Verizon just reintroduced a new unlimited talk /text /data plan, $65 + $20 for one phone and it includes Canada and Mexico and if you autopay, you get an automatic $5 discount per month.
Free hotspot (10GB at 4gLTE speeds, then 3g speed after that per month)
Data MAY be throttled after 22GB in billing period.
500MB/day at 4gLTE then speed drops to 2g speeds in Canada and Mexico
It's actually saving me about $7/month over my old unlimited data + 450minute phone service.
I have never gone over 18GB in any one month, so.. I was finally convinced to drop my old unlimited data plan because I am getting more for less!
No idea how long this plan will be available.
Just an FYI
And no, I have no connection with verizon other than I am a customer.
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I'm still grandfathered in with 2 phones on the old data plan, was wondering about the details of this new plan. Appreciate the details!
I average 20 to 40 gigs per month and pay extra for the Canada/Mexico data talk plan. The idea of being throttled down scares me and especially when most my data usage is through my hotspot. Think it's best to stick it out. It's funny how hard verizon has tried to make me change plans lol
OffTheChainz said:
I'm still grandfathered in with 2 phones on the old data plan, was wondering about the details of this new plan. Appreciate the details!
I average 20 to 40 gigs per month and pay extra for the Canada/Mexico data talk plan. The idea of being throttled down scares me and especially when most my data usage is through my hotspot. Think it's best to stick it out. It's funny how hard verizon has tried to make me change plans lol
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They claim throttling only occurs if you use over 22GB, in the current billing period AND network congestion is occurring. However, they also say throttling will occur while using as a hotspot and you have over 10GB of tethering usage (in the current billing period). Both those throttle you to 3G speeds.
As to Canada, after 500MB in any one day, you will be throttled to 2G speeds for the rest of the day.
I too had a grandfathered unlimited data plan and a limit of 450 "prime time" minutes and 500 text messages. I never went over either limit. I use my RV 3 to 4 months a year, during those months use 12 to 16 GB of data using the hotspot (rooted unmonitored hotspot) other months only 2 or 3GB.
But..I have a son who lives in Canada but could only text from Canada for free, any other use was expensive.
So for ME, it was a no brainer. Lower my bill by about $7 but data, phone and text in Canada. And still get more unthrottled data than I have ever used.
I tried my hotspot a few days ago (same hotspot, not Verizon's standard hotspot app) and then checked by usage the next day. It showed zero tethering.
In your situation.. I'd be concerned about throttling too and wouldn't have switched.
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I am still on the grandfathered unlimited plan. I am going back and forth about switching. I have 2 lines, one mine and wife has the other. We are both heavy data users users with each phone probably in the the area of 60gb or more a month. Switching over would save some money but she is concerned about the throttling. For me, most of my data is done at home so it would be be easy for me to use the home wifi which is probably just a bit faster than mobile data but she uses a lot outside the house. Decisions, decisions...
But does anyone know if they will be throttling the grandfathered unlimited plan as well? If so, then it is a no brainer and the switch would be the better option...
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I am still on the grandfathered unlimited plan. I am going back and forth about switching. I have 2 lines, one mine and wife has the other. We are both heavy data users users with each phone probably in the the area of 60gb or more a month. Switching over would save some money but she is concerned about the throttling. For me, most of my data is done at home so it would be be easy for me to use the home wifi which is probably just a bit faster than mobile data but she uses a lot outside the house. Decisions, decisions...
But does anyone know if they will be throttling the grandfathered unlimited plan as well? If so, then it is a no brainer and the switch would be the better option...
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They have always said they will throttle the heaviest 5% of users and there have been recent posts on the internet that the heaviest grandfathered unlimited users are being forced off the unlimited plan, as in giving them a date to select another plan or lose all service. The reports I have seen were from users who use over 90GB a month.
I *suspect* they will continue to force grandfathered users to switch and/or raise the fees another $10 or $20 a month like they did 6 or so months ago.
Nothing official.. But I have read that grandfathered plans now are less than 1% of the total number of users.
Bottom line.. You roll the dice and take your chances.
