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I received my RN3SD 3gb yesterday. I was testing the charging rate today because I felt that it was charging slower today than yesterday. I used the program Ampere to check the charging rate. Market link is:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...lay&pcampaignid=APPU_1_aYcvV5ziJMG0uATH1YSoBw
Well, in getting around 1000 mAh on an average with a max of 1300 mAh and lowest of 230 mAh.
I read somewhere that the charging rate should be around 1900 mAh. I would appreciate if I got feedback as to what the normal charging rate is for you guys (ideally, checked in the same app). And please let me know if I should be using a different app. Thanks.
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Unrooted ROM MIUI Global 7.2.2.0
Yes u r right, i m getting 1900 mah with 16 gb model ,ampere app is ok. Maybe try factory reset
Ampere showing 1.9k mA to 2k mA here.try check your cable and charger.
How that matter and what doest it affect ? Its about charging time or battery life ?
I'm gettgin 1550mAh
What was the battery percentage when you opened Ampere? When it's getting up to like 90 % the current goes down.
antonholmstedt said:
What was the battery percentage when you opened Ampere? When it's getting up to like 90 % the current goes down.
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When I opened Ampere the reading always varies. Sometimes is 490 sometimes 1150, the highest I've got is 1650. The charging cable and the charger are brand new. Even tried charging from a USB power bank, got about 500mah. What can be the reason for this slow charging. These are all values foe when charge is less than 90%. What can be the reason?
Depends on what powerbank you have. Most don't support high charging rates, (although there are some more powerful ones from xiaomi and lenovo on the low end market).
On another note,
I am wondering about the maximum Voltage and Amp we can charge with safely? i tried 3 differennt ones; 5v 0.3A, 5v 1.2A and 5.2V 2A. All seem to work fine, with the last one i got about 10% per 10 min with a value of around 2100 Mahor higher , but i am not sure if this is a safe way to charge the device?
Does anyone know what is the maximum safe charging value?
V-incent said:
Depends on what powerbank you have. Most don't support high charging rates, (although there are some more powerful ones from xiaomi and lenovo on the low end market).
On another note,
I am wondering about the maximum Voltage and Amp we can charge with safely? i tried 3 differennt ones; 5v 0.3A, 5v 1.2A and 5.2V 2A. All seem to work fine, with the last one i got about 10% per 10 min with a value of around 2100 Mahor higher , but i am not sure if this is a safe way to charge the device?
Does anyone know what is the maximum safe charging value?
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There are regulators inside the phone that step down the voltage to charge the battery, i think it's a 4.35v cell but the phone will regulate the charge. So long as the USB voltage is within spec it's fine, many chargers have 5.1 or 5.2 volts to combat voltage drop with higher current over long leads or leads with small conductors.
mine about 1.900 mA
Hi, I'm using the 4x snapdragon, with the final Resurrection rom.
Can someone recommend a good kernel with quick charge and works alongside this rom?
Thanks in advance.
oXydead said:
Hi, I'm using the 4x snapdragon, with the final Resurrection rom.
Can someone recommend a good kernel with quick charge and works alongside this rom?
Thanks in advance.
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The Xiaomi Redmi Note 4(X) doenst support Quick Charge!
Snapdragon 625.
I recall that the chip does and xiaomi within the kernel restricted that.
oXydead said:
Snapdragon 625.
I recall that the chip does and xiaomi within the kernel restricted that.
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No they did not, it's not kernel related but the charging board and battery that are not compatible.
Thanks for the info.
Why so obsessed to quick charge?
It's not much faster than the regular charge.
Quick charge enabled phone charge the 3000mah battery in 1.5hours... If the battery is larger 4000mah, it will takes approximately 2 hours to charge.
RN4 regular charge is about 2 hours 15mins... Its just 15 minutes longer and if we usually charge it overnight, its nothing difference... you want to take the unknown risk?
666dsa666 said:
No they did not, it's not kernel related but the charging board and battery that are not compatible.
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Are you sure? Source? Or do you mean that they are not rated for QC?
aabenroi said:
you want to take the unknown risk?
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Yes!
We do all sort of things with our devices that are outside of "safe use". We overclock and overvolt them, flash stuff that could potentially brick them, etc.
