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hi guys,planning on buying the redmi note 3-snapdragon variant(kenzo,if im right).so is there any stable cm based rom with all the hardware working (ril-3G data,camera -photo& video-- being my priority),xposed compatability is imp too for ui tweaks.i dont mind even if its just lollipop,just want to have the lighter cm based rom,aosp would be too bland for me.hoping for advice frm rn3-sd users,in fact i wanted mi max but development seems to be slow for that device,plz pour in with your advices
I think you can go for it. I am using this devices since the release and I am very happy with the development.
it has official CM
If you want VoLTE you can go for AOSP
I have one and everything works perfectly on CM13 with the front camera fix flashed and Radon Kernel. I love it
You can definitely buy this phone. Most of the cm13 based roms have all the features working, also there's a huge choice between custom roms. And of course xposed is working very well.
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
Correct. If you don't care for Volte, almost most of the custom roms are stable enough to use it as daily driver. Volte is still not supported in most of the custom roms like CM13. CM14 supports it but it's WIP rom right now.
thank you very much for the input friends,it means a lot to me.i was going thru the respective rom threads(cm13,rr) some users were complaining abt camera,fp sensor,settings fc...something abt newer rn3 having slightly diff h/w and causing problems.anything in particular that i should be watching out for?...i just ordered 32gb ver of rn3 frm amazon india,its pending dispatch.ever since its release i wanted to get one..although seeing some user complaints i was wondering if i made the right decision...thats why i was in such a rush
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thank you very much for the input friends,it means a lot to me.i was going thru the respective rom threads(cm13,rr) some users were complaining abt camera,fp sensor,settings fc...something abt newer rn3 having slightly diff h/w and causing problems.anything in particular that i should be watching out for?...i just ordered 32gb ver of rn3 frm amazon india,its pending dispatch.ever since its release i wanted to get one..although seeing some user complaints i was wondering if i made the right decision...thats why i was in such a rush
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Well, they are right. All the problems you've mentioned here do exist, but....
As i can see you can use xda search pretty well, and if such a problem occurs you can easily find a way to fix it.
So don't worry ?
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
Guys,
So I'll be spending three months abroad, and likely to travel a fair bit for my job in the next few years. I'd like to get myself a dual-sim phone - one sim with my current home phone number, the other for the US sim (or wherever I go). I've been looking at Xiaomi phones for a while now, and the RN3 SnapDragon is the best value, I would think.
My current phone is a Nexus 5X - I bought it because I love stock android. For me, MIUI is an absolute non-starter. (I've also got an HTC One M8, and tried MIUI 7 and 8 on it - can't stand it.) So I'd have to rely on custom ROMs.
Hence my question : Are any of the N ROMs on Kate stable for daily, dual-sim use? I've gotten used to N on my Nexus and would find it hard to go back to MM (but I could if needed). I mostly use my phone as a communications node (calls, texts), as a web browser, and as a music player in my car via BT.
Thanks much!
Camera Bugs and Flashlight are the most popular issues encountered in N ROMs, some apps crashing and like that. So, in my opinion, I'd stick with MM ROMs for now. I'm using the Lineage OS 13.0 ROM as my daily driver.
I'm using Resurrection remix for the last 4 days and since then no reboot was even needed, so it seems stable for me. There are small bugs, like the flashlight bug and disappearing battery information from the statusbar (this may be RR specific bug), but for me it's no big deal.
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Pretty much stable for me. The main problem are the incompatible camera HAL driver. But it's not big deal. Just flashlight toogle must pressed 2-3 times for turn on sometimes, and random crash on camera. It can be fixed by flashing google camera from OpenGapps.
Yes, use last cm official nightly. I'm using from 2 months without any issue
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Don't flash any custom kernel or anything
OK - so no crashes with Google Camera? Other than that (and the flashlight toggle), pretty stable on CM14.1? (And by CM, I assume you mean Lineage?)
Okay, so BabyTedhu said Google Camera works, so I flashed CM 14.1 with Stock GAPPS (Google Camera replaces Stock AOSP), is it by default that you can't save through SD card? There's no option to save thru SD card.
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OK - so no crashes with Google Camera? Other than that (and the flashlight toggle), pretty stable on CM14.1? (And by CM, I assume you mean Lineage?)
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exce1ia said:
Okay, so BabyTedhu said Google Camera works, so I flashed CM 14.1 with Stock GAPPS (Google Camera replaces Stock AOSP), is it by default that you can't save through SD card? There's no option to save thru SD card.
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There's no option to save through sd card. It's set by google.
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Try nitrogen os rom. Most stable nougat for now. Camera and fp works fine with stock kernel
Nougat is pretty much stable already, but I would recommend getting a kenzo over a kate so that you can flash custom software easily. Also, it is slightly easier to find accesories for the kenzo.
