why not AOSPA - Honor 5X Questions & Answers

hello mates,
i am a big fan of aospa aka paranoid android roms,
so sad that it isnt available for kiwi yet,
i dont know y, is there some limitations with our device? or if the devs havent tried it yet??
though im not bad at coding, i have zero experience on building roms, i dont even know how to..
if not, iam requesting any dev to make a port or please build one for our device, it will be the best..:good::fingers-crossed:

thilak devraj said:
hello mates,
i am a big fan of aospa aka paranoid android roms,
so sad that it isnt available for kiwi yet,
i dont know y, is there some limitations with our device? or if the devs havent tried it yet??
though im not bad at coding, i have zero experience on building roms, i dont even know how to..
if not, iam requesting any dev to make a port or please build one for our device, it will be the best..:good::fingers-crossed:
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Wrong thread. But @mumith3 is on it.
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I understand the question as to why it hasn't been done yet, but requesting that somebody else takes on the task of building it just because YOU want it done but dont want to learn how to port it is quite unnecessary. I hope I'm not sounding like a dck telling you this. Not my intention.

talksickisil said:
I understand the question as to why it hasn't been done yet, but requesting that somebody else takes on the task of building it just because YOU want it done but dont want to learn how to port it is quite unnecessary. I hope I'm not sounding like a dck telling you this. Not my intention.
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i understand your intention, but im not ordering anything here, i just wanted to know the reason, y it hasnt built yet, and no its not just because I want it, i just requested someone to build it..and if someone does, its not only me whosw gonna download the rom, everyone would love PA, thats the most faourite rom of alot of ppl, including me,
i just heard devs saying its not any easy task to build one, because theres some complexity,
so i thought may be by creating this thread, devs will discuss the problems and they can come up with the build together...
and nope bro, you didnt sound like dck .. i too hope i didnt sound like one,:good:

adriansticoid said:
Wrong thread. But @mumith3 is on it.
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yes i came to know that after creating this thread, :fingers-crossed:

thilak devraj said:
hello mates,
i am a big fan of aospa aka paranoid android roms,
so sad that it isnt available for kiwi yet,
i dont know y, is there some limitations with our device? or if the devs havent tried it yet??
though im not bad at coding, i have zero experience on building roms, i dont even know how to..
if not, iam requesting any dev to make a port or please build one for our device, it will be the best..:good::fingers-crossed:
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Wrong thread. But @mumith3 is on it.
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Hi mates,
I tried to work on AOSPA & Screw'd AOSP, Both are awesome IMO. But sadly they are purely based on AOSP, & for AOSP, source does lack some parts such as framework_av & such & pretty weird vendor tree formatting As my master @yuweng warned me & bro @gopinaidu77 shared his experiences of his trials, I found it tricky even only looking at the sources
Thus I'll be kinda dropping them for now, leave them as side projects on which I hope I will keep tinkering ( & bothering master yuweng & bro gopi when i'm stuck ) whenever I get time.
In the mean time, I'm taking little break, My job is giving me a hard time & semester finals will be ongoing from tomorrow, :crying:
I hope cm14.1 comes within January :fingers-crossed:
So we can work on more sweet treats
p.s. pray for me mates, I suck at marketing related subjects :crying:

mumith3 said:
Hi mates,
I tried to work on AOSPA & Screw'd AOSP, Both are awesome IMO. But sadly they are purely based on AOSP, & for AOSP, source does lack some parts such as framework_av & such & pretty weird vendor tree formatting As my master @yuweng warned me & bro @gopinaidu77 shared his experiences of his trials, I found it tricky even only looking at the sources
Thus I'll be kinda dropping them for now, leave them as side projects on which I hope I will keep tinkering ( & bothering master yuweng & bro gopi when i'm stuck ) whenever I get time.
In the mean time, I'm taking little break, My job is giving me a hard time & semester finals will be ongoing from tomorrow, :crying:
I hope cm14.1 comes within January :fingers-crossed:
So we can work on more sweet treats
p.s. pray for me mates, I suck at marketing related subjects :crying:
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No problem mate , I will keep ur threads upto date in my free times:fingers-crossed:

mumith3 said:
Hi mates,
I tried to work on AOSPA & Screw'd AOSP, Both are awesome IMO. But sadly they are purely based on AOSP, & for AOSP, source does lack some parts such as framework_av & such & pretty weird vendor tree formatting As my master @yuweng warned me & bro @gopinaidu77 shared his experiences of his trials, I found it tricky even only looking at the sources
Thus I'll be kinda dropping them for now, leave them as side projects on which I hope I will keep tinkering ( & bothering master yuweng & bro gopi when i'm stuck ) whenever I get time.
In the mean time, I'm taking little break, My job is giving me a hard time & semester finals will be ongoing from tomorrow, :crying:
I hope cm14.1 comes within January :fingers-crossed:
So we can work on more sweet treats
p.s. pray for me mates, I suck at marketing related subjects :crying:
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first things first, all the best do your exams well..:good:

gopinaidu77 said:
No problem mate , I will keep ur threads upto date in my free times:fingers-crossed:
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Bro if someone was interested in maintainig/building rom for 5x without coding knowledge, where do you suggest should one start?? and what do you think are the basic requirements at the beginner level??? I know it is unrelated to title of the thread but as brother @thilak devraj suggested his intention was to get the AOSPA project discussed, and i am a fellow enthusiast and want to start somewhere in exploring this project and enriching myself with the knowledge, because as far as i understand, you have helped @mumith3 with his projects, which are rock solid and super smooth, so can you point me in the correct direction, if its not too much trouble??