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1% I feel like the last of the mohekins lol
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Still not getting folks being so high up with LTE considering most people that inhabit these boards will use the alloted data in the first few days of the month
3G seems fine for me and streaming higher band video content is a battery hog anyway. Speed is nice but IMO, a $30 3G unlimited data plan seems a far more pratical option for most people.
Allotted data? What are you talking about? Correct me if i'm wrong but you are merely assuming that Verizon won't have an unlimited 4G data plan for smartphones. I have seen no information suggesting that there will be no unlimited plan available.
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I hear that Verizon has plans to initially have unlimited LTE data plans for smartphones but they might change that in the future. I'm sure that Verizon's will throttle people's data if they reach 5 gb... Personally, I don't see why they don't simply charge extra for for LTE to allow it to be unlimited like Sprint does. I wouldn't mind paying 10 extra dollars a month for unlimited data from Verizon... I think that the problem with carriers is that they don't want people hogging their airwaves with their PS3, their laptop, and their little brother's iPod Touch tethered to the phone on their network with the "that's what your cable/dsl network is for" attitude. If they truly feel that way, they should start charging cable/dsl prices and remove the caps while using some of the money to build more towers so they won't have to worry about it. They have devices that they're getting ready to release that are capable of playing/streaming 1080p HD videos. I'd be pissed if I bought one of these smartphone//tablets and were only able two watch two or three videos the entire month. If they're gonna have devices that require a lot of bandwidth to reasonably perform to one's liking, the shouldn't release these devices until their networks are able to handle them being in the hands of the masses. It makes no sense to pay 40-50 dollars for internet at 4G speeds while paying 250-600+ for a device and have to go to find a hotspot to connect to wifi or connect to wifi at home.
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3G unlimited for $30 and LTE for $50 seems fare. That way, they get the revenue for folks using the service to update towers. I would say $40, but probably no way VZW would charge that for LTE.
If Verizon has unlimited LTE data for HTC Thunderbolt, they would get a lot of people to buy it. The question is would they get enough revenue to continue to keep it unlimited while upgrading their towers... It would be understandable if they put a 5 gb cap on the mobile hotspot feature because they wouldn't be able to sell their USB modems (which they charge mb and gb packages). But to not have unlimited LTE data from Verizon for a smartphone save the mobile hotspot feature is ridiculous imo. AT&T's LTE plans for the future include limited data and data speed to be purchased in tiers; Verizon can really keep them at bay with unlimited LTE data for strictly smartphones. The question is will Verizon compete directly with AT&T's LTE plans (match AT&T's plans). They reality is that they don't have to. They can make a more attractive unlimited LTE data plan and net more customers and "defectors" from AT&T while making them look like greedy money-hungry cornballs.
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Agreed bobbyseals. Verizon won't disappoint.
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Agreed bobbyseals. Verizon won't disappoint.
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Hopefully...
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Hopefully...
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http://phandroid.com/2011/02/02/rumor-verizon-4g-unlimited-data-plans-to-debut-at-29-99/
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if they allow me to keep 3g unlimited for 29.99 and make 4g an option I'll be happy cause there isn't many places covered by 4g anyway... I wont change from my incredible if its going to cost me 20 more a month
Agreed, and I live in 4g, and work on the LTE project.
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if they allow me to keep 3g unlimited for 29.99 and make 4g an option I'll be happy cause there isn't many places covered by 4g anyway... I wont change from my incredible if its going to cost me 20 more a month
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Good one, I want the Thunderbolt for the device and not so much for the LTE. That said, yes I can sit here at the office and run our LTE USB and get 20 - 25 mbps and run up 5 gigs in short fashion then really start paying out the wazoo, but RevA EVDO at 2 mbps I can do just fine watching HULU or teathering Skype with video or whatever which is fast enough. I might give a few bucks more for the LTE if it is unlimited, but never buy myself into a plan that caps my data and makes me pay more just to get a speed boost that I just do not need now.
If 3g would actually give me the speed its supposed to I wouldn't need 4g at all. I rarely get over 200kbps down on att's hspa network.
That would be dumb for them to charge same price as current data. How do they justify the 4G investment? that would be one red looking net present value business case
My guess is $45 (30 +15 premium).
