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I know people have asked how to remove all traces of root, and people say what they've done is enough. Well for me I work in the financial servies industry where everything is highly regulated. There is an app called GOOD for enterprise that I have to have for my email and calendar sync.
Well it automatically disables and locks itself if it detects root. So I did all that should be required to unroot, and it still doesn't work. Tech says it will detect any root file or app on the phone.
I have deleted my adblocker, Titanium backup, superuser, wifi tether, and the z4root apk's I had still on my sd card. Can anyone think of anything else besides a complete reset
What sucks is that every time it locks it has to be uninstalled, reinstalled, and I have to call tech to get a new pin. which is a hassle
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I know people have asked how to remove all traces of root, and people say what they've done is enough. Well for me I work in the financial servies industry where everything is highly regulated. There is an app called GOOD for enterprise that I have to have for my email and calendar sync.
Well it automatically disables and locks itself if it detects root. So I did all that should be required to unroot, and it still doesn't work. Tech says it will detect any root file or app on the phone.
I have deleted my adblocker, Titanium backup, superuser, wifi tether, and the z4root apk's I had still on my sd card. Can anyone think of anything else besides a complete reset
What sucks is that every time it locks it has to be uninstalled, reinstalled, and I have to call tech to get a new pin. which is a hassle
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Your best bet is just too reset to stock and be done with the hassle.
Agreed. I think wiping data/factory reset and flash SBF would save you a lot of the trouble. Or...use another phone for work...shouldn't they pay for that anyway?
You will have to do an SBF, just doing a "factory reset" through the phone won't be enough.
I am surprised an app can check for root and check for any files that are related to rooting in the first place.
Well, it worked for about 4-5 days (right after I posted this) and then I opened it and it locked itself again. I hadn't downloaded or installed anything and I had used it earlier in the day.
I used RSD Lite and the files here to unroot.
http)//www(.)holylivingfuck(.)com/ACS/SBFs/ (Can't post links)
I'm pretty sure i flashed the sbf because I had to do a bunch of OTA updates when I was done. This time when I called tech support I got a guy that knew nothing about rooting (last time I had a guy who had a rooted phone himself) and he said I can't unroot it myself, it is something that has to be done at the sprint store.
I can't imagine what else I have left to do, or what it picked up that it didn't over the course of 5 days
ChaosbyWind said:
Well, it worked for about 4-5 days (right after I posted this) and then I opened it and it locked itself again. I hadn't downloaded or installed anything and I had used it earlier in the day.
I used RSD Lite and the files here to unroot.
http)//www(.)holylivingfuck(.)com/ACS/SBFs/ (Can't post links)
I'm pretty sure i flashed the sbf because I had to do a bunch of OTA updates when I was done. This time when I called tech support I got a guy that knew nothing about rooting (last time I had a guy who had a rooted phone himself) and he said I can't unroot it myself, it is something that has to be done at the sprint store.
I can't imagine what else I have left to do, or what it picked up that it didn't over the course of 5 days
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You need a full stock and factory reset. Basicly new like you just got the phone out of the box. Not even turned on.
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You need a full stock and factory reset. Basicly new like you just got the phone out of the box. Not even turned on.
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I took it to the sprint store to try to fenagle them to replace it and they ended up going into the dialer and doing ##786 (or some number like that) and then put in some sort of verification number. Essentially it fully reset the phone without losing any data or apps or settings.
Immediately following that the app worked, but I'm not sure for how long. Is there any way to do that full stock and factory reset without losing everything?
I used the RSDlite for restore my phone and it kept all my data and apps.
put all of the stuff you need on your external sd card, remove it, wipe/restore to factory settings and flash stock sbf and you should be unrooted with all your apps and data safely stored on your sd card
Hey guys, so here's the problem and I hope you can all help.
Before someone yells at me I did do a search here before and I've attempted the things suggested as mentioned below, and it didn't work.