MRK804804 said:
Bro if someone was interested in maintainig/building rom for 5x without coding knowledge, where do you suggest should one start?? and what do you think are the basic requirements at the beginner level??? I know it is unrelated to title of the thread but as brother @thilak devraj suggested his intention was to get the AOSPA project discussed, and i am a fellow enthusiast and want to start somewhere in exploring this project and enriching myself with the knowledge, because as far as i understand, you have helped @mumith3 with his projects, which are rock solid and super smooth, so can you point me in the correct direction, if its not too much trouble??
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@mumith3 suggested someone to start with xda university, i think you should also start from there..

MRK804804 said:
Bro if someone was interested in maintainig/building rom for 5x without coding knowledge, where do you suggest should one start?? and what do you think are the basic requirements at the beginner level??? I know it is unrelated to title of the thread but as brother @thilak devraj suggested his intention was to get the AOSPA project discussed, and i am a fellow enthusiast and want to start somewhere in exploring this project and enriching myself with the knowledge, because as far as i understand, you have helped @mumith3 with his projects, which are rock solid and super smooth, so can you point me in the correct direction, if its not too much trouble??
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Mate,
First clear your conceptions of build environment, manifests & use of gits. You'll find plenty explanations in google & xda uni.
then start with setting up build machine( I'll suggest a decent config with bbqlinux installed)
then start with building CM as there is a official step by step guide in CM website for kiwi AKA Honor 5X.
when you're familiar with all... move to other roms.
we'll be always glad to help
happy learning!

mumith3 said:
Mate,
First clear your conceptions of build environment, manifests & use of gits. You'll find plenty explanations in google & xda uni.
then start with setting up build machine( I'll suggest a decent config with bbqlinux installed)
then start with building CM as there is a official step by step guide in CM website for kiwi AKA Honor 5X.
when you're familiar with all... move to other roms.
we'll be always glad to help
happy learning!
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I am at xda university at present and man these guys are thorough!! They have made it extremely simple even for a beginner like me, i know it's a tough ask but i do want to learn in the most sincerest way possible, hope everything goes according to plan, and even if it doesn't, i believe in the community and help it extends to supernoobs like myself, let's see where it takes me.:fingers-crossed:

well you can be able to make AOSPA on nougat now most probably. Because Alex and other developers has stopped working on Marshmallow. So the team can help in get away with the building errors. But since we are still now marshmallow they won't going to help. or Maybe they will. Can't say. At paranoid things these moves slowly moving to nougat. Well since none of the member has device in team. So we are not officially supported. The biggest reason why HONOR 5x never make it to other developers because of Kenzo was launched by Xiaomi. Far better in specifications. But we are still hopeful. Exodus will halting development too for a while. Issues with developers. The last Vanir is also has issues. Maintaining so many devices is a heck of trouble for few developers. Since Vanir is based on CM so we are far away from them.
Pure Code Aurora Caf was never possible until some developer with coding skills come. You need to code and make everything from scratch. In that case things will not coming from even CM. You have device specific device trees. It is huge pain in ass. Now as Paranoid is going to pure AOSP if i remember right. They going to use few things like cm device trees just. Else like exodus paranoid is known for writing their own apps and stuff...

mumith3 said:
Hi mates,
I tried to work on AOSPA & Screw'd AOSP, Both are awesome IMO. But sadly they are purely based on AOSP, & for AOSP, source does lack some parts such as framework_av & such & pretty weird vendor tree formatting As my master @yuweng warned me & bro @gopinaidu77 shared his experiences of his trials, I found it tricky even only looking at the sources
Thus I'll be kinda dropping them for now, leave them as side projects on which I hope I will keep tinkering ( & bothering master yuweng & bro gopi when i'm stuck ) whenever I get time.
In the mean time, I'm taking little break, My job is giving me a hard time & semester finals will be ongoing from tomorrow, :crying:
I hope cm14.1 comes within January :fingers-crossed:
So we can work on more sweet treats
p.s. pray for me mates, I suck at marketing related subjects :crying:
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No worries man. I wish you all the best in your job and in your exams.
Sent from my honor 5X using XDA Labs

I'm really digging the dev community here. Shouts out to crpalmer jsbeyond gopi mumith and everybody else im forgetting. And just remember, be always grateful for their work. We could have ended up with no development if we chose a different phone. For example my last phone the HTC desire 626s. Go find the desire 626 forum on XDA to see what I mean. Development just doesn't always happen. Which is why when I see somebody request certain ROMs it irks me a little

yes , i feel lucky to have those devs, but im sad we alredy lost many of them..