Lets not forget Verizon is about to rake in tons of new subscribers while barely spending a dime in advertising (i*hone)
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Lets not forget Verizon is about to rake in tons of new subscribers while barely spending a dime in advertising (i*hone)
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From the new BestBuy leak there will be a $30 unlimited option on thunderbolt. Which would make me get it over the iphone. $30 for 4g would be amazing.
Ive played with the thunderbolt and honestly you will only notice the 4g when downloading.On web pages not so much.
so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
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so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
Before july 7th the unlimited data plan for $30 will have no cap which is a big plus for people who live in a 4g area. Starting on the 7th new customers will have to pick data packages what start with 2gb a month for $20 or $30. New plans suck.
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Existing plans will be grandfather in.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
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Currently with T-Mobile, they don't throttle you until you reach 5 gb. Some plans are different but being with T-Mobile for several years and NEVER been throttled, my plan is 5 gb. I am also going to switch to Verizon to take advantage of their data plan before they change.
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A lot more than tmobile (who has a 2gb cap before they throttle you).
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new t-mobile unlimited plans are 2gb for the special price, all others are still 5gb and they will throttle you (found out the first month).
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so is there anything like this with verizon ?
i m currently with tmobile and want to switch.
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Verizon's official position is that they may throttle those that are in the top 5% of data users, esp during peak data usage times. Only been with them a couple of weeks so not sure how hard ass they are. Haven't seen anyone complain.
I've only used about 4gb so far in 2 weeks.
I've been using about 10-15 gigs a month for the last 3 years and have never seen any cap,I'm sure they will start it when the new pricing plans start but I plan to keep my service the way it is.
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I have also been told by Verizon employees that plans in place before 7/7/11 will be grandfathered. If you don't have a VZW data plan yet but have been considering it, pull the trigger before the 7th.
I have not been able to confirm that the unlimited cap on grandfathered plans will be "for life" but this has been the general consensus from what I've heard.
so there is no data throttling on verizon as of now ! cause i might just use about 10 -15 gb of 4g in a month.
verizon throttles but that was 3G... not sure if that applies to 4G... yet.
6.6gb in third week and haven't been throttled. unlike the tmobile where i got throttled to 56k speeds.
I have never heard this 5% thing before. I am on a 3g only area and can say my data is getting throttled pretty rough. Been days since I got solid speeds and my girlfriends dinc, my old phone, is getting way better speeds. I am currently over 4.5 gb this month and she is under 2.5
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Good god what do you people do to use that much data? If I TRY to use a lot, I may use 4gb in a MONTH! I just don't find out practical to watch full movies on my phone... Sure a youtube video every now and then, but not a WHOLE movie. Talk about a battery killer...
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http://iosdroid.net/2011/06/22/details-of-verizons-new-data-plans/
Recently, in order to save battery whenever im home which is most of the time i switch off the 3G network and go on wifi. Since I dont have 4G coverage near my home yet its much better than running of 3G. not only has it been lowering my data usage which is small to begin with but been making my battery last forever. even on my extended battery.
I have a boring job and no super vision. plus I tether a lot...
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Well data flies when you tether,a movie on the phone might only be 300mb but the same flick on a pc it 2gb,anyway since I have been a vzw slave I have bounced as much a 20gb but average 10-15gb,i drive a truck and this is my internet,as far as speeds go some 3g markets are slow some are fast but I have never seen it throttled,as far as 4g goes fastest I have seen is phoenix, slowest was oklahoma city, los angeles is consistant all over the valley.
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I just switched to verizon yesterday after learning this so that I would be grandfathered in. I spoke to 2 different store reps and 1 online rep and they all confirmed that data usage is 100% unthrottled and uncapped if you sign up before the 7th. Now I imagine there is some fine print which says if you use 50GB in a month they can throttle you if they wish, but obviously this is well above and beyond anyone's usage pattern.
On tmobile I was routinely hitting the 2GB cap without doing much at all. I stream a lot of music while I drive, and email a lot of 5MP pictures to myself to watch on my computer so I dont have to worry about a USB cable. I also surf on my lunch break and in the evenings on the couch. I can use about 1GB a week doing this.
I think im getting throttled. my 3g used t be much faster.
