Hi all,
We all know that rSAP is not supported by Android
Those with carkits (VW, Audi, etc) with this profile cannot use their Android phone. A massive disappointment.
What will it take to get someone write some code to get this bluetooth profile to work on - for starters - the basic Froyo code for Nexus?
I'd be happy to kick off a project with a $150 donation or an HTC Hero (such as for testing).
Assuming we can get more people together who are interested in this (I am positive!), the big question remains - who would be able to write the required code?
MC
+1
We need rSAP
Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk
In Android issue 4402 (not permitted to post outside links, just go to the google code page and search for 4402) about the rSap profile some people are reporting that the Samsung Galaxy S (I9000) does have the rSap profile and does successfully connect to VW/Audi premium carkits.
In the Galaxy S forums are some roms (including a MCR rom for the Galaxy S) ... so there might be some possibility to port some code from the Galaxy S to the Nexus One
TFox said:
In Android issue 4402 (not permitted to post outside links, just go to the google code page and search for 4402) about the rSap profile some people are reporting that the Samsung Galaxy S (I9000) does have the rSap profile and does successfully connect to VW/Audi premium carkits.
In the Galaxy S forums are some roms (including a MCR rom for the Galaxy S) ... so there might be some possibility to port some code from the Galaxy S to the Nexus One
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Thanks, I found it and repeated my post there as well.
I really hope that someone can come up with something. Surely, as you say it works on the Galaxy S, one must be able to get this to work on the Nexus One, or any other Android phone for that matter.
Hoping to see some more replies here! Or maybe a recommendation of a programmer who might be able to do this.
Cheers, MC
Hi, I have the RSAP working on an Samsung galaxy i9000 wich my Audi built in car phone. The only hing bugging is the sync of phonebok. It synces alright, but with phone conacts only. It took me a while to realize that phone conacts and my primarily used exchange contact list are two different things in this setting. First I had believed it synces only sim contacts. While this is not the problem, I have not found a way yet to "replicate" the synced exchange contacts or map them to the phone phonebok from business contacts, wich would make them visible to the carphone via rSAP.
maybe someone here knows a solution or an app that would solve this? The rSAP itself works, as Samsung has implemented it into the Galaxy i9000.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
I will exceed the OP's donation and donate $151 who ever manages to crack the rSAP on Android. Samsing just made the sourcecode (search: Samsung releases Captivate source code) so there seems to also be a ZIP file for the GT-I9000 (European Samsung Galaxy S).
I am stuck with TouchHD for my VW PremiumGSM, and would love to get an Android.
Cheers and keep it up devs!!
+1!
plz, an app for rsap on n1!
Android on GSM... maybe, but limited; CDMA not likely
According to a post 4402, "rSAP allows different devices to connect to your mobile's SIM Card to read your contacts etc. The car than uses its own antenna and gsm Module to call. The mobile phone goes in a stand by mode which needs very low energy."
If this is true, then your rSAP-bluetooth connection is actually hijacking your sim card ID and using it to place calls and receive calls through the car's integrated GSM radio, and not actually synching as it seems. In this case (in the US), there is no Verizon or Sprint fix because neither network uses SIM card (chip based ID profiles) technology, and furthermore, both their networks are CDMA and therefore incompatible with Bentley, VW and Audi GSM modules. If the connection could be bridged, the car's GSM radio would be seeking access to a network the CDMA user is not subscribed to.
So the definitive end is that as long as you have a VAG auto, you better have an rSAP GSM phone to use with it.
Ironically, Apple iPhones are GSM and they have had a longstanding good relationship with VAG, so I am surprised to find them boxed out of compatibility with Audi and VW especially. I am not certain, but it could have something to do with Apple's unique provisioning architecture is as much as they do not have a readily accessible SIM card (or battery), and in doing so, they are not respecting the need for SIM portability.