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[L7 II] CM11 for L7 II - Kickstart (Team LAG)

Hi all,
The purpose of this thread is to coordinate our efforts trying to build CM11 for LG L7 II series.
Here we will share ideas, distribute our tasks and basically do whatever we can to have CM11 running as fast and as reliably as possible on our beloved device.
Next thing I believe should be a plan on how to kick off this project. This Wiki page (thanks @kalel29) is probably a good start, but we need to start rolling it. Will be glad to hear any other suggestions from anyone with more experience lifting up such a task.
Edit:
ROMs are ready. Here are the official threads for CM11 L7 II devices (by weritos):
CM11 for L7 II single SIM (p710/p712/p713/p714)
CM11 for L7 II dual SIM (p715/p716)
What all "wannabe-developers" must set up is definitely a Linux workbench, like it is just written in THIS thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2302780
This is an all-round starter for everyone I think, also, let me share my personal experience with you - just be very-very careful when installing Linux next to Windows - I losed all my personal data because of some partition details gone wrong.
An other point, is that what we all have seen lately, and sadly: without sharing the sources of our work, the project will be closed by XDA admins, that's what we've seen with the custom kernel of airodsas, and the CM10 of weritos. So whatever we've done, we must synchronize that onto the team's GitHub.
That's all what should be done in the first place, I think. Also, I'd like to offer my graphic skills to make an elegant look to the team, I mean banners, logo, and some other fancy stuff
Maybe this serves you
https://github.com/TeamHackLG/android_device_lge_p710
https://github.com/SinxOner/android_kernel_lge_p710
igna.98 said:
Maybe this serves you
https://github.com/TeamHackLG/android_device_lge_p710
https://github.com/SinxOner/android_kernel_lge_p710
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Thanks. This is for CM10.2. However, I guess that the right way to go is to merge the Vendor/HW dependent stuff from official LG KK into CM11.
shiftyHungary said:
What all "wannabe-developers" must set up is definitely a Linux workbench, like it is just written in THIS thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2302780
This is an all-round starter for everyone I think, also, let me share my personal experience with you - just be very-very careful when installing Linux next to Windows - I losed all my personal data because of some partition details gone wrong.
An other point, is that what we all have seen lately, and sadly: without sharing the sources of our work, the project will be closed by XDA admins, that's what we've seen with the custom kernel of airodsas, and the CM10 of weritos. So whatever we've done, we must synchronize that onto the team's GitHub.
That's all what should be done in the first place, I think. Also, I'd like to offer my graphic skills to make an elegant look to the team, I mean banners, logo, and some other fancy stuff
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Thanks for the useful link. Was going to setup an additional PC with Ubuntu at home next week. Now there are few additional step to perform there.
Ok then,i think that we need to its sync the team in order to work better,by putting schedules or something,also time zones will be important
Developer CM 11
Digdis said:
Hi!! I interested to contribute for this Rom. I've got two years in the world of Android with the configure Build.prop and custimize the clock and run scripts
I waiting for start this project
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Alright then!
So first, we need to see who's on our team, and what each one can contribute.
We need to form the strategy of how to attack this task.
We should allow a few days (I suggest until Monday-Tuesday) for people to setup their development environment (shifty's link is a good starting point). Everyone here also need to setup a github account, as the CM sources are on github.
As for me: I don't have experience building ROMs or developing Android apps, but I do have experience in Linux development (including scripting and a bit of workstation administration). Ready to help any way I can. TZ is GMT+2.
Time zone over here is -6 GMT
Updating repo device....
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I would like to work for this project. I had some knowledge about building roms. And I already got a pc with Linux. So now anyone of us should lead this project and have to assist others and allocate the task for the members. And importantly everyone should update status everyday and make this thread active.
My Time zone IND +5:30GMT
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Time zone
Willing to help, Time Zone GMT +4
Has linux, Ubuntu 14.04
Hi =)
Well, good luck with the build. :laugh:
weritos said:
Hi =)
Well, good luck with the build. :laugh:
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Then share this ROM with us.
Will there be a version for the P713 ?
weritos said:
Hi =)
Well, good luck with the build. :laugh:
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My Cyrillic alphabeth reading ain't the best, but I believe it shows a CM11 for L7 II here, which is the purpose of this whole thread. Would you mind sharing it with the people here?
He won't,he will ask for money,it's sad tho becaude he has talent.
weritos said:
Hi =)
Well, good luck with the build. :laugh:
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seriously, with knowledge you have, why you no share or help others to build? that's the purpose of this forum (community) exist, right?
weritos said:
Hi =)
Well, good luck with the build. :laugh:
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Did you really have to rub it in our noses man?
CrashBandicootX said:
Did you really have to rub it in our noses man?
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Of course he had to, that was his intention with the pic, and the CM10 also. Let's forget this whole thing, and focus on our project.