I rooted my android razr maxx. And in an attempt to get rid of bloatware I deleted some programs which I THOUGHT would have no affect, so now when I go to click on a contact in my phone I get a "Process com.motorola.contacts has stopped unexpectedly" message.
I've done this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost...ostcount=5
Even after doing that I still can't get it. I've factory reset so many times it's become a thing of desperation. I can't unroot my phone or do anything that requires a USB data cable, because well, for some reason mine isn't working now.
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Problems are:
1) Force close "Process com.motorola.contacts has stopped unexpectedly" Attempted to re install missing files.
2) Can't/Don't know how to update phone now that it's rooted.
3) Data cable is not working, there is no option to turn phone into mass storage device.
You need to use RSD Lite to flash a full system image as you have screwed up your system files and no factory restore will fix that.
Every single thread about bloat removal states: DO NOT DELETE ANYTHING, SIMPLY FREEZE! It is a piece of good advice.
Just as szadzik was saying I learned this one the hard way also.. You never never delete a system app or settings.. and factory reset will not reinstall apps but it will delete your apps and data.. so yah just use the features in ics app menus to
Disable apps but never delete them.. or use titanium backup (my personal favorite)
Szadzik said:
You need to use RSD Lite to flash a full system image as you have screwed up your system files and no factory restore will fix that.
Every single thread about bloat removal states: DO NOT DELETE ANYTHING, SIMPLY FREEZE! It is a piece of good advice.
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Szadzik said:
You need to use RSD Lite to flash a full system image as you have screwed up your system files and no factory restore will fix that.
Every single thread about bloat removal states: DO NOT DELETE ANYTHING, SIMPLY FREEZE! It is a piece of good advice.
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Is there a guide to this? I'm completely new to this. Tbh i've just been following step by step guides to get this far.
MosesEisley said:
Is there a guide to this? I'm completely new to this. Tbh i've just been following step by step guides to get this far.
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Search the forum for fastboot files for your model.
Boy I'm not having great luck with my hardware atm. My Nexus 7 has got some serious lag issue, probably needing a factory restore, and now my SGS2 is playing up and looking like it might need the same. I'd appreciate the help before I go to that - not sure where I am on backups, I think this problem has been lingering for a while unnoticed, and its possible my scheduled Titanium task hasn't worked in a while because of this.
So let me run through. I was trying to update a few apps in the app store, and I got 'the package file is invalid' errors over and over. I was a little confused, and suddenly I was getting a flickering alert for 'low on application space' that would come and go.
I went into applications to see what my space was and it was fine, 400mb free. But I noticed that all of the apps were reading as zero size. I tried removing one I knew was big, and the free space adjusted by a real amount, but no change to the sizes in the listing. I went thru and uninstalled a bunch just to be sure. Even after this, I could still not install any apps without getting the invalid message.
I decided to restart and wipe the cache, thinking maybe something had gone wrong there. No change. All the installed apps were working ok, though, no problems running things. So, I decide that something minor has corrupted, and that a reflash of the current firmware would maybe do the job (which is a stock XEU build of ICS). I have 'Mobile Odin' and keep the current firmware file on the SD just in case. I of course want to run a backup first, so I fire up Titanium, which fails to do the backup, with an error about something catching fire trying to 'do calculation'. I begin to figure that something worse has happened by this point.
I decide to go ahead with the reflash using Mobile Odin. It seems to load fine, I tell it to wipe the cache and so on. The flash goes fine, and the phone reboots. I expected it to go through the little optimising applications thing it does, and true enough I see this box load up, saying 'start applications' and the spinning wheel. Then, it abruptly closes, and I get my home panel...
But here's where it goes severely wrong - every app I can think of now crashes, displaying the 'unfortunately XXX has stopped'. Boxes and boxes, for basically every app that in any way runs at startup, every widget, even my Swift Key and Swipe keyboards. Yikes! After clearing the huge backlog of boxes, I start trying to open stuff, and it quickly becomes apparent that no app will work, save for those that are physically part of the firmware (such as Settings, Messages, Phone, Contacts, Memo, Camera). Basically, unless its a stock app, it's just dead. My SD apps show up as if they aren't found, with the little grey SD box. I can't even open the Play Store to try redownloading an app.