As to why? I wouldn't charge the device from 0-100 with QC enabled but i sure as hell would like to charge it for 5 min and get 20-30%
If QC could be enabled it has to be tested sure, maybe it wouldn't be a good idea with an ambient T of 30C maybe the cut of point would be 60% or 20min. But yes I would like to test it.
Peace
ready for dwialli bomb?
Aletheia said:
Are you sure? Source? Or do you mean that they are not rated for QC?
Yes!
We do all sort of things with our devices that are outside of "safe use". We overclock and overvolt them, flash stuff that could potentially brick them, etc.
As to why? I wouldn't charge the device from 0-100 with QC enabled but i sure as hell would like to charge it for 5 min and get 20-30%
If QC could be enabled it has to be tested sure, maybe it wouldn't be a good idea with an ambient T of 30C maybe the cut of point would be 60% or 20min. But yes I would like to test it.
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When it comes to play the electricity, the risk isn't your phone brick but bomb...
And it will nowhere near 20-30% in 5 minutes.
LG G5 that have QC 3.0 enabled charge around 10% in 5 minutes. its with 2800mah battery, faster usb-c, etc...
What's the battery charging rate with a stock charger? My stock charger gives 1300mah at 70% and a Blitzwolf QC 3.0 gives 1700mah at 70%.
aabenroi said:
When it comes to play the electricity, the risk isn't your phone brick but bomb...
And it will nowhere near 20-30% in 5 minutes.
LG G5 that have QC 3.0 enabled charge around 10% in 5 minutes. its with 2800mah battery, faster usb-c, etc...
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Well sure it won't be for every one, there is a real risk of the battery catching fire (bomb is a bit hyperbolic) . That's why IF it's possible people willing to take the risk have to test it out. Some might think it's worth the risk though.
My admittedly rusty back of the napkin math says it should be theoreticly possible to get 20% With 20V and 3.6A in less than 7 min.
portgasfire said:
What's the battery charging rate with a stock charger? My stock charger gives 1300mah at 70% and a Blitzwolf QC 3.0 gives 1700mah at 70%.
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1-80 should be close to 2000mah.
I have 2 rn4, comes with different stock charger.
EU and US plug
Stock charger with EU plug, charge about 1400-1600mah
Stock charger with US plug, charge about 1800-1900mah
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Aletheia said:
Well sure it won't be for every one, there is a real risk of the battery catching fire (bomb is a bit hyperbolic) . That's why IF it's possible people willing to take the risk have to test it out. Some might think it's worth the risk though.
My admittedly rusty back of the napkin math says it should be theoreticly possible to get 20% With 20V and 3.6A in less than 7 min.
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Wow thats much quicker than op5 dash charge :good:
As I know Jun ao kernel is support qc 3.0
aabenroi said:
Why so obsessed to quick charge?
It's not much faster than the regular charge.
Quick charge enabled phone charge the 3000mah battery in 1.5hours... If the battery is larger 4000mah, it will takes approximately 2 hours to charge.
RN4 regular charge is about 2 hours 15mins... Its just 15 minutes longer and if we usually charge it overnight, its nothing difference... you want to take the unknown risk?
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you are wrong,
RN4 snapdragon need 3 hour 5m for fully charged (10~100%) with 5V2A charger
and the advantage of QC is they charge very fast in 0~70% (about 30min only) then slower until 100% (max 1H 40m total)
aerialus said:
you are wrong,
RN4 snapdragon need 3 hour 5m for fully charged (10~100%) with 5V2A charger
and the advantage of QC is they charge very fast in 0~70% (about 30min only) then slower until 100% (max 1H 40m total)
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Oh please, 0-70% in 30 minutes?
Read here buddy: https://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-5-galaxy-s8-battery-charge-781682/
Congratz.... You found better technology than OP5 dash charge and you don't need the fancy usb-c.
I just measured my RN4 charge speed
0-90 : less than 2 hour
90-100 : you need 45 minutes
aabenroi said:
Oh please, 0-70% in 30 minutes?
Read here buddy: https://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-5-galaxy-s8-battery-charge-781682/
Congratz.... You found better technology than OP5 dash charge and you don't need the fancy usb-c.
I just measured my RN4 charge speed
0-90 : less than 2 hour
90-100 : you need 45 minutes
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I can say that because i have zenfone 2 with Quick charge support bro,, my zen2 only need 30m~40m from 10% to 60~70%
And can you upload log battery from 0~100 ?
