Is it possible to port SailfishOs?
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Why would we even bother about porting some exotic systems when our native one does not work properly? Doing it as a proof od concept would be ok if we would have as big community as with other popular phones. Honor 7 is far from it. Our (i think about ones of us that know how) smart guys should work on making what we have properly rather than experimenting with thing like Sailfish, Ubuntu etc. Doing thing like that for what? Like 10 people around the world?
supervixen said:
Why would we even bother about porting some exotic systems when our native one does not work properly? Doing it as a proof od concept would be ok if we would have as big community as with other popular phones. Honor 7 is far from it. Our (i think about ones of us that know how) smart guys should work on making what we have properly rather than experimenting with thing like Sailfish, Ubuntu etc. Doing thing like that for what? Like 10 people around the world?
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Yeah, but it's the same with CM13 or other custom roms, so some might get bored about port the same over and over. Let's try something new....
Thing is it's not the same. CM13 or Lineage - it's still same platform, same Android. Making one of them 100% usable would be amazing. Making every one of them half working while trying to make others (like mentioned Sailfish for example) at least bootable (and most likely nothing more) is not really good way to revive the phone. If you're bored with your phone you can always try another launcher.
Or you can just flash another rom there's some for now: emui based, lineageos/cm based and miui ! I tried the last one, miui for plk al10 but it was working surprisingly fine.
Either you can buy another device, qualcomm based is better for support.
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supervixen said:
Why would we even bother about porting some exotic systems when our native one does not work properly? Doing it as a proof od concept would be ok if we would have as big community as with other popular phones. Honor 7 is far from it. Our (i think about ones of us that know how) smart guys should work on making what we have properly rather than experimenting with thing like Sailfish, Ubuntu etc. Doing thing like that for what? Like 10 people around the world?
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I agree. LineageOS 14.1 would be an achievement.
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Hey Guys!!!
Ever heard of BOOT TO GECKO?!
Mozilla created Firefox, Seamonkey, Thunderbird, and now a smartphone operating system, known as Boot To Gecko, or Mozilla OS...
I am planning on working to port this amazing operating system to our smartphone, it will probably be a BIG project; which is another topic.
Is any developers here in our LG Optimus One area of XDA willing to work with me to get Boot To Gecko on our P500s? It would be amazing, even if it is on a linux/android based port (or themed ROM maybe... port itself is better)
So yeah
Also, I have not a lot of spare time during day between 9am-6pm because of work, so around nighttime I am free, so is on weekends...
I would love to see this on our phones, even sideloaded (multiboot) capability would be amazing, then we could have endless possibilities! I would have DoozzzedUIv4 and Mozilla B2G, and it would be amazing.
I would say good luck, but I'm the one to be working on it
CJ
8-year bump just for add information that may be relevant to anyone reading this post:
on B2G GitHub, there's a pull request for adding support for the P500 in the build process, so it should be compatible if someone compiles it.
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MLX said:
8-year bump just for add information that may be relevant to anyone reading this post:
on B2G GitHub, there's a pull request for adding support for the P500 in the build process, so it should be compatible if someone compiles it.
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Man someone did all that work only for it to never see the light of day, its been so long that not only the phone died but the os too. Hard to believe that my 150 dollar phone is more than 16 times more powerful than this.
Fandroid Tech said:
Man someone did all that work only for it to never see the light of day, its been so long that not only the phone died but the os too. Hard to believe that my 150 dollar phone is more than 16 times more powerful than this.
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Yeah, funny enough I have a LG P350 (not a p500), I would have tried to build it nowadays (just for the sake of trying) lol
MLX said:
Yeah, funny enough I have a LG P350 (not a p500), I would have tried to build it nowadays (just for the sake of trying) lol
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I used to have an LG P500, the battery bloated a few years ago so I got rid of it thinking I wont miss it. Oh well that was a mistake. There is cyanogen os for the LG P350 so it would be easy to port firefox os overlay to the phone, it should run great as all the applications are minimalist. I am currantly trying to port Lineage 18.1 for my Samsung A11 but I am having issues with the camera, phone calls, etc. Android porting used to be so much more simpler back then, or I am just too unfamiliar with the new environment. The phone is armv6 so the maximum android version it can run without being extremely slow is android 4.4. I could get the lastest twrp version working but it would be useless on it. Postmarketos should run nicely on it.