[Discussion] State of the Grand 2 - What we were and what are we now

A little about myself and the ethos I have to talk
I am Waseem Alkurdi, developer and owner of a Grand 2 since July 2014, and one of the earliest contributors to the community (Does anybody remember The Ultimate S5 Mod or MicroKat?).
I have a little mission to complete before taking my Grand 2 out of active service as a daily driver (NOT GOING TO DESERT IT THOUGH, EVER) which is building every next Android version from AOSP/CM (Lineage) sources (starting from Android O until the last version of Android that boots on 1.5 GB of RAM) and porting something significant to this beaut (I'm talking about OEM ROMs, but tips are welcome!)
What the Grand 2 was one day
The Grand 2 was the utopia of an Android device community turned real.
The community was rolling out ROM after ROM, mod after mod, and everybody was excited ...
First, @balliboxer rolled out the first TouchWiz (Android 4.3-based) rooted ROM for the device, and that was May 2014 if I remember. It was the first victory for the community, as everybody thought that the device could never see root because of the Qualcomm SecureBoot technology, which apparently got everybody thinking about a locked bootloader, which was not the case. (If anybody has a Grand 2 on 4.3, boot into Download Mode and you'll see what I mean: QUALCOMM SECUREBOOT: ENABLED in blue letters).
Then came the official KitKat update: Of the most important changes was that the dreaded QUALCOMM SECUREBOOT:ENABLED line was replaced with a red UDC:START in red letters). Does that mean that technology was disabled? Only God knows.
With the KitKat update came GenNxt, another ROM by @balliboxer, and one of my first projects, the Ultimate S5 Mod. The mod exploited the S5 code hidden under the stock ROM to "transform" the device into an S5 look-alike.
But my mod has lost the limelight when @balliboxer and @aapav01 came out with the S5 mini port ROM. The ROM was not a lookalike, it was the real deal, and was a hit to Samsung itself and their corporate policy of not updating the UI design of older devices.
Then came the 4.4.4 port from the S3 Neo, another device with the same SoC as the Grand 2. It hadn't received much attention though, as the S5 mini port took it all.
At about the same time, I released MicroKat, a barebones ROM based on stock. It has received some attention from people whom I call "purists", those who like everything pure without the garbage that sticks to stuff at times, and from people who wanted the most performance of their devices.
Later on, a stream of ROMs came: A bombshell of 4.4.4 CyanogenMod 11, CyanognenMod 12 by @mukulsoni, another S5 mini port, this time using Lollipop TouchWiz, and CyanogenMod 13, and later, 14, by @adityaupreti, ResurrectionRemix M by @buggatty, and some Nougat ROMs by @SoUnd001, among more. With each ROM came a surprise.
Where the Grand 2 stands today
We, folks, have passed the climax of the story of our Grand 2. Way long ago, to be honest. We have hit the climax in those ol' times when the team of contributors ported ROM after ROM, when Android Lollipop from source was nothing to this community, and when the Lollipop port from the S5 Mini was being downloaded like nothing the Internet has ever seen
Folks, this device is officially dead.
But is the Snapdragon 400 SoC archaically old?
Heck, no!
Is 1.5 GB of RAM dead?
Heck, no!
What killed the Grand 2 is nothing but the childish bickering of the community.
Yep, the whole community, myself included.
When the same generous developers of our community and all of XDA turn into selfish, egoistic bullies, because of their impatience with some kids, yeah, kids, babies, children who have not been taught respect by their families, who are equally rude, that's what we get, the current state of the Grand 2.
I am not referring to one incident, but to a collective of incidents.
What is supposed to happen
Quite nothing could be done.
Well, quite nothing could be done to a community which has brought itself down.
Speaking for myself, I will aim at my goals, listed above, no matter what. But for other developers, all of which are of higher order than I am, please give this community a second chance.
I have a word for them (especially @adityaupret i
The Grand 2 community is at risk of collapsing prematurely. One hand cannot clap, as we Arabs say. However, all of our hands can work together for the prosperity of the community. Do you want to save this community?
Reserved 1
Reserved
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Another one!
SoUnd001 is still active as he said earlier(but he deleted his recent TW MM port so i rather doubt it), i am trying to make MIUI 8. Another friend of mine is working on FlymeOS.
Other than that there are no projects/devs active. If i succeed with MIUI & my friend also succeed with FlymeOS then we will work on more projects and try to keep the developement alive.
Are you also working on any project???
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@WaseemAlkurdi bro Glad to see you after long Time.... i dont know whether u remember me or not but i remember u from the effort u took for CM11....
We still expecting u to return to development..... Aditya Upreti will be always be helpful for our Device as my knowledge is concerned...(may be its false) .....
Once upon a time balliboxer ruled Grand 2 and then aapav ruled and then aditya ruled and now its dethroned... its set as free for someone whom we r waiting to enthrone to rule Grand 2 Developments back....
VigneshS007 said:
@WaseemAlkurdi bro Glad to see you after long Time.... i dont know whether u remember me or not but i remember u from the effort u took for CM11....
We still expecting u to return to development..... Aditya Upreti will be always be helpful for our Device as my knowledge is concerned...(may be its false) .....
Once upon a time balliboxer ruled Grand 2 and then aapav ruled and then aditya ruled and now its dethroned... its set as free for someone whom we r waiting to enthrone to rule Grand 2 Developments back....
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First, I do remember you ... It's indeed a pleasure to hear from you after all that time ...
Well, as far as I could see, Aditya and @SoUnd001 have announced that they'll desert the Grand 2 (on the ResurrectionRemix Nougat thread), with threats of using the moderators for "policing" of the community, effectively installing (politically not technically here) themselves as absolute monarchs, waving their device trees, as if it was only them who had the intelligence and skill of learning the craft ...
But they are indeed justified and I do agree with them, as some users are indeed rude ...
Have they stepped back from their decision?
I hope they do.
Edit: RR Nougat is back online.
simranjitsingh said:
SoUnd001 is still active as he said earlier(but he deleted his recent TW MM port so i rather doubt it), i am trying to make MIUI 8. Another friend of mine is working on FlymeOS.
