I have had a Note 3 SE for a while and the screen got internally damaged, since I was told there isn't replacement panel for sale I need a new phone, is it still a good buy to get a new one, since the normal version isn't available and IDK how much progress was done on making custom Roms compatible, this is usually a problem for me but I'm not sure if there's another option in the same price points and specs... and I game a lot so the difference between the 650 and the lesser variations is big
what do you guys think
Very good development, better gaming performance than rn4. Best for the bucks. Go for it again.
*Just bought my kenzo 2 weeks ago
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I have had a Note 3 SE for a while and the screen got internally damaged, since I was told there isn't replacement panel for sale I need a new phone, is it still a good buy to get a new one, since the normal version isn't available and IDK how much progress was done on making custom Roms compatible, this is usually a problem for me but I'm not sure if there's another option in the same price points and specs... and I game a lot so the difference between the 650 and the lesser variations is big
what do you guys think
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If custom roms are important for you, then it's a good choice. But if you want the best specs for the money, then there's a discount from time to time on gearbest for Zuk Z2. It gets then to around 180usd.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
If you can wait a little, the Note 4 SE is already in pre-sale and will be available on the 8th of March.
It features a Snapdragon 625 (a little slower than Note 3 SE but better battery life) and LTE band 20.
You can find it on Honorbuy for 205 Euro, it will be shipped from the warehouse in Italy, so no additional taxes if you life in the EU.
i bought it recently... but it's perfect. of course the 4x is better in battery life but it's a young device, no roms etc.
but hey it does have 20/25% more battery life.....
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If you can wait a little, the Note 4 SE is already in pre-sale and will be available on the 8th of March.
It features a Snapdragon 625 (a little slower than Note 3 SE but better battery life) and LTE band 20.
You can find it on Honorbuy for 205 Euro, it will be shipped from the warehouse in Italy, so no additional taxes if you life in the EU.
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625 has weaker GPU, which doesn't set well with me...
Dear All I have a choice between these 2 but have completely no idea whats the difference. They both have Snapdragon 625 and 4GB RAM and 64GB ROM is there any other difference? like camera lens or maybe quality of the RAM?
thanks for help
There is no such phone as Xiaomi Note 4 DS or Xiaomi Note 4 PRO.
There is Redmi Note 4, Redmi Note 4 Global and Redmi Note 4x.
Variant with Snapdragon 625 SoC = codename Mido, and variant with Mediatek Helio SoC = codename Nikel.
There aren't any big differences between them, what camera sensor, screen and fingerprint manufacturer you get is completely random, homever if you need Band 20 LTE you should buy Redmi Note 4 Global, because Redmi Note 4x is missing this band.
You should buy model with Snapdragon 625 SoC, overall it's far superior. (amazing support on XDA, no overheating, much better battery life compared to Mediatek)
actually its nice that you are from Poland because Im too and below you will find some links to polish shoe at which they offer these under those names
www/empik/com/smartfon-xiaomi-redmi-note-4-ds-lte-xiaomi,p1170157857,elektronika-p
www/empik/com/smartfon-xiaomi-redmi-note-4-pro-xiaomi,p1172122183,elektronika-p
By what they wrote in the product description I cannot figure out which is which
sorry for slashes in a place of dots in web address but apparently I cannot post links as a new member
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actually its nice that you are from Poland because Im too and below you will find some links to polish shoe at which they offer these under those names
www/empik/com/smartfon-xiaomi-redmi-note-4-ds-lte-xiaomi,p1170157857,elektronika-p
www/empik/com/smartfon-xiaomi-redmi-note-4-pro-xiaomi,p1172122183,elektronika-p
By what they wrote in the product description I cannot figure out which is which
sorry for slashes in a place of dots in web address but apparently I cannot post links as a new member
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You want the one from first link then, it supports LTE 800MHz which means it's Redmi Note 4 Global, and since you are from Poland you need this LTE band.