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I used to have an LG P500, the battery bloated a few years ago so I got rid of it thinking I wont miss it. Oh well that was a mistake. There is cyanogen os for the LG P350 so it would be easy to port firefox os overlay to the phone, it should run great as all the applications are minimalist. I am currantly trying to port Lineage 18.1 for my Samsung A11 but I am having issues with the camera, phone calls, etc. Android porting used to be so much more simpler back then, or I am just too unfamiliar with the new environment. The phone is armv6 so the maximum android version it can run without being extremely slow is android 4.4. I could get the lastest twrp version working but it would be useless on it. Postmarketos should run nicely on it.
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actually b2g can't be even built because of the repositories being down, while archives exist you need to patch the source to use the correct paths and that's something most people won't do to run an outdated os
btw I also got twrp3 on some armv6 devices, a nice but useless things indeed
possible MIUI rom ported to MediaPad?
I see MIUI rom on Nexus 7 it's so cool... :crying:
miui nexus 7 ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1841208
I've never been a fan of miui roms, they look so much like iphone ui, and all those colored icons and layouts make the device look like a tablet for kids.
if it's even possible to port a rom to the mediapad i prefer something from samsung 7" tablets, the look of touchwiz is really special.
I don't think anyone is working on a MIUI rom. I personally wouldn't want to turn my tablet into a giant phone, since to my knowledge they haven't implemented a tablet UI yet. It seems like there aren't many developers working on ROMs for our device as it is, I say let them work on trying to get HDMI on Jelly Bean instead.
HTC sense from flyer would be great if someone port it
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I've never been a fan of miui roms, they look so much like iphone ui, and all those colored icons and layouts make the device look like a tablet for kids.
if it's even possible to port a rom to the mediapad i prefer something from samsung 7" tablets, the look of touchwiz is really special.
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There's a very large library of themes to change the colored icons and menus. Even still, I don't think the default looks at all like the iPhone.
I have MIUI on my phone and absolutely love it. Menus, toggles, drop down/pop-ups are so much cleaner. Would be awesome to have on my tablet too.
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There's a very large library of themes to change the colored icons and menus. Even still, I don't think the default looks at all like the iPhone.
I have MIUI on my phone and absolutely love it. Menus, toggles, drop down/pop-ups are so much cleaner. Would be awesome to have on my tablet too.
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Yeah... me to, would love to se on my mediapad to.
Remember when cyanogenmod team brought life back to all our old phones? i was one of the lucky ones to get my HTC WILDFIRE supported by CM. at the same time MIUI pulled the middle finger and said F**K YOU!! we only develop for the the powerul devices.
what's the point of an after-market ROM when it dosn't support devices with few features.
after all, we are still stuck with two CM and AOKP ROMs that are not qualified enough to be used daily! how can we now start on MIUI?
it's useless
i'm sorry but that's the truth :crying: and i'm sad as F**K seeing all other devices on xda having tens of working ROMs.
we need more developers. i'm not one, but i help testing and do all my best to get something working.
huawei published all ics sources long time ago. It doesn't seems that's not helping, we already have an unlocked bootloader by default... pointless complaint imho, we only need interested developers
hamdimo said:
Remember when cyanogenmod team brought life back to all our old phones? i was one of the lucky ones to get my HTC WILDFIRE supported by CM. at the same time MIUI pulled the middle finger and said F**K YOU!! we only develop for the the powerul devices.
what's the point of an after-market ROM when it dosn't support devices with few features.
after all, we are still stuck with two CM and AOKP ROMs that wrae not qualified enough to be used daily! how can we now start on MIUI?
it's useless as long as Huawei isn't helping
i'm sorry bit that's the truth :crying: and i'm sad as F**K seeing all other devices on xda having tens of working ROMs.
we need more developers. i'm not one but i help testing and do all my best to get somzthing working.
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From my understanding, the T-Mo springboard is a redone Huawei Mediapad. The Springboard here has a very very small userbase, however the mediapad in China (from what I understand) has a much larger base. Given that MIUI is developed in China... I would think that the tablet might get some attention.
guap said:
huawei published all ics sources long time ago. It doesn't seems that's not helping, we already have an unlocked bootloader by default... pointless complaint imho, we only need interested developers
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I'll keep complainign till i see a WORKING CUSTOM ROM
I'm trying to make custom miui rom.
but....
lockscreen is not working,
icon-size is very little
i have hot reboots, when i trying to use sdcard/usb
Can any developer try making iOS custom ROM for RN3 !!
iOS?! Wrong section btw.
