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Is it somehow possible to log onto a wifi network with the phone, and at the same time create a hotspot that other devices can log on to, and use the primary wifi connection as tether? This would be the ultimate android function!
DylanYoung said:
Is it somehow possible to log onto a wifi network with the phone, and at the same time create a hotspot that other devices can log on to, and use the primary wifi connection as tether? This would be the ultimate android function!
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I don't think so. This sort of negates the purpose of the hotspot function. If you have a wifi connection on your phone, then that same wifi connection is available to other devices. If this is the case, why do you need ANOTHER hotspot? Besides, I think the hotspot needs the wifi radio to serve up the hotspot. I'm not sure, but I don't think it can do that and connect to another wifi connection at the same time.
This would be the ultimate hack. It would solve alot of problems for a number of people.
DylanYoung said:
This would be the ultimate hack. It would solve alot of problems for a number of people.
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I don't think you understand what I've said.
I'm not certain any software hack would do this. I'm pretty sure you would need two wifi radios to do this. One to receive/transmit to/from whatever hotspot your phone is connected to, and one to receive/transmit as the active hotspot of the phone. There is only one wifi radio in the phone, so.... ?
And I'm curious: what "alot of problems for a number of people" are you talking about?
DylanYoung said:
Is it somehow possible to log onto a wifi network with the phone, and at the same time create a hotspot that other devices can log on to, and use the primary wifi connection as tether? This would be the ultimate android function!
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I think you are misunderstanding between android wifi cards and PC cards.PC wifi cards can do this work while mobile phones does not because they simply don't have the same hardware.Windows vista/7/8 for example can create hotspot and connect to another network at the same time without problems but mobile phones (not a problem with Android OS) cannot.
The limitation in most mobile devices is the number of antennas - and this is why we can't use Hotspot while connecting to another WiFi network.
Most PC WiFi cards have minimum of 2 antennas, so they can use one for connecting and one for Hotspot. Mobile phones usually have only one antenna, and this is why they can either connect to a foreign SID, or transmit their own SID.
RedBull2001 said:
The limitation in most mobile devices is the number of antennas - and this is why we can't use Hotspot while connecting to another WiFi network.
Most PC WiFi cards have minimum of 2 antennas, so they can use one for connecting and one for Hotspot. Mobile phones usually have only one antenna, and this is why they can either connect to a foreign SID, or transmit their own SID.
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The point is, tethering does not use antenna. In other word we just want to use android device as wifi router while mobile data is not available and our PC don't have wifi antenna
The problem is tethering need to enable with wifi hotspot and it then disable wifi even the tethering does not use antenna. Understand situation now? I think this is more like a bug
Another problem I face is. I want to use my android phone as wifi hotspot. But then I want to use ES file explorer to browse into target device. And It can't find any device while I am being the hotspot myself. I should able to see all device connect to me as I'm the server but I can't. Because when I'm being wifi hotspot I need to disconnect myself from lan network and that's suck
Hotspot and Wi-Fi at the same time
I'll tell you what problems it would solve for my fiance and myself... We live in an area that is rural and surrounded by reservation land. There is no way to get internet here except through our mobile hotspots via our phone provider and the tower less than a mile away. We also use Chromecast and a canon pixma cloud ready printer, however, in order to connect to them, we must turn on our hotspots, yet the printer and chromecast force the Wi-Fi to come on when trying to connect, which then
I'm not certain any software hathen automatically turns the hotspots off, and visa~versa. If allowed to have both on at the same time, connection would be optimal. I've found a way to trick chromecast, but I have to be quick, however, I still cannot connect to the printer. Rather than having every product company change how the connection works, it would be much easier for the two functions to work together if we want them to, without one shutting the other down. That's an example of a problem it would solve.
And I'm curious: what "alot of problems for a number of people" are you talking about?[/QUOTE]
hotspot &wifi simultaneously.
I have the same situation. Do not want to buy yet another device to be able to use chromecast, or any other devices that require both internet access and WiFi! My internet access is my hotspot! Any new info on this? I am rural as well, no cable etc, and my satellite provider has no service even "way out here!" Ha ha
DylanYoung said:
Is it somehow possible to log onto a wifi network with the phone, and at the same time create a hotspot that other devices can log on to, and use the primary wifi connection as tether? This would be the ultimate android function!
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This is possible on windows OS with wifi adapter of inbuild device.. but dont know how to accomplish the same on android
Got the Solution Guys!
I suggest you to Use Alcatel OT918N
It must be rooted and having a Custom Rom
(Usually so Easy)
And Then Enjoy a Normal Wifi and A Hotspot At the same Time!!!
Enjoy!!!
Btw The Alcatel OT918N is popularly known as Idea 3G Smartfone Id918 in India!!!
Apple product do this already. When visiting client offices I had to connected my computer to the hotspot regularly because no one knew the password to the wifi. Really seems like a no-brainer, but apparently Google missed the obvious.