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I think im getting throttled. my 3g used t be much faster.
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Go download speedtest and tell us what you get. Make sure you are doing this in a known good area.
I used over 70GB the first month this was out and never got throttled and still don't(Didn't have internet for that month so my phone became the internet). So its a good bet its quite high and will stay there for the unlimited people. >1MB/sec upload speeds <3 for torrents
EDIT/UPDATE: File your complaint with the FCC over the bandwidth throttle;
http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm
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Using AT&T and a new SGS2. I've had a grandfathered "unlimited" plan for 10 years @ $30/mo.
"Unlimited" by definition means 'without limitations, unrestricted'. I was getting over 700KB/sec download before the throttle, now I barely get 15KB/sec, it's effectively crippled my phone and certainly made GPS unusable. Calls to AT&T are pointless, they have a different definition of 'unlimited' and are telling me the throttle won't be lifted until my next billing cycle in January.
Two questions;
Does anyone else find this absurd? "Unlimited" is a very specific, non-ambiguous term.
And has anyone found a way around this?
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of course its absurd but there's no way around it
I'm not a lawyer but this seems like class-action material. It's false advertising, at the very least.
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Just wondering, how much did you use per minutes of internet before hey started throttling you?
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There's a thread in the Vivid forum discussing this. People are being throttled after as little as 1 GB. Can't figure out what their use of measure is. Calendar month? 1 GB is unacceptable. I said over there top 5% is likely a lot lower than people probably think considering tons of people on grandfathered unlimited plans probably use hardly any of their data. Smartphones are no longer for the power user. My dad as an Android phone and he might have his email setup, but I'm sure that's all the data he uses.
edit: They did find a way to change the APN to where you weren't throttled anymore though, not sure if that applies here as well.
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There's a thread in the Vivid forum discussing this. People are being throttled after as little as 1 GB. Can't figure out what their use of measure is. Calendar month? 1 GB is unacceptable. I said over there top 5% is likely a lot lower than people probably think considering tons of people on grandfathered unlimited plans probably use hardly any of their data. Smartphones are no longer for the power user. My dad as an Android phone and he might have his email setup, but I'm sure that's all the data he uses.
edit: They did find a way to change the APN to where you weren't throttled anymore though, not sure if that applies here as well.
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Not throttled yet. 10GB last month and about 3gb this month so far
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Not throttled yet. 10GB last month and about 3gb this month so far
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That's the complaint there, can't figure out what's triggering the throttling.
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edit: They did find a way to change the APN to where you weren't throttled anymore though, not sure if that applies here as well.
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That works only for LTE phones. They hit the Throttle on the LTE data, they can switch APNs to use HSPA+ data at full HSPA+ speeds. So they go from 30+ Mbps on LTE to like 0.25 Mbps, then switch to HSPA+ and get 6-8 Mbps.
In my area I get 2-3, at best on HSPA+. I use 6-8 GB on a normal month, as high at 10.5 one month. I have never been throttled.
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That works only for LTE phones. They hit the Throttle on the LTE data, they can switch APNs to use HSPA+ data at full HSPA+ speeds. So they go from 30+ Mbps on LTE to like 0.25 Mbps, then switch to HSPA+ and get 6-8 Mbps.
In my area I get 2-3, at best on HSPA+. I use 6-8 GB on a normal month, as high at 10.5 one month. I have never been throttled.
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I feel like I'm capped at 3 Mbps. No matter what it tops out at that. Kinda odd if I'm not capped.
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I feel like I'm capped at 3 Mbps. No matter what it tops out at that. Kinda odd if I'm not capped.
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3G and Faug G data speeds vary greatly by market. I think LTE is fairly consistent market to market, and in those markets the HSPA+ data is generally 8-11 Mbps.
Some people complain when they are throttled down to 100KB/s, something that's a good day for me.
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To answer those that asked, and yes, I admit this might seem ridiculous, but I did ~10.6GB in 14 days. Prior to that, I averaged 10-20GB a month with no hassles. With the new phone, the $0.10 Google market sale and a lot of experiementing, it was higher than expected with the new speeds. Still, "unlimited" is unlimited.