Other than that there are no projects/devs active. If i succeed with MIUI & my friend also succeed with FlymeOS then we will work on more projects and try to keep the developement alive.
Are you also working on any project???
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It is great to know that there's some hope left ... Wish you and your friends the best of luck!
@SoUnd001, as it seems, is out of the scene for the time being.
As for myself, I am a Grade 12 student, and I have halted almost all electronic activity until I finish my secondary education exams (like the IGCSE, but my country's flavor).
However, I intend to start building a multitude of ROMs (mostly AOSP-based) from source starting June-July 2017.
Well G2 was having some Awesome Roms and Ports !
When Aapav ported TW LL from S5 Mini then Whole G2 Development loved that ROM.....all were crazy abt it ! As Samsung left G2 to die alone !
But after some time Aapav left G2 becoz of people ! And then Aditya and Sound were left on G2....They made cool rom to make G2 Live more ! Aditya Booted first Android N Rom on G2 and TW MM on G2 ! And then Aditya and Sound both made RR N....but again people spam bug bug bug.....NO Voice...how can I use...and soo on ! Soo they both decided to left Development ! But after a While....more longer....They came back with First ALPHA Release of TW MM.....And it was srsly the Best rom for G2 as it was TW MM which Samsung would never even thought that it will be Booted ! But due to some problems the Thread was closed.....but still I can hope that Aditya and Sound will again Release TW MM if they think that It is Fully STABLE to get it Released !
G2 lived a Very long Life !
And we shld thank all the Developers for that....Just Thank them not Spam them !
Regards @bravoInc
Can anybody please tell me what "skills" I require if I'm to start with this so called "Android Development"? (building thingies from source). It'd be really helpful.
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lollipop_99 said:
Can anybody please tell me what "skills" I require if I'm to start with this so called "Android Development"? (building thingies from source). It'd be really helpful.
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Generally, you will need:
A computer running Linux, preferably Ubuntu
Knowledge on Linux (just some terminal-friendliness, no need for really deep knowledge)
Knowledge about Android; pretend to be a doctor or your ol' mechanic and carefully dissect the stock ROM or any other ROM to get that)
Lack of terminalphobia is absolutely essential, as the whole Android build process is in the terminal.
Debugging interfaces shipped with Android (logcat, dmesg, and the whole lot)
Being generally tech-savvy (not running to others for help, but learning by trial and error, knowing how to wisely use Google, and knowing how to multiboot Windows, Linux, and Mac OS is generally proof of that)
Edit: Forgot a knowledge of a) programming (recommended, not obligatory) and b) Git and source control.
Worse news guys. SoUnd001 left Grand 2 & moved on to J5 developement. He even deleted his device tree. He and aditya got some problems thats why he left
So in my opinion we must setup a device tree if developement has to be continued. @Hammerhead2502 @WaseemAlkurdi & all other people willing to join hands to keep the developement alive please do something :'(
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simranjitsingh said:
Worse news guys. SoUnd001 left Grand 2 & moved on to J5 developement. He even deleted his device tree. He and aditya got some problems thats why he left
So in my opinion we must setup a device tree if developement has to be continued. @Hammerhead2502 @WaseemAlkurdi & all other people willing to join hands to keep the developement alive please do something :'(
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For me, and once again, I will be fully dedicated as of Jun.-Jul. 2017, not a day before that.
And although what SoUnd001 did of removal of trees was rude and unethical in open-source community terms, it is totally his right as his own effort and mental work. Being his right though, does not justify the action, and again, he is not the only one with the mental ability and skill needed to start building Android.
WaseemAlkurdi said:
For me, and once again, I will be fully dedicated as of Jun.-Jul. 2017, not a day before that.
And although what SoUnd001 did of removal of trees was rude and unethical in open-source community terms, it is totally his right as his own effort and mental work. Being his right though, does not justify the action, and again, he is not the only one with the mental ability and skill needed to start building Android.
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Yes i agree he has rights to delete and all. I don't blame him. But as usual Grand 2's developement is the one to bare the consequences of aditya & SoUnd's fight.
So in my opinion the first step should be setting up a device tree.
simranjitsingh said:
Yes i agree he has rights to delete and all. I don't blame him. But as usual Grand 2's developement is the one to bare the consequences of aditya & SoUnd's fight.
So in my opinion the first step should be setting up a device tree.
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All the shiit happened becoz of Some Misunderstanding between them......That's all !
simranjitsingh said:
Yes i agree he has rights to delete and all. I don't blame him. But as usual Grand 2's developement is the one to bare the consequences of aditya & SoUnd's fight.
So in my opinion the first step should be setting up a device tree.
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Bravo Inc. said:
All the shiit happened becoz of Some Misunderstanding between them......That's all !
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You guys mean to say that there was a fight between those two? I thought they were best friends.
lollipop_99 said:
You guys mean to say that there was a fight between those two? I thought they were best friends.
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-_-
Bravo Inc. said:
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Okay. So what is that supposed to mean?
simranjitsingh said:
Worse news guys. SoUnd001 left Grand 2 & moved on to J5 developement. He even deleted his device tree. He and aditya got some problems thats why he left
So in my opinion we must setup a device tree if developement has to be continued. @[email protected] & all other people willing to join hands to keep the developement alive please do something :'(
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So development of RR N is completely stopped? It was very terrible.
rickyyohanes626 said:
So development of RR N is completely stopped? It was very terrible.
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The reality is that Nougat Trees are now Deleted !
Move on to Another Device if u want new Roms and all !