Try NetShare - no-root-tethering on the Play Store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kha.prog.mikrotik
Haha, I also had this thought back in 2011 when I bought my SGSII.
I had tried before and it doesn't work.
I am not sure with other devices, but for SGSII, the answer is "No".
Best regard
Aren't we all glad this is now possible... Like with the OnePlus8 Pro
So I guess I have to choose between WIFI calling and Download Booster.
Any workaround?
crazeco said:
So I guess I have to choose between WIFI calling and Download Booster.
Any workaround?
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you don't need to choose between the two...i'm using both right now.
the only thing is that you have to turn on the Download Booster while you're on cellular, not already on Wifi.
SF Steven said:
you don't need to choose between the two...i'm using both right now.
the only thing is that you have to turn on the Download Booster while you're on cellular, not already on Wifi.
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How do you have both running at the same time if you disabled WIFI? I.e. you're saying you are on your cellular connection, not WIFI, and you click on Download Booster to turn it on. So it automatically disables WIFI Calling while you are using it.
I want to stay on WIFI, have WIFI calling enabled, and have Download Booster enabled. Otherwise, you're only using one at a time, right?
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How do you have both running at the same time if you disabled WIFI? I.e. you're saying you are on your cellular connection, not WIFI, and you click on Download Booster to turn it on. So it automatically disables WIFI Calling while you are using it.
I want to stay on WIFI, have WIFI calling enabled, and have Download Booster enabled. Otherwise, you're only using one at a time, right?
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first turn off Wifi, next enable download booster, then turn on wifi.
then you have wifi calling and download booster both enabled.
that said, i don't know if you can use download booster (i.e., both cellular and Wifi) to download WHILE you're on a wifi call.
my hunch is that the phone will prioritize the call over the download but i'm no developer and couldn't even tell you where to look to confirm.
SF Steven said:
first turn off Wifi, next enable download booster, then turn on wifi.
then you have wifi calling and download booster both enabled.
that said, i don't know if you can use download booster (i.e., both cellular and Wifi) to download WHILE you're on a wifi call.
my hunch is that the phone will prioritize the call over the download but i'm no developer and couldn't even tell you where to look to confirm.
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When I do it your way, my download booster icon now appears in the status bar, but it has a no symbol icon next to it (i.e. no smoking sign icon). When I disable WIFI calling, that no symbol icon goes away.
crazeco said:
When I do it your way, my download booster icon now appears in the status bar, but it has a no symbol icon next to it (i.e. no smoking sign icon). When I disable WIFI calling, that no symbol icon goes away.
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i'm out of ideas. sorry.
Why use wifi calling and the download booster at the same time?
- Wifi calling is meant to be used when you have weak or no cell signal.
- Download Booster is meant to combine your LTE and Wifi connection to allow faster downloads for large files.
If you have a strong enough LTE signal to warrant use of the Download Booster. Then you have plenty of signal for making calls.
The only reason I can think of, is that making a phone call will drop your LTE connection while you are on the phone. Negating the benefits of the Download Booster.
followinginsanity said:
Why use wifi calling and the download booster at the same time?
- Wifi calling is meant to be used when you have weak or no cell signal.
- Download Booster is meant to combine your LTE and Wifi connection to allow faster downloads for large files.
If you have a strong enough LTE signal to warrant use of the Download Booster. Then you have plenty of signal for making calls.
The only reason I can think of, is that making a phone call will drop your LTE connection while you are on the phone. Negating the benefits of the Download Booster.
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That's not my point.
I can't have both enabled at the same time. I actually have to go into settings to turn off WIFI calling in order to make Download Booster work. There's no way to let the system auto-select which one to use at any given time, based on what I'm doing. You have to choose which one you want enabled and ensure you manually disable the other.
FWIW, I use WIFI calling to supplement my mobile minutes, since I'm on the 100min/5GB plan.
Unless they have changed it very recently. Wifi Calling uses your plan minutes same as if you were placing a call through the cellular network.
Just don't want you to burn through your minutes, thinking that Wifi Calling means free minutes.
followinginsanity said:
Unless they have changed it very recently. Wifi Calling uses your plan minutes same as if you were placing a call through the cellular network.
Just don't want you to burn through your minutes, thinking that Wifi Calling means free minutes.
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Actually T-Mobile have been offering free wifi calling for some time now, you just have to add the service to your account.
You can do it yourself from my.t-mobile.com under plan > change services > extra minutes > free wifi calling.
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That is good to know if I switch from my unlimited plan.
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Hi everyone, I have a question that i can't quite seem to find an answer to any where i look.
I am a recent android convert, i had ios on my iphone and ipads for many years. I use a wireless hard drive that has its own wifi signal, which i connect my devices to. The problem with doing this is that the device thinks then that it should get all of its internet from that wifi connection, which of course, being a hard drive, it does not have.
To get around this what i have done is go in my IOS configuration and remove the "default gateway" or "router" or whatever you want to call it (depending on your networking background), and then iOS knows to go ahead and not use wifi and continue to send any non local traffic over LTE.