Along with a lot of you I was hoping Xiaomi would release the global version of the Redmi K20 Pro/Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro on Wednesday, June 12th, along with the release of the global version of the Xiaomi Mi 9T in Europe. As we know it didn't happen. I live in the United States so need the global version of these phones as they have more frequency bands opened up. Earlier today I was reading comments on the GSMArena website mentioning delays as to when that may happen. I can't verify any of this, but beside the editorial comments, it sounds like it's coming from someone who knows (or maybe a competitor). Here are the comments from TechNews:
12 Jun 2019
Guys I have a bad news for you.
Apparently, someone in Xiaomi revealed that Redmi K20 pro or the Mi 9T pro won't be launch globally, not in Jun nor July. Why? Because they ran out of stock. Qualcomm cannot meet with the heavy demand of phone manufacturers that wants their SD855 chips, and this affect Xiaomi that relies on high number of sales to cover for profit. This all happened because Xiaomi sold over 200 000 units of K20 pro on the 1st day of their launch and now, they only have few left.. manufacturing more to meet the global demand would require 2 months at least and thats why the probability of this k20 pro to launch globally in July is slim.. if there is any, there would only be the lowest version, 6gb ram and 64/128gb rom.
I know it sucks. So for those who cannot wait, just buy something else. K20 pro is not worth the wait.
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Further info for this, Xiaomi Malaysia just revealed that the earliest they can launch the Mi 9T Pro is late August. Xiaomi India also confirms that they will only bring in the Redmi K20 during July launch, and sadly no K20 pro for India. Expected launch of k20 pro is also late August for india. The only choice for those who can't wait for 2 months, is to buy the bloatware-full China version K20 pro with only a few number of units left available.. Then again, I suggest you guys look at other phones. By the time k20 pro or the Mi 9T pro launch globally, there will be a number of other flagship killer that surpass it's specs. Just like what happened to poco f1. I'm not trying to ruin xiaomi, but this is just the truth.. this is how they play with the market.. they hold the global launch, and only few weeks after the launch, they will bring in another better specd smartphone, again, only exclusive for China, and continue doing the same thing, over and over...
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Along with a lot of you I was hoping Xiaomi would release the global version of the Redmi K20 Pro/Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro on Wednesday, June 12th, along with the release of the global version of the Xiaomi Mi 9T in Europe. As we know it didn't happen. I live in the United States so need the global version of these phones as they have more frequency bands opened up. Earlier today I was reading comments on the GSMArena website mentioning delays as to when that may happen. I can't verify any of this, but beside the editorial comments, it sounds like it's coming from someone who knows (or maybe a competitor). Here are the comments from TechNews:
12 Jun 2019
Guys I have a bad news for you.
Apparently, someone in Xiaomi revealed that Redmi K20 pro or the Mi 9T pro won't be launch globally, not in Jun nor July. Why? Because they ran out of stock. Qualcomm cannot meet with the heavy demand of phone manufacturers that wants their SD855 chips, and this affect Xiaomi that relies on high number of sales to cover for profit. This all happened because Xiaomi sold over 200 000 units of K20 pro on the 1st day of their launch and now, they only have few left.. manufacturing more to meet the global demand would require 2 months at least and thats why the probability of this k20 pro to launch globally in July is slim.. if there is any, there would only be the lowest version, 6gb ram and 64/128gb rom.
I know it sucks. So for those who cannot wait, just buy something else. K20 pro is not worth the wait.
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Further info for this, Xiaomi Malaysia just revealed that the earliest they can launch the Mi 9T Pro is late August. Xiaomi India also confirms that they will only bring in the Redmi K20 during July launch, and sadly no K20 pro for India. Expected launch of k20 pro is also late August for india. The only choice for those who can't wait for 2 months, is to buy the bloatware-full China version K20 pro with only a few number of units left available.. Then again, I suggest you guys look at other phones. By the time k20 pro or the Mi 9T pro launch globally, there will be a number of other flagship killer that surpass it's specs. Just like what happened to poco f1. I'm not trying to ruin xiaomi, but this is just the truth.. this is how they play with the market.. they hold the global launch, and only few weeks after the launch, they will bring in another better specd smartphone, again, only exclusive for China, and continue doing the same thing, over and over...
