Got both my wife and mum this phone for xmas, but we are really disappointed with photos taken by it. Even when taken in reasonable lighting conditions, photos tend to look really soft and blurry, despite the preview shown on screen looking nice and sharp. It isn't finger trouble (moving whilst shooting), it appears to either be poor auto-focus kicking in when hitting the soft-shutter button, or it is really badly compressing the images (although it is set to 100% quality). Any tips gratefully received!
gingercat said:
Got both my wife and mum this phone for xmas, but we are really disappointed with photos taken by it. Even when taken in reasonable lighting conditions, photos tend to look really soft and blurry, despite the preview shown on screen looking nice and sharp. It isn't finger trouble (moving whilst shooting), it appears to either be poor auto-focus kicking in when hitting the soft-shutter button, or it is really badly compressing the images (although it is set to 100% quality). Any tips gratefully received!
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Hello,
Try disabling the zero shutter lag in the camera app's settings, that improves a lot for me.
Have you tried changing the mode of the camera (swipe down/up in camera app), or maybe a third party camera app from the play store (if nothing else works) ? Also if possible use flash, trust me it improves your photo a lot.
boa05 said:
Hello,
Try disabling the zero shutter lag in the camera app's settings, that improves a lot for me.
Have you tried changing the mode of the camera (swipe down/up in camera app), or maybe a third party camera app from the play store (if nothing else works) ? Also if possible use flash, trust me it improves your photo a lot.
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Thanks for the tips - I'll give them a try when the wife surfaces and let you know how I get on.
Haven't had much joy - perhaps just expecting too much from the phone. It really does look like it is just making a mess of the compression.
Stock camera app is a trash (as most stock apps).
What problem with installing external camera app? Apps like "Camera FV-5" have a LOT of options.
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Hey guys, I haven't seen this question asked outside of the CM7 Thread.
I have UnNamed 1.1.0 Which to my knowledge is identical to stock when it comes to the camera aspect.
When I'm taking a picture it will look great on screen but when I go review it in the gallery it looks almost twice as dark. Almost like the shutterspeed is too quick and wont let enough light in. Outdoors the problem isnt too persistent. Just indoors. I'm going to try another gallery app and see if that help but doubt it will. Anybody else notice this?
I was actually playing with the camera last night and noticed this.
Tried adjusting the ISO and exposure and it helped a little. I noticed that after viewing the picture though, it still turns out a few shades darker than it does in the live view. Not sure what thats about.
I'm seeing this issue as well. Any resolution?
I noticed this too, not only that but there is a slight delay from when you hit the shutter.
Seems like any movement screws up the picture as well.
I think the brightness discrepancy has to do with the screen brightness settings.... try setting your brightness way up, then take a photo and see if your exposure "gets darker".... it should be the same as how it looked when you took the photo...
I think when you take a photo, the camera app automatically brightens the screen to the Max... then when you go to review the photo, your screen brightness settings take over... since most of us use the phone NOT at the highest setting, it makes the exposure look dark....
The same theory goes for anyone editing photos... I always brighten my screen when I edit the photos...that way I'm not adjusting a photos exposure if it doesn't really need it... this needs more practice though as I don't edit often and could be wrong ...
If you're having lag in the shot... try turning off the anti shake option... you might think anti shake can ONLY be good but I find that my photos are fine without it.... but I also know to not try to take photos in dungeons...
Thanks ill try it
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Hey everyone. I was just wondering what was everyone's take on the settings for the camera. I'm still undecided on the Anti-Shake usage in camera mode. It seems that it has a tendency to add more grain/noise to the picture (you can even notice it by carefully looking on the screen when you enable and disable it). Does it really help reduce blurry photos (since the phone does have digital image stabilization)? Also, same thing for video mode using video stabilization. Is it really beneficial to have it enabled? Since if you take pictures while recording, I think the resolution of the photo alters. Just wanted to know what would be the best settings in overall day-to-day usage.
I was just coming in here to complain about the camera myself and see what others are saying for best settings. I cannot either seem to get mine to take pictures without being blurry - in any type of light or with the flash.
I am considering this device for my next phone but had a couple of questions about the camera. It is important to me to be able to take pictures in quick succession (like taking multiple photographs of moving objects etc.).
1. On some of the other competing phones, I've noticed the ability to take a bunch of photos in quick succession, with no lag (the phone is ready to take the next picture immediately after taking a picture). I have read on a couple of sites that after a picture is taken, the Z5/Z5C takes a second or two to save it, so that the camera is not immediately available for the next photo. For those who have experience with this phone, what has been your experience?