I'm going to try, once I'm home from work, reflashing the firmware using desktop Odin. But, failing that, I will need a factory restore it would seem. Basically, I'm looking help either fixing the problem without a factory restore, or a way to back up my data (messages and app data) in case my Titanium Backups are old or broken.
Thanks :/
Edit: When I do a *#1234#, my CSC comes up as 'Unknown'. Would this cause these issues?
Boot into CWM recovery and fix permissions.
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Boot into CWM recovery and fix permissions.
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I don't have CWM recovery installed. Will it be possible for me to install it with the phone in this state? Any reasons why the permissions will have gone like this?
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I don't have CWM recovery installed. Will it be possible for me to install it with the phone in this state? Any reasons why the permissions will have gone like this?
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Flash a CF root kernel using desktop Odin, reboot into CWM via hard keys vol+ home and power. Find fix permissions, run it, reboot, hopefully work...
Most apps that aren't granted the right permissions that allow them to fulfil there main task will usually end up in a FC.
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Orkane1989 said:
Flash a CF root kernel using desktop Odin, reboot into CWM via hard keys vol+ home and power. Find fix permissions, run it, reboot, hopefully work...
Most apps that aren't granted the right permissions that allow them to fulfil there main task will usually end up in a FC.
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The phone is already rooted. Can I apply CWM as an update.zip from inside the current recovery?
gyaku_zuki said:
The phone is already rooted. Can I apply CWM as an update.zip from inside the current recovery?
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Unsure. Most likely not. It would be like running 2 kernels at once... just wouldnt work. Wouldn't risk it. Could hard brick the phone.
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First, Post your ROM and kernel details; Goto Settings - About phone, and post everything you see
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First, Post your ROM and kernel details; Goto Settings - About phone, and post everything you see
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No problem -
Model N: GT-I9100
Android V: 4.0.3
Baseband V: I9100XXLPS
Kernel V: 3.0.15-I9100XWLP7-CL340913 [email protected] #3
Build N: IML74K.XWLP7
I ask about the update.zip thing as it is a legitimate way to install CWM recovery according to various guides online.
Thanks for the help guys. Appreciate it.
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Model N: GT-I9100
Android V: 4.0.3
Baseband V: I9100XXLPS
Kernel V: 3.0.15-I9100XWLP7-CL340913 [email protected] #3
Build N: IML74K.XWLP7
I ask about the update.zip thing as it is a legitimate way to install CWM recovery according to various guides online.
Thanks for the help guys. Appreciate it.
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1. Backup your important data.
2. Uninstall apps you don't use
3. Using a ROOT capable explorer goto /data/app on your phone, delete all .odex files you find there
4. Disable System apps you don't need/use
- Goto Settings - Apps - All - Select the app you want to disable, select FORCE STOP, then DISABLE.
Repeat the step for each app
- Alternatively you can use titanium backup pro to freeze those apps
You can find the list of apps you can disable: here https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...1gdDJRekl4QmkyNmIzUmRvX2h3UDVkQXc&output=html
5. Boot to recovery (the stock recovery)
- clear cache
- reboot phone.
6. If any user / system app gives you force stop warning, then clear the days of that/those app(s) in settings.
You should notice the difference!
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Jokesy said:
1. Backup your important data.
2. Uninstall apps you don't use
3. Using a ROOT capable explorer goto /data/app on your phone, delete all .odex files you find there
4. Disable System apps you don't need/use
- Goto Settings - Apps - All - Select the app you want to disable, select FORCE STOP, then DISABLE.
