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Hey there, just got a question.
I did the root process a few times on my phone and did a couple times to flash back to stock firmware. Now after flashing or just factory reset, it seems like the scrolling isn't smooth as it used to be. Like for example scrolling on the drawer or even just browsing through the market.
Now I know sometimes flashing firmware might leave files or stuff left behind. Is this correct?
Any insight on this?
Tri3Dent said:
Hey there, just got a question.
I did the root process a few times on my phone and did a couple times to flash back to stock firmware. Now after flashing or just factory reset, it seems like the scrolling isn't smooth as it used to be. Like for example scrolling on the drawer or even just browsing through the market.
Now I know sometimes flashing firmware might leave files or stuff left behind. Is this correct?
Any insight on this?
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I've had an HD2 before, and it did slow down your system, on the HD2 you preform whats called a "Task29" to format your phone for a new flash, i don't know how this works on the X10 actually, i just wanted to give you some information.
Yea that's why I want to find out. Any devs care to comment on this?
Looking forward to the comments!
i think se official firmware is better than rooted custom firmware i prepared to use the official firmware than rooted one because is not well developed by the devteam...i'll root my x10i until the devteam make it really stable....but thanks devteam for all your efforts....
Tri3Dent said:
Now I know sometimes flashing firmware might leave files or stuff left behind. Is this correct?
Any insight on this?
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There won't be any stuff or files left behind ...
Kind Regards
notimplementedyet
As a rule of thumb, you should ideally do a "factory reset" after a flash for optimum performance. Do make sure you have your data backed up first.
050177e said:
i think se official firmware is better than rooted custom firmware i prepared to use the official firmware than rooted one because is not well developed by the devteam...i'll root my x10i until the devteam make it really stable....but thanks devteam for all your efforts....
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You don't know what you are writing. The root firmware is completely same as original only the access rights of ONE file (the SH) is manipulated. After that is done we install su and superuser (and betterterm, htcime keyboard etc but you can delete all of them or just outcomment in the batch if you dont want them).
So what you are writing is bull**** because the firmware is the same.
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Bin4ry
050177e said:
i think se official firmware is better than rooted custom firmware i prepared to use the official firmware than rooted one because is not well developed by the devteam...i'll root my x10i until the devteam make it really stable....but thanks devteam for all your efforts....
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Bin4ry is right - please do some research into things before you make comments like this.
If you've followed all of the instructions correctly, it's the applications and games that you've installed that are causing problems - nothing else.
MarylandCookie said:
As a rule of thumb, you should ideally do a "factory reset" after a flash for optimum performance. Do make sure you have your data backed up first.
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I've never done the "factory reset" after I've flashed.
What gets lost? APN settings, Email addresses, contacts, SMS?
Programs still intact?
Thx
Izzy_Deadyet said:
I've never done the "factory reset" after I've flashed.
What gets lost? APN settings, Email addresses, contacts, SMS?
Programs still intact?
Thx
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You will lose all user data and settings, i.e contacts, sms, mms, alarms, calendar entries, system settings and all user installed apps. Thats why you should back up everything before a full flash, once flashed, do a full factory reset and then reinstall your data.
Will take longer than your usual method but it is recommended
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You will lose all user data and settings, i.e contacts, sms, mms, alarms, calendar entries, system settings and all user installed apps. Thats why you should back up everything before a full flash, once flashed, do a full factory reset and then reinstall your data.
Will take longer than your usual method but it is recommended
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Thanks, wasn't sure about the apps.
I guess with my combo of Titanium backup and My Backup Pro it shouldn't be that big of a job
I found out why my phone was going slow and laggy scrolling. I took out the micro sd and the phone was fast like when I first got it.
So I backed up the files in the card and formatted. It didn't work at first but now it is ok. I thought the micro sd reader was faulty causing the phone being slow so I don't really know.
What does wiping data/cache actually do, whats does it wipe? Is there like a list or something of what it erases? I just want to install new rom and don't want to erase stuff I need. Thx to anyone that can help me understand.