2. Is the camera experience on the Compact similar to that on the Z5 or are there any differences?
Thank you!
You can't take pictures in quick succession like that sadly. It takes a while :/
Thanks. Is the lag true of all modes (superior auto and manual) and all resolutions (8 my and 23 mp)?
Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
VJCR said:
Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
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You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Edit: I made a quick video, so u can check it out while not having this device (yet?)
https://youtu.be/aP8dBfkU6QA
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Also, I read in a different post that by turning something called the 'Photo Analyzer' off, the lag between photos can be eliminated. Has any Z5C owner tried this out, and does this do as described in that post?
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I think Photo Analyzer created lagging in older and slower xperia but I don't found any different yet on Z5c before or after disabled it. I never use stock album(even disabled it...lol) probably Photo Analyzer won't mess me.
23MP is slower than expected but 8MP is fast(still slightly slower than my S6 but close to it). You'll need to switch to Sport Mode to shoot moving objects, so only 8MP available to you because scene mode limited to 8MP.
langeveld024 said:
You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Thanks for the video! In practice, do you go in and examine all 60 photos and delete the ones that you don't need?
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I think Photo Analyzer created lagging in older and slower xperia but I don't found any different yet on Z5c before or after disabled it. I never use stock album(even disabled it...lol) probably Photo Analyzer won't mess me.
23MP is slower than expected but 8MP is fast(still slightly slower than my S6 but close to it). You'll need to switch to Sport Mode to shoot moving objects, so only 8MP available to you because scene mode limited to 8MP.
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Thanks for the reply! Two questions:
1. When you talk about 8MP being slightly slower than the S6 - in practice, let's say to photograph my dog, is this sufficiently fast enough? Is there a clear wait time after a photo is taken before I take the next one?
2. In Sport mode, is the lag negligible enough that I can shoot multiple back-to-back photos?
Thanks!
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Thanks for the reply! Two questions:
1. When you talk about 8MP being slightly slower than the S6 - in practice, let's say to photograph my dog, is this sufficiently fast enough? Is there a clear wait time after a photo is taken before I take the next one?
2. In Sport mode, is the lag negligible enough that I can shoot multiple back-to-back photos?
Thanks!
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1. 8MP enough no clear wait time, 23MP a bit harder
2. sport mode only 8MP
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1. 8MP enough no clear wait time, 23MP a bit harder
2. sport mode only 8MP
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Thank you!
In SuperAuto or Manual, you can take fast photos. sort of. If it has to do an autofocus, you have to wait. However if you take successive photos without the focus needing to change much, it is fairly fast. Like less half a second. However, if I tap as fast as I can, it can't keep up. Maybe 1 photo for every three taps.
Timeshift burst cant take photos very fast (8MP). However its a little annoying. You have to switch to that "mode" (basically start that app) if you want to do a timeshift photo. When you are in that mode, I think you are constantly taking photos. Once you hit the "shutter" it gives you -15 +15 photos or so. You can select which one you want, but when I goto the gallery, they're all still in there. It's not as convenient as on the iphone for example. On there, you just hold down the shutter and it takes photos for however long you hold it down. Then you choose what you want and the rest are deleted.
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Timeshift burst cant take photos very fast (8MP). However its a little annoying. You have to switch to that "mode" (basically start that app) if you want to do a timeshift photo. When you are in that mode, I think you are constantly taking photos. Once you hit the "shutter" it gives you -15 +15 photos or so. You can select which one you want, but when I goto the gallery, they're all still in there. It's not as convenient as on the iphone for example. On there, you just hold down the shutter and it takes photos for however long you hold it down. Then you choose what you want and the rest are deleted.
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In older xperia like Z1/Z2, Timeshift burst only takes 1920x1080 photo resolution(2MP). Is that increase to 8MP now on Z5c?
VJCR said:
langeveld024 said:
You can use timeshift burst for Sony. It's an app in playstore.
It shoots 60 pics in 2 seconds, a bit lower quality but still good enough.
Thanks for the video! In practice, do you go in and examine all 60 photos and delete the ones that you don't need?
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Yes I use it for thunderstorm lightnings especially. You can save 1 (or more) of those 60 shots separately and afterwards delete the timeshift pictures.
You can also review the timeshift pictures via stock album app.
However, if u decide to use another album app, you'll be a bit annoyed by every timeshift picture shows 60 pics that's why I delete the timeshift pics after saving the best 1 or 2 separately.
BTW, just made another video of an timeshift shot of a thunderstorm lightning I did last year with my old Xperia Z (C6603) https://youtu.be/ROmoWD_c9hM
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coming from a Lumia 930.. this z5c camera is.. terrible.