Rom development stranger way

can someone tell me why the developers have 2.3.4 rom in development, with bugs and little support ??? when it is better to devote time to a single good and seriously attended !!!!
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Same question. There are a few devs who would work on one build then abandon the project completely, and make another build of a different ROM.
Because most of that So called Development is just copy paste job. those guys don't actually develop anything by themselves. otherwise they could have fixed it, instead they wait for actual developers to fix it and just copy from them. :silly:
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Because most of that So called Development is just copy paste job. those guys don't actually develop anything by themselves. otherwise they could have fixed it, instead they wait for actual developers to fix it and just copy from them. :silly:
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[email protected] said:
can someone tell me why the developers have 2.3.4 rom in development, with bugs and little support ??? when it is better to devote time to a single good and seriously attended !!!!
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kraatus90 said:
Because most of that So called Development is just copy paste job. those guys don't actually develop anything by themselves. otherwise they could have fixed it, instead they wait for actual developers to fix it and just copy from them. :silly:
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1. You will know then answer when you try to compile one ROM (Not developing).
2. Compiling a ROM is not just a Copy & Paste work. If it's so... Do yourself.... (its just copy & paste nah..?)
So here is a answer. I'm also started Android Development just 2 weeks ago. And i compiled 4 different ROMs : Lineage, Candy, Slim, Glaze. I'm not doing it for you. But for me. I wanted to learn, no one can start from "Coding Everything from Scratch" especially legacy softwares like kernel and other things. So we start from compiling.... When we successfully compiled a ROM by facing and fixing many Errors. We move on to a new ROM, Coz New ROM will give new errors and we can learn to fix them. You may ask "Why you cant learn from Improving a rom...?" and my answer is "NO ONE IS GONNA TEACH ME HOW TO IMPROVE A ROM". Self learning needs lots of trial and error. So we building many ROMs. If you don't like that or you are a cry baby who cries for "XXXXX is not working" or "Poor XXXX". Just stick with STOCK ROM. XDA is for Learning and Not Only for SERVING YOU A BUG FREE, FULLY OPTIMIZED, FULLY FEATURED CUSTOM ROM for FREE.
Sorry.... if anything hurts anyone... I mean it.
dineshthangavel47 said:
1. You will know then answer when you try to compile one ROM (Not developing).
2. Compiling a ROM is not just a Copy & Paste work. If it's so... Do yourself.... (its just copy & paste nah..?)
So here is a answer. I'm also started Android Development just 2 weeks ago. And i compiled 4 different ROMs : Lineage, Candy, Slim, Glaze. I'm not doing it for you. But for me. I wanted to learn, no one can start from "Coding Everything from Scratch" especially legacy softwares like kernel and other things. So we start from compiling.... When we successfully compiled a ROM by facing and fixing many Errors. We move on to a new ROM, Coz New ROM will give new errors and we can learn to fix them. You may ask "Why you cant learn from Improving a rom...?" and my answer is "NO ONE IS GONNA TEACH ME HOW TO IMPROVE A ROM". Self learning needs lots of trial and error. So we building many ROMs. If you don't like that or you are a cry baby who cries for "XXXXX is not working" or "Poor XXXX". Just stick with STOCK ROM. XDA is for Learning and Not Only for SERVING YOU A BUG FREE, FULLY OPTIMIZED, FULLY FEATURED CUSTOM ROM for FREE.
Sorry.... if anything hurts anyone... I mean it.
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Why did you took it personally lol? it was just an observation. yes there are people who want to learn and they have to start somewhere. nothing wrong in that. but when you see same people doing exactly same thing for a long time and not improving upon that. it becomes clear what they are doing.
and i never ask for fix this fix that, cuz i know who are actually developing and who are just waiting for fix to be developed by someone else. so no point asking. you sound like someone who wants to learn. but that doesn't mean everyone else is like you. there are people who as i said haven't learn anything but just copy paste cherry-pick for donation money. i rarely see anyone with their own piece of code. happens even more with kernel btw.
and yes i have compiled cm13 2 year ago that's the reason why i know this, and currently using my own (copy-paste haha) kernel for both MG5/nexus 5x. although i haven't released it. nor i'll. (source is on my git if you don't believe).
Anyway, best of luck for your learning, i hope you will learn a lot and will be able to fix problems by yourself instead of waiting for others. it's a long road ahead :good:
First of all, people always mistake ROM/Kernel etc development (not talking about app and other development which are indeed) as profession of devs, they do it in their FREE time because they like it, for example you play basketball because you like it.
Secondly, when there is shortage of ROMs, you yourself would complain about it, please correct me if I'm wrong. Different ROMs have different flavours, and everyone of us likes tasting different flavours. If you're worried about why a thread owner isn't updating it, you can migrate to other one instead of complaining about it.
Some guys have enough skills to compile ROMs, but not the ability to work on source code. So they wait for fixes by those who work on source, and update their ROMs as soon as bug is fixed. Also, compiling can be the start of learning development for guys.
Although I agree with @kraatus90 on some points, there are some things that I don't. First of all, there's no point of redoing the whole kernel, vendor, tree source stuff when you can use the available code with some modifications, obviously the one who uses it have to give proper credits to the bringup dev and other contributors. Also it should be moral duty of the forker to improve the forked code, be it in small or big ways. Simply forking, compiling and PUBLISHING is certainly disheartening and condemnable.