Payaso1 said:
What does wiping data/cache actually do, whats does it wipe? Is there like a list or something of what it erases? I just want to install new rom and don't want to erase stuff I need. Thx to anyone that can help me understand.
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It wipes all your user data. If u want to keep your apps go get titanium back up and back up all your apps. Then wipe data and cache then after flash a new rom download titanium again and restore apps with data.
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Hey thx so it doesn't wipe contacts, ringtones, or other info?
If you are installing a new ROM the best way to save contacts is to make them google contacts, sync, and then all of your contacts are kept with google, so when you log in with the new rom everything downloads to the phone. with ringtones as long as they are saved in media/sounds they are fine. It's difficult to install a new rom while keeping all of your current user data perfectly intact. Nothing is 100% guaranteed to work, and installing a ROM always comes with risks. If you are THAT dependent upon your userdata in it's current state, maybe you're better off where you are. Where there is a will, there is always a way, but if you are simply trying to save yourself time and effort, working with custom ROMs rarely affords you that comfort. Once you get it set up it can run like a dream, but getting there usually has a few bumps.
I was wondering how I could make an exact copy of my system the way I have it set up, minus my personal info / installed apps after the fact and transfer it to another note.
I installed Holo kernel / TCPnote v2, froze tw launcher (after installing the latest golauncher ex beta) and several other bloat related things. Basically the whole system is running GoContacts / sms / launcher / locker. Changed some memory options / font / themes.
I have a friend that has a note as well and he liked my setup but I don't feel like going through all the work of doing it all again on his and was wondering if there was someway I could dump my setup to a image and reflash on his.
Any input is appreicated.
Would it help if whomever can help me with this got a donation, say $50.00 for their time?
jb0nd38372 said:
Would it help if whomever can help me with this got a donation, say $50.00 for their time?
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You can do a backup through CWM and then copy the backup file to his clockwork mod backup folder and restore it . also do a titaninum back up of all the apps he wants that you have. then do a factory reset on his phone and it will erase all of your personal information. then go back to titanium back up and restore all the apps he wants from your setup.
Thanks for the idea, I dunno if what I said in the first post was sensible, I already have a bunch of apps and stuff installed for me, that 'm sure he wouldn't want. What I was hoping to do is be able to image the core system (or the whole thing, and take out extras + my personal info / accounts, etc) then repackage it, flash with odin or cwm, Basically like the devs do roms, except backwards. I have the system setup / tweaks / launcher / addon's and would like to pull that out, minus anything i had installed afterwards, and make it flashable to his phone by any means necessary.
His phone is completely stock, so if I could image it to fash thru odin then he would have working root / cwm / custom rom + beats and other things i've deleted such as bloatware / vpn / stuff average users will never use.
Any other sugguestions?
djwascom33 said:
You can do a backup through CWM and then copy the backup file to his clockwork mod backup folder and restore it . also do a titaninum back up of all the apps he wants that you have. then do a factory reset on his phone and it will erase all of your personal information. then go back to titanium back up and restore all the apps he wants from your setup.
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No I dont know how to do it any other way. but if you could give me a thanks for trying it would be very appreciated
On Titanium Backup, you can uncheckmark the programs that you don't want to restore.
You can do a backup on your phone, and a backup using Titanium Backup, restore onto his phone by copying over the clockwordmod folder and the Titanium Backup folder.
Root/cwm his phone, then restore using cwm. Factory reset, then reboot.
Download Titanium Backup (Pro makes this a lot less painful), run it, do a batch restore, and uncheck the programs he won't use.
EDIT: Someone else ninja'd me. I really don't know if there's a way to reverse it. There should be theoretically. You most likely would have to still factory reset and use titanium backup.
EDIT 2: This might work: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.p3droid.odinmaker.donate
Can you make a nandroid without data and cache?
at first glance it looks like you want to make a rom
but upon reading it again, i have to say:
generally no, but it MIGHT be possible with LOTS of work
the main problem is, that most of your settings (like widgets, ...) are stored in data.
so what you could do is:
manually remove the data stuff you don't want, keep only the stuff you really need (lots of work, and might not work correctly)
and then you might be able to share it together with your system image (you would need to wipe cache and data before you write your backed up data...
which brings us back to the original answer...