Use miui....its like ios
Wrong section.
miui is implementing ios themed in almost everything, plus, why you don't try theme store, it has a lot of ios themed theme right there.
Use miui use theme iOS or buy iphone
Oh great idea. I'm sure a dev is going to get right on that. And I'm sure it will run iOS apps instead of Android apps with no problem too. Sure, no problem. I can't believe no one's thought of this before.
/sarcasm
Please make Krexus 7.1 rom
Why r u so fool
Lol
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Ok, since everybody is making joke of you, let me clarify why it's impossible.
Why do iPhone's cost so much? Because they have a great OS (iOS). The apple developers spent a lot of time working on this system and that's why they won't share their work (sources). And that's why porting iOS becomes much much harder (same for Windows Mobile).
So if you want iOS you MUST buy an iPhone.
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What about Carbon Rom..??
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Why do iPhone's cost so much? Because they have a great OS (iOS).
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Great OS? LOL. It's **** compared to pretty much any build of Android.
I'll tell you the real reason why iPhones cost so much: Brand recognition. That's pretty much it. Same reason why Calvin Klein jeans cost more than no-name jeans.
That, and maybe the fact that some people - especially low-end users - prefer iOS because it's simpler and has less options and settings to mess with.
Also, why it's (pretty much) impossible? Different architecture. Seem reason you can't install OS X on a Windows PC. (Yes, I know there are emulators and open source projects that can somewhat do this, but you get my point.)
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Great OS? LOL. It's **** compared to pretty much any build of Android.
I'll tell you the real reason why iPhones cost so much: Brand recognition. That's pretty much it. Same reason why Calvin Klein jeans cost more than no-name jeans.
That, and maybe the fact that some people - especially low-end users - prefer iOS because it's simpler and has less options and settings to mess with.
Also, why it's (pretty much) impossible? Different architecture. Seem reason you can't install OS X on a Windows PC. (Yes, I know there are emulators and open source projects that can somewhat do this, but you get my point.)
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I totally agree with you.
They were the first to introduce an innovative OS and now their fans will buy anything that has an apple logo on it.
Sadly, same thing happened with Samsung. Prices are comparable to iPhone's and people still buy them
By saying "great" I mean very good optimisation and most importantly, it's made for simple users.
I've seen so many people with android, who don't even know 70% of the possibilities of android.
Different architecture may also be a reason.
If any iOS port existed, I would definitely try it, just to see why people say it's "the best", but still, it's way too simple for me.
Simple reason why ios cant be ported to any android devices is ios is a closed source.they keep their os intact unlike google.so there is no possibility that it could be ported ,only one thing can be done that is theming any rom just like ios.
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I'm really interested in getting this phone, I have skipped the Note 8 until I see what this phone brings, and from what I saw at the presentation I looks like an AWESOME phone, but when I look at past Huawei flagships (mate 9, P9, etc) almost non-existing major updates, custom roms support and mods I start thinking if paying a premium price for a phone like this its really worth for a person like me who likes to play around with rooting, modding and installing custom roms in my devices or should I play safe and get a Samsung or Pixel device.
No. Do not buy Huawei if modding is important.
Non existent with previous mate 9 and barely with mate 8.
Across the board, it's not getting easier
intruda119 said:
No. Do not buy Huawei if modding is important.
Non existent with previous mate 9 and barely with mate 8.
Across the board, it's not getting easier
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I appreciate your answer, there are great devices but not for us.
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I'm really interested in getting this phone, I have skipped the Note 8 until I see what this phone brings, and from what I saw at the presentation I looks like an AWESOME phone, but when I look at past Huawei flagships (mate 9, P9, etc) almost non-existing major updates, custom roms support and mods I start thinking if paying a premium price for a phone like this its really worth for a person like me who likes to play around with rooting, modding and installing custom roms in my devices or should I play safe and get a Samsung or Pixel device.
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To be honest you are better off not getting any flagship if you like modding. The pixel is a pain to dev for to the point that many devs are not getting the new pixel or even supporting it. Samsung well we all know that dev support for that is a joke.