The notice I got came in the form a text, informing me that I should check their data plans (again, I have unlimited, why would I care?) and then a second notice that came in hours later - sometime around 4-5am that read:
"ATT Free Msg: Your data use is approaching the top 5% of users. Avoid reduced data speeds, use Wi-Fi where available. Visit att.com/dataplans or call 866-344-7584"
That's it. The warning came but I was already throttled and the "smart" part of my phone is effectively useless.
Read this story it explains how AT$T determines who should get throttled.
In a nut shell if you live in a area that has high data usage then the threshold is a lot higher then if you live in a area that has low data usage.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/AT-T-iPhone-data-throttle-4G-2G,news-13445.html
Dude 25GB is excessive!
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But the i777 doesn't have LTE.....right?
Can't we sue at t for throttling since we never signed up for throttled plan.. It suppose to be unlimited and they are not throttling other data plans
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It doesn't say anywhere in your agreement you are set to get certain speeds. It also says all over that att will do whatever they deem necessary if they feel your use can cause detrimental affects on other users.
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Made an update to my earlier post. My account on att.com reports that I did 10.6GB and was roughly half-way into my billing cycle.
Since their nerfbat hits entire neighborhoods (by design) it makes for some ridiculous scenarios. This **** was obviously derived by committee.
Question: Is it even possible to consume all of the data in your plan if you are restricted to 2G? No. It's not.
AT&T's plan caps can't even be consumed at 2G speeds, it would be fun to see a class-action against AT&T for failure to fulfill contract by deliberate act.
Scenario:
1) you use a bunch of data quickly to DL something in the beginning of the month.
2) AT&T flags you and demotes you to 2G for the remainder of the month.
3) At full 2G speed, you DL everything you can, but are only able to use up 2/3 of your paid data plan simply because it is not possible to use more than that with 2G in a month.
While you're stuck at 2G, your 3G-equipped neighbor is now in the top 5% and gets demoted to 2G, too.
Yes, I smell class-action.
Tried once more to get a rep on the phone, it's pointless. This is a direct quote:
"Sir, I realize you have an unlimited plan but we've placed a limitation on it."
AT$T use a different dictionary to define 'unlimited'. Even if they wanted to, nobody can remove the throttle until the billing cylcle ends. Bastards.
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Tried once more to get a rep on the phone, it's pointless. This is a direct quote:
"Sir, I realize you have an unlimited plan but we've placed a limitation on it."
AT$T use a different dictionary to define 'unlimited'. Even if they wanted to, nobody can remove the throttle until the billing cylcle ends. Bastards.
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Technically you are unlimited, they're not completely shutting down your data. You can still transfer all day long, just at a slow pace.
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Creative English at it's best. ATT: Oh we didn't mean unlimited we were saying "Hey, its uhh, limited. "
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All,
Long time lurker, don't really post much. I've had the UDP for a long while now, and have tethered a lot with no issues. this week
i've been throttled heavily not just tethering but in normal usage. I"m still in contract on my UDP as well. I've tried flashing a different rom to make sure i didn't mess any settings up or anything happened with Alliance rom26, but its still happening, after reverting back to Stock. Connection will be fine for awhile than all of a sudden super slow.
I didn't think they were starting this until October??? It hasn't happened at all before....
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Long time lurker, don't really post much. I've had the UDP for a long while now, and have tethered a lot with no issues. this week
i've been throttled heavily not just tethering but in normal usage. I"m still in contract on my UDP as well. I've tried flashing a different rom to make sure i didn't mess any settings up or anything happened with Alliance rom26, but its still happening, after reverting back to Stock. Connection will be fine for awhile than all of a sudden super slow.
I didn't think they were starting this until October??? It hasn't happened at all before....
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Maybe its begun..
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Maybe its begun..
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reflashed the MJ9 firmware and its speeds are a bit more stable, but if it does happen again, will update. likely i am assuming it will..
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reflashed the MJ9 firmware and its speeds are a bit more stable, but if it does happen again, will update. likely i am assuming it will..
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still throttling after reflashing the firmware this morning.
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still throttling after reflashing the firmware this morning.
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What kind of data usage do you normally hit? I'm UDP but not a heavy user, in fact I should drop it and share with the wife. I have not had any slowness.