New rom with new ui please

Why all the devs developing same UI in different Roms.
We wants some NEW UI like color os, xperia, vibe UI, flyme UI.
Please build Roms with NEW UI.
Why don't you make one for us?
Sure boss.
May we help you with something else?
shidharth solanki said:
Why all the devs developing same UI in different Roms.
We wants some NEW UI like color os, xperia, vibe UI, flyme UI.
Please build Roms with NEW UI.
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Ok boss and.for flavours what u prefer. ? Vanilaa, strawberry, chocolate, mango, banana, pineapple almond,
naik2902 said:
Ok boss and.for flavours what u prefer. ? Vanilaa, strawberry, chocolate, mango, banana, pineapple almond,
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It is not funny man.
Every one is making Roms with same UI. They know how to cook Roms thats why I am asking for NEW UI.
If i know how to cook ROM than i dont ask that.
This is not the thing to be angry.
And If you want than develop all the flavours...
shidharth solanki said:
It is not funny man.
Every one is making Roms with same UI. They know how to cook Roms thats why I am asking for NEW UI.
If i know how to cook ROM than i dont ask that.
This is not the thing to be angry.
And If you want than develop all the flavours...
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I am waiting for the company to publish the sources for NEWUI its a pretty sick rom and much better than say Miui hope the company is fast. Also i am trying to port Oxygen OS 5.0 I know it's closed source but I can try.
Androbots said:
I am waiting for the company to publish the sources for NEWUI its a pretty sick rom and much better than say Miui hope the company is fast. Also i am trying to port Oxygen OS 5.0 I know it's closed source but I can try.
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What do you mean By NEW UI...
You should try MIUI, it seems to fit your criteria...
I don't think you fully understand how is the process of "cooking" a ROM.
That ROM must be open-source (i.e.: the source code is free to use for everyone), ROMs like Samsung Experience, Oxygen OS, Vibe UI, Color OS etc. are NOT Open-Source, so how to build those ROMs if you don't have access to the source code? Of course, there is a workaround for this, that's the porting of a ROM, but it requires insane amount of work, time to fix bugs and errors. Also worth noting that the device MUST have the same (or at least very similar) hardware, you can't port ROMs for kenzo from, say, OnePlus 5. And even then, kenzo has some old blobs and drivers, so porting ROMs is even more difficult.
Hope that helps.
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I don't think you fully understand how is the process of "cooking" a ROM.
That ROM must be open-source (i.e.: the source code is free to use for everyone), ROMs like Samsung Experience, Oxygen OS, Vibe UI, Color OS etc. are NOT Open-Source, so how to build those ROMs if you don't have access to the source code? Of course, there is a workaround for this, that's the porting of a ROM, but it requires insane amount of work, time to fix bugs and errors. Also worth noting that the device MUST have the same (or at least very similar) hardware, you can't port ROMs for kenzo from, say, OnePlus 5. And even then, kenzo has some old blobs and drivers, so porting ROMs is even more difficult.
Hope that helps.
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Now i understand thanks for your time to explain all these things
U can use substratum end endless variety of launchers to customize your rom if you don't like something. Using these you can change every component of the user interface to whatever you like.
Wait for dot os oreo
Rude
I see People here on xda are hopelessly rude when someone asks these kinda requests. What's the matter guys? Ever heard of something called 'freedom of speech' . C'mon guys we're better than this. Accept one's perspective. In a way he's right. I've been feeling the same for a very long time now. Everyone just tweaking the same stock android a bit here and there and naming it like: super cool os, cosmos os, crazy fast os and stuff. Hell, some don't even give screenshots of these roms cause they know it's all the same.
No offense btw, really. I respect every dev's selfless efforts into Making all the free roms for us. But u know someone needs to think out of the box once in a while. We got so many devs here, instead of divided efforts why not try a collaborative approach and cook something which was really hard for someone to do alone. Kind of like bringing TouchWiz ui, Xperia or any other cool stuff. It's just an example not to taken too to the point of though, if these OSs are hard to port.