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Yes sounds about right,I was interested in the mi 9 when it was first announced,then that disappeared for a few months,now the k20 pro is disappearing as well,
Dont they know demand is highest when a new device is first announced,ah well on to the next one, Poco f2 perhaps
I live in Canada and I have ordered one from AliExpress Chinese version 8/256 GB . Let's see how well it works
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I live in Canada and I have ordered one from AliExpress Chinese version 8/256 GB . Let's see how well it works
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You don't have to guess. Scroll down the page and set the Network Compatibility to Canada to see your carrier and you'll know. Same for other countries. https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-redmi-k20-pro-8gb-256gb-cn I have AT&T in the US which just has 1 band available. The global Xiaomi Mi 9T has 3 bands.
BTW I'd get that same phone too if the global version was the same price. But it may cost close to $100 USD more than the Chinese version you bought. Even the Xiaomi Mi 9T global version of the Redmi K20 for the 6GB/128GB will be $416 USD. While the Chinese version sells for $354 USD.
Kinda skeptical about this, because obviously Mi prepared ample stock here in China, for all variants and all colors. Unlike past Xiaomi flagships, ever since its release, most of the variants are outright available for purchase everyday on every platform (save for 8+256 on certain sites), even now. To me it looks like we're way past the shortage of SD855 and Xiaomi is ready to deliver 24/7.
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Kinda skeptical about this, because obviously Mi prepared ample stock here in China, for all variants and all colors. Unlike past Xiaomi flagships, ever since its release, most of the variants are outright available for purchase everyday on every platform (save for 8+256 on certain sites), even now. To me it looks like we're way past the shortage of SD855 and Xiaomi is ready to deliver 24/7.
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Yeah but when you say "most of the variants are available for purchase every day" that doesn't include a global version, which hasn't been released, and is the one I need for extra frequency bands. I don't know about the chip shortage. Sounds possible as they've already sold a ton of these phones. But I'll just wait and see how things play out. Hopefully the global version, if and when it's released, will be affordable. If it's in the $500 + USD range I certainly won't refer to it as a "flagship killer".
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You don't have to guess. Scroll down the page and set the Network Compatibility to Canada to see your carrier and you'll know. Same for other countries. https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-redmi-k20-pro-8gb-256gb-cn I have AT&T in the US which just has 1 band available. The global Xiaomi Mi 9T has 3 bands.
BTW I'd get that same phone too if the global version was the same price. But it may cost close to $100 USD more than the Chinese version you bought. Even the Xiaomi Mi 9T global version of the Redmi K20 for the 6GB/128GB will be $416 USD. While the Chinese version sells for $354 USD.
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I had the pocophone F1 which had similar bands and the necessary missing LTE bands . But it worked flawlessly on Rogers /Telus with full LTE coverage and no loss in speeds. I travelled to remote areas with no loss in connectivity.
If pocophone F1 was fine , I don't see no reason why k20 pro will perform any worse.
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I had the pocophone F1 which had similar bands and the necessary missing LTE bands . But it worked flawlessly on Rogers /Telus with full LTE coverage and no loss in speeds. I travelled to remote areas with no loss in connectivity.
If pocophone F1 was fine , I don't see no reason why k20 pro will perform any worse.
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Thanks for sharing that. That's interesting. I just looked up your info for both phones and actually the connectivity is the same with the B7 (2600) band the one available in Canada for your carrier. Please keep us updated on how that goes. I had bought a Redmi Note 7 Pro from a Chinese seller on eBay but ended up returning it by forwarding it to someone else he sold it too as I was afraid it wouldn't work because of the band restrictions. And returning things to China from the US is a major expensive hassle. I wish this would become available on Amazon. They have a 30 day full refund policy as long as the sale is fulfilled by them. That way if it didn't work I could just return it. But they never did carry the Redmi Note 7 Pro as it wasn't the global version, so they may not carry this one either. We'll see what happens. Has anyone here ever returned anything to AliExpress or any of the companies selling this now? How did the return go? Thanks.