Repeat the step for each app
- Alternatively you can use titanium backup pro to freeze those apps
You can find the list of apps you can disable: here https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...1gdDJRekl4QmkyNmIzUmRvX2h3UDVkQXc&output=html
5. Boot to recovery (the stock recovery)
- clear cache
- reboot phone.
6. If any user / system app gives you force stop warning, then clear the days of that/those app(s) in settings.
You should notice the difference!
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Thanks for that, but I'm sorry, what? I seem to be missing something - you've answered something that seems to be an entirely different problem! I can't even RUN an explorer let alone grant it root - so I can't reach the ODEXes, which aren't the reason for the FCs anyway.
This 'fix permissions' sounds like a good plan, I just need to know my best method for getting CWM onto the phone given it's state. I think I can use the update.zip method, but I may have to just wait until I can get to a machine capable of running Odin for me, to flash the CF kernel.
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Thanks for that, but I'm sorry, what? I seem to be missing something - you've answered something that seems to be an entirely different problem! I can't even RUN an explorer let alone grant it root - so I can't reach the ODEXes, which aren't the reason for the FCs anyway.
This 'fix permissions' sounds like a good plan, I just need to know my best method for getting CWM onto the phone given it's state. I think I can use the update.zip method, but I may have to just wait until I can get to a machine capable of running Odin for me, to flash the CF kernel.
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Ok.
Let me tell you some things you need to know
1. Fix permissions only has much effect on system apps, only if their permission is broken
2. Flashing a new Kernel will never fix many FC
3. Have you booted to recovery and wipe cache? If after doing this and your problem still persist, then you might have perform a Factory Data Reset.
4. Flashing a new firmware via Odin will not dramatically stop Force close errors. You will still need a factory reset to fix that.
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Jokesy said:
Ok.
Let me tell you some things you need to know
1. Fix permissions only has much effect on system apps, only if their permission is broken
2. Flashing a new Kernel will never fix many FC
3. Have you booted to recovery and wipe cache? If after doing this and your problem still persist, then you might have perform a Factory Data Reset.
4. Flashing a new firmware via Odin will not dramatically stop Force close errors. You will still need a factory reset to fix that.
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I've tried wiping cache in recovery, yes. The only apps that run are the system ones. I can't explain why permissions may have been broken on the other apps, but it may be the case, so I'd like to try it. And, it was a flash via (Mobile) Odin CAUSED the FCs, so I don't know if that's true. Regardless, I'm heading home now, I can try flashing the CWM and run the fix permissions, and otherwise I need to figure out a backup solution before I factory restore.
I don't mean this wrong, but I'd prefer you don't just throw generic (yet good for general faults) advice if you don't have personal knowledge of the particular problem. It could be misleading.
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I don't mean this wrong, but I'd prefer you don't just throw generic (yet good for general faults) advice if you don't have personal knowledge of the particular problem. It could be misleading.
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You know my aim wasn't to mislead you but to help. I actually missed somethings in your Original post like "Every apps now doesn't work" etc
Because the only apps that run now are the system apps proves that there is something wrong in the /data partition, a location where all user apps, settings etc are stored.
Anyway, it's always very good to try all other means possible before factory reset.
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Jokesy said:
You know my aim wasn't to mislead you but to help. I actually missed somethings in your Original post like "Every apps now doesn't work" etc
Because the only apps that run now are the system apps proves that there is something wrong in the /data partition, a location where all user apps, settings etc are stored.
Anyway, it's always very good to try all other means possible before factory reset.
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Oh, I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to offend you or have a go. I appreciate all the help about to try flashing the rooted CWM kernel, to try the permissions fix. If that doesn't work, I need to figure out some way of doing a backup of sorts, before I do a restore :crying:
UPDATE: After flashing the CF-Kernel to access CWM, I'm getting a message I'm unfamiliar with "The System UIDs are inconsistent" yadda yadda factory reset. I'm currently 'fixing permissions' It looks like it's stalled, but it may just take a while. I have a lot of apps. Anyone understand the UIDs message in my context?