Because i have 2 mido and all need 3hour for fully charge,, check my prove in attachment (log battery charge mido)
My friends also need +-3H for fully charged reno4
aerialus said:
I can say that because i have zenfone 2 with Quick charge support bro,, my zen2 only need 30m~40m from 10% to 60~70%
And can you upload log battery from 0~100 ?
Because i have 2 mido and all need 3hour for fully charge,, check my prove in attachment (log battery charge mido)
My friends also need +-3H for fully charged reno4
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Well my sister has a zen 2 too... It's not quick charge..
Quick charge is qualcomm tech, zen 2 have intel on it.
And zen2 just have 3000mah battery on it, mido is 4000mah capacity... It's 25% larger. Its totally different...
Before using mido, I was using mi5s that have QC 3.0, with legit 3.0 charger and usb-c, its no way 60-70% in 30 minutes.
Well I have 2 mido, come with 2 different stock charger. One is RN4 global, with EU plug... Yes it will need about 3 hours to charge. One is RN4x, come with chinese charger. It need 2.5 hours to top... 2 hours will get you from 10 to anywhere between 10-90+%, the last 10% is very slow...
Will provide logs later, because I've fully charged my phone this morning and still have 78% left this afternoon.
I've measured this morning charge... Start from 17% to 90% takes 100 minutes.
Note 4 takes less than 2 hours for full charge 10-100%. Just don't use the phone while charging.
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Yeah, need at least 2hours to charge from critical value to 90 percent, as my experience fully charge ur phone is bad (i prefer to charge till 95 to 97 percent) furthermore the screen on time is the same.
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aerialus said:
I can say that because i have zenfone 2 with Quick charge support bro,, my zen2 only need 30m~40m from 10% to 60~70%
And can you upload log battery from 0~100 ?
Because i have 2 mido and all need 3hour for fully charge,, check my prove in attachment (log battery charge mido)
My friends also need +-3H for fully charged reno4
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As request, this is my charge logs....
Yours from 10%... 1 hour charge = 39%
While mine from 10%... 1 hour charge = 58%
Sorry, I have many work to do and need my phone, so I can't do full charge now. You can see the graph, I have to use my phone while charging... Should be more than 58% if I do not use it
I use ampere app
For me show maximum 1500ma and during on or off quick charge mode didn't change ampere level
How much for you?
My rom is couco92 but after enabling quick charge my ampere don't up
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m890 said:
I use ampere app
For me show maximum 1500ma and during on or off quick charge mode didn't change ampere level
How much for you?
My rom is couco92 but after enabling quick charge my ampere don't up
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Quick Charging is 3020mA for me. Charges from 20% to 100% in about 60 minutes.
Edit: I'm using this one on Oreo DU with x829 btw: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Twi...0-For-iphone-7-8-Plus-X-Wall/32838242756.html
I am on Oreo DU and max charge is arround 1300mah. My original charger came broken, so i am using 2A one, also qc but 2.0, original cable is also faulty as with it it charges some 400mah.
1300mah is fast enough for me.
Heyyo, eh I haven't found Amphere to be that accurate to be honest. I'd recommend accubattery over it.
For charging speed? You pretty much need to leave your device charging with the screen turned off for at least ten minutes to get an accurate quick charge reading.
I've seen it hit up to 2500mAh with stock charging brick and cable.
Max approx ~3000 mA. But you should note it's when battery level is low. Charging speed and current depends from battery lewel, higher battery lewel means slower charging
I didn't measure, but from 3 per cent to 100 75 minutes
m890 said:
I use ampere app
For me show maximum 1500ma and during on or off quick charge mode didn't change ampere level
How much for you?
My rom is couco92 but after enabling quick charge my ampere don't up
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Have your problem been solved? I'm facing same issue and it happened after flashing cuoco92 room. After that I tried most of Oreo and nougat rom but none of them solved my problem except slim7 rom.
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My original charger and cable working fine as slim7 rom let me charge my device quickly but other roms not. Slim7 gives 2900 max current on fast charging while 2300 current without turning it on. In others it gives 990mah or sometimes 1560mah and doesn't matter fast charging enabled or not. I also tested my charger and cable with le 1s and showing 4000+ mAh current. Don't know what happened to my device while. I always prefer clean flash included internal storage during flashing new rom.
