate to us getting root?
jasamaha8 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/h918-recowvery-unlock-v20-root-shell-t3490594
I have the Canadian G5, is there anyway this can translate to us getting root?
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Nope.
This exploit only works for a device with an unlocked bootloader.
We cant even access fastboot let alone unlock the bootloader if we could.
Trust me, I also have the Canadian variant and am hoping for some sort of root exploit.
JF-GINO said:
Nope.
This exploit only works for a device with an unlocked bootloader.
We cant even access fastboot let alone unlock the bootloader if we could.
Trust me, I also have the Canadian variant and am hoping for some sort of root exploit.
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Are not LG G5 EU versions unlocked?
yken said:
Are not LG G5 EU versions unlocked?
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Yes. But it still wont help exploiting other variants
Lukijs said:
Yes. But it still wont help exploiting other variants
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I have 850TR which has locked bootloader. Can i use V20' root?
yken said:
I have 850TR which has locked bootloader. Can i use V20' root?
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I doubt lol.

[Question] Unlocked Bootloader

Does an unlocked bootloader lend itself to rooting your phone?
Also, is it possible to root with just ADB and SuperSU?
ChernobylBloodwolf said:
Does an unlocked bootloader lend itself to rooting your phone?
Also, is it possible to root with just ADB and SuperSU?
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Depends on what phone you have, and what has been developed for it, but, for the most part, yes, unlocking the bootloader will at least enable you to root easily, and more.
Thanks for your answer!
Just to get it out there it's a Straight Talk ZTE Majesty Pro [Z799VL] and runs Android Marshmallow. I believe it was released back in March, so not much has been (or, probably, will be) done with it. Still, your answer gives me some hope.

[Q] Non unlockable bootloader

Hello, I have a tablet with a non unlockable bootloader. I make a search but I don't see a way to convert it to a unlockable bootloader. There isn't a way to make it unlockable yet?
Thanks in advance!
soyelrafa said:
Hello, I have a tablet with a non unlockable bootloader. I make a search but I don't see a way to convert it to a unlockable bootloader. There isn't a way to make it unlockable yet?
Thanks in advance!
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Hello!
Some operator devices have non-unlockable bootloader. There is no way to unlock it at all.
Rootk1t said:
Hello!
Some operator devices have non-unlockable bootloader. There is no way to unlock it at all.
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well, thanks for your answer!
How is that even possible that a device is NON-unlockable? Excuse my ignorance, it is my first time trying to install a custom ROM on an android device. I have this Sony Xperia Z tablet and after a whole afternoon trying to understand how to install lineageOS on it I hit the hard wall. My device is NON-unlockable by default. What a pile of ****!!!
I'm stuck with this Sony bloatware forever!! God forsaken!
Everybody sure there are no way around this???
Glenn_Danzig said:
How is that even possible that a device is unlockable? Excuse my ignorance, it is my first time trying to install a custom ROM on an android device. I have this Sony Xperia Z tablet and after a whole afternoon trying to understand how to install lineageOS on it I hit the hard wall. My device is unlockable by default. What a pile of ****!!!
I'm stuck with this Sony bloatware forever!! God forsaken!
Everybody sure there are no way around this???
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Do you mean non-unlockable? Unlockable means you can unlock the bootloader, which is required for installing LineageOS.
r3pwn said:
Do you mean non-unlockable? Unlockable means you can unlock the bootloader, which is required for installing LineageOS.
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That was an error induced by rage and the double negative of "non-un-lockable" that confused my pissed mind even more.

Root and Bootloader Unlock

I have the unlocked version of this phone. I don't see anything about root or unlocking the bootloader? Really all I want is root so I can run Network Signal Guru...
Good morning,
unfortunatly I checked yesterday and wrote also to the dev... it is still not available from Official LG Web site.
sprke said:
I have the unlocked version of this phone. I don't see anything about root or unlocking the bootloader? Really all I want is root so I can run Network Signal Guru...
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Unlocked versions is about the carrier is unlocked meaning it doesn't have a carrier/plan locked with it. It doesn't mean it have an unlocked bootloader. If you really want a unlocked bootloader phone in 2020, get OnePlus or Xiaomi, they are more dev friendly.
Also, with LG's history of supporting developers, this will not likely to get unlocked bootloaders later.
TipzTeam said:
Unlocked versions is about the carrier is unlocked meaning it doesn't have a carrier/plan locked with it. It doesn't mean it have an unlocked bootloader. If you really want a unlocked bootloader phone in 2020, get OnePlus or Xiaomi, they are more dev friendly.
Also, with LG's history of supporting developers, this will not likely to get unlocked bootloaders later.
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I think Motorola is dev friendly too. My friend say they give everything to root her phones. ??
I don't think someone will find a way to root the LG phones after the V30 model. My old phone before my new G8x was the V30 and it was complex to root, so I don't know for the most recent models ??*
I downloaded Treble info from play store and this is what I get;
AxelR11 said:
I think Motorola is dev friendly too. My friend say they give everything to root her phones. ?
I don't think someone will find a way to root the LG phones after the V30 model. My old phone before my new G8x was the V30 and it was complex to root, so I don't know for the most recent models ??*
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Yea Moto is also great for dev support
bryanpen said:
I downloaded Treble info from play store and this is what I get;
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Curious then.. ?
bryanpen said:
I downloaded Treble info from play store and this is what I get;
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This doesn't mean it is rooted. It is probably used for LG to do Treble thing.
TipzTeam said:
This doesn't mean it is rooted. It is probably used for LG to do Treble thing.
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I know but it shows that systemless root could be used and GSI roms could be used if twrp and root can be achieved.
bryanpen said:
I know but it shows that systemless root could be used and GSI roms could be used if twrp and root can be achieved.
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Yea, you are right. But you guys won't get unlcoks and root anyway because you know LG's history. But it is a possibility that LG might allow that 1-2 years later.
Can we unlock the bootloader on the G8x with this method?
https://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev
It seem that this tutorial from LG work with the LG G7. But, I wonder if it work on the most recent model.
sprke said:
I have the unlocked version of this phone. I don't see anything about root or unlocking the bootloader? Really all I want is root so I can run Network Signal Guru...
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You don't need network signal guru. There's some secret code that you can get from a simple google search to get into the secret field test menu. It gives all the network related info and let's you lock on to specific 4g bands as well.
LG supports G850EMW for G8X as well as V50s. I already received unlock.bin.
A bigger problem is extracting boot.img from the stock ROM. The latest LG KDZ Extract tool is from 2014 and doesn't handle the new DZ format.
Using the 'KSZ extractor for new format KDZs' by runningnak3d I could extract boot.img from a G850EMW20a ROM (Android 10). This will allow systemless root with Magisk.
Dec 15: rooted.

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