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Thanks for sharing that. That's interesting. I just looked up your info for both phones and actually the connectivity is the same with the B7 (2600) band the one available in Canada for your carrier. Please keep us updated on how that goes. I had bought a Redmi Note 7 Pro from a Chinese seller on eBay but ended up returning it by forwarding it to someone else he sold it too as I was afraid it wouldn't work because of the band restrictions. And returning things to China from the US is a major expensive hassle. I wish this would become available on Amazon. They have a 30 day full refund policy as long as the sale is fulfilled by them. That way if it didn't work I could just return it. But they never did carry the Redmi Note 7 Pro as it wasn't the global version, so they may not carry this one either. We'll see what happens. Has anyone here ever returned anything to AliExpress or any of the companies selling this now? How did the return go? Thanks.
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I am planning to do a review as soon I get the phone . Hopefully it works as expected especially after spending close to CAD $700
Unfortunately AliExpress doesn't return phones unless they are DOA. Even than there is not guarantee the sellers will take phone back.
After doing a bit of research I see that my network in Ireland is only giving me 3g hspa+ speeds because it is s smaller network that only uses one of the country s bigger networks Three Ireland,I see the k20 pro support the bands I need,
I'm still a bit hesitant,I should have no problem rite,without band 20,Having never imported a phone before,
What else should I be looking for ?
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After doing a bit of research I see that my network in Ireland is only giving me 3g hspa+ speeds because it is s smaller network that only uses one of the country s bigger networks Three Ireland,I see the k20 pro support the bands I need,
I'm still a bit hesitant,I should have no problem rite,without band 20,Having never imported a phone before,
What else should I be looking for ?
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I couldn't tell you for sure. But I did look this up too and Three Ireland gets band B3 (1800) 4G with this phone. But that's the only band. But with the global version of the Redmi K20/Xiaomi Mi 9T announced on Wednesday, Three Ireland gets B3 (1800) and B20 (800) and it's less expensive. https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-mi-9t-6gb-128gb If you don't know you can look up the differences in these two phones which are discussed in many places like GSM Arena, many videos on YouTube, etc. I've considered that phone too. So we'll see how things unfold. There's no guarantee they'll release a global version of this phone. Haven't heard any announcements one way or the other.
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I couldn't tell you for sure. But I did look this up too and Three Ireland gets band B3 (1800) 4G with this phone. But that's the only band. But with the global version of the Redmi K20/Xiaomi Mi 9T announced on Wednesday, Three Ireland gets B3 (1800) and B20 (800) and it's less expensive. https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-mi-9t-6gb-128gb If you don't know you can look up the differences in these two phones which are discussed in many places like GSM Arena, many videos on YouTube, etc. I've considered that phone too. So we'll see how things unfold. There's no guarantee they'll release a global version of this phone. Haven't heard any announcements one way or the other.
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Yea,seems the global is not happening or at least not any time soon,The 9T is appealing also,but am certainly used to my flagship performance at this stage and there would be a bit of a downgrade there,my current 6T has 6/128,Am only interested in the xiaomi for the cameras mostly,bigger battery,better fingerprint. Would certainly like the extra ram)storage 8/256 if possible,
Anyway,think I might hold off for a few months to see what happens,maybe the Poco f2 will be similar to the k20 pro.Will wait and see
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After doing a bit of research I see that my network in Ireland is only giving me 3g hspa+ speeds because it is s smaller network that only uses one of the country s bigger networks Three Ireland,I see the k20 pro support the bands I need,
I'm still a bit hesitant,I should have no problem rite,without band 20,Having never imported a phone before,
What else should I be looking for ?
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Just looking at the 3 major mobile networks of Ireland, they all use a good mix of LTE bands 1, 3, 8 and 20. Only band 20 is missing from the K20 Pro, so I'd be very surprised if you had issues with connectivity. Bands 8 and 20 are relatively low frequency bands, these are more 'robust' and can travel longer distances and penetrate walls better, but they have lower bandwidth, so have slower speeds. They are generally used, when a network has a mix of low and high frequency bands, in more rural areas or to give extra coverage in heavily built areas where some substantial buildings could stop line of sight to many areas. If band 20 was the only low frequency band available to you, then you might have trouble out in the sticks, but having band 8 should keep you covered in all areas.