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What kind of data usage do you normally hit? I'm UDP but not a heavy user, in fact I should drop it and share with the wife. I have not had any slowness.
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last month 230 gigs (no internet at home- only options are TWC and ATT DSL) this month 30gigs with the end of the month being end of cycle.
230 gigs?! No wonder they are throttling you. Even 30 gigs would probably be cause for them to throttle you.
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last month 230 gigs (no internet at home- only options are TWC and ATT DSL) this month 30gigs with the end of the month being end of cycle.
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I see why they throttle you lol.
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I was getting on average of 15-18mbps a month ago but now I am getting on average 3-4mbps. Pretty crappy but that is why Verizon is no longer the #1 carrier in my eyes.
230 gigs through a cell phone is excessive. I use the crap out if mine and barely make 4 gigs. I can't even imagine 230 gigs.
Driodx isnt the only one using that amount of data last month I hit 263 gigs I stream a lot,Netflix etc. After I rolled over this month im at 70 gigs so I say unlimited should be unlimited I pay 29 for unlimited and its 30 for 2 gigs the basic data plan Verizon's greed is running a muck
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I have grandfathered unlimited data, and I only use 2-3 GB / month. sounds like some of you guys are the reason my data speeds have been so slow lately...i.e., tower congestion as opposed to throttling. I for one am OK with VZW's plan.
Wait a second your saying tower congestion is to blame and putting that on those who use their unlimited data as an unlimit to which means NO LIMIT as the reason for your slow connect (one word) location you live in NJ where as im in the country in kansas a half mile from the tower I connect to I highly doubt that affects your data speed no its Verizon's decision to throttle and force those of us on an unlimited plan to change simply because of greed
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... as the reason for your slow connect (one word) location you live in NJ where as im in the country in kansas a half mile from the tower I connect to I highly doubt that affects your data speed ...
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hey man, I hate this over populated state and all I want to do is escape to the country someday, but I'm stuck here at the moment, you don't have to rub it in.
PhilDX said:
I have grandfathered unlimited data, and I only use 2-3 GB / month. sounds like some of you guys are the reason my data speeds have been so slow lately...i.e., tower congestion as opposed to throttling. I for one am OK with VZW's plan.
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I'm in the 5-9 GB myself but am surprised that you're satisfied with VZW limiting our speeds because you have low usage. VZW ought to be expanding their network capacity with more towers and more fiber trunks than throttling paying customers.
They've begun throttling me in so cal, i use about 10-30 gigs a month but its all twitch streaming, youtube videos, netflix. Nothing nefarious. Sometimes getting the google.com page to load up takes a min, thats how bad they are throttling. Its horrible.
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I'm in the 5-9 GB myself but am surprised that you're satisfied with VZW limiting our speeds because you have low usage. VZW ought to be expanding their network capacity with more towers and more fiber trunks than throttling paying customers.
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I'm not happy with VZW throttling, it would definitely be much better if they upgraded their network to support more bandwidth. I have been buying phones at full retail just to hang on to my unlimited data plan, that's how much I want to keep it.
the problem is none of us are under contract for unlimited data anymore, the two year contracts have all expired (or will soon). so basically VZW can do whatever they want to maximize profit - they can throttle the heaviest users or they can terminate the unlimited data plans entirely and force all of us back on 2 Gb plans. that's what I want to avoid. I would rather keep unlimited data and be forced to stay below their stated throttling threshold (5 Gb per billing cycle) than lose it entirely and be limited to 2Gb per billing cycle.
I was able to keep my unlimited data when I purchased a new phone and started a new 2 year contract by using the best buy website trick.
issues also going on with others via reddit;
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskLosAngel...ne_else_having_trouble_with_verizon_wireless/
They tried to steal my UDP. I've noticed that occasionally it goes to a crawl. As of now I'm on stock rooted 4.4.2 unlocked. Everything else runs great. I'd say on a really data heavy month (using pbay etc) I can get to 20 but I usually float around 10-15
I rooted my phone last week in hopes that I could get 4g WiFi tethering. I have not found any mods/apps/hacks that allow me to get 4g speeds.