I got a new Qualcomm quick charge 3 certified charger ..but according to the readings in ampere app ....the output is like 1750 mA ..but the same charger with note 9 gives an output of 2900-3000 mA ...is this the phone problem ...if anyone has the same problem ....and found a solution ..please help
It does not charge at full power all the time. There are several charging states and the full power one is from 15% to 65%, I think.
2155X said:
It does not charge at full power all the time. There are several charging states and the full power one is from 15% to 65%, I think.
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Yeahh ....I checked that also ...I measured the mA from mi charger ..it was 2800-2900 mA ..the new charger gives about 1650-1750 mA...at 40% charge
The kernel limits max current to 2800ma, but you can increase it with a custom kernel. It could be that your new charger is not properly supported.
2155X said:
The kernel limits max current to 2800ma, but you can increase it with a custom kernel. It could be that your new charger is not properly supported.
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Yeah probably
venkatkrishna_s said:
Yeahh ....I checked that also ...I measured the mA from mi charger ..it was 2800-2900 mA ..the new charger gives about 1650-1750 mA...at 40% charge
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What is temperature of the phone? Check this post and see if keeping your phone around 25 Celsius increase charging speed.
katoda_ltd said:
What is temperature of the phone? Check this post and see if keeping your phone around 25 Celsius increase charging speed.
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I posted that.... After doing that ..I posted it .. Anyways thanks for coming back and addressing it
Geez, stupid me. Must pay more attention to a post's author, this situation is simply hilarious
katoda_ltd said:
What is temperature of the phone? Check this post and see if keeping your phone around 25 Celsius increase charging speed.
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Temperature is just a part of the variables. Other variable to consider which was not stated was voltage.
QC 3.0 spec shows that it can charge at a voltage between 3.2V to 20V by doing +/- 200mV increment/decrement. Looking at the current alone is incomplete.
3DRIAN said:
Temperature is just a part of the variables. Other variable to consider which was not stated was voltage.
QC 3.0 spec shows that it can charge at a voltage between 3.2V to 20V by doing +/- 200mV increment/decrement. Looking at the current alone is incomplete.
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Can anyone tell me quickcharge 4.0 charger?
The stock charger says it gives output of 18 watt . But in my case maximum ouput goes to 1.5-2 amp/3.5-4volts which is very less . It would be helpfull if anyone tells how to get 9volts or 12 volts.
Kriss21999 said:
The stock charger says it gives output of 18 watt . But in my case maximum ouput goes to 1.5-2 amp/3.5-4volts which is very less . It would be helpfull if anyone tells how to get 9volts or 12 volts.
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Are you on stock rom or custom rom?
Stock
MIUI 11.0.9
If you are ok with rooting your device. I can tell you how to do so.
1. Root your device.
2. Install Advance charging control app(AccA) .
Link- https://f-droid.org/packages/mattecarra.accapp/
3. Give root permission.
Done.
(Don't install the magisk module app will work fine without it. The magisk module is installed and forget kind of module which you cannot modify to your own need)
Now you can set the speed you want (if your device suppots the spped you typed in it).
Its not just that, you can limit the charging % after which the charger automatically disconnects. I find it very helpful when i charge my device overnight. Automatically disconnects after 95%.
It also looks at your thermal of your battery. You can set your own temp % after which it starts cooling down by limiting the current/volt to the battery.
I personally suggest this app.
Thanks to @VR25.
Hope it works for you.
Thanks . Will try it.
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Thanks . Will try it.
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So, what was the maximum voltage you could set using Advance charging control app?
i.e what is the max voltage limit of poco f1
Also do you have any other charger than the stock one?
Charging cable issue?
Mine had issue with the charging cable.. tried with other charging cable it worked properly.. original charging xable got damaged witin 4 months of use..
besap18 said:
Are you on stock rom or custom rom?
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Change cable, then change charger. Usually its either of those two. If it works, good. If not then it might be an issue with the software try to reflash (backup first). Worst case scenario it's the port
The issue is solved for me (Stock Rom ) . Bought new cable upto 3amp . Charged 87% in one hour (screen off) .
Tip : Keep the temperature below 35 degrees .
Xe1503 said:
So, what was the maximum voltage you could set using Advance charging control app?
i.e what is the max voltage limit of poco f1
Also do you have any other charger than the stock one?
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I dint tried advance charging control ,Changing cable worked for me . And i have stock 18 watt charger , Maximum voltage goes upto 4.856.