My Samsung Note 5 doesn't seem to want to do this. First thing, when i try to remove the router/gateway from the ip address configuration in wifi, the "save" button is grayed, meaning i cannot save a blank gateway. I located an app on the app store called "wifi settings" which was suggested to use to set the router to nothing, but still this did not work, really what it did was save a 1 in the router/gateway field and caused nothing to work, not even local traffic.
The Note 5 has a "smart network switch" option which is apparently to detect a poor wifi signal and switch to LTE, if i enable this, the phone does realize that the wifi connection to the wifi hdd doesn't have an internet connection, but terminates the wifi connection, thus killing my connection to my hard drive.
My question, does anyone know how to configure the wifi on android to access local resources via wifi while still using the 3g/4g connection for internet traffic?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks much.
Galaxy S10+, latest Android update from my carrier.
While hooked to any Wi-Fi that doesn't serve internet (my camper accessories, for example, are controlled by the wifi, but serves no internet connection), it allows very little data to function until I shut the wifi back off or end the connection to the camper.
I have my settings set up to keep mobile data active and also have aggressive wifi/mobile data handoff enabled.
Does anyone have a fix or any suggestions? It's really frustrating as I a few other devices that require a wifi connection to control but don't serve internet access.
Thanks in advance!
I had a very disappointing experience with my Tab S6 (LTE version) today. What happened is that we lost the internet connection, apparently the cable company had a neighborhood-wide outage. So, I figured, no big deal. I turned on the hotspot on my Tab S6 and on my laptop connected to the hotspot (instead of my home WiFi).
Well, no luck. Windows kept saying, “no internet”. I spent an hour trying to figure out why. Finally, I found the problem: my laptop was connecting to my Tab S6 and from there to my home WiFi… which had no internet. When I turned WiFi off, it then connected to mobile data and I had internet on my laptop. It's funny because on the Tab S6 I could browse the web just fine, it was clearly using mobile data. But the hotspot was connecting to WiFi. BTW, by the time I had it figured out, the internet outage was over. ?
I noticed that on my old ZTE Axon 7, when I turn on the hotspot, it automatically turns off WiFi. It’s very disappointing that the Tab S6 doesn’t do that, it would have saved me an hour of intense frustration.
It’s really silly, when you think about it. Why would I need my hotspot to connect to my WiFi? On my laptop, I can connect directly to my WiFi, I don’t need the Tab S6’s hotspot feature for that. Hotspot should by default connect to mobile data.
Azra4 said:
I noticed that on my old ZTE Axon 7, when I turn on the hotspot, it automatically turns off WiFi. It’s very disappointing that the Tab S6 doesn’t do that, it would have saved me an hour of intense frustration.
It’s really silly, when you think about it. Why would I need my hotspot to connect to my WiFi? On my laptop, I can connect directly to my WiFi, I don’t need the Tab S6’s hotspot feature for that. Hotspot should by default connect to mobile data.
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First - Turning WIFI off would have been the thing that saved you an hour of intense frustration. :laugh:
But in all seriousness, WIFI could be useful to share a connection with something like a VPN active, surely? For example, I remember sharing a VPN connection through my OG Tab S with my Xbox so I could shop on the Turkish Xbox store, would prefer to do that via WIFI than Data, obviously, especially since I didn't have an LTE OG Tab S. I do remember having to have multiple apps to achieve sharing WIFI then.
So ultimately, I'd personally prefer they didn't disable WIFI whilst using Hotspot, better to have more options than less for when the occasion calls.
bartleby999 said:
First - Turning WIFI off would have been the thing that saved you an hour of intense frustration. :laugh:
But in all seriousness, WIFI could be useful to share a connection with something like a VPN active, surely? For example, I remember sharing a VPN connection through my OG Tab S with my Xbox so I could shop on the Turkish Xbox store, would prefer to do that via WIFI than Data, obviously, especially since I didn't have an LTE OG Tab S. I do remember having to have multiple apps to achieve sharing WIFI then.
So ultimately, I'd personally prefer they didn't disable WIFI whilst using Hotspot, better to have more options than less for when the occasion calls.
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Ahem, I said the system should turn off WiFi automatically because in the vast majority of cases, people would want the mobile hotspot to connect to mobile data. I didn't say "disable". I too like to have options.
Oh, and BTW, your scenario wouldn't work on the Tab S6 - it would connect you to WiFi bypassing the VPN. Duh!
Azra4 said:
Ahem, I said the system should turn off WiFi automatically because in the vast majority of cases, people would want the mobile hotspot to connect to mobile data. I didn't say "disable". I too like to have options.
Oh, and BTW, your scenario wouldn't work on the Tab S6 - it would connect you to WiFi bypassing the VPN. Duh!
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Meh. Disable, turn off - Same principle.
You're right, though - I remember now, that's why I mentioned needing multiple apps. Android natively won't share a VPN as far as I recall (it's been a while). You need another app that enables sharing VPN.