I still have a promotional plan that gives me 3 lines of unlimited everything for $100 a month with the only 2 restrictions (that I know of and care about) are WiFi tether at 3g and SD video streaming. To get these 2 features I would have to go to one of their new plans which would cost me about an extra $40 a month.
I have already tried several options to no avail: foxfi, adding new APN with .dun, and adding an edit to buildprop for net.tethering.noprovisioning=true. (bonus thanks if I could force HD video streaming also)
Any help would be appreciated.
Has anyone been able to find a work around for this?
you're paying for wifi 3g tether, and thats what you're getting; if you want something different, then pay for it, instead of trying to steal service you haven't paid for
Jp quick question...on your unlimited account do they cap your data to say 50g? I've had unlimited on my line for about 3 years now and never changed my plan. Back when i first got the plan i used to rack up 100g a month watching you tube and such with no problem, now they cap me to 50g. They basically changed my plan for me. Sorry for the off topic. As for tethering i just got my Note 8 yesterday so I'll start messing around this weekend and see if any of the old hacks work.
Update, I called yesterday and I was supposed to have the 4g tethering and HD video included on my line but it wasn't added on when they upgraded my plan, they added it at no charge. Apparently all my other lines already had the T-Mobile ONE Plus, but my line only had the T-Mobile ONE. They changed that for me and now I have 10gb native WiFi at 4g. And thank you for your suggestion @wase4711 but I root my phone to be able to take advantage of features that were not necessarily intended for specific devices. I have been rooting my devices since the original Droid came out.
@sshafranko, I rarely use more than 10gb a month per line, so I honestly do not know if they throttle after 50. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
They only throttle in congested areas like Houston or Atlanta. When I was visiting my g'ma in Houston, i got throttled, but when i got back to my hometown, it was back to being quick. It all just depends on how many people is connected to that tower at that point in time i guess. :/
First in order to have true Unlimited 4G/LTE data usage with your "Smartphone" device you would need to have one of the old Unlimited plans.
Note: No need to root for unlimited high speed tethering with one of the old unlimited plans.
For unlimited high speed tethering with the old Unlimited plans:
Use FoxFi with the FoxFi Key. You can do either WiFi or USB. With USB make sure you install FoxFi within your computer. Also make sure you click on "Hide Tether Usage" on both WiFi and USB modes.
If this doesn't work, then it is your newer "Unlimited" data plan that is the problem. Can't be solved by rooting.
Tethering software hides your tethering usage by making it look like "Smartphone" data usage. Tethering software doesn't hide the data usage itself. The data usage will still be logged by your carrier, like T-Mobile as "Smartphone" high speed when you use the tethering software to "hide" the data. Tethering software will just use up your monthly "Smartphone" high speed data usage. After that you are at the mercy of the carrier to not throttle you. So the tethering software and rooting isn't going to solve the newer "unlimited" data plans.
Remember that the newer "Unlimited" data plans are unlimited data usage, but NOT unlimited 4G/LTE data usage.
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wase4711 said:
you're paying for wifi 3g tether, and thats what you're getting; if you want something different, then pay for it, instead of trying to steal service you haven't paid for
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The problem with what you are saying is:
That is they (T-Mobile) are not offering 4G/LTE Unlimited data plans or large 4G/LTE data usage plans anymore. In fact no one (no carrier) is currently offering unlimited 4G/LTE data plans or large 4G/LTE data usage plans anymore. When I say large 4G/LTE data usage I am looking at what I use like around 250Gb to 500Gb of 4G/LTE data usage per month.
At the end:
You can't pay for something that isn't being offered anymore.
That is the rub!
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sshafranko said:
Jp quick question...on your unlimited account do they cap your data to say 50g? I've had unlimited on my line for about 3 years now and never changed my plan.
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On the old 4G/LTE unlimited plans they only cap you if they really need to due to really bad congested services or for emergency services. Which means rarely if ever.
On the new unlimited plan you will be capped before the old unlimited plans will.
The reason for this is the old 4G/LTE unlimited plans is truly unlimited 4G/LTE data services (unless extreme congested services or for emergency services needs the cellular services). While the new "Unlimited" plan is unlimited data services, but NOT truly unlimited 4G/LTE.