When I worked at a multi-carrier mobile phone reseller years ago, I briefly had a SIM-card based phone that I could then take the SIM card from and insert it into any GSM phone (from the same carrier) and use that phone to place and receive calls. This same migration can be effected in CDMA technology, but only through over-the-air provisioning, and that process is not as immediate as the rSAP SIM takeover process seems to be.
I'll keep looking into this matter, but perhaps the upgrade we should be barking for is to have VAG integrate support for the same bluetooth profile (HFP) that BMW does. BMWs from 2007 on with bluetooth will connect to my Droid X all day. rSAP just overtakes your SIM id and uses it to place and receive calls on the car's GSM radio. Of course it also can access a portion of your Address Book, but after that, you are stuck with the features offered in your car's radio and no longer have full utility of your Droid phone features and apps, etc. As a result, Google Voice search will be a non-starter for Android rSAP unless the car's GSM radio is actually running Android OS as well. And how likely is that...
maybe this could help?
http://allforfreelancers.com/getafr...Android-iPhone-J2ME-Nokia-Symbian-726296.html
Rsap works..but no Bluetooth audio
Hi,
I got my I9000 working on my Premium Bluetooth in my VW Passat. However I cannot figure out how to get the Bluetooth Audio (in the Media Secion of the car display) working. I have enabled it in settings in the car. AUX works, SD-card works.. but bluetooth audio I just cannot figure out.
Does any1 know?
I have a NTG1 Comand in my Mercedes, and the rSAP conection works like charme, with the SGS(2.2.1 jpy).
Only thing that not works is the PBAP so only my sim card contacs r listed!
Mike
tommylad said:
Hi,
I got my I9000 working on my Premium Bluetooth in my VW Passat. However I cannot figure out how to get the Bluetooth Audio (in the Media Secion of the car display) working. I have enabled it in settings in the car. AUX works, SD-card works.. but bluetooth audio I just cannot figure out.
Does any1 know?
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Hi, Bluetooth Audio works exactly as it works with bluetooth headset: you need to launch a music player on the phone and then the audio will be transfered to your car's speakers. I just got my new VW Touran and SGS works almost fine with it (having troubles with the contacts with emails, which are not synced to the car). I think I'm going to get an SDHC card for my music (Media-IN works great with a usb drive).
Cheers
Hello, I just bought a Xperia S and I did not reach in connection it to my Built-in bluetooth system (a parrot built-in kit in a Citroen). The pjone can see the system but I'm not able to make the system pairing.
I already had difficulties in the past with an X10 but it was linked to Android 1.6 and with my Samsung Galaxy S2 under Cyanogen7. I have no issue to conenct with Nokia E6, iPhone 4 or Android 2.3.X smartphones (Samsung Galaxy S2, Samsung Galaxy S, HTC Desire,...).
I think that it could come from the BT stack used by Sony or from their Android adaptation and I don't think I would be able to pair the system till an update could be released or perhaps with ICS.
Does somebody has the same difficulty or a solution ?
Best regards
Try to reset the bluetooth in your car.
Sent from my Sony Xperia S-LT26i
I had the same issue with my bluetooth IO player.First time when I added it after that it would not connect. Turned bluetooth off and on and automatically connected. Might be worth restarting your phone. If the phone can add it then it should be able to connect to it.
Hello, I do,'t know where to reset my car BT as it is a built-in. One solution could be to remove the fuse....
It is not a question of connexion as I'm not able to pair the BT device and the Xperia.
I have no issue with all the other phones !!!
I have a 2009 Ford Mondeo and my Xperia S paired with the integrated bluetooth unit without any issues. Can browse phone book and call log without any issues and obviously make/receive calls.
Hi Guys,
Im having a real bluetooth issue with my SXS and Merc...I can connect and pair fine, however randomly the phone keeps disconnecting.. ive had this working fine with a Iphone4s and lumia 800 so i dont think its the MB side of things...can anyone shed some light on this?
Hi guys
After reading a lot of threads on this and other forums, and so on...i´m still having a problem with my Android Phone.
I searched on the Android Markets, and so on, and after installed several APP the problem still goes on.