I think possibly doing a part manual and part automated might be your best bet. Use titanium to back up then restore apps to his phone. There are apps that backup your desktop (shortcut and widget locations). Perhaps this will reduce a bulk of your setup time once you get a preferred ROM in place. Paid version of Titanium Backup allows you to restore all apps in unattended batch rather then making you click yes/install to every app. This may be worth it, I love it. I have been thinking about this on and off since yesterday and just can't think of a way of doing it that wont require a good but of work one way or another. Good luck though, let us know what you figure out.
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Thanks for all the suggestions, for the moment, I installed CWM and rooted the Note, still deciding on the best way to get his like mine with minimal amount of work needed for me or him. To bad there is not a way to image a phone's system completely, then just restore on the other phone.
Now I wish I would have cared more about programming instead of the hardware side back when I was in school eating up computer courses.
Chief Geek said:
I think possibly doing a part manual and part automated might be your best bet. Use titanium to back up then restore apps to his phone. There are apps that backup your desktop (shortcut and widget locations). Perhaps this will reduce a bulk of your setup time once you get a preferred ROM in place. Paid version of Titanium Backup allows you to restore all apps in unattended batch rather then making you click yes/install to every app. This may be worth it, I love it. I have been thinking about this on and off since yesterday and just can't think of a way of doing it that wont require a good but of work one way or another. Good luck though, let us know what you figure out.
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Search fruit cake maker and contact the dev.. It may be simple to get working on the note.
jb0nd38372 said:
Thanks for all the suggestions, for the moment, I installed CWM and rooted the Note, still deciding on the best way to get his like mine with minimal amount of work needed for me or him. To bad there is not a way to image a phone's system completely, then just restore on the other phone.
Now I wish I would have cared more about programming instead of the hardware side back when I was in school eating up computer courses.
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00mred00 said:
Search fruit cake maker and contact the dev.. It may be simple to get working on the note.
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Just my thought. Search for the user Samcripp. He basically has a program that makes s a system img of your current setup. I know it is in the skyrocket forum but not sure if it would work for our device.....not sure why it wouldn't but that's why I'm not a dev.... lol
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Hello, I'm brand new to these forums, but I've been browsing them for the past week, and Im thinking about making the plunge to CM7. I've never done anything like this before, so could you guys answer a few of my questions, and maybe put my fears to rest?
First off, let me say that I read the Moto Atrix noob guide and updated thread.
This is my phone info:
System Version: 4.5.141.MB860.ATT.en.US
Android Version: 2.3.6
I have had this phone for over a year, and everything is completely stock.
Questions:
1. I have seen various threads about the latest firmware from Motorola causing an inability to change the OS. Is this true? And if not, do all the guides I've read regarding flashing, roms, backup, etc. still applicable?
2. I want to run CM7, but is it better to install CM7 directly from their website, or use some of the versions that I have seen members offering here. What are the main differences? What do you recommend?
3. Is CM7 as stable as stock?
4. Is it possible to flash different kernels to see what type of battery life difference they make, and can you do this without changing the OS?
5. I've seen multiple times of the importance of backing everything up. My only concerns are the contacts and sms. My contacts are stored on "Motorola Services." How can I back them up? As for sms, I use an app called SMS backup and restore. It creates an xml file I think, so when I go to restore my sms messages, everything should be as i was before, right? I'm worried about formatting issues here.
I just want to make sure I understand everything so I dont mess anything up. Thanks for your help!
yep. being a virgin and knowing it has to happen gives ya them butterflies in the tummy. Don't worry, you'll be fine, WE were all virgins at one time also. There will be somone here to assist you if you need it.