No offense to anyone thanx to all the hard working devs :highfive:
And guys please try to behave better :victory:
sssaini007 said:
I see People here on xda are hopelessly rude when someone asks these kinda requests. What's the matter guys? Ever heard of something called 'freedom of speech' . C'mon guys we're better than this. Accept one's perceptive. In a way he's right. I've been feeling the same for a very long time now. Everyone just tweaking the same stock android a bit here and there and naming it like: super cool os, cosmos os, crazy fast os and stuff. Hell, most don't even give screenshots of these roms cause they know it's all the same.
No offense btw, really. I respect every dev's selfless efforts into Making all the free roms for us. But u know someone needs to think out of the box once in a while. We got so many devs here, instead of divided efforts why not try a collaborative approach and cook something which was really hard for someone to do alone. Kind of like bringing TouchWiz ui, Xperia or any other cool stuff. It's just an example not to taken too to the point of though, if these OSs are hard to port.
No offense to anyone thanx to all the hard working devs :highfive:
And guys please try to behave better :victory:
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very true, they are more rude when you ask something in their telegram group.
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pks20031992 said:
very true, they are more rude when you ask something in their telegram group.
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and they must collaboratively cook a ROM , so that they can fix almost all the bugs and make ROMs better than they really are.
IMO they try to cook one ROM, fix some bugs and then move to new ROM that's very frustrating. I have tried almost every ROM out there for kenzo and all have some bugs here n there. bugs like low net speed, excessive heat compared to miui , lags etc.
Sorry for my English BTW.
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If dot is is available for your device then try it it has android p ui and if not available then wait for it

Question Voting for LineageOs

Hi,
I am wondering if there is a common way on this forum to express support for the development of a specific custom ROM for a phone? Is there a commonly accepted way to do this? (Came here to see if I could +1 a LineageOs thread for the Zenfone 9)
Rik
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haha is this a +1 of my wish to be able to give a +1 ?
Hey mate,
I was thinking to contact developers and pay them to build lineage OS and make it official!
Or the other alternative is Learn how to build it and submit it for review on LOS website..
If you have any suggestions?
cool, no idea how to go about that, but I would be happy to contribute as well. I'm sure others would be too - I am on a forum where there are multiple threads dedicated to finding a good small deGoogled phone (community.e.foundation). There must be a place where people can put up amounts for a development like this, right? Sort of like a Kickstarter for a bit of development? I will ask on the other forum too
Rik44444 said:
cool, no idea how to go about that, but I would be happy to contribute as well. I'm sure others would be too - I am on a forum where there are multiple threads dedicated to finding a good small deGoogled phone (community.e.foundation). There must be a place where people can put up amounts for a development like this, right? Sort of like a Kickstarter for a bit of development? I will ask on the other forum too
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The problem with LineageOS is that when there is no more maintainer for a specific model the phone just goes to rubbish, no more security patch... same for the other custom rom... eOS depends on LOS repositories and even if lineage stop supporting a specific device eOS will keep updating their all supported devices... That's why I really like eOS. It doesn't matter if some features are unavailable... a phone is supposed to be used for call, text. Nowadays, everything seems to be sophisticated however it doesn't need to be... I'll start asking some recognised developers if they are willing to work on a LOS build for the zf9 for some money participation... maybe start a crowdfunding of an alternative without fraud!!
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Hi bro,
Sorry got no time at the moment I ended up using a one plus 6 with eOS... I haven't started anything yet. I might need some help to organise something about crowdfunding..
Good luck and let us know if you have some ideas. Thank's

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