Kriss21999 said:
I dint tried advance charging control ,Changing cable worked for me . And i have stock 18 watt charger , Maximum voltage goes upto 4.856.
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How do you know the voltage is 4.856? Do you have usb meter?
Xe1503 said:
So, what was the maximum voltage you could set using Advance charging control app?
i.e what is the max voltage limit of poco f1
Also do you have any other charger than the stock one?
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Don't know about other charges but i use stock charger and mine charges fully within 45-55 mins(0-100).
Stock charger brick is only fast charger 3 whereas our poco supports fast charge 4.
You can try ambrane or razer fast charger 4 brick for charging your device faster than stock charger
Xe1503 said:
How do you know the voltage is 4.856? Do you have usb meter?
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Use Advance Charging control App. It gives you volts as well mAh speed by which your phone is charging or discharging.
Xe1503 said:
How do you know the voltage is 4.856? Do you have usb meter?
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There are many applications on playstore to check.
Ex:- AMPERE , ACCUBATTERY
Kriss21999 said:
There are many applications on playstore to check.
Ex:- AMPERE , ACCUBATTERY
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As I suspected, you're aren't aware what the ampere app is for.
Here take this for starters:
https://youtu.be/PvgLEii7f0w
The ampere app is for........amperes, it does not show charging voltage. It's the battery's voltage. Same is the case for accubattery.
I use Franco kernel manager app from playstore and it shows watts, which is at least somewhat believable.
I don't know about ACCA because it doesn't work without root and works on very specific phones.
Try with Franco kernel manager app(root not required) and check the watt.
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besap18 said:
Don't know about other charges but i use stock charger and mine charges fully within 45-55 mins(0-100).
Stock charger brick is only fast charger 3 whereas our poco supports fast charge 4.
You can try ambrane or razer fast charger 4 brick for charging your device faster than stock charger
Use Advance Charging control App. It gives you volts as well mAh speed by which your phone is charging or discharging.
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You mean *1 hour* 45-55 mins(0-100)?
POCO F1 has 4000 mah, or 4.0 A * 3.7 v = 14.8 Wh, so if you charge your phone at 14.8 W for 1 hour then it will go 0-100%
or it will take 1 hour to charge your phone from 0% to 100% if you charge at a constant 14.8 watt. Which never happens, because hardware thermal throttling and software thermal throttling, after 30-50% the watts will go down, in the last 80-90% it will really be low. Even if you remove all thermal throttling and charge your phone in ice cubes, still because it's a 18 WATT QC 3 charger, it cannot charge in 45-55 mins.
What you're saying is most certainly impossible. Either that or your numbers aren't accurate, like it wasn't from 0-100% maybe 25-90% or it wasn't 45-55 min , maybe an hour and a half or you don't use the stock 18 watt qc 3 charger, or your battery is defective or you don't have a poco f1..
Xe1503 said:
How do you know the voltage is 4.856? Do you have usb meter?
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Xe1503 said:
As I suspected, you're aren't aware what the ampere app is for.
Here take this for starters:
https://youtu.be/PvgLEii7f0w
The ampere app is for........amperes, it does not show charging voltage. It's the battery's voltage. Same is the case for accubattery.
I use Franco kernel manager app from playstore and it shows watts, which is at least somewhat believable.
I don't know about ACCA because it doesn't work without root and works on very specific phones.
Try with Franco kernel manager app(root not required) and check the watt.
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You mean *1 hour* 45-55 mins(0-100)?
POCO F1 has 4000 mah, or 4.0 A * 3.7 v = 14.8 Wh, so if you charge your phone at 14.8 W for 1 hour then it will go 0-100%
or it will take 1 hour to charge your phone from 0% to 100% if you charge at a constant 14.8 watt. Which never happens, because hardware thermal throttling and software thermal throttling, after 30-50% the watts will go down, in the last 80-90% it will really be low. Even if you remove all thermal throttling and charge your phone in ice cubes, still because it's a 18 WATT QC 3 charger, it cannot charge in 45-55 mins.
What you're saying is most certainly impossible. Either that or your numbers aren't accurate, like it wasn't from 0-100% maybe 25-90% or it wasn't 45-55 min , maybe an hour and a half or you don't use the stock 18 watt qc 3 charger, or your battery is defective or you don't have a poco f1..
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Thanks for explaining , understood now.