- Really slow shot burst (1 photo takes more than 1 second to save)
- When shooting at 23 mpx do yourself a favor and never, NEVER zoom it to 100%. Its only TERRIBLE.
- Low light and you can't use any flash? Don't try to take any photo at all. its just crap.
- Camera app "manual mode" is not manual at all. Changing the SCN (scene mode, night, portrait, food) is NOT manual by any mean
- Apps like Manual Camera (with all the real manual controls) just crash when you try to set iso, shutter time or manual focus (i read somewhere its caused by sony camera firmware, i don't know if its the real reason)
- When Camera is on the phone gets hot REALLY quickly, otherwise is always cold as ice.
- Timeshift video app is awesome
so.. yeah, decent camera, but i still cry when i see my old Lumia930's photos
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coming from a Lumia 930.. this z5c camera is.. terrible.
- Really slow shot burst (1 photo takes more than 1 second to save)
- When shooting at 23 mpx do yourself a favor and never, NEVER zoom it to 100%. Its only TERRIBLE.
- Low light and you can't use any flash? Don't try to take any photo at all. its just crap.
- Camera app "manual mode" is not manual at all. Changing the SCN (scene mode, night, portrait, food) is NOT manual by any mean
- Apps like Manual Camera (with all the real manual controls) just crash when you try to set iso, shutter time or manual focus (i read somewhere its caused by sony camera firmware, i don't know if its the real reason)
- When Camera is on the phone gets hot REALLY quickly, otherwise is always cold as ice.
- Timeshift video app is awesome
so.. yeah, decent camera, but i still cry when i see my old Lumia930's photos
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I think the current build is beta and got very high expectation on 6.0, if Sony doesn't fix the camera I'll consider to sell it out. But other than the camera, the screen, waterproof(no usb flag), stereo speaker are all real upgraded when compared to older Z1c/Z3c.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/general/disappointed-z5-camera-pictures-quality-t3217766/page82
There are a couple of guys on Z5 board keep repeating Z5 camera all around better than S6, G4/V10 or Lumia which made me laugh out though.
Often times the camera on my AT&T is very slow for like 20 to 30 seconds after I open it. It cannot even refresh the screen and show me what the camera is seeing...it is very jerky and refreshes once every few seconds at best.
Then after 20-30 seconds it seems to work fine with no lag.
It makes it almost impossible to capture a quick shot....I miss whatever I wanted to shoot until the camera calms down and starts behaving.
It does not happen every time...maybe 25% to 50%....have not found a pattern to it yet.
Anyone else seeing this?
I haven't seen this particular issue, but there are times when the focus takes way too long and it ends up taking me 1-2 extra seconds to take the shot, which by the time it captures the image, the moment is too late.
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I haven't seen this particular issue, but there are times when the focus takes way too long and it ends up taking me 1-2 extra seconds to take the shot, which by the time it captures the image, the moment is too late.
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It sounds like you have HDR enabled, try to experiment with this setting
emmanuelw said:
It sounds like you have HDR enabled, try to experiment with this setting
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If it is this, that's disappointing. My S7 edge didn't have any issues with HDR.
Not seeing anything like the OP issue on start up. The FV-5 camera is my slowest to start up and takes a second or two. Next slowest would be the LG app in auto and the GCAM port with the LG being just slightly slower. Launching the LG app with the shortcut into manual mode is fastest to launch.
As for the delay while shooting, I see it if I have noise reduction, RAW or HDR enabled. The GCAM is even slower, way slower, at HDR though. I expected the HDR slowdown. The NR and RAW slowdowns were a little bit of a surprise.
By it's very nature, HDR is slow and finicky. It needs more than one frame to compare and blend, ideally at least three. As the shutter speed slows down, your total "black out" (a term I'm borrowing from DSLR shooting) will increase. Then you have the processing time. Google splits the processing out into two parts and it takes a while in total. The LG camera app seems to be doing it all in one go. So I'm not really all that bothered by the time it is taking.
The use of the term black out does remind me of a possible reason why activating Noise Reduction might increase time. There's a couple ways of going about it and one of the two ways used in DSLRs is to take a second black frame. The shutter closes after the actual exposure then a second exposure is taken with the shutter closed. A map, of sorts, is made of spots where there's signal noise and amp glow coming off of the sensor and the processing is applied accordingly. This increases black out time to at least 1.5x, if not 2x, depending on the application within a DSLR. Then there's always a little delay to process and write to memory. I'm not saying that this is 100% what is going on but it is a possibility. Looking at a shot I did last night, it's definitely worth it if it is.