1.Follow the automatic bootloader thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
2. Read a little on the roms you are considering. The ones based on cm7 are basically the same. differences will be in themes, and extra/different features like diff apps and launchers & more or less customization options such as for settings. Have to choose which one appeals to you, and go with it. Beauty of this is if you want to try something else, only takes a matter of minutes and you can change to a differnt cm7 rom. In a lot of instances, once you are on cm7, flashing a different cm7 rom, you don't have to erase or lose your data, just wipe system and caches and load new flavor. Only takes a couple of minutes to flash a new rom, or kernal, or radio, and your data stays intact. Changing to a CM9 or a different base rom is when you will need to wipe the whole phone including data.
3. Yes, cm7 was the last revision when devs were still able to use OEM drivers, so they are stable.
4. Answered in #2
5. I don't recall which apps were good for saving your sms stuff on cm7. Seems like ages ago since I was using that! Might want to consider moving your Motorola based stuff over to Google. Contacts will be availabe there and will load automatically when you initiate your new rom. You don't need to do any formatting, but erasing will wipe areas, and will erase personal data if that option is chosen, so your concern is noted. Pay attention to what you are doing, don't wipe data from CWM when flashing if you intend on keeping your user data. You can wipe system and caches and not lose your data.
Yes back everthing up. Make a copy of your PDS folder and stash it away on your pc (do this before starting flashing), this has your phone id stuffs and a couple other valuables. Don't share that with anyone either. Make a nandroid b/u (an option in your new CWM) as soon as you can after installing CWM. You can reload that if things don't go good, and be back where you started. Install SuperuserSU (not the plain Superuser) from google play.
Just do it, you'll like it! become one of the elite!
If you ask me... You'll need a custom recovery to be able to flash CM7 anyway, so why not use it to make a proper full nandroid backup too?
I mean sure, you can try messing around with specialized apps to save and restore only the parts most critical to you (like contacts and texts), but if for any reason you'll want to completely go back, at least you'll know you can.
ravilov said:
If you ask me... You'll need a custom recovery to be able to flash CM7 anyway, so why not use it to make a proper full nandroid backup too?
I mean sure, you can try messing around with specialized apps to save and restore only the parts most critical to you (like contacts and texts), but if for any reason you'll want to completely go back, at least you'll know you can.
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Will this full backup allow me to then only restore the data I wanted to keep? Because I know I wouldnt want to restore the whole thing.
wvcaudill2 said:
Will this full backup allow me to then only restore the data I wanted to keep? Because I know I wouldnt want to restore the whole thing.
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CWM will allow you to restore individual partitions. So you can, say, restore just /data and leave others intact. It won't let you restore specific folders in /data though. Basically such a backup is most useful if you need to restore the entire phone to a specific state.
wvcaudill2 said:
Will this full backup allow me to then only restore the data I wanted to keep? Because I know I wouldnt want to restore the whole thing.
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Use titanium backup to restore individual apps and their data...
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ravilov said:
CWM will allow you to restore individual partitions. So you can, say, restore just /data and leave others intact. It won't let you restore specific folders in /data though. Basically such a backup is most useful if you need to restore the entire phone to a specific state.
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what all is stored in the /data partition?
Also, is there some comparison of roms out there? I've been searching through the forum, and can't seem to find any. I see NottachAtrix4G alot. Is this based off of CM7? Also, does the fingerprint scanner work in cm7?
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what all is stored in the /data partition?
Also, is there some comparison of roms out there? I've been searching through the forum, and can't seem to find any. I see NottachAtrix4G alot. Is this based off of CM7? Also, does the fingerprint scanner work in cm7?
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The data partition is where your contacts, messages, settings and apps that you have installed go to.
I'm sure I saw some threads comparing ROMs, even though I recommend you try all the ROMs and see which one best fits your needs. Back when I had my old Milestone 2, everyone talked about the CM7 ROM, as it was the best to the device, but as soon as I tried the MIUI 2.3.7, never came back to CM7 (at least with M2, used it again with atrix)
Nottachtrix isn't based off CM7, it's a stock gingerbread ROM with modifications.
Yes, the fingerprint scanner works (at least on Neutrino CM7).
MaxK47 said:
The data partition is where your contacts, messages, settings and apps that you have installed go to.