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To be honest you are better off not getting any flagship if you like modding. The pixel is a pain to dev for to the point that many devs are not getting the new pixel or even supporting it. Samsung well we all know that dev support for that is a joke.
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Thanks for your answer, so that being the case, which phone(s) would you recommend me?
yael20 said:
Thanks for your answer, so that being the case, which phone(s) would you recommend me?
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If modding is your thing then I would look at something like one plus. Things to avoid are devices with dual partition setup. The pixel showed how much devs dont want to deal with that.
Things to look out for are things like kernel source being up to date which I hate to say knocks 90% of the China based OEM out of it. Maybe the Euro version of samsung devices might be OK but even they get little to no real devs support. I would look around the site. See what devices have real support. No I am not talking about tons of los based roms. That is not development. I mean real development with system mods and hardware tweaks.
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If modding is your thing then I would look at something like one plus.
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Unfortunately OnePlus sucks at many things that are important for many of us so I guess we don't have a choice.
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Unfortunately OnePlus sucks at many things that are important for many of us so I guess we don't have a choice.
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Things like what? The one bonus is that with one plus it can be fixed for the most part as to where even the kernel code on huawei devices is useless.
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Things like what? The one bonus is that with one plus it can be fixed for the most part as to where even the kernel code on huawei devices is useless.
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Can we start with the MicroSD ?
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Can we start with the MicroSD ?
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This I agree with but many of the OEM are opting out of sdcards ever since google removed all the code fore native sdcard support from android years ago. But to be hones 64gb is more then enough for a mobile device. Mix that with some common sense (backing up stuff. No I dont mean cloud backup lol)
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Unfortunately OnePlus sucks at many things that are important for many of us so I guess we don't have a choice.
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I think the one plus is a good device with great specs, but I don't like it's design... May be due it's Iphoneish look lol
zelendel said:
To be honest you are better off not getting any flagship if you like modding. The pixel is a pain to dev for to the point that many devs are not getting the new pixel or even supporting it. Samsung well we all know that dev support for that is a joke.
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Why not? You can get systemless root (Exynos) or TWRP installed classic root (Snapdragon) for Note8.
Sure Knox and/or SafetyNet gets tripped, but that's the price to pay for rooting.
But you can root current flagship phones and there's plenty of modding community for Note8.
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Why not? You can get systemless root (Exynos) or TWRP installed classic root (Snapdragon) for Note8.
Sure Knox and/or SafetyNet gets tripped, but that's the price to pay for rooting.
But you can root current flagship phones and there's plenty of modding community for Note8.
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Samsung based roms are not development. Samsung devices have sucked for development for years. This is why main stream developers don't get that device.
Ok, thanks for the info. I haven't followed the scene. Just installed a good LO fork on my Note3 and it is working wonders (sans NFC and GPS/camera performance is generic).
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To be honest you are better off not getting any flagship if you like modding. The pixel is a pain to dev for to the point that many devs are not getting the new pixel or even supporting it. Samsung well we all know that dev support for that is a joke.
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That being said , what are 3 phones that you can say "this is a good phone, and I can do all lot of things with it("? is the nexus 6p one of them? thanks for your help.
yael20 said:
That being said , what are 3 phones that you can say "this is a good phone, and I can do all lot of things with it("? is the nexus 6p one of them? thanks for your help.
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Yes. The 6p (minus the battery issues) is good for rom development. It will get support from 3rd parties for at least another 2 years.
I would say the one plus 3 or 3t
The nexus 6p
Any one of the Sony devices as they have a good development setup.
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I'm really interested in getting this phone, I have skipped the Note 8 until I see what this phone brings, and from what I saw at the presentation I looks like an AWESOME phone, but when I look at past Huawei flagships (mate 9, P9, etc) almost non-existing major updates, custom roms support and mods I start thinking if paying a premium price for a phone like this its really worth for a person like me who likes to play around with rooting, modding and installing custom roms in my devices or should I play safe and get a Samsung or Pixel device.