I also have tried, Vlingo and all the other app´s in the market, but none has worked well on Android 2.3.3.
I´m looking for a APP that made this 2 things:
1 - Allow my car handsfree to display caller name (not just the number) when a call is received
2 - Made a call trough the steering wheel call buton
* i had this 2 functions "enabled" on my previous WM 6.1 phone and other phones (ex. Blackberry, Symbien OS but when i changed to Android i lost them in my car
** i´m willing to pay a affordable price, if someone here can create a APP to allow Android OS have this enabled with BT Handsfree
Thanks a lot
Best Regards
I have my HOX+ connected to the car via bluetooth. The music streams brilliantly. No issues there at all.
What I do have major issues is with Phone calls. Making outgoing calls is impossible it refuses to conenct to the bluetooth speaker even if you manually select the option, it just goes to internal speaker. If you select external speaker it goes ok but just wont connect to the car sound system at all.
In comming calls are iffy. Some times they pipe through the speaker but not all the time.
I know there are issues with HTC and bluetooth in general just looking for some ideas on how to try and fix the issue.
I have viper rom and elite kernel.
I was even thinking about buying this to see if it would help!
HTCs bluetooth stack has known issues with certain kinds of HSP devices.
The problem is that since the BT stack is propertary and closed source
it is hardly possible to change anything there compared to AOSP roms
where this is open source
So even if I guess you wont like the idea I can only suggest that
you try an AOSP rom if this is really important for you.
There is still not a 100% guarantee but chances are better that it works
About which kind of car BT device are we actually talking?
Even with the AOSP BT stack there are certain devices that have problems
espcially some kind of car manufature propertary solutions.
I use a Kenwood BT capable receiver and it works without problems
The device you linked may not help you because from the description
this is only for A2DP which doesnt include BT phone audio (HSP profile)
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- this dongle is compatible with all devices with BT A2DP profile
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Hmm ok so it sounds like the dongle shouldn't work as expected then ok! Just dont want to spend nearly £50 and find it doesn't work any better.
I have a Kia Pro Cee'd 2 with standard inbuilt car stero / bluetooth. I think it is the fact that it works sometimes bothers me more than if it didnt work at all!
I did try osap for a bit and had similar problems but will try again and see if I can get a good connection!
In the car I have buetooth connection, usb charging port and aux connection that is compatable with iphones. I actually get an iphone connection cable with the car!
Most of the bluetooth boxes I have seen only seem to have A2DP and AVRCP
connection profiles so I dont think these would work either.
Ghost said:
I have a Kia Pro Cee'd 2 with standard inbuilt car stero / bluetooth. I think it is the fact that it works sometimes bothers me more than if it didnt work at all!
I did try osap for a bit and had similar problems but will try again and see if I can get a good connection!
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well then this seems one of those sh.. devices
if you already have tried a recent 4.2.2 AOSP rom and it failed
then it prolly will still not work
Allthough there has been a patch in bluedroid lately regarding connection issues
https://github.com/maxwen/bluedroid/commit/e6eaba415b3d9cb0043a590cc01a1e7d79fed5ca
I have no idea if this may help but you can try
Good afternoon.
I got a simple handsfree bluetooth carkit, wich works as a simple bt headset, transfers call audio to car speakers and nothin more, doesnt sync messages nor contacts, just a simple pair&go.
I had a sonyericson x-10 mini pro with android 2.1 that worked just fine, recently i've aquired a bq aquaris 5hd with jelly bean 4.2.1, and i cant get bluetooth to stay connected.
what happens is, i pair the two devices just fine, but then, they just remain connected for some secs and then connection is disabled, rendering the handsfee kits useless. i reconnect, after some secs it disconnects again. been reading on internet and it seems its a common problem with JB 4.2.1, these bluetooth issues.
my question is, is there any fix i can apply? any app that i can install? anything at all?!
thx for any help
Other phone (Walton Primo X2 with 4.2.1), same issue.
Is there any solution, because no upgrade is planned from the manufacturer.
Thx
MyPass
somebody???