I'm sure I saw some threads comparing ROMs, even though I recommend you try all the ROMs and see which one best fits your needs. Back when I had my old Milestone 2, everyone talked about the CM7 ROM, as it was the best to the device, but as soon as I tried the MIUI 2.3.7, never came back to CM7 (at least with M2, used it again with atrix)
Nottachtrix isn't based off CM7, it's a stock gingerbread ROM with modifications.
Yes, the fingerprint scanner works (at least on Neutrino CM7).
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Thanks for a good answer. I have yet another question though.
Some of the ROMS I have been looking at advertise that they are packaged with a certain kernel. Do all ROMS contain a kernel, or will I have to flash my own depending on which ROM I choose?
Again, sorry for all the questions, I just want to make sure I dont screw this up!
Every ROM is a complete system, so it must come with a kernel. In most cases after flashing a ROM you're ready to go. You'd only want to flash a different kernel if for some reason you're not happy with the one supplied with the ROM.
So the T-Mobile HTC One comes with quite a bit of bloatware and I just wanted to make sure I uninstall all that crap with doing any other harm. So I'm creating a list of bloatware below. My question is, is it safe to remove all the bloatware with doing any harm to OS/phone in anyway? Btw, I do have my phone rooted and have Titanium Backup.
List of Bloatware: Feel free to add to the list if I've missed anything.
LookOut
T-Mobile MyAccount
T-Mobile Name ID
T-Mobile TV
Visual Voicemail
Also, is there anyway of taking out the Internet and replacing it with Chrome?
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So the T-Mobile HTC One comes with quite a bit of bloatware and I just wanted to make sure I uninstall all that crap with doing any other harm. So I'm creating a list of bloatware below. My question is, is it safe to remove all the bloatware with doing any harm to OS/phone in anyway? Btw, I do have my phone rooted and have Titanium Backup.
List of Bloatware: Feel free to add to the list if I've missed anything.
LookOut
T-Mobile MyAccount
T-Mobile Name ID
T-Mobile TV
Visual Voicemail
Also, is there anyway of taking out the Internet and replacing it with Chrome?
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You can take out the internet but some of the HTC stuff most likely needs it. Also Chrome does not support Adobe Flash player where i am sure the internet one does. If you want to make chrome a System app, you do this with TB. Just long hold the app you want to make a system app in TB and click convert to system. This will move the app from the user data to the system. If you wipe the phone the app will still be there but will just need to be updated. An easy way to find bloatware is to freeze the app under TB and if you have problems you know that the system needs it. You can just go and unfreeze it and use it again. If you uninstall something and do not make a backup of it, chances are you are going to run into problems.
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You can take out the internet but some of the HTC stuff most likely needs it. Also Chrome does not support Adobe Flash player where i am sure the internet one does. If you want to make chrome a System app, you do this with TB. Just long hold the app you want to make a system app in TB and click convert to system. This will move the app from the user data to the system. If you wipe the phone the app will still be there but will just need to be updated. An easy way to find bloatware is to freeze the app under TB and if you have problems you know that the system needs it. You can just go and unfreeze it and use it again. If you uninstall something and do not make a backup of it, chances are you are going to run into problems.
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Thanks for your input, I'll look into it.
the bloatware is just reinstalling upon restoart
Need a Cusotm Kernel
advocat3 said:
the bloatware is just reinstalling upon restoart
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If you just have root the system files are not writable. You have to flash a writable kernel. Root and stock kernel will not let you R/W it will say it did and confirm, but upon reboot, well you already know that.
Check out some custom kernels to access those advance features. I am on bulletproof right now. Pretty slick
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If you just have root the system files are not writable. You have to flash a writable kernel. Root and stock kernel will not let you R/W it will say it did and confirm, but upon reboot, well you already know that.
Check out some custom kernels to access those advance features. I am on bulletproof right now. Pretty slick
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Thanks! I ended up choosing 'freeze' for now which is good enough for me.
EDIT: Needed a writable kernel to force uninstall talk in order to install the new hangouts. everything went great! installed this kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255160