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Just looking at the 3 major mobile networks of Ireland, they all use a good mix of LTE bands 1, 3, 8 and 20. Only band 20 is missing from the K20 Pro, so I'd be very surprised if you had issues with connectivity. Bands 8 and 20 are relatively low frequency bands, these are more 'robust' and can travel longer distances and penetrate walls better, but they have lower bandwidth, so have slower speeds. They are generally used, when a network has a mix of low and high frequency bands, in more rural areas or to give extra coverage in heavily built areas where some substantial buildings could stop line of sight to many areas. If band 20 was the only low frequency band available to you, then you might have trouble out in the sticks, but having band 8 should keep you covered in all areas.
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Thanks for the reply,but seems where I am rural Ireland base 20 is important somewhat but I'm not sure I'm not it would affect me too much,I would be happy now buying the phone based on it not having base 20,
I've since been looking at other videos and my new concern is being stuck with a Chinese rom filled with bloat. Im quite happy with my 6T now in terms of software and I know I can rely on OTAs and future Android versions,I'm not one for tinkering my phone's much these days and need the phone to be useable at all times. Think being stuck on the Chinese rom might drive me crazy,I know you can remove the bloat fairly easily but am worried about OTAs and support which I think is important for any phone
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Thanks for the reply,but seems where I am rural Ireland base 20 is important somewhat but I'm not sure I'm not it would affect me too much,I would be happy now buying the phone based on it not having base 20,
I've since been looking at other videos and my new concern is being stuck with a Chinese rom filled with bloat. Im quite happy with my 6T now in terms of software and I know I can rely on OTAs and future Android versions,I'm not one for tinkering my phone's much these days and need the phone to be useable at all times. Think being stuck on the Chinese rom might drive me crazy,I know you can remove the bloat fairly easily but am worried about OTAs and support which I think is important for any phone
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Xiaomi.eu should have a global ROM out soon, if it's not already. They remove all bloat and adds and make MIUI more bearable. A few months down the line and you'll see more alternative ROMS. I'm sure LineageOS will have an official build along the way, they have nightly builds with OTA.
What about k20 pro in germany?
In that website, I can see that K20 pro supports 4 out of 6 bands in Germany. (B20 and B32 are missing in the device). Will this be a problem in germany?
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In that website, I can see that K20 pro supports 4 out of 6 bands in Germany. (B20 and B32 are missing in the device). Will this be a problem in germany?
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Depends on carrier and city. I need B20 for the O² net.
Is there any way to unlock the full LTE frequencies on the K20 Pro on the China version (especially B20)?
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Xiaomi.eu should have a global ROM out soon, if it's not already. They remove all bloat and adds and make MIUI more bearable. A few months down the line and you'll see more alternative ROMS. I'm sure LineageOS will have an official build along the way, they have nightly builds with OTA.
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No too sure about this.They've already canceled global beta
Why would they release a global rom for a phone they're not releasing globally possible but certainly not definite
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No too sure about this.They've already canceled global beta
Why would they release a global rom for a phone they're not releasing globally possible but certainly not definite
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Xiaomi.eu are an unofficial group of MIUI fans who create global versions of MIUI. They take the stock Chinese MIUI ROMS, remove bloat and unnecessary Chinese apps, add multiple languages and a whole host of other customizations and release it to the world. It is all done by a dedicated development team off volunteers. It's not actually done by Xiaomi, although I believe Xiaomi do collaborate with them occasionally.
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Xiaomi.eu are an unofficial group of MIUI fans who create global versions of MIUI. They take the stock Chinese MIUI ROMS, remove bloat and unnecessary Chinese apps, add multiple languages and a whole host of other customizations and release it to the world. It is all done by a dedicated development team off volunteers. It's not actually done by Xiaomi, although I believe Xiaomi do collaborate with them occasionally.
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Oh Ok ,cheers ,didn't know that ,good to know