Update 2: Had to factory restore, but was able to restore almost everything with no problems from a CWM nandroid backup. Thanks for the help.
this happened once when i was using previous version Wanamlite rom which is 4.0.4, i didn't pay too much attention on it cuz i was just about to flash a new version and this never happened in the following roms; however, when i tried to install a small software, the system reminded me again. the fact is that i've just clean my internal SD room and i m sure there are more enough room to have like a movie. anyway, does this happen to anyone of u or someone who can tell me what to do. i just tried to reboot the device. is there any need to reflash the rom????
李凉凉-Angus said:
this happened once when i was using previous version Wanamlite rom which is 4.0.4, i didn't pay too much attention on it cuz i was just about to flash a new version and this never happened in the following roms; however, when i tried to install a small software, the system reminded me again. the fact is that i've just clean my internal SD room and i m sure there are more enough room to have like a movie. anyway, does this happen to anyone of u or someone who can tell me what to do. i just tried to reboot the device. is there any need to reflash the rom????
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If you check in Settings Storage how much space is showing? Once you have this check the size of the app you are installing to make sure there is enough room.
It does sound like you may need to wipe all data and perform a factory reset. Obviously though doing this means you will need to install all of your apps again and set up your google account etc.
carrd said:
If you check in Settings Storage how much space is showing? Once you have this check the size of the app you are installing to make sure there is enough room.
It does sound like you may need to wipe all data and perform a factory reset. Obviously though doing this means you will need to install all of your apps again and set up your google account etc.
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well, now i found the reason why i can install apps. the reason is simple that i once installed and it left something else in my phone when i uninstalled it, so this come to me when i tried to reinstall this app.the solution is delete the left file of the app
Hello, s2 galllery just become unusable. How ? Well I connected device to the pc, copyed some photos to pc and then deleted some photos of s2 gallery from my computer with shift+delete. after that I disconnect device and guess what? Yes gallery and photo itself either lags alot even though its even less photos in the mobile than before or does not even start or says gallery is not respoding. Restarted device - did not help. deleted gallery data(cache) from applications section also did not help. I hope to find an answer without doing a factory reset.
for now it doesnt even start - says loading for ever
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Hello, s2 galllery just become unusable. How ? Well I connected device to the pc, copyed some photos to pc and then deleted some photos of s2 gallery from my computer with shift+delete. after that I disconnect device and guess what? Yes gallery and photo itself either lags alot even though its even less photos in the mobile than before or does not even start or says gallery is not respoding. Restarted device - did not help. deleted gallery data(cache) from applications section also did not help. I hope to find an answer without doing a factory reset.
for now it doesnt even start - says loading for ever
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What ROM are you on again?
DZG said:
Hello, s2 galllery just become unusable. How ? Well I connected device to the pc, copyed some photos to pc and then deleted some photos of s2 gallery from my computer with shift+delete. after that I disconnect device and guess what? Yes gallery and photo itself either lags alot even though its even less photos in the mobile than before or does not even start or says gallery is not respoding. Restarted device - did not help. deleted gallery data(cache) from applications section also did not help. I hope to find an answer without doing a factory reset.
for now it doesnt even start - says loading for ever
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Did you do a safe disconnect of device?
Also, why does doing factory reset bother you? All you need to do is backup apps/appdata via Titanium Backup Pro, and SMS via SMS Backup, factory reset and restore backups and contacts will sync via google account. Its no big deal your not going to lose anything.
Also, why on earth call this a "major bug" when its completely obvious that it isnt otherwise it would be very common and well known about already. Plus you dont even bother to mention what ROM you're using, did you even check the roms thread? Or if stock did you contact Samsung?
I don't like factory resets either, I actually avoid them.
gastonw said:
I don't like factory resets either, I actually avoid them.
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Why?
TheATHEiST said:
Why?
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Because I'm able to, and I don't have to. Everything always works fine. It's crazy.
gastonw said:
Because I'm able to, and I don't have to. Everything always works fine. It's crazy.