Ya nitrogen os has no camera bug it is stable 99%. As compared to other Android 7 roms
Using RR nightly, Smooth & rare bugs which mentioned earlier.
Any Other better ROM than this? Nitrogen vs RR ? Which is best ?
Even Slim ROM shows stable build. Any EXP. on this ?
OK, awesome. Good to know. I wasn't tracking Nitrogen OS, thanks to whoever pointed that out. I'm a huge fan of the Slim series in general, really hoping that it'll be good to go on RN3 soon.
Thanks to everyone for the inputs! I was scared for a bit that I'd have to invest in a Mi5 (their Nougat ROMs seemed to be pretty stable, from what I could read), but glad to know I won't have to. This is just for a travel phone anyway, and the RN3 would be fine for that.
Cheers!
Go for Redmi note 3 pro(kenzo) as development for this model is absolutely amazing. Don't go for the (kate) as it's very difficult to mod that device and also can't flash custom ROM easily on it.
But he is getting the kate since he would be travelling a lot. So those extra bands might help him??
Well - my understanding is Kate only has one additional band (20) which wouldn't even be used in the States (where I'd do 60-70% of my travel). The regular Kenzo is still a fair bit better than most traditional Xiaomi phones in terms of LTE band availability. But honestly, LTE band availability is not a big deal to me. Any Xiaomi phone would be fine - I just talk/text, and do light web surfing when I'm using cell data. Most of my heavy lifting happens when I'm home or on a WiFi connection.
AFAIK, you can use Kenzo ROMs with Kate easily. Just flash Kate firmware-update folder.
Oh really?!? That makes a big difference then. But what do you mean : "Just flash Kate firmware-update folder"?
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Oh really?!? That makes a big difference then. But what do you mean : "Just flash Kate firmware-update folder"?
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MIUI ROMs contain a folder with firmware for the base band. That's the "firmware-update" folder I'm talking about. There are threads in this forum which provide Kate firmware to replace in Kenzo ROMs.
I've been stucking here on Nougat and fails to move on to Oreo. I don't know I just think that Nougat is better in term of performance and stability for gaming. But now, you know, all the threads and developers giving all their loves for Oreo. So maybe this is my time to move.
So, please all hard gamers. In your experience. I need your setup badly for which Oreo rom should I flash. The most minimal and only essential customizations but very good performance n gaming, and please tell me which kernel you've been using for gaming. I really need it badly. Gaming is life. Please.
FYI I play Vainglory, FreeFire or ROS. Thank you so much.
Since there are no Oreo blobs for the Redmi Note 4 from Xiaomi (the Redmi Note 4 has yet to get the MIUI Oreo update and Xiaomi won't release sources for it until it does), kernels are pretty useless, IMO. Just stick with Nougat. It has sources so kernels for it are a whole lot more useful.
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Since there are no Oreo blobs for the Redmi Note 4 from Xiaomi (the Redmi Note 4 has yet to get the MIUI Oreo update and Xiaomi won't release sources for it until it does), recoveries are pretty useless, IMO. Just stick with Nougat. It has sources so kernels for it are a whole lot more useful.
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Ah, didn't know that. If you tell so I think Im gonna stick with Nougat. Do you know when estimated time Xiaomi to release sources for Oreo?
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Ah, didn't know that. If you tell so I think Im gonna stick with Nougat. Do you know when estimated time Xiaomi to release sources for Oreo?
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Probably never. Xiaomi never updates its old phones to new Android versions (only makes aesthetic changes to MIUI in updates), and this phone is a year old now. So it's old in Xiaomi's eyes. Xiaomi is a hardware company. Makes its money off hardware. So it has to keep pumping out new phones to ensure sales. If everyone holds onto old phones, like us Note 4 owners, Xiaomi doesn't get paid.
So don't expect an Oreo update or official sources from Xiaomi. You'll probably have to move onto the Note 5 Pro if you want Oreo and good gaming performance.
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Probably never. Xiaomi never updates its old phones to new Android versions (only makes aesthetic changes to MIUI in updates), and this phone is a year old now. So it's old in Xiaomi's eyes. Xiaomi is a hardware company. Makes its money off hardware. So it has to keep pumping out new phones to ensure sales. If everyone holds onto old phones, like us Note 4 owners, Xiaomi doesn't get paid.
So don't expect an Oreo update or official sources from Xiaomi. You'll probably have to move onto the Note 5 Pro if you want Oreo and good gaming performance.
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Wow nice information. Note 5 pro is too pricey imo, I better add few bucks for better device. K then, thanks buddy!
Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
HiddenSanctum said:
Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
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They have weekly ROM updates for those who want to opt-in to the developer builds.