Lastly, I found out early on that when this camera shoots RAW, it fires off two different frames (an unprocessed frame and a processed frame) instead of shooting just one and storing both a processed and unprocessed version of the same frame. Again, the slower the shutter speed, the longer this is going to take. Add in time to process the jpeg and to write the unprocessed RAW file to memory. I haven't tried shooting RAW on the GCAM port to see how it handle it. I know FV-5 is slow when shooting RAW too but never really looked closely to see how it's handling the shooting.
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Launching the LG app with the shortcut into manual mode is fastest to launch.
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HOW?
I can't find a way to create a shortcut to manual mode.
galr said:
HOW?
I can't find a way to create a shortcut to manual mode.
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Long press on the camera app icon.
You will get a list of options with "handles" off to one side of their respective bubbles.
Find the one you want and drag it onto your home screen.
That new shortcut will now launch directly into whatever option you picked.
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Long press on the camera app icon.
You will get a list of options with "handles" off to one side of their respective bubbles.
Find the one you want and drag it onto your home screen.
That new shortcut will now launch directly into whatever option you picked.
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Thanks a lot!!!
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Thanks a lot!!!
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You're welcome! It helped me heaps when I found this out.
Hey guys, last update of GCam for G7thinq working on out device! (not everything is working obviously).
Working:
- main camera with HDR
- wide angle
- portrait
- video at 1080p
- H265 video recording
- night sight (but lags)
Edit: apk with working wide angle (thanks to @Whoareyou)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kQq...w?usp=drivesdk
Enable Add AUX
Now switching between front and back camera twice is your switch to wide angle and back!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g7-thinq/themes/app-google-camera-gcam-lg-g7-thinq-t3855081
Cheers!
Here is an example of stock (top) vs Gcam (bottom). Gcam preserves more details (check bricks for example), and makes low light images a bit more clean overall.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14j-1hnBAVNeIdqufDQP8F3UeH4swnZ7x/view?usp=sharing
The v40 has a very similar night mode, it just doesn't do much and conflicts with the flash. They seem to have tried but quit
I have an apk I found with working Wide angle but I am not sure which one it is (I've got a few in my downloads ?) I'll upload it here when I figure out which it is.
Edit: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kQqhAxvcDEQZN8MGu1Qg3WgtuiI7Cyex/view?usp=drivesdk
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Switch to wide angle:
Switch to ffc
Switch back to rear
It should now be using wide angle.
@Whoareyou great find man! Works well!
For unfamiliar folks, what makes Google Camera great is the software post processing, particularly Google's HDR, which I never turn off, and portrait - great results. Also somehow GCam manages to preserve more details compared to LG's camera. Now we have working wide angle, I can switch to GCam completely, at least for photos. Night sight working as well, we just have to deal with lag in viewfinder.
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I have an apk I found with working Wide angle but I am not sure which one it is (I've got a few in my downloads ) I'll upload it here when I figure out which it is.
Edit: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kQqhAxvcDEQZN8MGu1Qg3WgtuiI7Cyex/view?usp=drivesdk
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Switch to wide angle:
Switch to ffc
Switch back to rear
It should now be using wide angle.
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Thanks for the link, but am I missing something as far as fixing the extreme lag with the view finder and image capture? Between hitting the capture button and the actual image being taken is several seconds, and the viewfinder lag makes it very hard to use.
I have lag only in night sight mode.
Shutter button works only on second touch for me. And yes, GCam takes a moment to take a picture compared to stock camera, that's just how it works on on phone.
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I have lag only in night sight mode.
Shutter button works only on second touch for me. And yes, GCam takes a moment to take a picture compared to stock camera, that's just how it works on on phone.
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The viewfinder is laggy no matter what for me, and it takes much longer than a moment for the shutter button to register for me. Oh well, maybe I'll have better luck with some future modded APK. The camera that comes stock with the V40 is already pretty good, but having night sight and Google's HDR would be the cherry on top.
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The viewfinder is laggy no matter what for me, and it takes much longer than a moment for the shutter button to register for me. Oh well, maybe I'll have better luck with some future modded APK. The camera that comes stock with the V40 is already pretty good, but having night sight and Google's HDR would be the cherry on top.
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Sounds like you missing something in settings. Make sure buffer fix is on on settings - bsg - fixes
twoxa said:
Sounds like you missing something in settings. Make sure buffer fix is on on settings - bsg - fixes
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It worked! Thank you much more functional now.
so when i try to take a picture it just doesnt take a pic.. also the shutter speed is insanely slow..