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@auras76 (confirmed via private message that he will be supporting Mate 10 and continue his awesome rom that he has for Mate 9 ->[ROM] RomAur-v2.2-[16/10]-[UB][7.0_Fw.b197]-FAST-STABLE :good:
yael20 said:
I think the one plus is a good device with great specs, but I don't like it's design... May be due it's Iphoneish look lol
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Problem with OP (I switched from OP5 to IP7+ just recently because I kept hearing rumors that OP5T/OP6 might come out and I was afraid the value might drop to a point where re-sale value is no longer profitable..IP7+ is awesome in many ways, but my initial goal was getting LG V30 but now it seems Mate 10 is much wiser choice because of its awesome screen to body ratio + 16:9 aspect ratio which currently IMO is way better than 18:9/18:9.5 considering full app support, including youtube and so on) is that it does not have its own identity - its basically an iphone clone design wise and with it you look like a wannabe iphone user . Its awesome in performance but that identity thing sucks + they recent actions where they discontinue a model even before 6 month span is just plain ridiculous (OP3 to OP3T and then OP3T to OP5 all done within 1 year)..
zelendel said:
Yes. The 6p (minus the battery issues) is good for rom development. It will get support from 3rd parties for at least another 2 years.
I would say the one plus 3 or 3t
The nexus 6p
Any one of the Sony devices as they have a good development setup.
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Sony is bad in development because their stupid DRM system.
El Solido said:
Sony is bad in development because their stupid DRM system.
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Tell that to the fact that they offer how to build aosp for their devices, have worked with developers on it as well as pretty much made the theme engine that susbstratum works off of.
Will there be loses. Sure but that is the difference between aosp and using code made for the device. You don't always get all the features of the device with aosp. But that is not the point of using aosp. It's to learn.
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Tell that to the fact that they offer how to build aosp for their devices, have worked with developers on it as well as pretty much made the theme engine that susbstratum works off of.
Will there be loses. Sure but that is the difference between aosp and using code made for the device. You don't always get all the features of the device with aosp. But that is not the point of using aosp. It's to learn.
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Yes, but with sony aosp you get 13% quality of camera comparing it to stock, so they are stupid.
Does this mean development may be much better, despite it being a Kirin based SoC? I would imagine so.
Ascertion said:
Does this mean development may be much better, despite it being a Kirin based SoC? I would imagine so.
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No. That chip is still a nightmare to work with. Most developers have given up on honor. Only a few remain that are holding out hope.
The main issue is that qualcomm has spent decades working with 3rd party developers. Providing documentation, class and all kinds of tools to help them. Other chip makers are not willing to put that much money into it really.
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No. That chip is still a nightmare to work with. Most developers have given up on honor. Only a few remain that are holding out hope.
The main issue is that qualcomm has spent decades working with 3rd party developers. Providing documentation, class and all kinds of tools to help them. Other chip makers are not willing to put that much money into it really.
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Welp, so much for Honor's XDA partnership. Guess I'll stick with Qualcomm in the future.
Thanks for the informative reply!
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Does this mean development may be much better, despite it being a Kirin based SoC? I would imagine so.
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Yes, honor V10 (like honor 9, mate 10, mate 10 pro, P10) are allready booting allmost fully fonctionnal AOSP treble rom, take a look on treble section in xda.
ayziaa said:
Yes, honor V10 (like honor 9, mate 10, mate 10 pro, P10) are allready booting allmost fully fonctionnal AOSP treble rom, take a look on treble section in xda.
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To be honest, they have only gotten as far as devs have before when getting aosp to boot on a device that doesnt have it. Treble support has not been as important as it was lead to seem.
Treble has allow to boot one Rom on several devices using different soc. Plus it can use stock kernel so only system partition is flashed. It's as close as a revolution can happen in the Rom development world. Did you check the treble forum?
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Treble has allow to boot one Rom on several devices using different soc. Plus it can use stock kernel so only system partition is flashed. It's as close as a revolution can happen in the Rom development world. Did you check the treble forum?
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Oh I am well aware of what is going on over there. Now let me let you in on something. A stock based kernel would always boot on many devices. The thing is that most of the stuff doesnt work without changes. Which is still the case. If it is such a revolution then why are there not soo many developers involved?
We will just have to wait to see. Just how important it turns out to be. I like many dont think it will do a whole lot of anything really. As the updates are still pushed by the OEM anyway and you lose all the features from the OEM on AOSP. So almost no point to it really. It wont make updates any faster or for a longer time frame. IT will be like Net neutrality. Not a whole lot will change.