Stable builds are at their own discretion.
They're not amazing, but better than many.
Security updates is another story. They're a bit slow with them, though I think that varies per device (Redmi is budget so gets low priority).
Poco is a new brand trying to go global though, so hopefully it's better than other devices (not sure how security updates are on the flagship Mi series)
After one or two months most of the people will shift to some or the other custom rom. So there won't be any problem with the security updates and normal OS upgrades. My Mi3 was released with KitKat now it's running Android Pie
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After one or two months most of the people will shift to some or the other custom rom. So there won't be any problem with the security updates and normal OS upgrades. My Mi3 was released with KitKat now it's running Android Pie
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I assume he's asking about *Xiaomi* updates, the official ROM. Of course you can just install custom ROM's to get latest updates unofficially - but that makes the question moot.
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Hi, I was wondering for people who have own various Xiaomi phones. How are they on OS updates and Security updates?
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Beta ROM updates are very fast both security n OS updates.
Stable updates within the same OS version are faster too. But OS upgrade need a bit waiting time as OS integrating to MIUI takes time.
Poco I expect faster updates due to treble support.
FYI:
Mix 2S of xiaomi already has Android 9 beta update.
very bad on stock roms stuck to old OS builds for mid range phones but on flagships very fast like blyat cyka rush b
I have used Redmi 2, Redmi 2 Prime, Redmi Note 3/4/5, Redmi 3S/prime and only Redmi 2 and Redmi Note 3 as my daily driver.
Those things taught the following:
Don't except updates from Xiaomi, not even security patches, although they have started providing patches on Note series but they are always late, so patches may arrive but not when you expect them.
You may not get the latest features even if you have the latest android version on your MIUI, why? because Xiaomi wants to provide same features to all the phones so that phones running on Kitkat will have the same feature as phone running on Oreo, this makes their software development easy, that means that the feature that you are using doesn't have native support and may be buggy and battery hogging.
There are two channels in MIUI - Beta Channel and StableChannel. Stable channel update is provided every 4-5 months or whenever they feel like or to fix a very important bug. Beta channel was previously bimonthly but I have heard that now, it's changed. Due to this, they don't fix bugs properly and instead introduce more bugs in the system
Their update size are generally 500MB-1.5GB but the fixes are things like: Calender icon changed, Button of some subforum in MIUI forum app changed, New Ringtones and every useless things, then in the end *Bug Fixes* but they don't mention which one. Out of every 10 beta updates only 1 or 2 updates are useful while others are just formality.
Now, note this, other companies give update to keep your phone running for longer amount of time. Xiaomi thinks different, they will wreck your device with every update they provide.
When I had Redmi Note 3, Beta channel was more better and more stable than the Stable channel, I am not lying go check the forums.
There is no major change in MIUI 7-9 the first major change I saw was MIUI6 - MIUI 7 after that all changes were just useless and they everytime just change notification shade style.
MIUI 10 - Notification shade now looks like a copy of iPhone and it's really very cheap act by Xiaomi, although their App switcher is somewhat cool.
Custom ROM:
Xiaomi phones works best with stock android and indeed has the best development support. But there are few catches.
Not all features work in custom ROM, you will have to leave one or two things if you want to use custom ROM.
The famous and best developers will not port VOLTE if their cell providers don't provide it
Camera (on Xiaomi phones) doesn't works well on custom ROMS.
Xiaomi does provide kernel but they don't provide a lot of proprietary codes and binaries that ensures smooth functioning of phones.
Don't buy the phone if you want to get updates unless it's Chinese, they do care about Chinese people unlike their global counterpart, or those people who develop global roms are arseheads.
All the above points can be confirmed on MIUI forums and XDA, if anyone says that even one of the point(s) is wrong, he is probably new in Xiaomi's world.
Redmi is the cheap line and they get late updates and bugs are not fixed properly. Mi is the expensive line of Xiaomi so they get proper update in first few months and after that they are also neglected. Since Poco is also a cheap but is a flagship, they will get good number of updates and fixes for few months then they will announce another phone and Poco will be neglected, and people who are saying that Poco has a different team may be wrong, I don't think Xioami will divide the team because internally it uses the same MIUI as others only launcher is different. For world Poco is a brand, for Xiaomi it's yet another phone.
Depends. My Mi3 got updated from kitkat to Marshmallow while my mi tab 1 was still stuck at kitkat with such a laggy interface until I flashed nougat roms with shiels blobs which made the tab as smooth as my oneplus 3. So MIUI sucks and they don't update android versions when they update their miui version. So buy a phone which has strong custom rom support. (Xiaomi models that are sold in India have strong dev support from what I have seen)
Thanks everyone for the info. That gives me a good idea.