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Well if everything works fine, Its not that your "avoiding it" its simply that you "dont need" to use it. So your original comment makes no sense.
Only time you need to wipe data is when moving to a new rom base/type, If you face issues or if you just want to do a clean install.
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Well if everything works fine, Its not that your "avoiding it" its simply that you "dont need" to use it. So your original comment makes no sense.
Only time you need to wipe data is when moving to a new rom base/type, If you face issues or if you just want to do a clean install.
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Avoiding it by not messing up with it. I could choose to go and play with things that will require a factory reset. I think I made that pretty clear, you just have to read it, think about it and read it again.
I'm good with semantics & semiotics, didn't I tell you that?
BTW, I flash with MO, it does the wipping itself.
Be good now.
gastonw said:
Avoiding it by not messing up with it. I could choose to go and play with things that will require a factory reset. I think I made that pretty clear, you just have to read it, think about it and read it again.
I'm good with semantics & semiotics, didn't I tell you that?
BTW, I flash with MO, it does the wipping itself.
Be good now.
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And at what point did you make it "pretty clear" ?
Also what has Mobile Odin got to do with the price of fish? The wipe in question is in general if you have issues with a particular rom resulting in attempting to clear it by clearing non-default data/settings, Not about when wiping before/after first rom flash which is mostly for custom roms via CWM when its strongly advised unless moving up version of same rom. Since it ounds like you only use stock rom then you will very rarely come across teh need to use wipe.
Either way its not that your "avoiding" it, its simply that you have no "need" to use wipe in your circumstances because its not necessary.
Wiping data/factory reset is no big deal either way as the most important stuff can very easily be backed up and restored so if you have issues with system and cant resolve it then just backup everything and do wipe (and/or clean install of rom) and restore it back, simple.
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And at what point did you make it "pretty clear" ?
Also what has Mobile Odin got to do with the price of fish? The wipe in question is in general if you have issues with a particular rom resulting in attempting to clear it by clearing non-default data/settings, Not about when wiping before/after first rom flash which is mostly for custom roms via CWM when its strongly advised unless moving up version of same rom. Since it ounds like you only use stock rom then you will very rarely come across teh need to use wipe.
Either way its not that your "avoiding" it, its simply that you have no "need" to use wipe in your circumstances because its not necessary.
Wiping data/factory reset is no big deal either way as the most important stuff can very easily be backed up and restored so if you have issues with system and cant resolve it then just backup everything and do wipe (and/or clean install of rom) and restore it back, simple.
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Second quote TheATHEiST
Obviously you are talking to somebody who is very inexperienced with Android.
You can always download gallery apps from the play store. This would be along your lines of something you can do to fix it.
Also this is not a major bug!! Very very very minor at best!
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And at what point did you make it "pretty clear" ?
Also what has Mobile Odin got to do with the price of fish? The wipe in question is in general if you have issues with a particular rom resulting in attempting to clear it by clearing non-default data/settings, Not about when wiping before/after first rom flash which is mostly for custom roms via CWM when its strongly advised unless moving up version of same rom. Since it ounds like you only use stock rom then you will very rarely come across teh need to use wipe.
Either way its not that your "avoiding" it, its simply that you have no "need" to use wipe in your circumstances because its not necessary.
Wiping data/factory reset is no big deal either way as the most important stuff can very easily be backed up and restored so if you have issues with system and cant resolve it then just backup everything and do wipe (and/or clean install of rom) and restore it back, simple.
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Exactly. See? now you got it.
I just do not flash custom ROMs.
Wasn't so hard, was it? It' simple; you said it yourself.
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Dude, your talking utter crap. At no point did you "make it clear" (as you claimed) you was only flashing stock roms.
I'm ending this conversation now because you're starting to get annoying.
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So elocuent.
And don't worry, I always knew you couldn't see my point. Everyone else did.
Behave