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very bad on stock roms stuck to old OS builds for mid range phones but on flagships very fast like blyat cyka rush b
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Aye Aye Kurwa :laugh:
you forgot p90
Sandepp said:
Depends. My Mi3 got updated from kitkat to Marshmallow while my mi tab 1 was still stuck at kitkat with such a laggy interface until I flashed nougat roms with shiels blobs which made the tab as smooth as my oneplus 3. So MIUI sucks and they don't update android versions when they update their miui version. So buy a phone which has strong custom rom support. (Xiaomi models that are sold in India have strong dev support from what I have seen)
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Huh? You say it sucks but your Mi 3 got two major updates. How does that suck?
As for tablet, well it's a tablet. Android tablets were always poor selling and are now completely dead anyway (Chrome OS tablets are the future), can't compare phones to tablets.
I am not sure what section to post this question in and I am not aware that this question has been answered.
Where to I find a list of recent phones or tablets suitable for Lineage OS? The LineageOS own site is a mix of really old phones with more recent ones and omits all non official ports.
The question is actually quite simple: suppose I want to buy a phone or a tablet today to install LineageOS. What are the options?
The requirements are:
-the device should not be too old (issued in 2017-2018), or I can't buy it new
-it should support Lineage 14 or 15
-Lineage should be installable on the current version, ideally without needing to register as a developper by the manufacturer.
The latter is more tricky than it seems. For example, the Samsung A5 is officially supported by LineageOS 14, but there is no LineageOS 15 rom available. Current versions come with Android 8.0 and cannot be downgraded to LineageOS 14. Besides, Samsung added extra security on their bootloader which makes installation a real pain.
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I am not sure what section to post this question in and I am not aware that this question has been answered.
Where to I find a list of recent phones or tablets suitable for Lineage OS? The LineageOS own site is a mix of really old phones with more recent ones and omits all non official ports.
The question is actually quite simple: suppose I want to buy a phone or a tablet today to install LineageOS. What are the options?
The requirements are:
-the device should not be too old (issued in 2017-2018), or I can't buy it new
-it should support Lineage 14 or 15
-Lineage should be installable on the current version, ideally without needing to register as a developper by the manufacturer.
The latter is more tricky than it seems. For example, the Samsung A5 is officially supported by LineageOS 14, but there is no LineageOS 15 rom available. Current versions come with Android 8.0 and cannot be downgraded to LineageOS 14. Besides, Samsung added extra security on their bootloader which makes installation a real pain.
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Why not just shortlist a few devices you like and then checking whether they have good dev support?
Samsung is the toughest to get a bug-free lineage os rom, so strike that
OnePlus has good dev support and some Xiaomi phones too
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Why not just shortlist a few devices you like and then checking whether they have good dev support?
Samsung is the toughest to get a bug-free lineage os rom, so strike that
OnePlus has good dev support and some Xiaomi phones too
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Thank you for your answer.
I did not consider OnePlus, because their phones are only available for a short period of time. When LineageOS is available, the phone is usually out of production. Xiaomi, I don't know about their phones.
Do you know if OnePlus and Xiaomi allow installation of alternatrive roms without requiring an unlock key from the manufacturer?
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Thank you for your answer.
I did not consider OnePlus, because their phones are only available for a short period of time. When LineageOS is available, the phone is usually out of production. Xiaomi, I don't know about their phones.
Do you know if OnePlus and Xiaomi allow installation of alternatrive roms without requiring an unlock key from the manufacturer?
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OnePlus doesn't require a key from the manufacturer. OnePlus 6 or 6t should be a good bet if you don't mind the notch . However, unlocking a Xiaomi bootloader may be time-consuming since you need a code and it can take time to get.
EDIT; You can't go wrong with a Google Pixel 2XL , all roms will work seamlessly
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OnePlus doesn't require a key from the manufacturer. OnePlus 6 or 6t should be a good bet if you don't mind the notch . However, unlocking a Xiaomi bootloader may be time-consuming since you need a code and it can take time to get.
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So, Xiaomi would be a second choice. I don't really want to have to beg the manufacturer for an unlock code.
I checked about the OnePlus 6 and 6T. No real development yet on 6T, since the phone is not publicly available (expected). LineageOS 15 does not appear to be maintained any more on the 6. Bummer.
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EDIT; You can't go wrong with a Google Pixel 2XL , all roms will work seamlessly
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I checked the Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL. There are difficulties with these phones because of encryption, but they can be solved. Lineage is a special build that comes with gapps pre-installed. I dont want gapps at all.
Thank you for your help, but I still don't have what I am looking for: a phone, reasonably recent so as to be available new, with a reasonably usable Lineage OS 15 installable without too much trouble.
I also asked about a tablet, but that seems even more difficult.